For example, the US went to war in Iraq, captured Bagdad and drug Saddam out of his hole in less time than it took for Hillary to find her Whitewater files.
And yet Democrats can launch simultaneous assaults on Bush/Cheney campaign headquarters in multiple states, and no one bats an eye.
The left side of the blogosphere can coordinate in secret on their “Townhouse” mailing list while bitching about the “right wing noise machine”, and when it’s revealed, the world yawns.
Democrat-leaning organizations can be hip-deep in blatant vote fraud all over the nation, and no one digs any deeper than the explanation of “over zealous employees”.
Democrats can send people out with wads of cash on election day to “get out the vote”, and no one blinks.
Democrats can block any attempt to ensure the identity of voters, no matter how simple or how light the burden, and no one digs any further than their insistence that they’re worried about “the poor and minorities”.
But there’s a “vast right wing conspiracy” that’s so large and effective it managed to sway the results of the 2006 elections…
Obviously Hildo has been testing the waters to see which of her insane ideas or claims will stick. Funny thing, every time she opens her mouth more shit streams out. Best bet for Repubs is to have her keep talking. Eventually she will talk herself out ouf contention….Oh wait, that’s right, CBS, NBC, and ABC will keep her popular no matter what happens……..
MSNBC—Clinton was first lady when she famously charged allegations of an affair between her then-president husband Bill Clinton and White House intern Monica Lewinsky were the result of a conservative conspiracy.
Yeah . . . let’s bring all that up again . . . and again . . . and again . . . because the VRWC was wrong?
Clinton made her charge of conspiracy in response to a question about her proposed bill that would …………make it a crime to send misleading or fraudulent information to voters.
Brave move. I wonder if she’s thought it through all the way.
OT, how do they manage always to photograph the poor girl looking as though she is offering a particular favour to Bill?
An armadillo, a jew, a former hippy hippy who leads lizzards, and a message board reichwingers post to called freerepublic…real fucking vast. Oh…can’t forget the venerable conservative Andrew Sullivan. Maybe she was describing Andy’s anus.
“It just so happens that many of those places where people are waiting for hours are places where people of color are voting or young people are voting. That is un-American, and we’re going to end it,” Clinton said.
Blacks and young people voting? Un-American! Hillary says so!
If you read the article you’d know that Clinton was talking about James Tobin being convicted in the RNC election day phonejammimg scam that helped John Sununu get elected in 2002.
She also made reference to some other Republican dirty tricks which I believe includes the illegal robo calling scam last fall where thousands of Dems and indies were called in close House races and harrassed repeatedly, sometimes up to 17 times an evening by calls made to sound like they were from the Dem candidate.
Let’s not forget what the whole Gonzales thing is about either. One study says his Justice Dept has
opened investigations on 298 Dem vs. 67 Repub and 11 independents since 2001. I’d call politization of the Justice Dept. pretty serious illegal VRWC
You may want to rethink that liberuuul media BS fellas.
From Media Matters:
* Despite previous network claims that a conservative advantage existed on the Sunday shows simply because Republicans controlled Congress and the White House, only one show, ABC’s This Week, has been roughly balanced between both sides overall since the congressional majority switched hands in the 2006 midterm elections.
* Since the 2006 midterm elections, NBC’s Meet the Press and CBS’ Face the Nation have provided less balance between Republican and Democratic officials than Fox Broadcasting Co.’s Fox News Sunday despite the fact that Fox News Sunday remains the most unbalanced broadcast overall both before and after the election.
* During the 109th Congress (2005 and 2006), Republicans and conservatives held the advantage on every show, in every category measured. All four shows interviewed more Republicans and conservatives than Democrats and progressives overall, interviewed more Republican elected and administration officials than Democratic officials, hosted more conservative journalists than progressive journalists, held more panels that tilted right than tilted left, and gave more solo interviews to Republicans and conservatives.
opened investigations on 298 Dem vs. 67 Repub and 11 independents since 2001. I’d call politization of the Justice Dept. pretty serious illegal VRWC
myself.
