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— To someone like self-styled “feminist” Amanda Marcotte, John Edwards, being on the right side of the political divide, can’t be wrong. His intentions are admirable, his heart in the right place (though his penis, not so much at times).

Sarah Palin, conversely, being on the wrong side, can’t be right. Her deeds are meaningless. She is not of the elect.

Amanda, it turns out, is a Calvinist.

(for Aldo)

122 Replies to “a passing thought”

  1. ccoffer says:

    Predestination can be a bitch…..

  2. ccoffer says:

    from the outside looking in, I mean.

  3. dre says:

    Here’s a gay marriage: Amanda and Andy boy.

  4. T&T says:

    We Calvinists are also totally depraved.

    T&T

  5. Patrick says:

    Speaking for the fahrenheitists, I’m all for Sarah…

  6. She has a stuffed tiger?

  7. dre says:

    So for the progs “Change” means Chitown loot division. For the moose mama it means shooting these sobs?

  8. Aldo says:

    Cool.

    Hillary Clinton, a WASP who gave up her career ambitions when she married, and then later took the helm of the political juggernaut her husband built: feminist icon

    Sarah Palin: A middle-class girl from a Catholic family who scrapped and fought her own way to the top of a political hill way out in the wild Western political hinterlands, known for battling corruption even in her own party, and who vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to the partners of gay state employees: traitor to her gender

  9. Republican on Acid says:

    It is also well known that all natural disasters are caused by conservatives.

  10. dre says:

    Global warming has an AlGore wake up call.

  11. guinsPen says:

    Calvin and Knobs.

  12. dre says:

    Oh good Herrroldo is on site. The ‘stache could stop Gustav.

  13. dre says:

    Herrroldo is showing that it is raining. Hurricane rain I don’t see a connection.

  14. ccoffer says:

    I’ve never been able to figure out what meaning the acronym WASP has. I know what the letters stand for, but I never got what relevance it had.

    I suppose its as close to “nigger” or “spic” or “kike” or “wop” or whatever as a non-ethno can be. The slur implies that white is “less than”. I have no idea why.

    For the record, I believe in the equality between all forms of humanity. Be they Jew, White, Negroid or whatever, I believe in equality between the races. I’m one of the good guys.

  15. Aldo says:

    ccoffer,

    It is an anachronism. At one time the upper-class elite in America were all white anglo-saxon protestants. Non-whites (blacks, asians, latinos), Catholics, Jews, etc. were never allowed into the upper crust of society. That was starting to change by the time Hillary came of age, but she did grow up in that world with those kinds of class priveledges. Sarah Palin did not.

  16. ef says:

    I’m one of the good guys.

    Unless you believe in equality through a carefully tailored program of governement mandates and political messages agreed to by a self selected cadre of social caretakers, you are not one of the good guys, racist.

  17. dre says:

    “but she did grow up in that world with those kinds of class priveledges. ”

    Progg privileges? O!’s got ’em too. Sarah freakin beauty queen.

  18. dre says:

    My question: Does Sarah have a carry permit?

  19. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    My question: Does Sarah have a carry permit?

    No carry permit needed in Alaska.

  20. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    I loved a calvinist once. But she already knew it was gonna happen. It was still good for me, though.

  21. Bob Reed says:

    Same old, timeless but tired, left wing meme…

    If you’re down with their outlook, agenda, and talking points; then you’re a “good” person-regardless of how you actually conduct your life!!!

    But, if you are their ideological or simply rhetorical opponent, will not abide their necessary lies, and/or will not buy into their arguments; you are a horrible, despicable, hate filled individual who only wishes to enslave, actually or ideologically, or otherwise disempower innocent “working” people everywhere-EVEN IF YOU”RE FRIGGIN MOTHER THERESA OR THE POPE!!!

    All brought to you by the crowd that invented the modern era, much decried and hand wrung over, politics of personal destruction…

    As first used on then Apointee Robert Bork, during the Reagan administration…

    But, then again, I’m a member of VRWC and an evil RAAAAAAAAAACIST!!!

  22. Bob Reed says:

    “Comment by Aldo on 8/30 @ 7:50 pm #

    Cool.

