For those of you who have yet to see it, the internet is buzzing over this interview with former Army Ranger Jessie [in some accounts, “Jesse”] MacBeth, who—like a modern day Winter Soldier—spins the familiar anti-war tale of an idealistic young man who goes into service proudly and eagerly, only to become disillusioned by the way his own comrades-in-arms are directed to behave by a brutish US military command, who encourages them to commit atrocities against innocent Iraqis.
A purported member of Iraqi Veterans Against the War, MacBeth tells us, “We’re not there to help them”—a “truth” that has already been embraced by many on the anti-war left, and one that “MacBeth” reinforces in his interview. Poor, disillusioned soldiers—turned into animals by an unfeeling and vicious command structure that has its own unspoken “agenda” for Iraq.
It’s like an Oliver Stone movie, only (blessedly) about 3 hours shorter.
But as several people (including many confirmed soldiers) have already begun pointing out, there is much that is wrong with Army Ranger MacBeth’s costume and story (incidentally, wasn’t it another MacBeth who, on the “cherry-picked” prophesy of a cabal of evil (neocon?) witches, took power over a kingdom that was not rightfully his, and was later plagued by guilt, suspicion, and paranoia—and haunted by the ghosts of his misdeeds—until his wife went mad, and he, having plotted one too many machinations to secure his own imperialist power, is ultimately toppled and killed as a result of his own arrogance? Because oh! The irony!)—from the “laughable” “ranger” photo (which gets wrong the sleeve roll, the t-shirt, the beret flash, and shows no unit insignia) to the timing: notes Allah, who points to a story from an Arizona student newspaper (dated April 12, 2004) for context, “the narrator described Macbeth as having been in Iraq for 16 months. How, if he was already back in the U.S. thirteen months after the war began?”
And on and on…
Which leads me to ask: Is this really what it’s come to?
And, if this “interview” is confirmed as the fake it appears to be (oops—it’s interviews, evidently) is it okay—and I ask only because, you know, I want to know the rules, is all—is it okay now to question the “patriotism” of those who’d lie about the behavior of our soldiers and commanders in order to undermine support for the war?
Or is this just another example of the type of thing that is permissable in the service of “the greater good” as decided upon by a particular group of “progressives” who just happens to fancy themselves our moral and intellectual betters?
Thanks in advance for your timely reply.
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update Despite that we now know he works in a Wendy’s and fancies himself a socialist revolutionary, Jesse MacBeth is still being hailed as a genuine article by the wannabe Truth to Power speakers on this Something Awful thread.
Most telling are a few posts who link back to me:
Here come the pro-war conservatives, throwing out the usual “if he criticizes the war he CAN’T be a soldier!”
and
regardless of their asshole comments, he needs to prove his identity absolutely and unrefutably. Then again, he could provide all kinds of proof and these whacko righties still wouldn’t beleive [sic] it.
Quick question: what about the “proof” offered by, you know, actual Rangers and vets that have debunked the claims this guy is making about his identity?
And where have I ever said—even once—that anyone who criticizes the war CAN’T be a soldier?
Answer: only in the fevered, shallow brainpans of the kind of woefully misinformed suburban basement loungers who post on the Something Awful forums and think “being political” requires nothing but a bit of showy passion. Because, you see, facts and information take time to unearth and understand—and who has time for that? Especially when strawmen and seething boilerplate hatred of the “pro-war” right is so easy—and still leaves you time left over for PlayStation and Hot Pockets.
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update 2: Robert Fane emails me that this site contains some additional info on our interpid Ranger hero, namely a 2003 story from the Eastern Arizona Courier, titled “Soldier struggles with memories of Iraqi war”:
The war in Iraq was officially called to an end a few months ago, but according to Private First Class Jesse MacBeth, 19, of Pima, the turmoil has just begun.
MacBeth, a ranger in the U.S. Army, returned to the states two-and-a-half months ago after sustaining an injury in his back. He spent 14 months serving in the Middle East—first in Afghanistan and then in Baghdad.
Formerly from Tucson, MacBeth now resides in Pima, where he has family, friends and a fiancé. He said that small-town life is the perfect remedy for the various traumas that he suffered during his service in the Middle East.
“Loud noises startle me,” he said. “Its nice and quiet here. I live in a trailer out in the middle of nowhere.” According to MacBeth, his reaction to loud noise stems from the horrible experiences that he had while in Iraq. After returning to Ft. Benning in Georgia, he was officially diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and received both medication and counseling to help him adjust to a non-combative environment.
