So. I’m holding this fundraiser in order to afford the maintainence of this site while raising enough money for a down payment to move us into a bigger house by year’s end (we live in a rented duplex at the moment)—when what happens? My landlord knocks on the door, tells me he’s lost his job, and that he’s going to have to sell the property.
Which, given the obscene prices for Denver real estate, I can hardly say I blame him.
Still, this leaves us in quite a bind. Which got me to thinking: I wonder if Atrios and the rest of his progressive brethren (including such august champions of righteousness as Michael Berube, who recently shed his tweedy classroom demeanor to call me a “supercilious, ignorant, self-satisfied wanker”) will step up and help save this poor young family from ending up on the streets. After all, isn’t that what “progressives” do?
I mean, who knows. Maybe they can convince Jimmy Carter to build us a fucking house or something.
Call me!
Via the wonderful power of the ballot box.
Hey, I find out that I’ll be on the street soon, and Actus has a smart-assed remark. Who would thunk it?
Certainly not me. No. Not me.
Well, he’s got to do something to occupy his time while not updating his blog.
But Jeez, that blows. That’s Denver for you, seriously. You need to pack up the clan and move to Phoenix, where the housing is about half what it is in Colorado, and our NBA team is still in the playoffs.
I’m off to donate now.
Ah, actus, a prime example of the caring, loving, and understanding segment of the American population known as “progressives”, who wish to rule the country and make sure everyone is taken care of. I can’t help but be impressed by the next generation of leaders being raised by the “progressives”.
Jeff—bummer, man. Use that cash I sent you for whatever you need. Don’t feel obligated to spend it on bandwidth.
TW: It’s in a good cause.
Jeff
This may have been asked before but does Actus sit at his computer 24/7 waiting for you to post. He seems to be always one of the first commenters.
I have this image of Actus being Gollum like rubbing his hands together, “My precious has posted must reply.”
I’ll do what I can. However, my paypal account has been “compromised”–whatever that means. Let me know how to send something by mail.
Hey Jeff, did he give you a time frame?
I’d check your lease brotha. I’m not sure if a landlord can evict w/o cause (cause being you violating the conditions of your lease) or w/o giving you notice (sometimes it can be up to 120 days, but most times it’s sixty).
I’m not suggesting a court battle or anything, just peep your wording and see if you’ve got any course of action to buy yourself time.
“Progressives” only implement such programs in order to buy votes. Since you aren’t giving your vote to them, to them you might as well be dead.
Or better yet, alive and paying your damned taxes.
And the others are correct—in general, an owner buys the house subject to the terms of any lease that is in effect at the time.
Your leasehold interest is an interest in the property. They can’t just cancel that interest by merely selling the property.
This could be wrong if (a) Colorado law changes the common law rule, which is unlikely, or (b) the lease agreement allows the owner to terminate the lease upon sale, or notice.
Otherwise, if you have the right under the lease to occupy the place until a specific date, then that right would apply to a new owner, too.
In my experience, buyers of rental property consider the fact that a place is rented to be a plus. They WANT it to be rented, and they want it rented long-term.
If your current landlord likes you, then you may want to suggest to him that you and he execute a new lease now, before the sale, one that gives you the right to occupy the place for a specific amount of time, that fixes the rent, and can’t be terminated on sale.
Bummer Jeff.
I think the folks above are correct however, your landlord has to give you a reasonable time to relocate (usually 120 days)if you haven’t broken the terms of the lease. And if he sells it to someone who wants to keep it rented, you may not have to move at all.
Unless you want to.
Which you already said you did.
So there’s that.
BECAUSE OF THE LEASE LAWS!!!!
Thanks for the heads-up, Jeff.
I was just crossing the tees on my latest business venture, an Uninhabited Mansions of the American Left cross-country summer bus tour.
I know, the big business is in Europe; the plan is to see those next year if I can raise enough capital on this trial run. If I could afford that out of pocket, I’d be ideology-bound to pretend the places don’t exist. What a bind!
Anyhooâ€â€
Let me know which palace gets donated to you and your family before I finalize the route, and I’ll slip you a few bucks for saving me the embarrassment of a late cancellation.
(You’ll need a cash influx to maintain the
slavesmelanin-rich undocumented workers that come with the place anyway.)Hey, looks like Atrios is offering to put you in a big house.
Oh wait, I’m sorry, that’s THE Big House. Nevermind.
Oh wait, you noticed that already. Double nevermind.
TW: I should probably just go back to lurking.
By the way, I wish to be on record as stating that Atrios is…
ahem…
A big poopy head.
OPEN THREAD!!!
Through the power of the ballotbox, actus and the progressives seek to increase taxes to provide the latest in a long line of Republican “worst-President-evers” with the necessary funding to impose their bloody brand of theocratic fascism.