    Hillary Clinton, a WASP who gave up her career ambitions when she married, and then later took the helm of the political juggernaut her husband built: feminist icon

    Sarah Palin: A middle-class girl from a Catholic family who scrapped and fought her own way to the top of a political hill way out in the wild Western political hinterlands, known for battling corruption even in her own party, and who vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to the partners of gay state employees: traitor to her gender”

    Yep Aldo, that about says it. A basic primer on the “nuances” of the Democrat’s identity politics…

  23. Mr. Pink says:

    I think we seriously need a new definition of nuance.

  24. Aldo says:

    If we really want to open up this discussion of race and coded language here goes:

    I think a lot of the rap against Sarah Palin (small town, beauty pageant queen, third-rate college, big hair) boils down to liberals from Hillary’s social class equating Palin with Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones: They are sneering at her because she is White trash.

  25. Sam Hall says:

    I think we need to decontaminate the word “liberal”. Those who flaunt that title today are the very ones who have least claim to that proud appelation.

  26. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I think we need to decontaminate the word “liberal”.

    “Libertarian” has baggage, too.

    Maybe we should bring back “Whig”.

  27. Sam Hall says:

    Libertarians need their own protestant revolution. As long as the NORML faction conrols their narrative, they will always be a marginal party.

    Not that the majority of people are against casual pot smoking. They just don’t take bakeheads seriously.

  28. psycho... says:

    As long as the NORML Reason/Cato faction conrols their narrative, they will always be a marginal party useful idiots.

    FTF this century.

  29. TmjUtah says:

    Maybe we should bring back “Whig”.

    Well, I for one had to put “Republican” back on the street in 2006. Been looking for something to replace it with.

    Such troubling times we live in.

  30. Jeff G. says:

    Go with classical liberal, people. It drives the left crazy and makes Bill Maher feel like a schmuck.

  31. Topsecretk9 says:

    “Sarah Palin, conversely, being on the wrong side, can’t be right. Her deeds are meaningless. She is not of the elect.”

    that and Sarah had the temerity to accomplish shit on all on her own and also her “equality partner” was like OK with with bearing a good portion of the child rearing

    although I bet he doesn’t see it as a burden.

    Did anyone see the Biden tipsy vid where he introduces his wife and then says rather I am her husband – hiccup!

  32. Topsecretk9 says:

    I bet Todd doesn’t care that the laundry basket doesn’t fit perfectly on his hip.

  33. Sam Hall says:

    That takes too much explaining, Jeff. True Liberalism needs a new icon and slogan.

  34. B Moe says:

    I bet Todd doesn’t care that the laundry basket doesn’t fit perfectly on his hip.

    Real men don’t use laundry baskets, we head to the laundry room with great armloads of clothes, the socks and boxers we drop are like bread crumbs in case we get lost in such unfamiliar territory.

  35. mojo says:

    Limited atonement? Really, aren’t we into “head-of-a-pin” territory here?

  36. You’re all liberal capitalists, ya goobers.

  37. NukemHill says:

    Maybe we should bring back “Whig”.

    I could be a Whig. Or is it that I could wear one?

    Lemme get back to you on that….

  38. Sam Hall says:

    You’re all liberal capitalists, ya goobers.

    Damn, I thought I was a Methodist.

    Wait, do they allow anal?

    Damn. Liberal capitalist it is.

  39. T&T says:

    #30, Jeff,

    Just added “Classical Liberal” to Political Views on my Facebook profile page. Also noticed that your profile page woefully lacks mention of such. What kind of example is that??

    T&T

  40. T&T says:

    P.S.
    You also omitted “Calvinist” from your religious views.

    >;-)

    T&T

  41. Bob Reed says:

    “Amanda, it turns out, is a Calvinist”

    If she were a Buddhist, would it mean that the next permutation would be Nirvana???

    I mean, since being a liberal Democrat has got to be THE highest form of Karmaic development attainable in this plane of existence…

    Unless you’re a scientologist; then the Muvva ship is comin’ fo’ yo’ ass or some S*%T like that!

  42. David Warner says:

    “I think we need to decontaminate the word “liberal”. Those who flaunt that title today are the very ones who have least claim to that proud appelation.”

    They’re rapidly abandoning it for “progressive” the better to attack the heinous neo-liberals who only hate conservatives 23 hours per day. I say we grab it while its available. As brands go, it has a pedigree like no other.

