A reader sends along the following, pulled from a comment by Frisch (now “word warrior”) on her site:
Ephu, Count Cockula. Jeff – I really encourage you to have Mrs. Cockula google S*tchel so she can see what you do while she’s at work all day. Trust me on this, Jeff. Cunt Cockula really needs to google S*tchel.
Guess Deb isn’t quite done milking her 15 minutes.
This time, however, I’ve contacted the authorities.
Good gravy, this woman is patently insane.
I think her daddy never quite loved her enough as a child – I’ve rarely seen such “Pay attention to meeeeee!”-ism in the past, other than in the North Korean theater (well, now I think Hizb’allah gets lumped in on that list too, come to think of it).
Hoist in her own petard. Who’d a thunk? Just shows that if you give an idiot enough rope, they’ll do all your work for you…
Funny, too, how she can’t bring herself to spell out a particularly dirty Saxon term for the copulative act, and yet she feels perfectly comfortable using one of the vilest terms for a woman’s nethers that one could think of.
I think we’re dealing with a blogospheric Two Face here, only both sides of her personality are clearly detached from reality. It’s a real Mr. Hyde/Mr. Hyde situation, I tells ya.
Good for you. The woman is deranged.
5150
“72 hours for psychological observation”
Evil shenanigans
Don’t blame you Jeff, that woman is out of her mind.
I’m not a schizophrenic. Neither am I.
The Hizbees are just puppets on the Mad Mullahs’ strings.
Let’s see, so will it be a denial that she wrote it (because posts are so easy to fake), or a whine that you made her do it? We all know that it’s a cry for attention—she’s obviously enjoyed the pub of late, and now she wants more. She’s sold what little of her soul remains for a few site hits.
Seriously, I don’t get it.
I googled “satchel” and all I got was Satchel Paige the baseball player and some other unrelated stuff.
Seriously, what the heck is she talking about?
Jeff – This chick sounds more and more like a stalker. It is one thing to disagree politically with someone. Even though she is an empty-headed retard lib. What are they putting into the water up in Eugene Or?
She sounds pathetic and staved for attention. I say she up the dosage, those crazy pills are not working!
Won’t be long before the Heathers (GiGi, Gavin, and Retardo) are declaring solidarity with the Frischenator.
Well, this time go after her like Israel is going after Hizbollah. Take no prisoners!!!
I’ll be interested to hear Ann Althouse or Glenn Greenwald make the case for how “my style” I instigated this one, too.
Maybe Althouse can do another vlog. Or else go old school and just call me a prick again.
The kind of equivalencies drawn by Inside Higher Ed, the Tuscon Citizen, and others repulse me. They provide cover for people like Frisch because they can’t bring themselves to condemn them without adding their own ego-stroking explorations of “root causes.”
My son is 2; my wife never posts or comments on my site. There is no excuse for bringing them specifically into this.
Yeah, this is a mite too obsessive. Enough is long past enough. Anyone know if Greenwald has condemned her? Did he ever do it the first go ‘round?
Does Brit Hume know about this?
Good for you Jeff.
I’m going for a walk to clear my head.
Too bad Frisch does not take her own advice and google Satchel. She would have come across Satchel Paige’s Rules for Staying Young.
She should pay particular attention to the following:
Jeff, I’ve avoided commenting on this whole affair and regret it (at first, I was going to say I found Frisch to be mentally unstable and it would have been better to ban her. I stand by that but didn’t feel like telling you how to run your own blog.)
However, the time for the kid gloves to come off has arrived. Screw Outhouse and Greensleeves, and all your other detractors. Have the authorities get this lady and put her where she belongs. Personally, I think she’s having some sort of psychotic episode (not psychopathic) and should be monitored to ensure she’s not truly a threat. But even after all the horseshit she’s shoveled around here, if she thinks she can still do this kind of stuff, something is seriously wrong with her.
I doubt she’d physically be able to hurt your family, but god knows if she’s just lost her job, she may have a lot of free time on her hands and judging by her words, she’s not exactly being rational.
Please call the authorities, Jeff. Protect your family.