Yeah, somehow I find some vacuous thinking in those coterminous chants of “Bushitler=terrorist” and “Let’s raise taxes and nationalize everything.”
I guess the only hope is to get some member of the reality-based community in a position to uphold the Constitution for life.
I’m on the “That blows” bandwagon here.
However, what Phinn said was right. Most home buyers like the idea of buying a house where the return on thier investment is more immediate. Especially, if you have a good record as a tenet, it can be seen as a major selling point.
If that doesn’t work, move to Texas. The armadillio wants to come here anyway because the lack of state income tax and the ease with which one can get Lone Star Beer, the official drink of armadillos.
Isn’t Michael Berube supposed to be an intellectual of some sort? If so, shouldn’t he avoid gross redundancies like calling someone “self-satisfied” and “wanker”? Self-satisfaction and wanking are just different names for the same act (Latin actus), so he should have omitted one or the other.
No, they can’t just evict you, unless there’s something specific written into your lease. Maybe not even then. Details written, posted, and the blog ate it.
I’ve got family in Centennial and thereabouts; want me to ask around if they know anyone that’s renting?
Move to Greely, young man!
All kidding aside, that sucks.
I give’d ya some moneys, as the Nigerians say. Don’t spend it all in one place, huh?
SB: ill
wind
That whole civil rights thing seems to have worked out so well.
Somewhere along the line consumer protection came to the rental housing market. Jeff’s locality probably will have some sort of a legal services or landlord-tenant hotline that can basically answer his questions.
It will likely be staffed by progressives. Like the movements that delivered whatever tenant protection laws your locality has.
Hey guys—was doing the radio show.
Landlord said July. I’m trying to push for September.
Well, if you can hold on till November, the Atriite Red Guards will probably put you up on the chopping block…Problem solved buddy!
You had better start teaching the Armadillo how to use the CAPSLOCK key and the fine points of systematic racism in Amerikkkan society. Give him a drum of Boone’s farm, plaid suicide vest with 35 lbs. of Semtex and gummie bear (of death) sharpnel, an M2 with AP/I to-virgin-express rounds, and, ummm, a drum of Boone’s farm, better make that two, to cover your ass.
Low-crawl over to DC, and you can live with Actus in his parent’s basement. He can teach the Spawn of Jeff all about hot-gay-Prince-on-Prince action.
Oh, and actus? Howsabout pitching in to the fundraising cause? You burn enough of my bandwidth, don’t you think?
Oh, come on, Jeff. You should know by now that progressives just spend other people’s money, never their own.
Maybe he can go out and pick someone’s pocket.
If you’re having a problem with money, maybe you should’ve invested it more carefully.
I can sympathize and empathize. For the last four+ years, I’ve worked at “Filacy’s” (aka Filene’s, soon to be called Macy’s). In March we were informed that our department wouldn’t survive the merger and my last day was April 15.
I took a much needed vacation – I hadn’t taken one in over a year – and the moment I returned my landlord showed up and told me that my half of the duplex I’d spent the last ten years in had been sold and I had sixty days to vacate. I didn’t even know he had it up for sale.
So now I’m jobless and homeless.
I’ve taken the liberty of sending you a brochure entitled “Ohio: The Jew Friendly State”. Catchy, no?
I’ve also enclosed the latest Dow/Jonestein report which charts the fluctuation of Jewish populations in the state. With some basic triangular extrapolation, we should be able to predict when the D/J will fall below “Jew Saturation”. At that time I’ll wire you postage for the boy. He’ll establish himself as a Buckeye and that might strengthen our case for bringing the rest of the family.
Hope this helps!
I’ll give you my house. Right up next to the mountains, surrounded by parks, brand new golf course going in, nice family-friendly community where the kids can actually play in the traffic without getting killed.
You give me a quarter-million dollars.
Deal?
Dude, my last comment was totally insensitive.
All I have to say is – actus told me to do it.
So, okay:
1. You think it’s a great idea to snark about how nasty and hypocritical progressives are as a way of motivating them to give you their charitable dollars.
2. If most of them are unimpressed by this behavior and choose not to do so, you plan on snarking at them for betraying a creed that you profess to believe is inherently evil anyway.
Classy indeed, and a great fundraising strategy. Way to rise to the occasion with stupid, passive-aggressive rhetorical games. I think you just went right to the bottom of my charitable giving priority list.
You mean forced integration? It worked out well for professional agitators! And employment lawyers. And expanded federal control at the expense of local control. And further undermined the right to free association. And economic liberty. But those were all on the Leftist agenda anyway.
[insert mindless-yet-hysterical accusation of racism here]
Actually, the leasehold rights I was referring to originated in English common law around 8 or 9 hundred years ago.