  43. Patrick says:

    “But she already knew it was gonna happen”

    Boooo!

  44. Patrick says:

    But seriously, current lefty ideology, as has been noted before, if not often, has a lot in common with certain other politico-religious movements in our history. The Puritans leap to mind.

  45. Sean M. says:

    I could be a Whig. Or is it that I could wear one?

    Sounds uncomfortable.

  46. Topsecretk9 says:

    Comment by B Moe on 8/30 @ 10:45 pm #

    You do know what I was referring to though, right? Amanda fears that laundry baskets are ergonomically designed only for a woman’s hip, thereby reinforcing the patriarchy and coded message that she not leave the laundry room ever and succumb to the slavedom she was told to love, not like.

    Real men aren’t afraid or offended to hoist a laundry basket designed to accommodate a woman’s comfort on his hip, shoulder or head if it doesn’t snug up perfect to his massive man hip….is what I was saying.

  47. Sean M. says:

    All my laundry baskets are rectangular-like, so that’s never really been an issue as far as I’m concerned.

    Also, I’m not a crazy person who reads subtle messages about people trying to oppress me into common household items, so I’ve got that going for me, too.

  48. Jonas says:

    Sam Hall came out of nowhere and has become one of my favorite new commenters!

  49. Jonas says:

    Behind Ric and Happyheet, obviously…

  50. Jonas says:

    *feet, feet…this is why don’t I don’t comment often

  51. BJTexs says:

    Holding my nose and wandering through the fetid swamp that is Pandag*on I was amused by the consistent expression of feminist orthodoxy. You see, Palin is an “anti-feminist” who is designed to appeal to “misogynistic women” who fall into two categories: those who really believe that they are “inferior” and those who are much worse, the “colluders,” someone who “disavows feminism for men’s rights.” Thus her accomplishments in the real world, a paean to feminist resolve and goals, is dismissed due to heretical views of policy dogma. BURN HER, SHE IS A WITCH!

    Not to mention the fact that the “quality” of the howling over the last few days says a lot about the “wing of diversity,” especially when you consider some of the similar “commentary” of folks like Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Colin Powell and Michael Steele by the open arms all people champions of the hard left.

    And they wonder why terms like “fascism” end up bundled in swaddling clothes and lying on their front porch, wailing.

    I realize that there is a certain comfort and empowerment by narrowly defining a narrowly defined subject into a screechy echo chamber but drunk and stupid are no way to go through life.

  52. McGehee says:

    Palin appeals to women “who really believe that they are ‘inferior'”…???

    She beat the snot out of two of her state’s most prominent political men to become governor, and since then has taken on corruption in her state with considerable success.

    “Inferior?” They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

  53. ccoffer says:

    To truly be a “feminist”, one really ought to be fat and ugly. This demonstrates refusal to conform to the demands of the patriarchal powers that be. Palin is the feminist version of an uncle tom.

  54. Carin says:

    I think Palin’s two biggest crimes are that she had five (5!) children and that she joined the PTA. If they find one of those hip-laundry baskets in her house … heads will explode.

  55. B Moe says:

    You do know what I was referring to though, right?

    Yeah, that was one of my favorite all-time threads. I was goofing on my own laundry tendencies, the basket is always full, and I am picking up a load of clothes spilled out around it to do a load at the last minute because I just realized I don’t have anything clean.

    I am a bachelor if you haven’t guessed.

  56. B Moe says:

    Palin appeals to women “who really believe that they are ‘inferior’”…???

    Women who really believe they are inferior, you mean like women who think they all need special laws and different treatment, just for them?

  57. ccoffer says:

    By the way: Jeff is entirely correct about the the term Classical Liberal. Its the best description out there. The problem with identifying as a libertarian is that you are automatically associated with the booger-eating, anarchist ragamuffins who make up the Libertarian Party. Conservative doesn’t really work either. I don’t see much out there I’m looking to conserve. Restore, maybe.

  58. Pablo says:

    This is delightful, and front paged over at dkos. PALIN-tology – 45+ Problems for McCain’s VP in just 35 hours

    My favorite is this one: 13. She’s deeply connected to the Bridge to Nowhere.

    Um, yeah. She killed it. There’s plenty more fun to be had in there.