Certainly a fair-minded, basso profundo commenter such as yourself wouldn’t be opposed to posting a link to your source, yes?
a new study shows that such federal investigations may have been politicized throughout the Bush administration.
A study of reported federal investigations of elected officials and candidates shows that the Bush administration’s Justice Department pursues Democrats far more than Republicans. 79 percent of elected officials and candidates who’ve faced a federal investigation (a total of 379) between 2001 and 2006 were Democrats, the study found – only 18 percent were Republicans. During that period, Democrats made up 50 percent of elected officeholders and office seekers during the time period, and 41 percent were Republicans during that period, according to the study.
“The chance of such a heavy Democratic-Republican imbalance occurring at random is 1 in 10,000,” according to the study’s authors.
The vast disparity came not from the more high-profile investigations of state-wide or federal officeholders (the disparity there was 55-44 Democratic), but from the far more numerous investigations of local officials. The study found that 85 percent of the 309 local officials and candidates who faced investigation were Democrats.
The study, based on press reports of federal investigations, was conducted by two retired professors, Dr. Donald C. Shields, Professor Emeritus from the Department of Communication, University of Missouri-St. Louis, and Dr. John F. Cragan, Professor Emeritus from the Department of Communication, Illinois State University, who have been collecting the data over the past several years. An earlier version of the study was presented to the National Communication Association in 2005. The latest summary of their data (through the end of 2006) was provided to us by Dr. Shields.
If you read the article you’d know that Clinton was talking about James Tobin being convicted in the RNC election day phonejammimg scam that helped John Sununu get elected in 2002.
What did she have to say about the multiple shootings into GOP campaign headquarters, or the 2004 tire-slashing case?
One study says his Justice Dept has opened investigations on 298 Dem vs. 67 Repub and 11 independents since 2001.
And it couldn’t possibly be that Democrats are just doing it more than Republicans. Couldn’t possibly be.
In other words, mark, you cannot possibly believe the party of the Mob is the more corrupt party? And that you have no intention of considering the possibility?
Because random chance cannot explain something, it must be because of bias?
I should have expected this line of “argument” when I heard the phrase “political profiling”.
How come nobody was bitching about how unbalanced it was when the Kulture of Korruption was getting investigated and all those reThugs pals of Abramoff were getting sent away?
And this:
Since the 2006 midterm elections, NBC’s Meet the Press and CBS’ Face the Nation have provided less balance between Republican and Democratic officials than Fox Broadcasting Co.’s Fox News Sunday despite the fact that Fox News Sunday remains the most unbalanced broadcast overall both before and after the election.
How come no one’s mentioned the most important thing about the news story? That in the photo Hillary is dressed in some kind of Mao outfit. What’s the deal with that?
Oh for Christ sake. Have you LOOKED at that study. Have you seen where they got their data? Have you looked at the ONLY time period they examined and noticed there is no way they can come to some of their conclusions? What do you think of including some of the New Jersey investigations in this “study”, an investigation that predates the Bush presidency? Think that might skew things a bit? Was this peer reviewed? Nope. The numbers are so far off and the data is selectively included to make this worthless.
So you fell for a bogus “study”, no need to brag to us that you are a sucker for fraudulent work.
As for Hilary, she’s already forgotten about the Democratic party intimidation efforts against the GOP in Minnesota that resulted in convictions in 2004.
If you read the article you’d know that Clinton was talking about James Tobin being convicted in the RNC election day phonejammimg scam that helped John Sununu get elected in 2002.
She also made reference to some other Republican dirty tricks which I believe includes the illegal robo calling scam last fall where thousands of Dems and indies were called in close House races and harrassed repeatedly, sometimes up to 17 times an evening by calls made to sound like they were from the Dem candidate.
Prank phone calls?