Get in touch with her host/ISP when you get back. She’s waaaay in violation of her TOS, no doubt.
A walk is a good idea.
I’m glad you’re going to the authorities with this latest load of crap from her. No one else seems to have done anything else about her except ban her from their sites. The cops should have been called on her a long time ago.
God, what a f’n freak.
It seems as though she has fully integrated the lessons of Mother Sheehan: say enough incendiary stuff and the cameras will keep showing up. Except here, the stakes are so much lower than on national TV.
Now, how’s that old saying go: “ Academic politics are so bitter precisely because the stakes are so small”? Hmmm, things begin to make sense now…
Good decision, Jeff. She’s a horrible excuse for a human being.
Me dumb.
I don’t get the satchel reference either.
Anyone wanna learn me up a little?
Ah…the leftist martydom/victomhood was PHONY BULLSHIT!
SHOCK!
You did the right thing by contacting the authorities, it’s apparent she obsessed—and doesn’t have much else going for her—and so you can’t be too careful.
Doesn’t she have a partner? Family? Someone to tell her just knock it off, enough? Take your meds and call YOUR shrink?
Good move, Jeff. This is way beyond funny and pathetic.
The woman’s a breathing advertisement for the necessity of the Second Amendment.
Absolutely follow this up and insist the authorities do something. She need cops showing up on her doorstep.
You might want to consider a lawsuit, too. Her assets would be a wholly-owned subsidiary of Goldstein Publishing, LLC, by the time a suitably-fanged attorney was done with her. In perpetuity.
Hmmmm.
@ Jeff
It’s an extremely short step from feeling aggrieved, true or not, and resorting to violence. And frankly Frisch is giving all the signs of a mental meltdown.
Please follow up with the authorities. People have been injured by others for lesser causes, and that’s nothing you want to have happen to your family.
Perhaps your wife and child should have a nice visit with her parents? I’m sure the grandparents would love to see their grandchild. And getting them firmly out of reach is probably a good idea. So far we haven’t seen an instance of blogging related violence, but it’s unfortunately not that unimaginable by some of the whackier people on the left.
And I seriously doubt they come much whackier than her.
There’s nothing I can say about this that hasn’t already been said, so I’m just going to mention that “Hangman” was on the radio just now.
I’m developing an unhealthy Styx-ation.
“Maybe she was abused as a child.”
“G–, I F—ing hope so.”
We’re talking about cunt, right? Oh, please.
I remember a time a guy threatened to kill my son (who was 18 at the time.) I was way pissed and got his data and all that. But after a couple days I let it go.
On the other hand, it’s never too early to contact the authorities if you feel threatened. Paper trail.
do a google search on satchel charge, I think this is what she is infering, with room to say she was saying “look at the luggage”
Insane in the membrane
mmm, so it’s the weekend and someone’s feeling lonely.
Google returned an entry from Wiki. There’s something called a “satchel charge:”
A satchel charge is a powerful, man-portable explosive device used by infantry and airborne troops. In World War II, combat engineers used satchel charges to demolish heavy stationary targets such as rail, obstacles, blockhouses, bunkers, caves, and bridges. The WWII-era U.S. Army ‘Kit, Demolition, M37’ contained 8 blocks of Tetrytol high explosive, with 2 priming assemblies, in a canvas bag with a shoulder strap. Part or all of this charge could be propped against a structure or slung into an opening. It was usually detonated with a pull igniter. The later U.S. ‘Charge Assembly, Demolition, M183’ contained 10 pounds of C-4 plastic explosive in each satchel and could be used with a timed fuse.
I hope to God that’s not what she’s referring to.
What a weird world I live in.
Contacting the authorities seems like the only thing you can do at this point. We can hope that she won’t escalate this any further but as someone above pointed out, now that she’s jobless, she probably has a LOT of free time on her hands. And once the crazy fog fades a bit (or intensifies, I’m not sure how that works), she might start to blame you for the fact that she’s out of a job. I’m sure you’ll keep us posted on what happens. Stay safe.