  59. syn says:

    Oprahfried whiny Feminists cannot stand women like Gov Palin because she is everything they are not; she has confidence built through her own accomplishments, she is a champion of decency, she has respect for Womenhood and the power of our womb, she honors males and understand how important they our to our society, she is pioneer, a warrior, a nurturer and a devoted, faithful lover.

    She is the American woman that feminism will never be; she is no Oprahfried victim of everything wallowing in self-indulgent pity.

  60. Rusty says:

    Well, Moe, I’m married ,but still have to do my own work clothes. We have these new high tech frontloaders that do a really good job and have all sorts of settings except for the one for -guys really stinky dirty rags with extra skid mark control. Prolly wouldn’t fit on the button is why they left that one out,huh?

  61. ThomasD says:

    Conservative doesn’t really work either. I don’t see much out there I’m looking to conserve. Restore, maybe.

    I am so stealing that line. Thanks in advance.

  62. If you’re down with their outlook, agenda, and talking points; then you’re a “good” person-regardless of how you actually conduct your life!

    Politics is all, but personal morality is so private they refuse to impose it on anyone, including themselves.

  63. Aldo says:

    Thus her accomplishments in the real world, a paean to feminist resolve and goals, is dismissed due to heretical views of policy dogma. BURN HER, SHE IS A WITCH!

    There has to be some significance to the fact that Obama’s winged monkeys on the internet are hurling the exact same insults at Sarah Palin that Democrats hurled at Paula Jones and the other working-class women who made sexual harassment claims about Bill Clinton in the 1990’s.

    The take-away message seems to be that real feminists do not challenge male Democrats. Real feminists go to Wellesley, not third-rate colleges. Real feminists come from cosmopolitan big cities, not Wasilla. Real feminists do have big hair. Real feminists do not win beauty pageants.

  64. Aldo says:

    I guess Sarah Palin isn’t going to get the Obama treatment from the media.

    But we knew that.

  65. thor says:

    Jeff is, most obviously, wrong. Amanda is wrong no matter what she does within the extreme right-wing conscious. Sarah Palin is wrong no matter what she does within the extreme left-wing conscious.

    The flaw in Jeff’s paralleling proffer is that Amanda is a dumb cunt with a blog. Sarah Palin is a dumb cunt who extremists are trying to foist upon the American people as Presidential material.

    Both women in Jeff’s example should be in my G’damn kitchen baking me a pie. Golden brown, bitches, the crust on top should be golden brown!

  66. B Moe says:

    Oh, look everybody: thor said a dirty word!

  67. thor says:

    Did you feel a tingle run down you leg?

  68. Pablo says:

    If I were a no class scumbag like thor, this is where I’d be calling Barack Obama a stupid fucking nigger. Thankfully, I’ve got a bit more basic human respect for the man. thor, not so much.

    Hey, hammer boy! How about that wager? Or do you not believe your own bullshit?

  69. Aldo says:

    Thor,

    What is your basis for concluding that Palin is a “dumb cunt”?

    Unlike you, she seems to be quite capable of making a coherent case for her positions.

    Maybe you could get Nancy Pelosi to bake you that pie.

  70. one MRE too many says:

    Dowd say’s it’s a ‘beehive’. I said it too. the funny
    Sarah’s getting a ‘pass’ from the media me thinks. She’s too pretty.

  71. Aldo says:

    Dowd say’s it’s a ‘beehive’. I said it too. the funny
    Sarah’s getting a ‘pass’ from the media me thinks.

    The media is giving her a pass by not attacking her hairstyle like the winged monkeys at dkos? Just give them a few days to get up to speed.

  72. one MRE too many says:

    ‘she has respect for Womenhood and the power of our womb, she honors males and understand how important they our to our society, she is pioneer, a warrior, a nurturer and a devoted, faithful lover” (unlike the McCains)

    I see everyone on the right is hoping McCain has an early death.

    god, I see the Valkyrie from Alaska riding down from the sky with armored breast plates capable of impaling whimpering liberals. That long hair finally unfurled originally meant to entice her hunky frequently absent hubby away from the ice floes will now Medusa-like stun the Mainland into Submission.

    I want to see the Beehive Open Up.

    why is that the rightwing bloggosphere is pasting every picture of her beauty pageant pictures everywhere. Rush’s Le Babe!