How vast a conspiracy does it take to pull this off:
Oct. 27: A man is charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after veering his silver Cadillac toward Rep. Katherine Harris, R-Fla., and supporters in Sarasota, Fla. “I intimidated them with my car,” the man told police, according to The Associated Press. “I was exercising my political expression.” Harris is the former Florida secretary of state who sparked the ire of Democrats after presiding over the state’s presidential recount in 2000.
Oct. 22: Someone breaks into Republican campaign headquarters in Flagstaff, Ariz., after throwing a cinderblock through a window, Bush campaign officials say.
Oct. 22: A break-in is discovered at Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters in Cincinnati, Bush campaign officials say. The Cincinnati Enquirer reports $300 is taken.
Oct. 11: Someone breaks into and ransacks a Republican Party campaign office in downtown Spokane, Wash., takes petty cash and tampers with a computer, party officials say.
Oct. 10: Someone smashes a window at a Bush-Cheney campaign office in Canton, Ohio, Republicans say. Missing from the office are a purse, a laptop carrying case and a portable radio.
Oct. 6: Four windows are broken after hours at the Fairbanks, Alaska, Interior Republican campaign headquarters used by Sen. Lisa Murkowski and the Bush campaign, following a broken window the prior weekend, the AP reports.
Oct. 5: Protesters storm and vandalize a Bush-Cheney office in Orlando, Fla., leaving a campaign worker with a broken arm from the resulting struggle, Fletcher says.
Oct. 5: Someone apparently fires shots through glass doors at a Knoxville, Tenn., office used by Republican Party volunteers to distribute campaign buttons, lawn signs and other election paraphernalia.
Oct. 2: Three computers containing Republican campaign plans are taken overnight after someone throws a rock through a window at Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters in Bellevue, Wash., police say.
Sept. 2: A gunshot shatters a window at GOP headquarters in Huntington, W.Va., as workers are gathered to watch Bush’s speech during the Republican National Convention, police say.
You guys are welcome to go to mediamatters and/or the Shield’s study and read it yourselves. Frankly Buzz your critique is so vague I have no idea which one you’re slagging. My guess is none of the rest of you do either. But that doesn’t stop you from you piling on with childish insults. Talk about a mob. If you’re too lazy to read, what makes you think your criticism should be taken seriously? You guys you can do better than that.
While you’re at it google the American Center for Voting Rights, the only “Voting Rights” group
allowed to testify in front of Bob Ney’s Committee about allegations of voting irregularities in OH at his March 2005 hearings. Google David DiStefano, Ney’s former chief of staff and his relationship to not only Abramoff, but Diebold too, while you’re at it.
Then come back and tell me that the media in this country doesn’t cover up Republican malfeasance. Tell me Bob Ney didn’t get convicted for the least of his crimes. Hell go look up the charges about Menendez in NJ last fall and how quickly they were dropped after the election and try and tell me US attorneys haven’t been politicized.
All of this crap stinks to high heaven. If you don’t know it, you should. And I’m gonna help you find out.
Actual links would be nice. You know, us right-wingers get sidetracked easily on Google and end up surfing for AR-15’s and Jesus Loves Me key chains.
But, I admit it. Your proof is irrefutable. Personally, you should try to bring up charges since those facts would easily stick in court. Or does Fox news control the judicial system too?
We need to raise our hands and sing praises because the good Reverend markg8 is comin’ down from the mountain to bring us the truthiness!
PRAISE PROGRESS! You sir, do you have something to say?
Yes’em! I’se jest wants tah say thet I knows thet I ain’t gots no LIGHTENMENT! I’se hopin’ thet the rev will brang me some o’ thet there urban smartness, so’s I kin fineoolee stops from imbarrassamenting me an my kin at them there cocktail parties.
Alternate post title: “Speaking of gaping wormholes…”
HYPERMASCULINIST!
Hillary Clinton can observe Schroedinger’s cat as both alive AND dead at the same time.