This was just sent to the TUscan Citizen, Insider Higher Ed and the “Townhouse” email list…expect the appropiate leftist and MSM response.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
BLOGGER CONTINUES TO THREATEN FORMER UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA PROFESSOR
A former University of Arizona adjunct instructor was again threatened by conservative bloggers because of comments on her political blog.
Deborah Frisch, 44, posted several comments last week on a site named “Protein Wisdom,” which belongs to Colorado resident Jeff Goldstein. She quickly came under fire from right-wing bloggers, who went as far as threatening to inform the authorities and violently endangering Frisch’s career by contacting her supervisor.
Tensions escalated again after Frisch and Goldstein swapped comments about Goldstein’s wife. The debate got personal after Goldstein again threatened Frisch, and after several commenters on Goldstein’s blog began agitating the situation with hateful and aggressive c Goldstein wrote, “I’ve contacted the authorities.”
Frisch responded: “Frankly I have the right to free speech, and to debate. That’s what America’s all about, well at least until the Oil-grubbing neocon zionists took over and started a police state. Everyday millions of Iraqi wives are threatened by the Bushco War Machine and Ann Coutler. We have a right to talk about Jeff’s wife and to hide outside his garbage cans with a camcorder and laser pointer. The fact he continues to obsess over me is just proof of the paranoid nature of the Rovian message machine.”
For information, contact:
Glen Greenwald
FREE MUMIA!
There’s nothing sinister about “Satchel” as a reference to a male child; look at Woody Allen’s child for Pete’s sake.
It just isn’t sinister. The last line I did not like, but I’m not spelling it out.
Desparate times call for desparate measures, folks. It’s time to act. I propose a rolling fast until South West Paw shuts down permanently. I’ll take tomorrow.
I suppose it was too much to hope that the behaviorally challenged Ms Frisch would simply go away. I think contacting the authorities was a very good idea, this woman is crazier than a crap house rat.
You dorks, Satchel is a relative of JG’s (try the search “Satchel site:proteinwisdom.com”). I’m not sure what the nutjob frisch expects Mrs. G. to find by “googl[ing] Satchel”, but “what you do while she’s at work all day” sounds potentially libelous, and the whole blockquote, out of context though it may be, is pathetic and creepy.
This will end w/o further hassle if: Jeff ignores Debbie, and no one provokes Jeff by emailing him Debbie’s posts. And if Debbie stops talking about Jeff’s family.
So, let’s go there.
Looks like her site is down.
so I guess someone needs to condem Misha before Glenn and his Autonmous Greenwald Vehicle (Mona) start rolling…
In fairness to Deb, it must be tough to let these things just go when every time she opens a soda she hears it hissing: Jeffffffffffffff.
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Ummm….I don’t know exactly what’s happening, but if you try to get to her site, it appears to be down. It either has been shut down or she is now experiencing a DoS attack.
Are you gonna go get Dr. Demento on board, steve? Maybe you can work on the Palestinians after that.
Be sure that reader gets a screen shot. Her posts are changing by the minute. One poster I noticed described the definition of a sociopath. It fits her to a “T”.
The server is up (82.165.197.218) but its DNS records appear to be gone. connecting directly to the server address nets a 404.
TW: how many hours does it take to get to Colorado from Oregon?
Misha is a poor marksman,
has less than stellar personal grooming habits,
can’t parallel park to save his life,
buys the first round and then misses a turn,
and doesn’t have his ticket and money ready at the toll booth.
I condemn him.
.
Brian, maybe someone has had a word with her host. If I owned the server that shit was on, well, it wouldn’t be on there for long.
Umm,
Does all this mean another lame excuse is coming for no dancing armadillo?
No problem loading her site for me.
OK, I just found the “word warrior” comment, and in reading it appears she has plenty of people in her life “shocked and appalled” at her and appealing for her to stop…the weird AND CREEPY thing is she saw/sees herself an a necessary mission and that’s scary…call the cops.
I was just told what Deb meant when she used the phrase “Satchel.”
Deb, you are seriously messed up.
Creepy.
For being incredibly confusing? What the hell is hell is up with “google satchel”?
Ya. Its really baffling how much people on the internet like to bring up others’ non-internet life.
Count Cockula?
