Last Tuesday the American public decided to lose the war in Iraq and though they may not have realized it, maybe the war in Afghanistan. In doing so, they have delayed the war on terror, not realizing that even if we run away like scared rabbits, the war will continue until they can no longer hide their heads in the sand. Sadly, having voted to withdraw from the enemies homeland, it looks like the fight will be continued on our homeland. Bin laden said something to the effect that Americans can’t take a fight, bloody thier noses a little and they run, he said that back when we ran from Somolia, on election day Americans showed him he was right. What will happen in Iraq after we run like spanked children is unknown, what is known is that the world will see we can not keep our word, we can not be counted on. Iran laughs and will work harder to develop nukes knowing we are pussies, North Korea laughs as it works harder to develop missles to carry thier nukes knowing we are a paper tiger. China laughs knowing that it is the only true super power left and has nothing to worry about. Mohammed smiles as Islam continues to grow in Chad, Dufar and the rest of Africa, and in a Europe too afraid to curtail them. America may be the last stand, but we have decided to sit out the fight because we got bruised a little. Yet the public thinks that the war will end after we leave, that is the biggest mistake and may cost Americans dearly. The war will not end with our withdrawal, it will begin anew as al qaeda regroups and rearms. They will use our withdrawal to recruit more members to fight the defeated satan. When they are ready they will attack us again and this time we may not be able to fight back or if we do, we will have no one to help us as who would help a country that can not be counted on to help them?
I am going to try to visit the larger cities in the U. S. as soon as I can, before the planes once again start slamming into the buildings, before the subways run red with American’s blood, Before the smoldering crater that was once a city is born when the next battle in this war begins. You may laugh at my pessimistic view but seeing the open border policies, and the way that Americans bend over backwards to be PC, the next battle may not be too far off.
Please read the link above, it is an email from my cousin stationed in Afghanistan on the effect of the elections over there.
Crossposted on bakerstreet
Posted by sherlock from bakerstreet
I hope I can gently suggest that you use paragraph breaks. Many people look at a piece organized like that and half-want to move on.
Change direction in Iraq won the mid-terms. Yes, change direction in combat mean retreat leading to defeat . . . .
Saying that voting Democratic meant voting for defeat assumes that what we were doing was winning. I think that when you have one party that stands for defeat now, and another party that stands for defeat in slow motion, it’s a little hard to assess what it was that people were voting for, or against. As one of the people who voted for a Democratic senator, I can only say what my vote meant. It meant that I wasn’t about to vote for a woman who thinks the separation of church and state is a bad thing. Period.
How does Iraq defeat get you to church and state? Question mark?
Ardsgaine – as the democrats ran on a ‘cut and run’ policy and mostly had nothing else to use, you might be one of the few that didn’t realize you were voting to stink your head in the sand, though I doubt that, seeing as you have already declared our defeat. The democrats and media have been screaming that Iraq was on the brink of civil war for years now and still their dreams for it has yet to happen, but they are sure to get it now with us leaving in the middle of the fight. Do you suppose Islamist will care about separation of church and state?
You know, I don’t care if the Dems want to commit suicide in the name of PC, but I sure as hell think that it is more like homicide for those of us with at least half-a-brain.
How did such monstrously stupid people ever get in a position of power? How can you have people who kill anyone they feel like killing, getting right in your face and shouting: “We will kill you all!”, and pretend these murderers are just kidding?
Ardsgaine(or shall we call you Don Quijote?)?
Are you really that dense? You’re worried about church/state seperation(with odds of a million to one that it could ever happen) more than you are worried about raving lunatics who are sworn to your destruction? Ever hear of 9/11? If we take the pressure off, thet will be showing up at your door in the not too distant future.
Fight them now at a smaller cost in their backyard, or fight them later in your own at a cost of innocent American lives that will stagger you. Did you not read the linked e-mail?
OT – Melissa. Please send my thanks to your cousin and all his friends. Thanks for the post. Isn’t it amazing that anyone could read that e-mail and be more concerned about the seperation of church and state. Sometimes I think my head is going to explode..
I think there’s bipartisan support for going back into Afghanistan after NATO bugs out.