  73. Pablo says:

    I see everyone on the right is hoping McCain has an early death.

    Ah, so you’re hallucinating! Thanks for pointing that out.

  74. one MRE too many says:

    ‘classical liberal’ sounds good like a Greek column at the DNC convention.

    Sarah’s a good thing also, me thinks. Glad that Obama’s taking the high road unlike McCain’s minions did with Obama’s wife. I think McCain will live a long and prosperous life. Sarah’s just ‘filler’, but great entertainment.

    I am hoping this hurricane is even a bigger dud as gas and oil companies are just looking for another excuse to jack us all.

    Enjoy a day without labor. Holiday tomorrow! (is opening the RNC convention on the offical Labor Day holiday a dismissal of American Labor or something??)

  75. Pablo says:

    Sarah’s a good thing also, me thinks. Glad that Obama’s taking the high road unlike McCain’s minions did with Obama’s wife.

    1. Don’t forget Hillary’s minions.

    2. McCain hasn’t said a word about Mrs. Obama. High road then, right?

    3. Directly quoting someone is the low road?

  76. Aldo says:

    why is that the rightwing bloggosphere is pasting every picture of her beauty pageant pictures everywhere.

    um, because she’s a hotty?

    vpilf is right.

    Being a hotty is not mutually exclusive with being smart. anti-feminist nuance.

  77. thor says:

    Comment by Pablo on 8/31 @ 9:39 am #

    If I were a no class scumbag like thor, this is where I’d be calling Barack Obama a stupid fucking nigger.

    I don’t know why you’d compare yourself to me, but you’ve acted the part of idiot-scum in the past. Why’d you assume you’d know more about securities rules and regs than I even after I told you I spent 12-years in that business doing everything from trading munis to being one of the operational principals of a brokerage firm? Did you really think your superior view of politics would parlay itself into mental kryptonite? Yes, you did, didn’t ya. As if Barack Obama is a empty-headed hopey-doper even though he, like Anthony Scalia, taught law at University of Chicago. You’re an over-inflated blimp of an idiot. Might as well call Barack Obama a “stupid nigger,” that’s what you’re implying is it not? Might as well call me a stupid nigger too; your implication was the same toward me, was it not?

    Yeah, dooooood, I’ll wager you a $50 gift card to Cracker Barrel. That’s what I posted in response to your request. Read.

    Comment by Aldo on 8/31 @ 9:47 am #

    Thor,

    What is your basis for concluding that Palin is a “dumb cunt”?

    Because airheaded backwater hick chicks usually are. I like my assumption’s odds!

  78. The Lost Dog says:

    thor –

    Quit projecting.

    What you felt running down your leg was probably the makings of a child.

  79. The Lost Dog says:

    “Might as well call me a stupid nigger too”

    ummmmmmmmmmm…

  80. lee says:

    I think every time thor makes a denigrating comment about Palin, I’m going to send her another dollar.

  81. The Lost Dog says:

    “I loved a calvinist once. But she already knew it was gonna happen. It was still good for me, though.”

    So was my one and only Mormon.

  82. TomB says:

    What you felt running down your leg was probably the makings of a child.

    Let’s be accurate here. How about “species-appropriate progeny”?

  83. Pablo says:

    I don’t know why you’d compare yourself to me, but you’ve acted the part of idiot-scum in the past.

    Link, finance boy?

    Yeah, dooooood, I’ll wager you a $50 gift card to Cracker Barrel. That’s what I posted in response to your request. Read.

    Don’t waste my time. Put your money where your blowhole is. Your response indicated that you feared I’d not honor my end of the bet. I offered a perfect solution to ensure that wouldn’t happen. Your concern has been eliminated. Put up, rich boy.

  84. one MRE too many says:

    jessum, I saw that picture how many times??? I’ll give Ms. Palin more credit than calling her “Hawt”. She’s a tough debater me thinks if she refrains from her attack dog menace sports reporter demeanor as in the past and her dumb giggles over lessor endowed females getting shafted. She also ‘flip flopped’ on the Bridge to Nowhere. Supported it until the bad Press arrived.