Wait…. that might be Kerry.
So, how do I join the conspiracy? Do I need a secret decoder ring? What does it pay?
Can I get the Senator to bring me back some Kenny Rogers Chicken?
I am so missing that wood fired goodness and those spices…
Time is relative.
For example, the US went to war in Iraq, captured Bagdad and drug Saddam out of his hole in less time than it took for Hillary to find her Whitewater files.
However, she’s still constrained by the forces of gravity.
I propose a bill that would require all campaign reporters to give the candidates’ dimensions. You know like they do in sports:
Clinton, 5’2”, 168 lbs. , tumbled down the steps after collapsing in a heap of liberalism. She is probable for her speech tomorrow.
And yet Democrats can launch simultaneous assaults on Bush/Cheney campaign headquarters in multiple states, and no one bats an eye.
The left side of the blogosphere can coordinate in secret on their “Townhouse” mailing list while bitching about the “right wing noise machine”, and when it’s revealed, the world yawns.
Democrat-leaning organizations can be hip-deep in blatant vote fraud all over the nation, and no one digs any deeper than the explanation of “over zealous employees”.
Democrats can send people out with wads of cash on election day to “get out the vote”, and no one blinks.
Democrats can block any attempt to ensure the identity of voters, no matter how simple or how light the burden, and no one digs any further than their insistence that they’re worried about “the poor and minorities”.
But there’s a “vast right wing conspiracy” that’s so large and effective it managed to sway the results of the 2006 elections…
Oh, wait.
Obviously Hildo has been testing the waters to see which of her insane ideas or claims will stick. Funny thing, every time she opens her mouth more shit streams out. Best bet for Repubs is to have her keep talking. Eventually she will talk herself out ouf contention….Oh wait, that’s right, CBS, NBC, and ABC will keep her popular no matter what happens……..
Yeah . . . let’s bring all that up again . . . and again . . . and again . . . because the VRWC was wrong?
Brave move. I wonder if she’s thought it through all the way.
OT, how do they manage always to photograph the poor girl looking as though she is offering a particular favour to Bill?
An armadillo, a jew, a former hippy hippy who leads lizzards, and a message board reichwingers post to called freerepublic…real fucking vast. Oh…can’t forget the venerable conservative Andrew Sullivan. Maybe she was describing Andy’s anus.
“Maybe she was describing Andy’s anus.”
No, she didn’t use the term Glory Hole……
Blacks and young people voting? Un-American! Hillary says so!
If you read the article you’d know that Clinton was talking about James Tobin being convicted in the RNC election day phonejammimg scam that helped John Sununu get elected in 2002.
She also made reference to some other Republican dirty tricks which I believe includes the illegal robo calling scam last fall where thousands of Dems and indies were called in close House races and harrassed repeatedly, sometimes up to 17 times an evening by calls made to sound like they were from the Dem candidate.
Let’s not forget what the whole Gonzales thing is about either. One study says his Justice Dept has
opened investigations on 298 Dem vs. 67 Repub and 11 independents since 2001. I’d call politization of the Justice Dept. pretty serious illegal VRWC
myself.
You may want to rethink that liberuuul media BS fellas.
From Media Matters:
* Despite previous network claims that a conservative advantage existed on the Sunday shows simply because Republicans controlled Congress and the White House, only one show, ABC’s This Week, has been roughly balanced between both sides overall since the congressional majority switched hands in the 2006 midterm elections.
* Since the 2006 midterm elections, NBC’s Meet the Press and CBS’ Face the Nation have provided less balance between Republican and Democratic officials than Fox Broadcasting Co.’s Fox News Sunday despite the fact that Fox News Sunday remains the most unbalanced broadcast overall both before and after the election.
* During the 109th Congress (2005 and 2006), Republicans and conservatives held the advantage on every show, in every category measured. All four shows interviewed more Republicans and conservatives than Democrats and progressives overall, interviewed more Republican elected and administration officials than Democratic officials, hosted more conservative journalists than progressive journalists, held more panels that tilted right than tilted left, and gave more solo interviews to Republicans and conservatives.