As for the mouth-breathers that are staffing the government-subsidized hotline, you can bet that they have every economic incentinve not to know the first fucking thing they are talking about and every incentive to do as little work as possible and accomplish little or nothing. Such is the nature of EVERY GOVERNMENT PROGRAM EVER INVENTED.
If he wants reliable assistance, he should turn to a private attorney, where the economic conditions are such that he will want to know as much as possible and be as effective as possible. Such is the nature of private, voluntary exchange.
But your 100% unhelpful offer almost makes up for the tasteless, boorish comment you started this thread with. You’re one class act! Get it? Keep it up, class-actus!
Hey! Maybe I’m not the most insensitive. Thanks Doc!
You deserve whatever fate the free market has decided to bestow upon you. You should be more grateful, you ingrate.
Now that just hurts, Dr Slack. Though the whole “I was going to give until you made compelled me not to with your ‘snark’” routine? I have my doubts.
Tell me. When you give to a homeless guy, do you insist he change his filthy undies first?
Incidentally, I see that tbogg has linked me yet again. Something about the Bush economy.
The thing is, money isn’t really the problem so much as timing. My landlord lost his job for getting into a fight with his bosses. And we, thinking we’d be here until the end of the year, decided to pay off both cars, the credit cards, etc., so that we’d get the best possible interest rate. Also, we think the housing prices in the areas we’re looking will fall by this winter.
So it’s more of an inconvenience, because now we don’t have the down payment money available, having used it to purchase our cars.
tbogg seems to take a perverse pleasure in this, but then, he seems to take a perverse pleasure in criticizing anything that doesn’t have to do with setting up cash registers or buying ladies panties in bulk.
Though don’t be fooled. As he was careful to point out on Friday, he could have been, like, a totally kick-ass academic had he not dropped out of school to become a roofer, and eventually a guy who develops checkout lane strategies.
But no matter. Because he still reads books. Lots of them.
They are his passion!
So you see, tbogg is a professor of life, man. He has been in the shit, and he’s come out alive.
Brave li’l trooper.
I get too much abuse. Plus I prefer the anonymity.
Lastly, i have about zero income and negative net worth, so can’t really do it.
Darkness is spreading!!!
But in general I was talking about how the progressives lost the South when they turned to civil rights. You know, cuz they do progressive things to get votes.
And I’m not limiting myself to those.
I sucessfully used the resources and expertise of my local landlord-tenant hotline in a pro se case. It probably wouldn’t have paid for the lawyer’s time to argue it. But sure ‘nuff, justice belongs to those that can afford it. Thankfully my locality subsidized one of those so that I could.
Ready for the social safety net, are ya?
I’d be happy to contribute a small sum, provided that you supply me with evidence of your continuing efforts to find gainful employment.
That certainly wasn’t very civil of Mr. Berube. Most likely he used the term “wanker” only because he mentioned you in a sentence with the columnist Richard Cohen. I understand that under ordinary circumstances he refers to you by your more formal title, member of the radical right.
But thank you for asking him and Mr. Atrios to get in touch with me about building you a house. As you know, progressives often band together to help out people who hate them. We’re kind of stupid that way, I guess.
Uh, I didn’t lose my job. My landlord did. And he’s selling his property.
Not only are you people mired in hate, but you’re too stupid even to hate accurately.
Actus, I have not read any of the comments in this thread other than your first. However, the fact that your snark shows up first in roughly 75% of these threads speaks volumes about your life or lack thereof.
I am not a fan of adhom’s but for the love of god…
Oh, and actus? Howsabout pitching in to the fundraising cause? You burn enough of my bandwidth, don’t you think?
Say, have you thought about making this site available to paying subscribers only? That could be the perfect free market solution to your problems. Plus you’d no longer be subsidizing people like actus and me!
There’s a shocker.
In general you shouldn’t give money to homeless people. Give to shelters or other services. That’s just one of those things we learn in the big city. But maybe its different out there.
……and if you happen upon an old lady who’s having a massive infarction, be sure to squirt some antibacterial soap in her mouth before performing CPR. Various flus and germs and what have you……
Tell me. When you give to a homeless guy, do you insist he change his filthy undies first?
Your personal hygeine isn’t my concern, Jeff. But if you’re planning on a career as a panner, I might indeed suggest you don’t start off by insulting passersby as part of your pitch, and promising them further insults for their trouble if they kick down. Not bright.
You’re right. Carny clown it is.
alpuccino sez:
Shouldn’t you just call someone? The gubmint is supposed to take care of stuff like old ladies, no?
Well, as a lefty-socialist traitor, I do have to support those in need, regardless of ideology or ‘deservingness’, since we all deserve basic human dignity. SO, I’ll donate. But, in the spirit of right-wingitude, may I suggest you take the opportunity to better yourself in the process? Our military is critically short on soldiers, particularly junior officers, and particularly in the combat sector. You might provide for your family in that manner, while also serving your country and demonstrating your support for the GWOT. There are many blogs written by soldiers, and I’m sure officers get more access to the internet than your average grunt. Just a thought.