“The Iraqis would stand in a crowd and shoot at us. We had to kill civilians to get to them because we were ordered to shoot anything that came at us,” he said. “I keep having nightmares about it.”
MacBeth and others in the 10-man unit in which he served were some of the first soldiers in Baghdad. He said his unit had a special duty to perform. “We had to clear the loyalists from the tunnels under the city. Some were from the Republican Guard.”
MacBeth was shot in the back by an M-16 rifle while in a tunnel. He remembers that he had to continue fighting after a Canadian nurse quickly stitched up his wounds. “They would sew you up and you’d have to just keep on going,” he said. MacBeth is haunted daily by the memories of his service in Iraq. “We didn’t think about what was going on while we were there,” he said, “but it’s coming back in dreams. I don’t like to remember it.” He recalls watching his buddies die, which he said is nearly unbearable for him to think about at times. “I lost good friends that I trained with,” he said. “I gave some dog tags to family members personally.”
For MacBeth, one of the most important duties during the war was protecting those he served with. He said that after the traumas U.S. soldiers faced daily, loyalty became their main area of concentration. “It wasn’t for the glory,” he said. “We fought to protect each other.”
He remembers the conditions that he and fellow soldiers faced in Iraq with much trepidation. “There was so much stress and pressure there,” he said. “I saw grown men that I looked up to crying.” MacBeth said that often American soldiers went for days without sleeping or eating due to the stress and paranoia brought on by the dangerous environment. “We never knew where the gunfire was coming from,” he said, “and we were losing battles. A lot of my friends wanted to kill themselves over there.”
According to MacBeth, the attitude displayed by Iraqi civilians further dampened the U.S. soldier’s spirits. “Some people were grateful that we were over there, and that helped,” he said. “But that was only a handful of people. Most of them hated us.” The vehemence displayed by the Iraqi people is not completely unjustified, he said. “We wouldn’t like it either if soldiers came into our homes with weapons and forced us to live a certain way.”
MacBeth joined the army when he was 17 with hopes of defending America’s security. He said that he felt a strong sense of duty and a desire to serve during his days of military training. After his experiences in Iraq, he said his feelings have changed. “All of the values like honor, pride and integrity don’t mean anything in war,” he said. “There’s nothing honorable about killing kids. I did nothing heroic.”
Though he has been scarred by the desolation of war, MacBeth said he wants to start a new life. He plans on marrying soon and wants to find work and buy a home here in the valley. Counseling sessions to battle his Post Traumatic Stress Disorder are still on his agenda and he is undergoing surgeries to remove shrapnel from his back. In November, he’ll attend a hearing for his medical discharge from the military.
The battle in Iraq is behind him, but MacBeth said he will struggle with his memories of war for a lifetime.
No mention of his unit, nor any specifics about his buddies who died or whose dog tags he delivered to the families.
Instead, this reads like First Blood—without all the hair, and without that whole wilderness cock battle with Brian Dennehy and David Caruso, which was really nothing more than a diversion from the pain John Rambo felt.
At any rate, we’ll soon find out if this guy is the Ranger he claims he is. Pajamas Media has a collection of blogger reaction, many of those represented active or former military.
More here.
So, MacBeth is going to run for President on the Democrat ticket some day then? Is she aware that deaths in Iraq per 100,000 are lower than Jamaica?
OK-if this guy is legit, let him come forward with his Ranger school class number and we can look for his picture.
Otherwise, I call shenanigans.
Fascist.
Just to add to the pile-on… this guy is all wrong. I had the privilege to meet many Rangers, both in CONUS and while deployed (helped patch up a few during the Afghanistan invasion).
Betting money this guy is no Ranger.
TW: light. If you shine a little light on this guy’s claims, they’ll vanish like smoke.
I’m just surprised its taken the Left this long to re-reach their 1973 nadir. I can honestly say that I loathe the type of anti-war leftist that stoops to this level. It really is a repeat of Vietnam, all over again, from a domestic politics perspective. When is this generation’s John Kerry going to throw someone else’s medals over the White House fence for CNN’s cameras?
There are no rules if you are a revolutionary . . .