Won’t the jihadis be surprised then!
I added a couple more paragraphs from Peter’s email to my post over at Pereiraville. I must have been distracted by my job, because I never finished reading his email before posting excerpts up on my site.
Please keep Peter in your thoughts and prayers.
“Quick, Watson, the needle!†Jesus, Sherlock, lay off the coke for a nanosec and you might get a clue, O Master of Detection. I realize that terminal mopery is pandemic right now among your keyboard band o’ brothers, but you really need to check into the Baker Street Rehab Center for Martyred Conservatives, even if that means a 24-hr IV of Prolixin and four-point restraints for the next year. It will get better, I promise, and you might come back to what is conventionally defined as reality with a minimal capacity for sustained reflection, aka “thinking,†as well as the ability to post something other than bag-lady shrieks on the International Communist, er, Islamofascist Conspiracy, spluttering with passionate sincerity and bad grammar. And remember, we’re all rootin’ fot yah!
As for your heady mix of Boy-Scoutish piety and end-stage paranoia, God knows we’re sorry you feel betrayed by the benighted American people’s decision to “lose the war in Iraq. . . and maybe the war in Afghanistan.†Gosh, Sher, if you’d quit looking at Mess-o-potamia through rose-colored bombsights, you might see what’s actually in front of that Pinocchio beak of yours: the war’s already lost. (Hence CYA-er Tony Blair’s traitorous suggestion that we talk to Iran and Syria! Fuckin’ limeys, never trust ‘em with your back.)
But yes indeed, one of the flaws of the electoral process is that the behavior of these voters can be so bloody unpredictable, so illogical, so. . .democratic, especially when the poor schmucks out there (even some red staters!) are so easily conned by the lib-rul MSM into casting ballots for the America-hating godlesscommiefagfeminazibabykillin’ Dems, although oddly enough many claimed that corruption (mucho grass to sticky-fingered Jack and pole-smoking Mark for that one!) was the key issue this election cycle. Think perhaps a few of them remembered that promise—so long ago!—of “restoring honor to the White Houseâ€Â? Just asking. How quickly the mandate-heavy vox pop of 2000/2004 becomes the ProgSec/Defeatocrat/Appeasement sellout whine of 2006.
Or perhaps what the American people in fact “decided to lose†was their patience with the Bullshit Reason of the Week from the Bush Ministry of Propaganda for said war. Tip for architects of future Battles for the Soul of Civilization: don’t lie. Need a Brief History of Slime per our neocon artists?:
—WMD’s (oops, nuttin’ but 20+-years-old stockpiles degraded to the level of cap guns);
—no wait, it’s the 911/Saddam connection (a pretext disowned by the Administration itself and discredited by our own intelligence community, whose estimates from 16 agencies now tell us our presence has worsened the terrorist threat);
—or on third thought, to bring Demockeracy to the yearning-to-be-free Iraqis who will welcome us as liberators after our “cakewalk†to victory (which is why the majority of them now want us to leave ASAPâ€â€and why many of them don’t mind seeing our guys get blown up);
—er, hang on, so we don’t have to fight them here (oh shit, now an even more likely scenario now that Iraq has been used as a recruiting tool by Al-Q);
—and finally—as close to the truth as we’ll get from the Dubster—so we don’t have to live in a world “in which these extremists and radicals got control of energy resources.. And then you can imagine them saying, ‘We’re going to pull a bunch of oil off the market to run your price of oil up unless you do the following. And the following would be along the lines of, well, ‘Retreat and let us continue to expand our dark vision [while you continue driving your gashog SUVs]’.â€Â
In other words, blood for oil—a crudely reductive yet surprisingly—what is the word?—true formulation. Thanks for spilling the beans on that one, George, albeit a bit too late.
BTW, if the recommendations of the Baker report are taken as seriously as they clearly don’t deserve to be, we won’t be running like spanked children from Iraq any time soon since that little hellhole is a strategic player in our Middle East non-policy and, see, even though there have been a few. . .glitches we can’t just pull out but if we let the Iraqis step up in the next six months (again) and we can train their army/police forces (again) then we can secure an Honorable Peace blah blah balh. So we’re there indefinitely since the Dems don’t want to play variations on the standard but-you-lost-Vietnam theme in 2008.