I don’t get it. She sure has a dirty mouth for a lez. She MUST be the butch.
I’d still do her though.
Ok, you gonna share?
Well, I just had lunch, and won’t be having dinner for several hours, so I’ll take it for that time.
You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. A satchel is a “sack”, yes, but … and a “satchel charge” is an explosive, but ….
Satchel as a first name comes from Afro-Am slang. It’s a nick, you take the most prominent thing and call them that, using “Satchel-” as a prefix. Big mouth? “Satchelmouth” = “Satchmo” Big feet? “Satchelfoots” = “Satchel” The latter form became popular and is used as a first name for boys. What’s the big deal?
only if you compartmentalize
I almost hate to add gasoline to this fire, but I just happened across this on Villainous Company:
I’ll take from after dinner until about 1:00am when I have my drunken midnight snack. Then I can go again from about 1:30am until probably 11am. All times central.
I thought I had figured out the code of “google Satchel.” But I looked on Wikipedia, and Satchel Paige was not a Southpaw. So there is no apparent connection to the name of her blog.
I’m left with the idea that she thinks either you or your wife don’t know that your child’s namesake is black (and she thinks that is somehow very significant to you.)
Its talking about the Satchel charge thing, which considering that many liberal leftists are apologists for the world’s biggest death cult, well, its not exactly surprising she doesn’t find child murder particularly problematic.
Honestly, I think if you ignore her, she’ll go away. She’s a coward hiding behind a keyboard and while she’s obviously crazy, I sincerely doubt she has the balls (=p) to actually “do” anything.
If I participate with the fast, can I still eat ice cream?
What ”authorities” does a person contact in this kind of situation?[besides the local police]
The Satchel Google Code, by Dan Brown
It occurs to me that I live about 40 minutes away from this loon. Hmmmmmm…
Worst case of Penis envy I’ve ever seen….
Jeff has the common-sense God didn’t give Deb, the authorities have been notified, the lesson with the NRA pistol instructor scheduled, so on with the PW commentariat stuff.
Deb Frisch Knows What You Did Last Summer
Jeff, this is the internet police, we’ve tracked the IP address Deb’s posting from and we have triangulated the source of the wi-fi connection.
She’s blogging from within your house, Jeff.
Deb Frisch is blogging from inside the house
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I haven’t had any trouble getting into Debbie’s site (either.)
I can’t help it, she’s cute.
“This is not fair fighting. “
Simply incredible. She threatens a toddler, then bitches about “fairness.”
“In this case, I was publicly humiliated by having the story on the front page of the Arizona Daily Star, the local Tucson paper. My boss was called by 300 people. “
Typical leftist, playing the victm. She threatens a 2 year old in a public forum, then whines when everyone sees it. Naturally they no longer want to associate with a pyscho…
“It wasn’t Protein Wisdom that escalated the battle – it was BlackFive that did it.”
Shorter Deb: “I would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you meddling kids!!”
Jeff,
I have some personal experience with this kind of person. Long story short, a guy was stalking my now ex-husband (yes, he’s gay! Who knew!). This guy left letters for me at my job, wrote filth on our cars, made late-night phone calls to me when he knew my ex wasn’t home, and finally broke into our house when I was out with the kids. We got photos of the damage, involved detectives, stayed with relatives for a couple of days. Ex-husband pressed charges, and My Own Personal Psycho went to jail for a couple weeks. That’s the last I’ve heard of him. That was two years ago, but I’m still looking over my shoulder.
This stuff you’re going through with Frisch has really hit close to home for me. It’s all too familiar.
A couple of other commenters have noted that she now has a lot of time on her hands, and she’s still obsessing about you and your family. Personally, I think that the only reason you haven’t found her hiding in the bushes outside your house is because you live in different cities–but maybe I’m just paranoid because of my experience. That said, does anyone know where she is right now? She said she was leaving Tuscon for Eugene. Did she actually go to Eugene?
This has gone too far already. I’m so relieved you’re going to the authorities. Her behavior won’t stop unless it’s made to stop. Good for you for fighting back! Keep it up!