Jessie MacBeth quote: “When I was growing up, everyone thought I’d be a criminal, but they were wrong. I’m gonna be one of the leaders of the revolution.” (Courtesy of SocialistAlternative.Org)
“…and was later plagued by guilt, suspicion, and paranoiaâ€â€and haunted by the ghosts of his misdeedsâ€â€until his wife went mad, and he, having plotted one too many machinations to secure his own imperialist power, is ultimately toppled and killed as a result of his own arrogance?”
Leave Bill out of this.
Can someone besides Michael J. Fox pleeeeeze play him in the movie? What’s Danny Bonaduce doing these days?
If this guy was a Ranger, I am Bill Clinton. Please let him try to recite the Ranger Crede. I call bullshit. What do think MJ? He doesnt look capable of passing the mountain course……More like the latte test at Starbucks…..
That pencil-necked geek is supposed to be a Ranger?
Unlikely.
This is the video? This guy is a Ranger?
Well, what the regular commenters have seemed to miss the the fact that our recruitment was suffered so much through Boosh’s Irregal War of Oil!!! and Halliburton, that MacBeth is the new poster child of the army; he is a 120lb when-soaking-wet pencil-dicked Cheney-Bush-Kultist who has woken up from the Rovian Gaytrix and can’t find a job so he is forced to go through 6 months of intense combat training because he is somewhat brownish.
There. Everything is explain-ed.
Hell’s Bells – that was a terrible job of trying to impersonate a Ranger. Cripes, give me 5 minutes and I could come up with something far better than that.
TODD – I am not sure that guy could even pass the latte test.
“R is for Ranger, A is for always ready, N is for Knowledge – heh heh…”
Sign seen on a Columbus, GA lawn – “No Dogs, No Rangers”.
But I kid, surely. Enough of the “OCF” (Other Coalition Forces) where I was were US Army Rangers. I think they might be a bit peeved when they find out about this latest attempt to smear their name.
Micah Wright anyone?
how did i know you could do that?
I’m both Ranger and SF qualified, so I’m an informed consumer. Not a chance in Hell this weasel spent a day in Regiment unless it was as a support troop. And even then. Please.
The hard Left hasn’t found the bottom yet, but it keeps digging.
It figures that you wingnuts would jump on a veteran like Colonel MacBeth for speaking truthiness to power. The dude was a Ranger. He saw shit in Jellystone that you chickenhawks just wouldn’t understand!
Thanx Verc.
I was SOOOOOO confused.
Didn’t we already visit this kind of horse-crap? Maybe my memory is failing me, but I seem to remember a story that circulated in Ilinois several months back regarding a faked daughter who had lost her father fighting in Iraq…
Anyone else remember that? MJ?
Hey! Hey! Boo Boo is that you?
Come on, y’all. Telling lies for the greater good is just fine. I once told a girl she was good-looking just so I could get in her pants.
She really was pretty ugly. Joke’s on her.
I wanna be an Ersatz Ranger
I wanna fake a life of danger
Damn, another thread closing winner comes on early…
What Blackfive shows is supposed to be an official photo…..and that would never pass muster. The sleeves alone tell me that.
Yeah, this stinks like an unwashed Ted Kennedy following a three day bender with a case of cheap gin.
That’s the anti-war left for you, why face the truth when you can lie?
Doing a Clusty search of this guy, he only pops up on a couple dopey socialist sites.
By the righty reaction to this bozo, you’d think that either DailyKos or Atrios or the like has been trumpeting him as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
But they’re not.
Are you sure he’s not actually a right wing plant, meant to discredit The Left (trademark pending)?
What we are all breathlessly waiting for is the “Fake but accurate” follow up.
Sure, Jesse is not a Ranger and maybe he personally didn’t do those bad things. But he knows that they happened and most of the guys in Iraq agree with him about Bush, etc.
After all, the story has to get out somehow.
Must have been all of those IED rigged pic-a-nic baskets…
“It’ll be another Vietnam” is a threat, not a prediction.
TW: I doubt this guy served in Iraq.
There must be thousands of disillusioned and disgruntled young ex-soldiers with perfectly true stories that public incomprehension of military tactics and traditions make it easy to spin as atrocities, war crimes, whatever, and that these guys would willingly tell under any banner that welcomes them, sprinkling in a little “Zionist” this and “neocon” that as requested. Thousands.
Why, instead, are we given only easily discredited liars?
(Don’t answer that.)