Nor does “the public think that the war will end when we leave.†The public, by and large, no longer cares because it can’t afford to. The costs of fighting a disastrously conceived, incompetently executed, and unwinnable war are no longer supportable in any sense—monetary, political, psychological. And now that the neocons’ megalomaniac project for a nouveau American century has been discredited by its own architects (next time, try a remedial course in regional geopolitics, morons), we’re left to clean up the mess. But at least Kenneth Adelman, the Defense Policy Board wonk who “advised” Bush and was “crushed” by now-out-to-pasture Scumsfeld’s incompetence, now admits, “the idea of using our power for moral good in the world…it’s not going to sell” after Iraq. No more playing global Starsky and Hutch? Thanks for the small favor.
As the always-infallible Werther notes,
Since, in your typically charming euphemism, you regard the death of nearly 3,000 GI’s and who knows how many Iraqi civilians as no more than “getting a little bruised,â€Â* why don’t you put down the Hot Pockets, leave the cozy intrauterine environs of your World of Warcraft fellow dorks for a few months, and ship your ass Over There to make sure them goddam towelheads don’t fly no more planes into our buildings. But I’m bettin’ in this case bullshit walks.
P.S.: As for that ghastly rictus on Mohammed’s face, I agree with Sam Harris that fundamentalist Islam is a cult of death. But unfortunately that’s a potential it shares with any religion within the Abrahamic tradition, especially Christianity, which William Empson rightly described as a “hideous system of torture worship.†If fundamentalist twice-borners were allowed the same access to secular power as they have been in the past (Inquisition Version 2.0, anyone), I have no doubt they’d be burning infidels at the stake with the same True-Believer zeal as their head-lopping Muslim counterparts. Which explains your pathological itch to bring church and state together in wedded bliss. Talk about a marriage made in hell.
“I’m not saying we won’t get our hair mussed‗Col. Buck Turgidson, on the prospect of assured mutual destruction in Dr. Strangelove.
Get a friggin blog, troll-boy.
As soon as you quit trolling our sites, dickwad. Nice skills, BTW. . .who says y’all can’t hold your own in a closely reasoned debate? Guess those courses in remedial argumentation are finally starting to kick in. And at least yr post contains one two-syllable word this round—hey, by your standards, that’s progress! Game, set and match to moi, knuckle-dragger.
Paul, thanks for the after dinner laugh:
Sherlock is an athiest.
Oh, ma plaisir. Yuck-wise, I’m no match for the latest one-liners from stand-up jeen-yus Dubya, but think of me as the Patch Adams from the Dark (i.e., Left) Side, bringing the priceless gift of laughter to terminally reality-challenged tykes up there on the locked ward—except in this case it’s the patients who are the clowns and I’m the one who ends up laughing. So that’s what they mean by irony.
Sorry I haven’t had time to read Sher’s entire oeuvre—but it’s next on my list, I promise, just as soon as I polish off Ulysses by another litearary master (but hardly Sher’s equal!)whose stream-of-consciousness technique Sher has mastered—parodied?—to scarey perfection.
God—ha!—knows I hate to thrash on a fellow atheist, even of the…Randian (?) as opposed to the SecProg variety. It’s true that stupidity needn’t have its roots in religious pathology—look at Hitch’s sad example—but it helps. Certainly continued support for the war by now resembles the mindless Blessed Assurance made familiar by those pale, upturned faces in Pastor Ted’s congregation who still can’t believe their faithful servant of De Lord was swapping salamis with a male hooker. Needless to say, Bush also got busy with many in his “base” but this time he didn’t even buy them a Big Mac first, much less dinner. And as if that weren’t degrading enough, there was akso that cruel, mocking refrain: Swallow, bitch, swallow.
In an case, by and large these rightie blogs (even on sites hosted by Christ-killers) tend to betray traces of being washed in the Blood of the Lamb maybe once to often without ever going through the rinse cycle. Evidence? Well, dip into your own archives here and odds are you’ll find that Man from Galilee’s bloody sandalprints (however faint) on every third page. Why, just the other day. . .