Believe me, buddy, as a SAHD (stay-at-home-dad) to a beautiful 2-year-old (a little girl in my case), it is hard to describe the primal response I would have to such a lunatic’s fixation on me and mine. Call the authorities on the filthy fucking pervert. Make her suffer as much as possible within the confines of the law (which, sadly, won’t be much if at all). Consider lawyering-up.
Maybe you can get her listed as a sex offender. Just think of how much you’ll enjoy seeing her mulleted mug on Oregon’s Megan’s Law page.
Hang in there. It’s easy for people to say it isn’t a big deal when this isn’t happening to them. I’d take this seriously if it were happening to me.
No. It was Deborah Frisch, PhD that escalated the battle.
I also question the timing and placement of this comment. While I’m certain Villainous Company is a fine Blog, I had never heard of it before this week, as Powerline’s Blog of the Week.
Jeff –
Just a simple message – I’m sincerely sorry that you’re having to go through this.
I’d somehow never seen your blog before last weekend’s brouhaha, despite my addiction to the right side of the blogosphere.
Like everyone else, I was amused watching the Frischian trainwreck. I found her to be nothing more than emblematic of the left as a whole, and her behavior simply reinforced what I already know about modern neo-liberalism.
And I thought you handled the whole thing with an admirable sense of humor and class.
But for the most part – I considered it a joke. Vulgar and vile, but basically funny … a liberal meltdown on tape, with the rhetoric taken to hyperbolic extremes.
Now … I’m not so sure it’s funny anymore.
I don’t think it’s political. I think this woman is having some very significant mental health issues. I don’t mean to exaggerate the threat involved … but I think there may actually be some level of threat here.
I really hope you’re taking at least minimal precautions. You might consider hiring some temporary personal protection. Or arming yourself.
At the very least – contacting the authorities was wise … and you might consider a restraining order.
Something is just not right with this woman. This isn’t a blog war or a flame fest. Something is “off” here. Not in the funny way. In the John Hinckley way. In the climbing a clock tower way.
Take care of yourself. Be safe. Keep in mind that everything we’ve seen has been public – I can’t imagine what this person might do privately. Watch your back. More importantly, watch your family’s back.
Best to you and yours. I am truly sorry you’ve had to deal with this. God bless.
From Texas Sparkle…
http://blogs.chron.com/texassparkle/2006/07/careful_what_you_say_on_the_bl.html
Satchel is listed in the Urban Dictionary:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Satchel
But I still don’t see the point.
I’m glad you contacted the police, Jeff.
Be safe.
Damn, what a pathetic freak. How in the hell was she “publicly humiliated” by having that apologia published? They bent over backwards to make her look like the victim, for crying out loud.
Word warrior, my ass. Dyspeptic loon is more like it.
Time has passed…do you get it yet? You’ve been on this site for quite a while, more than I and I get and got it ASAP.
None of those defs have anything to do with how “Satchel” became a boy’s name. (I can think of at least 2, maybe 3 boys with that name.)
As I said, “Satchel” meant “big” and was used as a prefix for a nickname. It has nothing to do with scrotes.
Satchel is my son’s name, Steve. Get it now?
The whole cryptic nutjob thing isn’t cute. Either way, nail her to the wall, Mr. Goldstein. This bitch has made it clear that she won’t let this drop.
Yes, of course, Jeff. I get it. She has no business talking about your son, I concur. I am addressing the other posts who are getting into this explosive scrotum scene.
OTOH, to “google someone’s satchel” sounds obscene, and that is why I objected to her post.
I will email her and tell her so.
“Satchel is listed in the Urban Dictionary”
Jeff
Took a look at the Urban Dictionary, don’t know if Frisch is referring to this definition, but if this is the case, you did the right thing by contacting authorities. Be safe Jeff, I’m sitting here in Socal wondering whats next for this psycho
Best
TODD
“Fresh Frisch”? ”Fresh Frisch”?
More like ”Dessicated Frisch”, me thinks.
When I knocked that hornet’s nest to the ground and started stomping on it, they all ganged up on meeeee!
Not. Fair.
You might have a case, Jeff. I seem to recall people hauled away on child porn laws for behavior much less egregious than this (e.g., not targeted at a specific minor). Jurors with kids take a very dim view of this kind of thing.