Certainly a fair-minded, basso profundo commenter such as yourself wouldn’t be opposed to posting a link to your source, yes?
Also from Media Matters
*During the 1996 Christmas Holidays, President Clinton repeatedly sodomized a Dyson Vacuum Cleaner with a feather duster.
*60 Minutes Journalist Dan Rather personally forged the documents that ended his career
*80% of all NBC news shows could be overdubbed with the Haitian version of ‘Fresh Prince of Bel Aire’ and have no discernible difference in quality.
Wow! All it takes is a mention of Media Matters and a bunch of asterisks and suddenly The Truth Sets You free
kelly:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002420.php
a new study shows that such federal investigations may have been politicized throughout the Bush administration.
A study of reported federal investigations of elected officials and candidates shows that the Bush administration’s Justice Department pursues Democrats far more than Republicans. 79 percent of elected officials and candidates who’ve faced a federal investigation (a total of 379) between 2001 and 2006 were Democrats, the study found – only 18 percent were Republicans. During that period, Democrats made up 50 percent of elected officeholders and office seekers during the time period, and 41 percent were Republicans during that period, according to the study.
“The chance of such a heavy Democratic-Republican imbalance occurring at random is 1 in 10,000,” according to the study’s authors.
The vast disparity came not from the more high-profile investigations of state-wide or federal officeholders (the disparity there was 55-44 Democratic), but from the far more numerous investigations of local officials. The study found that 85 percent of the 309 local officials and candidates who faced investigation were Democrats.
The study, based on press reports of federal investigations, was conducted by two retired professors, Dr. Donald C. Shields, Professor Emeritus from the Department of Communication, University of Missouri-St. Louis, and Dr. John F. Cragan, Professor Emeritus from the Department of Communication, Illinois State University, who have been collecting the data over the past several years. An earlier version of the study was presented to the National Communication Association in 2005. The latest summary of their data (through the end of 2006) was provided to us by Dr. Shields.
What did she have to say about the multiple shootings into GOP campaign headquarters, or the 2004 tire-slashing case?
And it couldn’t possibly be that Democrats are just doing it more than Republicans. Couldn’t possibly be.
And there couldn’t possibly be any other alternative to nefarious political selectivity in prosecutions. Couldn’t possibly be.
Thanks for the link, markg8.
Maybe the Dems are just more crooked.
Not good for your party.
(Ugh. My attempt at alpeeism is creeping me out.)
She’s been in the Senate over six years and hasn’t introduced a bill to make voting fraud or interference with the right to vote a felony.
OK, the evil right wingers controlled both houses of Congress, so she didn’t bother.
Now she’s really concerned. But not concerned enough to do something about it, now that the Dems control chambers.
Send me back in time. I’ll buy Microsoft this time.
Megheehee the answer is no.
Hey maybe you should ask Bob Ney! Oh I forgot he’s in prison.
I repeat:
Where’s your self-referential response to that?
Who?
Oh. I see. A guy who was convicted of accepting bribes or some such.
What the hell does that have to do with the attacks on campaign offices in 2004?
McGehee why don’t you wait for the totally bogus FOX
examinaton of the study so you can trumpet it as proof, proof I say! that Aberto Gonzales, George Bush and Karl Rove are as pure as the driven snow.
In other words, mark, you cannot possibly believe the party of the Mob is the more corrupt party? And that you have no intention of considering the possibility?
Because random chance cannot explain something, it must be because of bias?
I should have expected this line of “argument” when I heard the phrase “political profiling”.
Wow, it’s almost as if you could read my mind. And chose not to.
That’s probably the first time in recorded History that anything regarding New Hampshire has been described as “vast”.
That’s a bit like saying that because one former Democrat President was schtupping the help, they all were.