    Like how many years have we’ve been subjected to Hillary-bashing? I didn’t love her, but always thought her super intelligent and the “better half”, and nice looking btw, although I am growing to appreciate Bill’s assets to the economy of this nation. We’ve had 8 years of Republican economic hell…

    Since ms. Palin is admittedly picked for her hotness, I don’t apologize for commenting on her Beehive. Kind of reminds me of Utah, my beehive state. Except even there no woman would be caught dead wearing such a “do”. And hunting wolves from aeroplanes isn’t a manly sporting thing imo.

  85. Log Cabin says:

    Why are Thor and the drooling, idiot left (but I repeat myself)threatened by sucessful women?

  86. lee says:

    although I am growing to appreciate Bill’s assets to the economy of this nation. We’ve had 8 years of Republican economic hell…

    How quickly they forget.

    GW inherited a recession from Clinton, then had to deal with the economic fall-out of 9/11. Then pursued a war against the Forces of terror. And still avoided another recession, and kept unemployment close to what Clinton achieved, low inflation, and (despite a few burps) a strong dollar.

    In the 20 or so months since the Dems took over congress, gas prices have doubled.

    But yeah, despite that, Republican economic hell, got it.

  87. Slartibartfasts says:

    In the 20 or so months since the Dems took over congress, gas prices have doubled.

    These aren’t cause and effect, lee.

  88. cranky-d says:

    @79: you will go broke.

  89. Aldo says:

    I am growing to appreciate Bill’s assets to the economy of this nation. We’ve had 8 years of Republican economic hell…

    Clinton had nothing to do with the economic boom times that occurred during his term in office. The President does not run the economy like the Wizard of OZ, standing behind a curtain pulling levers and twisting dials.

    Since ms. Palin is admittedly picked for her hotness, I don’t apologize for commenting on her Beehive.

    That’s an incorrect assertion. Ms. Palin was not picked for her hotness, and neither she nor Mccain has “admitted” otherwise. Some of us watching from the sidelines who had nothing to do with picking her are admiring her hotness. that is not the same thing.

  90. lee says:

    you will go broke.

    Possibly. I’ll send the campaign $200, that ought to get me through the rest of the month.

    I’ll still be ahead of the game if it helps keep Obama out of office. I’m a blue collar working man, making an hourly wage, but I’m sure Obama considers me rich enough to hang me upside down a shake my pockets empty.

  91. Topsecretk9 says:

    The take-away message seems to be that real feminists do not challenge male Democrats. Real feminists go to Wellesley, not third-rate colleges. Real feminists come from cosmopolitan big cities, not Wasilla. Real feminists do have big hair. Real feminists do not win beauty pageants.

    ever get the feeling that amanda is no no more feminist in her real life at least nothing like she presents, it’s she’s finally getting attention on a scale she’s never enjoyed before for writing fuck a million times ?

  92. Civilis says:

    It’s not as if the lefties (such as our favorite griefer phony-libertatian) haven’t been swooning over Obama for his looks, just as they were swooning over Edwards back in 2004…

    I find the assertions that Palin is only on the ticket as a token to trick moderate women to be hilariously funny. I mean, picture the Republican VP search two weeks ago:

    McCain Adviser #1: “I’ve got a great possibility! A popular, young, photogenic, western governor with a blue-collar rural background, a definite Washington outsider with strong reform credentials, who has a son soon to be deployed to Iraq, with definite appeal among the social conservative, fiscal conservative and libertarian bases of the party!”
    McCain Adviser #2: “So, tell us, who is this mystery man?”
    McCain Adviser #1: [Grinning] “Man?”

    The fact that the Vice Presidential candidate is chosen to complement the Presidential candidate by appealing to different parts of the public is nothing new. As such, there is nothing wrong with picking a candidate that is the most appealing. But specifying that Palin was chosen only (or primarily) because she is a woman is silly on its face.

  93. ushie says:

    One MRE too many: that’s not a beehive. Think B-52s.

    thor: I’d like to thank you for your worthless useless dumbass opinion from the bottom of my hick heart. My hick, Ph. D. in English lit, heart. You dipshit.

    Oh, and when you go around calling women “cunts,” are you including M’chelle in that? Somehow, even though you won’t say it aloud, I think you think it.

  94. TomB says:

    Since ms. Palin is admittedly picked for her hotness,

    Link to that “admission” please?

