Because she earned the right to spit in a lot of faces, that’s for sure. From the Rocky Mountain News, “Suspect named in JonBenet killing”:
A man arrested in Thailand is being held in connection with the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, law enforcement officials said today.
John Karr, 41, a former Atlanta, Ga., resident, was arrested today in Bangkok, according to two people familiar with the investigation who spoke on the condition they not be identified.
The connection to the Ramsey family was not immediately clear.
Federal officials familiar with the case, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Thai authorities have declared the suspect an “undesirable person,” an immigration-related charge that prompted deportation. The charge stems from the suspect’s involvement in the Ramsey case, the source said.
It is unknown when Karr will be brought to the United States.
A third source close to the case who spoke anonymously identified the suspect as one-time resident of Conyers, Ga., and said he was a school teacher.
That source said that authorities had been focusing on him for some time and that Patsy Ramsey had been made aware prior to her death on June 24 that his arrest was being pursued.
Boulder District Attorney Mary Lacy today confirmed the arrest,without naming the suspect. She said it followed several months of a focused and complex investigation. “John and Patsy Ramsey both were consulted during the course of the investigation,” Lacy said in a brief press release this afternoon.
In a radio report I heard locally this afternoon, the damning evidence seemed to be that Karr knew of elements of the case that had been held back from the public.
There are also unconfirmed reports of a DNA match.
Karr’s online resumé can be viewed here. (h/t SarahW, via Ace)
And the Boulder DA has set up a webpage for those interested in following the latest developments.
Seems like someone is owed a helluva lot of apologies—a poor substitute for having one’s daughter or sister.
I have already heard that Karr’s ex-wife said that he was with her over the Christmas season in which the murder occurred, and nowhere near the Ramsey’s.
Listening to the local radio hosts pump the news, minute after minute today (while in Boulder), I came to a conclusion:
you should comment on this:
“Mr. Lieberman’s supporters have tried to depict Mr. Lamont and his backers as wild-eyed radicals who want to punish the senator for working with Republicans and to force the Democratic Party into a disastrous turn toward extremism.”
NYT, via J. Tarantino’s BOTW today.
“and to force the Democratic Party into a disastrous turn toward extremism.”
Oh, really? How easy it is huh guys? I, like, thought, we had to have some ideas, (what’s Limbaugh say?) facts, opinions, and beliefs? Looks like the Left is way, way to simplistic for that.
Anyone play a Liberal in poker lately?
EasyLiving1
Admit it. For a split second, you thought the arrest took place in Eugene, Oregon.
I can’t wait to listen to Peter Boyles’ show tomorrow.
“Ummm…never mind.”
When Deepthroat came out of hiding, that was big…but this is freakin’ unbelievable.
TW: Girl….no kidding
Um, er, I wonder if Lieberman’s defeat, the resilience of Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the emergence of a Hezbollah-style government in Iraq had any bearing, er um, on the Fed’s decision to leak the news of this arrest in the Ramsey case.
I wish I didn’t find these questions popping into my head. But the alternative is to trust the Bush administration.
Oh, and hey, what happened to the Gaycock porn of lies I was told I could find here. And the pie. Especially the pie. Gobsmackingly vile not to have been offered any pie. Pip, pip. Cheerio then guv’nor.
Wayy OT, but Retardo is having a meltdown, in case anyone’s interested.
Can you imagine St. Andrew’s reaction if the information came about from the Thai police using strong-arm questioning of the suspect?
To tie this in to an earlier discussion –
atsy-Ramsey-level guilty. How comfortable are we with the likelihood of aggressively interrogating innocents?
as leftists pretend torture doesn’t work, and any level of restrictions on interrogations can be imposed with no consequences for security, right-wingers (me included) like to pretend that the only people who we’d lean on are the absolutely, obviously, 100
’100,dash,percent sign,dash, Patsy’
so that’s how you make those things.
I question the timing. And the hatred.
Funny you should mention it. Have you been to a certain Eugene, OR blog tonight?
Grating minds think alike.
Karr has just admitted to killing her.