He said that they killed worshipers in a mosque. Men, women and children together in a mosque? I thought women and children weren’t allowed to pray with the men. If I’m correct, this is another huge hole in his story.
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
Shingles, he’s starting small, just like Benedict Kerry did. Remember, the “white phosphorous is a chemical weapon” crap started small, too. Debunk it early and hopefully it never gains momentum.
The fake “my Daddy got killed in Iraq” story of little Kodee Kennings is summarized here.
Kodee, Micah, Jessie…
Well, somebody has to do it:
Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.—William Shakespeare
I had a long post with this, a too clever by half self referential comment and grammatical criticism regarding the comment instructions and a Turing Word of “you,” and Team America references scattered throughout, but either it was eaten by the ether or perhaps the wierd sisters reach extends beyond the fevered imagination of a seventeenth century playwright.
Turing Word: must, as in, needs must when the devil vomits in your kettle. Just ask Mr. E. Blackkadder, a noted contemporary of Mr. Shakespeare.
Derek – correct. Strict segregation in mosques is generally the rule. Maybe Muslihoon can fill us in more exactly.
I thought only “60 Minutes†had this level of credibility.
No doubt that Jessie served in Iraq, as evidenced by the eyebrows. Only a near-fatal dose of depleted uranium can produce those.
I guess I was only sort of half right.
“Gender separation
Mosques around the world deal with gender separation in various ways.
Women’s section at a mosque in Munich, GermanyOne notable restriction common among nearly every mosque is that against women leading prayer. Although some hadith state that women are allowed to lead prayer in front of all-female congregations, mosques almost always have more men than women present during prayer. Recently, in China, women have been allowed to lead prayer in front of all-female congregations.[60] When it comes to leading prayer in front of mixed-gender congregations, Islam clearly states that only men are allowed to lead prayer. However, there have been a few women, most notably Amina Wadud, who have defied the ruling and have opted to lead mixed-gender prayers and Friday prayers.[61]
Islamic law has no rule asserting that men and women must be separated by a partition in the prayer hall. Ideally, the men are to occupy the lines in front of the women.[62] Nevertheless, many mosques today will put the women behind a barrier or partition or in another room altogether so they are unable to see the imam. The basis of the gender separation within the prayer hall is to help congregants concentrate on worshipping Allah. Mosques in South and Southeast Asia put men and women in separate rooms, as the divisions were built into them centuries ago. American and European mosques do not normally have these divisions built in as they are more often buildings converted from other purposes. The large crowds present at the Masjid al-Haram in Mecca, especially during the annual pilgrimage, often result in unintended mixing between genders.[63] Nevertheless, there are still mosque officials who attempt to enforce the division in some areas.
The same restrictions present in the prayer hall also extend to social events. Men and women at dinners and religious events will often be separated to comply with the Islamic principles that reduce intermingling of the sexes.”
Oh well.
Dude, this guy rocks. I just downloaded the video. He so rocks!
Dude, I want him as my rackmate, in my fighting hole, and as my Dash One, baby. He is the RoXoR!!!
Ode to The Left (Revised)
I’ll hide behind wealth
I revile you for earning
I’ll “Support the Troopsâ€Â
I’d rather be spurning
I’ll hide behind this flag
I’d rather be burning
I’ll lie and spew bile
‘til your stomach is turning
I’ll do most anything
To keep the revolution churning
– Didn’t we already cover this way back with the “tickle me Elmo/GI Joe” Photo-Op?
TW: Does shifting to living puppets constitute ”progress”, or since everyone can fisk this almost immediately, would it still be an example of leftard perfidity? Dean needs to know quick before He goes on camera….
Hey! “Ranger” MacBeth,
In case you stop by here.
Someone you should know.
Listen to 1:14 – 6:30.
Play 5:16 – 5:25 over and again. Compare and contrast this with your:
You needle-dicked Bass – ackward beret-wearing motherfucker.
It’s spelled revulsion.
God bless the Corps. They don’t make Mark 9 Acerbic Tongues like that anywhere else.
Stephen M.
Well done….
Jeff,
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Hope that clears everything up for you.
Cheers,
Jeff
The Left has credibility regarding military matters?
When did that happen?
Send that to the Kuwaiti Ministry of State. Or maybe the Ministry of the Interior. Oh, hell, just send it to the Kuwaiti Times, with this idiot’s home address and that silly Gawd-aren’t-I-a-cute-Ranger photo. Because this is a major insult to the Kuwaitis.