  95. one MRE too many says:

    “In the 20 or so months since the Dems took over congress, gas prices have doubled.”

    oh yeah, Democrats aren’t the ones jacking the prices up and the Republican veto would stop any Democrat from doing anything about oil profiteering by Republicans ala Phil Gramm-isch types of Bush/Mccain policies. We have the most proOil Company Presidency ever and you’re blaming Democrats. Credulity is strained. True, ms. Palin’s beehive isn’t an overpermed, oil product constrained sort of beehive…but it looks like one. I await her new ‘do’. And the B-52s? Yupp, like them even better.

    for a corrective to so-called “classical liberal” thought one needs to read this:

    I call the first fact the Great Partisan Growth Divide. Simply put, the United States economy has grown faster, on average, under Democratic presidents than under Republicans.

    The stark contrast between the whiz-bang Clinton years and the dreary Bush years is familiar because it is so recent. But while it is extreme, it is not atypical. Data for the whole period from 1948 to 2007, during which Republicans occupied the White House for 34 years and Democrats for 26, show average annual growth of real gross national product of 1.64 percent per capita under Republican presidents versus 2.78 percent under Democrats.

    It’s the executive that rules the economy as the Congress is too diverse and logjammed to do much about it.

  96. B Moe says:

    Since ms. Palin is admittedly picked for her hotness, I don’t apologize for commenting on her Beehive.

    I think she is hot as hell in this interview, I didn’t really notice her hair, though.
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/26462569?__source=RSS*blog*&par=RSS

    If Obama sounded half that on top of things I might consider voting for him.

  97. Slartibartfasts says:

    I personally would enjoy Palin’s nomination a bit more if we’d all stop referring to her as “hot”. If hotness were even a little bit of a qualification, all of our political electees would be college-age women.

    Full stop.

  98. B Moe says:

    The stark contrast between the whiz-bang Clinton years and the dreary Bush years is familiar because it is so recent. But while it is extreme, it is not atypical. Data for the whole period from 1948 to 2007, during which Republicans occupied the White House for 34 years and Democrats for 26, show average annual growth of real gross national product of 1.64 percent per capita under Republican presidents versus 2.78 percent under Democrats.

    Eight of which were the dotcom boom, four were the true worst economy since the depression, and the remaining 14 were wartime economies. Which strategy do you think the Obama team is planning on?

  99. B Moe says:

    I am find intelligent, self confident women hot, slart. Can’t help myself.

  100. Jeff G. says:

    I just hope some of this filth gains broad berth, despite the fact that the press is responsible for much of it.

    Elitist gatekeepers. Wow. Never knew it went this far, though.

    My finger is really fucked this morning. Might not get to post. Maybe a vid podcast or something, maybe one or two short posts.

  101. B Moe says:

    From MREs link:
    Such a large historical gap in economic performance between the two parties is rather surprising, because presidents have limited leverage over the nation’s economy. Most economists will tell you that Federal Reserve policy and oil prices, to name just two influences, are far more powerful than fiscal policy. Furthermore, as those mutual fund prospectuses constantly warn us, past results are no guarantee of future performance. But statistical regularities, like facts, are stubborn things. You bet against them at your peril.

    Unless you can establish no causation and they seem to be merely coincidental, as seems apparent if you read the whole piece.

  102. B Moe says:

    Take care of your finger, Jeff.

  103. Slartibartfasts says:

    I am find intelligent, self confident women hot, slart. Can’t help myself.

    Remember the women on the airplane drooling over Barack’s ass? Like that, only with a possibly more reasonable-sounding rationalization. I’m not demanding that you stop, just asking you to stop and think.

    Regarding Democrat vs Republican economic growth, I think for the most part folks make that kind of declaration because it agrees with their preexisting opinions. I’d find them a bit more credible if a cause-and-effect relationship were established. After all, the Democrats are in charge of Congress, and just look at gas prices.

  104. Slartibartfasts says:

    Unless you can establish no causation and they seem to be merely coincidental, as seems apparent if you read the whole piece.

    Oh, I can: nearly every stretch of time with Democrats at the helm is preceded by a stretch of time with Republicans at the helm.

    After, therefore because of.

  105. Slartibartfasts says:

    NB: I don’t believe that, either. Showing an effect is nice and all, but it’s not the same as understanding the underlying cause.