There are still some strange things about this. Earlier in the day, John Ramsey said he didn’t think he knew the guy, but an AP report says the Ramsey’s provided information on him to the authorities according to their attorney.
You know what? This whole episode is filed under “most grotesque” in my pea sized brain. Even if Jon Benet(?) hadn’t been tragically murdered, this whole episode is still “most grotesque” or worse.
What was this woman (Patsy) doing to that poor child?. Every time I see that little girl on TV, all I can think of is, “What kind of idiot would turn their pre-school daughtere into a sex symbol?” Aaaaaaarrrrrrgh!!!!!
I mean, WTF??
Rope, Tree, Karr. Some assembly required.
TW: Lines of people waiting to pull the switch on “Ol’ Sparkey” for this guy…
I feel like I owe these people an apology for what I thought about them. I’m trying to imagine how it would feel to lose a child and then have an entire nation think you’re guilty of murdering her. I hope they have the guy.
For many years, I thought that the Ramseys were complicit in some way, because of the ransom note asking for exactly the same amount as Ramsey’s bonus that year, and a few other odds and ends.
Then I stopped paying attention, like, say, 5-6 years ago.
The arrest of this Karr fellow is terrific, and he at least fits the profile (none of the Ramseys do), so maybe this is it.
But I suppose I do owe them a mental apology for thinking they had something to do with it. Assuming, that is, that they still don’t have anything to do with it. I am going to remain cautious here, and wonder how this Karr fellow knew the details about the family (like the size of the Xmas bonus) and the rest. On the other hand, if this pedophile had been hanging around the Ramseys in Boulder, why the heck wasn’t he investigated earlier?
I can’t square what his ex-wife and brother are saying either.
The one thing that leaps out of this, as I have been catching up on case developments since 2000, is that the police, in a praiseworthy attempt to conceal evidence to make any interrogation have any meaning (nota bene), essentially leaked a false picture that inevitably led people to suspect the Ramseys ….. also, tarting up your daughter for beauty pageants is unseemly and makes one think the worst ….
Maybe someone who’s paid closer attention will know this. Over the ten years of incessant media coverage about this case, did this guy’s name *ever* come up?
I don’t recall ever hearing it, but I’ve pretty much ignored all that media coverage anyway….
White male offs a prety young girl, then flees to a country that practically rolls out the red carpet for pederasts.
Kinda makes you go hmmmm.
……and then all of a sudden Ned Lamont’s separated-at-birth twin brother is busted for child murder.
DAMN YOU BUSH!!!
One thing that jumps out at me – this guy was a TEACHER. How many teachers, compared to priests, are sexual predators? I know what Ann Coulter says (10,667 allegations of abuse by priests over 52 years, versus 32,000 children per year by educators), but I have been unable) to discover these numbers for myself.
Any comment from the NEA?
*White male offs a prety young girl, then flees to a country that practically rolls out the red carpet for pederasts. *
Yes, exactly. His location at the time of his arrest seems to imply a child fetish and apparently he told investigators he was in love with her and she died during a kidnapping. He claims to have been mailing Patsy Ramsey before her death.
The guy is a sick fuck. What’s more sickening is we’ll be seeing his creepy looking mug all over the news for the next 6 months. He just doesn’t look right.
Assuming that Karr confessed as reported, the only remaining proof is to rule out the possibility of some deranged false confession. That shouldn’t be too difficult.
I read that he was convicted for child porn after he moved to the town where Richard Allen Davis killed Polly Klaas. Since then his resume says he’s been a “caregiver” for small children in third world countries, Korea and Europe–where a criminal record might not follow you. It was his job to bathe the small children. And, of course, he winds up in Thailand.
His brother claims Karr’s some kind of amateur author, obsessed with child murder (like Polly). He was “researching” Jon Benet. This cuts both ways. It does seem to fit the bizarre pedophile killer profie. OTH, maybe he could acquire inside information about the undisclosed details.
I hope and expect that forensics will clear it all up. At a minimum hand-writing on the note, with the possibility of some DNA. Handwriting is not as strong.