And then we’ll just how buff this jerk is.
Our wannabe Army Ranger works at Wendys in the Seattle-Tacoma area:
http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261
TRJS: I think that “quote” was as made up as Jesse’s stories.
You want Arbeit Macht Frei with that?
Just saw “Black Hawk Down” again last night, with a bunch of DVD extras such as interviews with the stars. What was amazing was that half of the actors were British or Australian, but they were about a million times more convincing as Rangers than this little dude is.
MacBeth needed a bigger budget. Or a director as detail oriented as Ridley Scott.
GIB: You can drop it now, Jessie. The game is over. Your career as an ex-Ranger is too well documented.
Jessie: No, I work at Wendy’s. That’s all! I swear I’m no Ranger. Everything I said was a lie… you have to believe me. I’m actually a complete coward. If I ever even saw a gun I’d…
(Harry whips his pistol out in one liquid motion and snaps the muzzle right in front of Jessie’s eyes.)
Jessie: Aahhh! Don’t kill me. I’m not a Ranger. I’m nothing. I’m navel lint. I have to lie to
women to get laid. I don’t score much and I’ve got a tiny dick… It’s pathetic.
(he looks down)
Jessie: SEE… would a Ranger pee himself?!
Jesse: No no! You have it all wrong! I’m gonna be one of the leaders of the revolution.
(See his interview for context).
Still LMAO! ROTFLMAO!
The sad part is reading the favorable comments from the college pukes at the youtube website. They positively yearn to believe this shit.
But they support the troops.
Furrod, thanks for the “True Lies” quotes. Most excellent.
word: clearly “Clearly, this guy is no Ranger.”
I just sent an email to Neil Prakash (Armor Geddon). He is a 2003 graduate of Army Ranger School. He actually was in Fallujah (Nov. 2004).
I asked him to not let Jesse MacBeth “Rat-Fuck” our Rangers!
I hope it might bring him out of his blogging retirement.
I am asking everyone who is REALLY pissed about this BS to sound-off to Neil at neil.prakash@gmail.com
I’m praying to God that Neil doesn’t track me down and kick the shit out of me for doing this but, hey… What would you do?
If you know any Army Rangers (past and present). Get ahold of them and ask them to chime in…
PLEASE!!!
How come everyone is so pissed off… the guy is way funnier than Colbert was
Fake but Accurate, you jack booted thug!
Now there’s revolution, but they don’t know what they’re fighting.
He is clearly talking about the fast food revolution, of course.
Hmmm.
True story:
I was in a USMC infantry company when a new senior NCO cycled in from Fleet. The story was this guy was last posted in a Recon company and might have even been in Force Recon. Everybody expected a hard-ass guy, tough as nails.
The very first morning PT this guy did was with my unit. July. Hot and muggy. 92 degrees. Running 3 piddly miles in green t-shirts, boots and camo trousers.
He last all of about 200 fucking **yards**! Even the unit shit-birds weren’t even breaking a sweat.
The Recon? The possible Force Recon? The guy was in charge of the HQ for a Recon unit. He was a REMF through and through.
Me I was straight grunt. Trained in anti-tank & assault demolitions. Carried a M-16 and a M-60. But I never claimed to be fucking Recon or any such shit.
Far too many people trying to get cred where they don’t deserve it. IMHO that’s this MacBeth jackhole.
“More like ‘Operation Iraqi Hamburger’”
When did David Spade go to Ranger school?
What is most funny is the blatent evidence shown in the first few seconds of video. Not only is his picture unlike any military picture I’ve ever seen, but his uniform is all wrong. He’s got patchs on wrong, missing patches he should have, his hat is on wrong and his sleeves are rolled like a Marine. There is just so much wrong with this it make my head explode.
with all this talk about hamburgers and fast food…man I hate diets.
Drinking iced green tea unsweetened- might as well crack open a AA battery and suck out the insides.
And just across the street, a Dunkin’ Donuts calls my name. And down the street…another one. And at the eL stop near my apartment, another. And in one of my closets…
Out damn doughnut! out!
ed,
Me. Charlie Company, 3rd Recon Battallion, RVN, Swift, Silent and Deadly.
ARRRRRRHOOOOOOO!!!!!