  106. one MRE too many says:

    i read the entire interview with those capital letters, tough. She sounds greedy and antiProgressive. Alaska is already a welfare state living off oil revenues as she said and she wants the USA to be even more dependent on oil??

    And her hair really sucked. (She does elsewhere make fun of her hair and glasses btw showing she’s a sport! I’ve already said it’s probably McCain’s best choice…but not America’s best choice.) Okay, I await the Medusa unfurling her curls.

    wartime’s economies? Clinton had the longest peacetime recovery in modern US history and he raised taxes and invested in infrastructure (and police and fire depts.) to do it. The resulting infrastructure improvements (schools e.g.) resulted in prosperity. In contrast, Bush cut taxes and defunded the infrastructure and now China’s newer portions of theirs is looking better than ours. Of course, Texas is doing fine since Bush/Cheney came from there and are helping the Texas oil companies jack the rest of the USA into recession. Sarah wants Alaska to do the same. )

  107. TomB says:

    i read the entire interview with those capital letters, tough. She sounds greedy and antiProgressive.

    How the fuck old are you skippy?

  108. Topsecretk9 says:

    Remember the women objective journalist on the airplane drooling over Barack’s ass?

    Fixed that.

  109. one MRE too many says:

    slart, admittedly the writer is a Democrat. Causation? I blame the ideological underpinnings of conservative economic policy that underlays the 30 year stretch of rapid income inequality, a policy which is dominate in both parties. The Mark Penn/Grover Nordquists of the world.

    later, volkum. I think it’s a close call this election and hope for the best from either winner.

  110. Slartibartfasts says:

    And her hair really sucked.

    You’re a deep one, you are.

    I blame the ideological underpinnings of conservative economic policy that underlays the 30 year stretch of rapid income inequality, a policy which is dominate in both parties.

    So, you’re saying it doesn’t matter who is in charge? This tends to contradict your thesis, you know. But your guess is less good than mine. Your evidenced argument, though, might be interesting. Show it to us.

    The Mark Penn/Grover Nordquists of the world.

    Mark Penn is a Democrat, so it all balances? Norquist.

  111. Aldo says:

    IIRC when hillary first entered the public eye she wore her hair long, but about the time she took over the reins of the Clinton Machine from Bill she re-styled it shorter. Because she’s, you know, a real feminist.

  112. lee says:

    In the 20 or so months since the Dems took over congress, gas prices have doubled.

    These aren’t cause and effect, lee.

    You say so.

    If, however, gas prices had gone down, as promised by the 2006 dem candidates, I suspect every news outlet would tell you they are.

  113. B Moe says:

    wartime’s economies? Clinton had the longest peacetime recovery in modern US history and he raised taxes and invested in infrastructure (and police and fire depts.) to do it.

    That was the eight year dotcom boom, Einstein. Truman and Kennedy/Johnson were both wartime economies, how old are you indeed.

    Oh, and could you define “greed”, for me? I find it helps if we are both talking about the same things.

  114. B Moe says:

    Alaska is already a welfare state living off oil revenues

    Do you realize that is the same as saying Iowa is a welfare state living off corn revenues? In other words, its kind of a stupid thing to say.

  115. poppa india says:

    Greed=she might not want to give your money to other people.

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  117. Slartibartfasts says:

    I suspect every news outlet would tell you they are.

    As I’ve said before: equal and opposite stupidity doesn’t cancel, it adds.

  118. lee says:

    Hey Slart, maybe I’m stupid, but I kind of like Rush’s thing of illustrating absurdity by being absurd.

  119. Fletch says:

    B Moe-

    I am a bachelor if you haven’t guessed.

    But, not an acommplished bachelor…

    WTF is a “laundry basket”? I merely strip when entering from the garage, and dump the offending garments in the washing machine strategically placed just inside the door.

    I’ll bet you also eat off “plates”… :o)

  120. Fletch says:

    MRE-

    god, I see the Valkyrie from Alaska riding down from the sky with armored breast plates capable of impaling whimpering liberals.

    That’s not a ‘bug’, it’s a feature!

  121. Rob Crawford says:

    It’s the executive that rules the economy…

    Actually, no.

    And that little phrase is what convinces me folks like you should never be given any power.

  122. JHoward says:

    The economy is ruled?

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