You’ll have to pry that Coke can from my cold dead hand paul k.
Maybe if you had done some research, like a visit to my website, you would know that that I am athiest, it says so right there on my banner. I highly support the separation of church and state. but I’ll give you that.
WMDs – ah yes, the old stand by the koskrazies love, forgetting the thousands of Kurds sadam killed with chemical weapons. Oh no, he didn’t have them right? How about the article that the NY Times published just before the election about the state department releasing documents on the internet that showed plans for nukes and bitching that anyone could access them. Um, wouldn’t that mean that sadam had the plans?
Iraqis want us to leave? That depends on the Iraqi, something that most insurgents are not. As you post no links to your assertion that ‘most’ Iraqis want us out you assume we’ll take your word, but I could post links to polls that say different.
So let us look at the other koskrazies old standby, ‘blood for oil’… so how much oil have we gotten?
I take every American life lost in the war seriously, all 6000+. You forget the war started long before 9/11 (Tehran, Beirut…). I count all those as casualties of the war. Yet with all that it still is less then Vietnam (~60,000) or WW2 (~300,000 American). Sadly, in war people die. Even worse, death rates in some larger American cities are higher than for the soldiers in Iraq.
I’m sorry…world of warcraft? hot pockets? that’s the best insult you can come up with? As for going over there, I happen to have tried, medical reasons prevented that, but even then I would go as a civilian photographer if I could get permission to embed. And I have family proudly serving over there.
As for religion, I am no friend of any and have posted previously on them at my blog. But the fact is that most have come into the present except for islam. That fact is that islam cannot come into the 20th century as it currently stands. The qur’an was dictated to mo by allah and is considered the word of god that can not change. So ‘infidels (non-muslims) are to be killed’ is seen as mandate from god and it cannot be changed, as are the treatment of women and homosexuals and so forth.
So then in the usual way, you throw the old ‘you’re stupid’ and ‘knuckle dragger’ mantra. But I’m sure you won’t resort to the John Kerry ‘I wasn’t calling you stupid and you are stupid if you think I was calling you stupid’ apology. But I have come to expect that.
Paul, what’s with all the french?
I have never, ever trolled a liberal site. I only comment on a few sites, and they all lean right.
So, bite me, pussy boy.
A disclosure: before anyone takes it upon themselves to notice that wRitErsbLock and I have the same IP and hence think I am using sockpuppets, the fact is that wRitErsbLock has her own blog and I blog at bakerstreet. but we blog from under the same roof.
Oh, and as far as arguing with your rant, it isn’t worth the time it would take to unravel all your unsupported statements to find out if there is anything of substance underneath it all. I’ve seen plenty of the same crap from many of your ilk. No need to bother with it again.
By the way, why do you bother coming here? I cannot see the point. I guess you’re trying to “educate” us, but since you start off by immediately being an offensive little twat, I cannot imagine how you would believe anyone would care what you have to say.
Paul, what’s with all the french?
A year teaching in Provence (that’s in Surrendermonkeyland) has its risks. But hopefully the franglais just comes off as pretentious elitism.
I have never, ever trolled a liberal site. I only comment on a few sites, and they all lean right.
Ah, it’s all about you. It’s people like you who give narcissism a bad name. As if anyone except your therapist (fire him!) cared what your blogging habits are. I meant “you” in the collective sense, since one of your own (Beck) recently inflicted himself on alicublog to the great amusement of all. Also, we have to swat away little horseflies from your camp on sites like truthdig all the fucking time. So don’t go all spazzy when someone returns the favor.
Of course you only visit right-leaning preaching-to-the-choir sites, since exposure to any alternative ideas would prove intolerably threatening to your justly fragile world-view. I, on the other hand, visit conservative sites (Coulter’s, Limbaugh’s), largely for their (inadvertent) entertainment value but also because I find the thought processes of your peeps fascinating in a train-wrecky kind of way.
So, bite me, pussy boy.
Channeling Mark Foley now, are we, crankster?