You’d have to assume that the DA/FBI already fumed the paper for latents. I just expect they would announce or leak it if they matched a latent.
BTW, full disclosure, I too feel quite sheepish about suspecting the mom. The problem is that family members are always the first suspects just by the probabilities.
Mom did have an odd demeanor, but she was suffering from the most horrific stress we can imagine in our worst screaming nightmares. It could surely cause a normal person to act a bit odd.
It is possible that the perp confessed to get out of a Thai prison. Apparently Thai prisons are bad enough to make you want to be jailed for murder here.
Hello, Special Place in Hell? Yes, hi. Please prepare a room.
As I understand it—and please take this with a grain of salt, because I got it yesterday from a radio blurb, and I wasn’t really paying close attention—Karr had been previously questioned.
Secret details the NY Times hasn’t blown yet ?
Does this mean they behaved responsibly in this one case ?
Why would they ?
I’ve learned the hard way that initial media reports are always hysterical and frequently wrong, so I wouldn’t be stunned if this mope had confessed in some sort of sick attempt at fame/notoriety.
Of course, if this freak is guilty, I need to go get in the line of people that the Ramseys can spit on.
This is what convicted the Ramseys in the court of public opinion – and I include myself in this group of unappointed jurors, completely. The Ramseys are heavily involved in this tacky/creepy activity? Must be perverts.
Of course, this is where a multicultural understanding of oddball subcultures such as the child pageant scene would have helped us in our tolerance and understanding of the Ramseys. Too bad multiculturalism most definitely does not apply to white, upper-middle-class Americans.
Too many questions still unanswered for an apology. Should one be needed though I’ve got one ready.
I will say that a DNA match right now is kinda suspect, they don’t even work that fast on CSI.
Things are still in the air
>>”What was this woman (Patsy) doing to that poor child?. Every time I see that little girl on TV, all I can think of is, “What kind of idiot would turn their pre-school daughtere into a sex symbol?†Aaaaaaarrrrrrgh!!!!!”
Maybe this is what Deb meant when she said she hoped nobody Jon-Benet-ed Jeff’s kid. A stranger might attack with eyeliner and a powder puff and AUGGGGHHHH NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
The NEA: “All our teachers are wonderful and practically perfect in every way! How could you impute such behavior to an NEA-affiliated teacher!
“Non-unionized teachers and teachers at charter schools, on the other hand, are probably buggering them left, right, and center. Which is why all teachers should be members of the NEA.”
From the beginning, I don’t think that Mr. Karr actually killed her. I too, have suspected someone in the family. The fact that the media reports that the police did not “look outside the Ramsey family” is a lie. They interviewed all Mr. Ramsey’s employers, friends, maids, including the “Santa” and his wife who entertained at the party, along with other suspicious characters in the Boulder area. Nothing. They took all the facts and submitted them to 20 FBI profilers. The profilers say that the note did not fit the profile of a kidnapper, etc. They came to the conclusion, that whoever murdered that child, was comfortable in that house. Why first, in an expensive home was a window left unrepaired [John Ramsey said it wasn’t working]. Where was their ALARM system? He is worth 6.4 million dollars at the time. Why did JonBenet visit the pediatricain over 30 times in 3 years? Some with vaginal infections blamed on too many bubble baths? Why did the autopsy report read that she had been sexually molested over a period of time? In other words, her female parts had been interfeared with, there was some permanent damage. At least thats what I read. You can get the autopsy report online, for free. Who would know about the 118,000 dollar bonus? Why was she choked from behind [using the rope and garrett?] the profilers said that whoever killed her, could not look into her face. This is a very odd case. I don’t like to think that any parent would purposefully murder their child, but it happens all the time. Money doesn’t equal morals. I pray to God that Patsy Ramsey is in heaven with her daughter, and that she is not involved with this crime. I’d like to think she wasn’t. It’s a strange world, and anything is possible. However, I don’t think Karr is repsonsible but he is a PERVERT so people automatically want to believe he did it, so they can stop thinking JonBenet’s parents were responsible. Let’s wait and see.