Oh, wait…
So you’re saying there’s a chance!
Unlike the tooootally UN-bogus TPMMuckraker or Media ”We luvs us some of that mad Soros Cash” Matters that you trumpet as proof?
At least we’ll have links to all the Fox Stuff.
Until then
*Asterisks MAKE THE TRUTH TRUTHIER!!!
How come nobody was bitching about how unbalanced it was when the Kulture of Korruption was getting investigated and all those reThugs pals of Abramoff were getting sent away?
And this:
Is just friggin’ priceless.
How come no one’s mentioned the most important thing about the news story? That in the photo Hillary is dressed in some kind of Mao outfit. What’s the deal with that?
Oh for Christ sake. Have you LOOKED at that study. Have you seen where they got their data? Have you looked at the ONLY time period they examined and noticed there is no way they can come to some of their conclusions? What do you think of including some of the New Jersey investigations in this “study”, an investigation that predates the Bush presidency? Think that might skew things a bit? Was this peer reviewed? Nope. The numbers are so far off and the data is selectively included to make this worthless.
Markg8,
So you fell for a bogus “study”, no need to brag to us that you are a sucker for fraudulent work.
As for Hilary, she’s already forgotten about the Democratic party intimidation efforts against the GOP in Minnesota that resulted in convictions in 2004.
Prank phone calls?
How vast a conspiracy does it take to pull this off:
More fun and games here, here, and here.
I grew up in a union Democrat family, dude, don’t try to pull my dick about how this stuff works.
You guys are welcome to go to mediamatters and/or the Shield’s study and read it yourselves. Frankly Buzz your critique is so vague I have no idea which one you’re slagging. My guess is none of the rest of you do either. But that doesn’t stop you from you piling on with childish insults. Talk about a mob. If you’re too lazy to read, what makes you think your criticism should be taken seriously? You guys you can do better than that.
While you’re at it google the American Center for Voting Rights, the only “Voting Rights” group
allowed to testify in front of Bob Ney’s Committee about allegations of voting irregularities in OH at his March 2005 hearings. Google David DiStefano, Ney’s former chief of staff and his relationship to not only Abramoff, but Diebold too, while you’re at it.
Then come back and tell me that the media in this country doesn’t cover up Republican malfeasance. Tell me Bob Ney didn’t get convicted for the least of his crimes. Hell go look up the charges about Menendez in NJ last fall and how quickly they were dropped after the election and try and tell me US attorneys haven’t been politicized.
All of this crap stinks to high heaven. If you don’t know it, you should. And I’m gonna help you find out.
Actual links would be nice. You know, us right-wingers get sidetracked easily on Google and end up surfing for AR-15’s and Jesus Loves Me key chains.
But, I admit it. Your proof is irrefutable. Personally, you should try to bring up charges since those facts would easily stick in court. Or does Fox news control the judicial system too?
And DO be sure to let the rest of us know, won’t you, dear boy? We need to know where and when so that we can arrange delivery of the popcorn.
BECAUSE OF THE GAY PORN COCK OF LIES AND HYPOCRISY!!!
So to speak…
DW, I’ll wait until it’s on YouTube. That way I can fast-forward through the parts I don’t want to hear.
I mean, that methodology works so well for mark!
BROTHERS AND SISTAHS!
We need to raise our hands and sing praises because the good Reverend markg8 is comin’ down from the mountain to bring us the truthiness!
PRAISE PROGRESS! You sir, do you have something to say?
Yes’em! I’se jest wants tah say thet I knows thet I ain’t gots no LIGHTENMENT! I’se hopin’ thet the rev will brang me some o’ thet there urban smartness, so’s I kin fineoolee stops from imbarrassamenting me an my kin at them there cocktail parties.
Whoooooo, doggie!
Robb Allen go do you own homework. Take you two second to do it I’m gonna be busy for a few days.
BJ it’s fun to see you write in your native dialect. It’d probably be even more fun to hear you recite it.