Everyone around me is a total stranger
Everyone avoids me like a cyclone ranger
Everyone…
That’s why I’m turning Japanese
I think I’m turning Japanese
I really think so
Free Ranger Tabs in Every Kid’s Meal
I’m still a little puzzled by the fact that some reports actually show him a member of the United States Army, while others say that he was not.
If he is, this type of behavior is a clear violation of the UCMJ, and even if he is a Reservist or a member of the Washington National Guard should be held accountable for his actions.
If he’s not, couldn’t a criminal (or civil) case be made against him, in much the same way that cases are made against those who impersonate police officers?
I think when he said “leader of the revolution” he meant “walk point and take the first shot.”
“Dude, I’d love to be at the Seattle HarmoniCommunist Revolutionary Committee meeting, but my Crypto-Fascist manager at Wendys won’t let me have the day off, and my Fascist Absentee Landlord says my roommates and I will be kicked out if we’re late on rent again. Did I mention that I was a Ranger?”
Jeff, while I enjoy the horrors of Something Awful as much as the next jerk-wad…I don’t think I’d use it as a barometer of anyone’s political beliefs. I mean, their photoshop phridays have just gotten more and more…meh.
Doesn’t Thomas Lipscomb or that author of “Stolen Valor” investigate cases like this?
rls and belly of buddah-this gentleman is famous for investigating military fakes. It is a federal crime to pretend to have awards that you do not in fact have.
LGF states that the owner of the website that posted the original video at ‘peacefilms.org’ or whatever the hell it was, goes by the name of Terry Portinga. I think I’ll need to do a little searching around on him, as well, and see if I come across anything interesting.
Given the fact that he was involved in ‘Iraq Veterans Against the War’ and no one apparently spotted him as a phony, this raises some questions about other members of this group, methinks.
Interestingly, there is a Terry Portinga listed here:
http://www.fvtv.org/schedules/032705.htm
He apparently produces a lot of programs for Public TV in Washington State.
Awww…he even posts his phone number 360-253-3476. How sweet of him.
Dude, I’m about to fire up Final Fantasy VII and a Chimichanga. How’d you know?
My son, Matt the Marine is home on leave.
He said that’s a baaaaaad sleeve roll.
Another site that mentions Terry Portinga as a producer of activist videos:
http://peppersprayproductions.org/TheLeader.htm
Oops, I gotta stop blogging during boring phone conferences………
“Jesse Macbeth”?
Dude, that’s El DeBarge.
Let the Swift Boating begin!!!
Wha wha wha wha wha wha what are y y y y y y y y you gu gu gu gu gu gu gu gu gu guys tal tal tal tal tal talking abo abo abo about? I I I I I I I I I’m a ra ra ra ra ra ranger I swe swe swe swe swe swear. I I I I I I I I I I I I I ma ma ma ma make things go bo bo bo bo bo bo bo boom an an an an an an an an an ki ki ki ki ki ki kill ino inno innocent ir ir ir ir iraqi’s. Bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bush sucks!
TW: Bus as in Jesse took the short bus to school.
Dude, WTF, Big E?
http://www.peacefilms.org/ in the 1st comment Terry Portinga
says:
I think they’ve found their new Cindy Sheehan and they won’t let a little thing like lack of credibility stand in their way. Where is Cindy now anyway?
WTF what, Verc?
Swift Boating?
Ummmmmm, if the guy is a fake, it’ll be verifiable.
He’ll try to hide as such a super secret mission guy that all traces of him have been erased… or the left can all scream “Valerie Plame” and “Swift boating” in unison.. then click their heels and fly back to someplace where nonsense becomes fact… home for them I guess.
Hey, how come some accounts say he has shrapnel wounds, but he says he got wounded when he was stabbed multiple times (maybe his multiple personalities each only got stabbed once… it is hard to keep track)?
Maybe he got his shrapnel wound in that coffee house he got tossed out of…. (sounds like a thoroughly dangerous man).
Those stories are almost always bogus too… like anyone gets kicked out of a coffee house for just having a cup of coffee.
My guess? He was in the military and they discovered he is mentally ill and sent him home where now he can make a living tendering his delusions to the gullible left.
In the coffee house story the date is April 2004 and he is noted as 20 years old. He claims to have spent 16 months in Iraq.
Problem 1. How could he be in Iraq before the war even started?
Answer… super secret mission!!!