And try to keep in mind, everyone, Frisch’s whole point in all this is to prove how nutty we all are. Help ensure her dreams go unfulfilled by making an effort to keep your own responses civil.
Just let it drop. She’ll get a nice job in Eugene working for non-profit or co-op coffee shop where she’ll be happy. She’ll post stupid things on her blog every now and again and no one will read them. Life will go on. Just quit posting about her.
Plus, you can use it as an excuse to make your wife let you get a concealed carry permit and a cool hammerless Smith and Wesson .357. Win-win and win.
2¢/
peter.
Jeez, Steve, I think it was mentioned quite a few times that Satchel is JGs son’s name.
Stop playing Kofi to Jeff’s Israel.
Folks, here’s more from the Texas Sparkle thread, as mentioned above. Apparently, Frisch thinks she was baited, and unfortunately fell for it. Per this reply, she’s offering Jeff’s former comments as some sort of defense.
>You have become an internet joke.
I can deal with that.
>Dragging in the blogger’s wife and child is inexcusable.
Google satchel goldstein and you’ll see this isn’t the first time Count C*ckula baited a troll into a sexual reference about his kid. The kid’s two. Doncha think the count bears a little responsibility for the degeneration of the conversation, given that he talks incessantly about his c*ck on his limp blog?
Posted by: deb at July 13, 2006 12:46 PM
I don’t get it. Spell it out for me. I am aware that Satchel is Jeffs sons name but I googled it and there really wasn’t anything there that related.
I apologize for being so stupid.
Deb has a similar, though not quite as bizzare, history with Cassandra, the proprietor of VC.
Dr. Demento seems to like poking people in the eye, then asking for favors, then poking them in the eye again…
This Frischian fracas brings up one obvious question: how long will it be before some other absolutely obscure wannabe blogger becomes a copycat Frichist?
After all – the looniest of the loons has now demonstrated that anyone (no matter how vapid) can instantly draw mass traffic to their site by copying her patented Frisching.
As long as you have no ethics or morals, a few truly vile words posted on a popular blog can make you famous for a day. Call it the Frisch Principle, if you will.
I could be wrong, but I suspect others will do the same. And sooner, rather than later.
Just so we’re clear, every one here knows that when Frisch is referring to “Satchel,” she is talking about JG’s kid who has that name? It just seems like a few people for one reason or another aren’t getting that piece of the puzzle.
Its easy for me to say this, but I don’t read her latest nasty post as a clever way of saying, “I’m going to blow up your house” or anything like that. She is just writing in that creepy seventh-grade idiot style of hers (btw, it blows my freakin’ mind that she was an instructor at the U of A…I mean, I thought it was difficult to become a teacher at the college level? Is that another of the many things I know nothing about?)
However, when I read her writing, I do hear the voice of Private Pyle (Full Metal Jacket) doing the narration in my head…
FYI
Lane County Sheriff’s Office
125 E. 8th Avenue
Eugene, OR 97401
http://www.co.lane.or.us/Sheriff/
Oregon Department of Justice
Internet Crimes Against Children
610 Hawthorne Ave SE, Ste 210
Salem, Oregon 97301
(503) 378-6347
http://www.doj.state.or.us/oricac/index.shtml
The Register Guard (Newspaper in Eugene, OR)
http://www.registerguard.com/rga/index.php/contacts/C15/
NewsSource 16 (local NBC TV news)
http://www.kmtr.com/contactus/
KEZI 9 (local ABC TV news)
http://www.kezi.com/register.cfm?id=569
KVAL 12 (local CBS TV news)
http://www.kval.com/x3217.xml
Send lawyers, guns and money … the shit has hit the fan.
Yo, Steve: if you think this butch dyke is “cute”, you need to re-examine … uh … everything. Plame is cute in her little jammies. Frisch is just ugly/creepy.
Pyle. 0-three hundred. Infantry. You made it.
Is this some kind of code?!
Re-read the blog. I know who Satchel Goldstein is. Others seem to think that the phrase “google satchel” is somehow pregnant with meaning.