P.S.: Thanks for the lessons in civility. Offensive? God knows I’m sorry! Actually, my aggro style is an homage to my fave she-male Annie-Get-Your-Gun Coulter, that voice of moderation and sweet reason. Also, I have no illusions about your educability, since you exemplify perfectly what John Gregory Dunne called “invincible ignorance.” Teachability requires something other than your tribe’s hard-wired tropisms that substitute for the higher faculties we Homo sapiens take for granted.
Hey, dumbass. I said, “Get a blog.” You said, “As soon as you quit trolling our sites, dickwad.” That is a direct response from you to me. To pull this “collective you” out of your ass after the fact is just dishonesty.
It isn’t hard to figure that out, is it? I guess it is for you, though. Not all that surprising.
As far as my “teachability” is concerned, if you want to put your academic cock on the table, I have the distinct feeling I can better you by far. And claiming that I am not human because I don’t agree with you is patently ridiculous.
And finally, you visit right-wing sites to point fingers and laugh. That isn’t a broadening of horizons, neighbor. That’s just what I would consider to be a waste of time. Every time I’ve visited a lefty site, I have realized that there is nothing there to learn since the worldview of the writers almost always is based on fantasy. YOu probably feel the same about righty sites.
SO, why bother? My guess, it’s just compulsive behavior on your part. You can’t resist the lure to think of yourself as better than others because of your beliefs, and how they make you so evolved. I haven’t met a lefty yet who didn’t think himself to be smarter than almost everyone else, and yet for a select few they seem to fall way short of their self-described promise.
Anyway, that was fun. Maybe someone else will play with you now. Or maybe they’ll make an object lesson of you. I’m thinking about it myself.
here paul, let me save you some effort.
now run along and play.
Thank you, maggie. I didn’t know where to find that.
cranky-d, it’s on the sidebar. Jeff should get some kind of award for that. or royalties.
Ohhhh, sorry. Try faux pretentious elitism.
It’s all in your head, paul, though it apprears to be shitting through your fingers. You probably want to have that looked at.
Merciful God, paul. Do you ever shut up?
I mean, not to be rude– free speech.. um.. zones, and all. And diversity.
But I can’t even read it. At least when I write several pages of nonsense I don’t expect anyone to pay any attention.
You don’t get it, do you? We Americans are a bunch of bloody barbarians, and always have been. Go suck your thumb (or other appendage) in an appropriate place.
TW: What’s worse than a man who can’t think? When that same man believes he can.
He seems a lot loke the douchebag in Good Will Hunting… “Gordon Wood says blah blah blah”
I’ll not bother with the niceties, because I find liberals to be appalling, lacking in almost every measurable quality. They are ignorant of some of the basics of life: human nature and basic economics, to name two. They are even ignorant of science and scientific principles, which they gladly set aside as they pursue the politicization of anything and everything.
But worst of all, they are rude, unutterly rude, in every medium available. It’s not even the sort of rudeness we associate with modern unpleasantness, like the cashier at subway or blockbuster—these bastards are just miserable fucking people who cannot wait to share their version of Jesus with you.
Sure, their god happens to be themselves, and their gospel happens to whatever they can plagarize and regurgitate from Noam Chomsky and other traitors to decency. But nonetheless, they speak loudly and brag of their big stick. And use ALL CAPS. Because we all know throwing a capital letter or two in makes Their Point Well Known.
It’s just gotten tiresome—I mean truly tiresome—to bother dealing with these little trolls. They have nothing to offer in the way of debate, because they won’t engage you on any actual point.
They will never concede a thing—not one fact they might have wrong, not one premise, not one conclusion, not one argument. Nothing can change their minds. When you do get them into a logical corner, instead of doing the honorable thing and conceding that, just this once, they are wrong, they instead launch into a personal attack about your weight or ethnicity or looks or change the subject or call you a chickenhawk or rant about MonkeyboyLiedPeopleDied or whatever retarded chant Michael Moore emailed to them.
Let’s just all agree: these people do not need our pity. They do, however, need our help making sure they take all their medications, pack both their sandwich and jello pudding cups for lunch, and get on the right short bus in the morning.