Problem 2. (this one is possible I guess)
He’s 20 in April 2004 and lets say his birthday is May 1 and he turns 21 on that day.
He says he spent 16 months in Iraq and lets say he got back the very day of the coffee house injustice.
So in January, 2003 he was at best 19 1/2. But he could also be 18 1/2. Isn’t enlistment age 18? How long does it take qualify as Special Forces after enlisting these days? I mean doesn’t learning all that Special stuff take time?
Answer… superman on supersecret mission now speaking truth to power!!!
So what he is saying is that if this tool is shown to be a liar, but they still think they can get some mileage out of him they will just disregard the lie and publish a “do over”.
I guess it would be asking too much to assume that once the first lie was proven everything else that falls out of his face should be looked at askance.
D-did I stu-stu-stutter, mutha… /channeling Samuel Jackson…
WTF with that monstrosity of letters you call a paragraph and I call an excuse to down a shot of rum, a tyenol-3, a Rogaine horse-pill and slather myself in Aqua Velva…and peanut butter, but that should be assumed by now.
I can see it all now. Jesse at his presser:
I’m not really a Ranger but that doesn’t mean what I say isn’t true. (Fake but accurate)
I didn’t kill any one personally but that doesn’t mean what I didn’t see it done.
I didn’t really see it happen but I heard about it.
Some one told me about it and there were all those Iraqi civilians killed, so it must be true.
Look at all the douchebags on Portinga’s site who still believe this guy is credible. Amazing.
Portinga’s number is listed up above if you want to give him a call. His website confirms that he is a videomaker in the Vancouver, Washington area, so there is no question we are dealing with the right guy.
The only question now is which Wendy’s in Western Washington MacBeth works at. LOL.
Verc, Tha tha tha…just kidding. I guess I was just trying to share the intense migraine I got from watching that video with everybody else (albeit in a very passive/aggressive way). My other choice for a comment went something like this:
Jesse Macbeth
The Porky Pig of the anti-war movement…
“Di-bi-da That’s All Fellow Travelers”
OBTW-Personally I don’t need excuses to abuse myself with alchohol and animal tranquilizers but I am glad to help.
In the longer original Pepperspray version of the interview, Macbeth says he shot innocent Iraqis. If what he is saying is true then I have been wrong to support the war so long. It has made our American troops into monsters. On the other hand if Jessie Macbeth can be shown to be lying, his falsehoods should be used to brand the whole anti-war movement as anti-American. Because they have deliberately made a propaganda film to harm America. If Jessie Macbeth is lying then the creators of this film, camera: Lambert Rochfort, editor: Randy Rowland, and producer: Kay Powers, have deliberately sided with the Jihadis and against America.
Between you and me, Big E, and all of posterity including our ascending Robot Overlords (May Peace Be Upon Them) perusing the archives in 2083 for their third grade dissertations; I have not yet begun to defile myself, tonight at least.
Did anyone see that HBO special on Baghdad medics last night? Man that was a sorry presentation, they are trying so hard to make things look miserable, but it didn’t work. Yes, the doctors made all the right quotes, selectively edited with careful camera work, but the setting was this ultra-modern looking hospital with incredibly good care, hard working doctors, and people being flown to Germany and Johns Hopkins institute for more medical work.
Given that in terms of deaths per 100,000 Iraq ranks somewhere below Jamaica, their efforts to make it look like a M*A*S*H-style hell hole were a bit weak.
Shouldn’t this guy be tried for war crimes?
I’m sure 10 or 20 years in Levenworth would enhance his credibility/
Don’t they usually wear Class A’s for official portraits, not BDUs?
Does anybody here have access to an auto dealership or something like that?
We need a credit check on this guy. Badly.
Regards,
Ric
It always seems like that, right up until you run out of 10w30 motor oil and ketamine or your brand new Jessica Alba blow up doll springs a leak.
Ric you just know what you’re going to find at the end of this rainbow. A pot maybe, but it would be filled with gold.
This dude may have been in the Army at some point, but he sure as hell has never been a Ranger. My brother was one back in the day, and Macbeth-boy best hope the two of them never meet up.
TW=passed. I’ve passed gas that was more squared away than this bozo!
I wanna be a Chairborne Ranger,
Who needs a life of fun and danger?
I want to see the little fart’s DD214.
CHARLIE DON’T SUPERSIZE.
I would love to see a photoshop job of McBeth as the “Wendy’s Warrior.”