O’LADIES!!! SOILENT GREEN IS O’LADIES!!!!
Ah!. The perils of making your life public.
I thought you were talking about vagrants, not environmental activists and NYT journalists.
If only! “Donate” all you want, by all means, but where do then you get the right to force other people to pay up? I guess my “basic human dignity” ends when you want what I’ve earned.
oh!oh!
And end everything with “God Bless”.
That’s in Dr. Slack’s Panhandling for Dummies, chapter 3: The Package. He says that it churches up any alms-wrenching strategy.
Let’s try it – “Fuck you, God Bless”
Wow! It does work. I feel insulted and at peace all at once. Thanks Doc!
Blow it out y’er ass Doctor; some of us come here for the abuse, free abuse at that:
It’s like love but w/o the obligations.
I hearing living on Colfax is nice this time of year…
Hard cheese, of course, but speaking as a landlord myself I must observe that (absent a lease stating otherwise) your LL’s property rights trump any claim you as a tenant may have on his duplex once the thirty days’ clock has run. I don’t have any sympathy for whining renters (not that you’re whining–I see that you understand his motivation to sell): I’m in this business to make the best return I can on my investments, not to subsidize people who didn’t get the memo. Sorry, and I hope you have a soft landing, but if you make your living doing this you absolutely cannot get sentimental about your tenants.
but Padraig, then who will care for his son? huh!? or are you so “progressive” that you beleive the woman should stay home and care for offspring? sure, put her back in the kitchen where she belongs…
BECAUSE OF THE HIPOCRISY!!!!!
Just added to the list of things not to do before I die:
17. Rent from a dentist
Hmm, maybe you can get a good deal from the landlord and buy the duplex; the people on the other side will pay half your mortgage, then if you still want to move, the people that rent your current side will pay the other half…
I seem to recall that Patterico has a house he needs to
unloadsell.Jeez.
Try and help a brothuh out….
And the ladies gig? That was a job ago. You understand: a job? Jobs?
Why do I bother….
[Right. You do “POS” work now for a retail chain. Meaning you dropped out of college so that you can call people academic failures in between testing out the most efficient and ergonomic way to position the cash registers. Why do I bother is the real question…]
Because you’re a masochist? Because you’re dying for attention?
A better question is; “Doesn’t ‘tbogg’ seem waaaay too close to ‘teabag’ for comfort?
Edgy stuff, dude. Way edgy.
tw: Heavy.
Yeah, that too.
Darn, I’m a little tight right now, sorry I can’t spare a buck. I’m busy investing in Gold for the coming dollar meltdown.
But I hate to see a fellow conservative groveling for loose change…it’s unseemly and, frankly, a betrayal of our judeo-christian/Republican belief system. You should not be burdening your fellow conservatives with your financial plight.
That said, I’ve been thinking of constructive suggestions that you might consider:
(1) Check with the RNC Blog Outreach Center. I know they have a program to fund people, like yourself, who’ll be willing to provide written support and cover for the policies of this administration. Contact Ken Mehlman for details. They also have a pay-for-post plan to liberal/progressive blogs, but I’ve heard that’s being outsourced to India.
(2) Start a company and offer bogus services to the DHS, Pentagon, or White House. It’s really a growth industry. Downside is you going to have to ante up Pioneer-level contributions to play.
(3) Contact the Minutemen and see if they have any openings for protecting the City of Denver border. It’s close to home and you’d be helping to protect this great country from the 3% of the population that threaten to take our jobs cleaning toilets and flipping burgers.
(4) Finally, if you’re really strapped financially, go to wwww.goarmy.com and enlist to fight the GWOT in Iraq. If you want to make a real killing, sign on with Blackwater. You’d have great stories to tell us when (and if) you return.
Good luck and keep yer pecker up!
alp: That’s in Dr. Slack’s Panhandling for Dummies, chapter 3
Someone’s read my book! I’m touched.
Jeff: You’re right. Carny clown it is.
Now that’s motivation for me to donate. See? It wasn’t so hard.
There’s some nice houses in South Pasadena California.
About a million each. But you get a nice 1930s-style craftsman….
Poor Doctor Slack (doing his best to give web-doctors a bad name) doesn’t seem to realize that mocking him and unnatural-actus and a few others increases our host’s revenues. They weren’t going to contribute anyway, and as for the rest of us, the more we are amused and instructed, the more we are likely to give.
Great choice on gold, bystander! I hear the ground bones of the children are what make it so precious.
Each one us gives the best way they can.
How about you get off your ass and, oh, I don’t know, get a job?
Screw you, alppuccino. You don’t want to rent from a dentist? I don’t want to rent to you. In my experience the average renter is a whining loser who expects his landlord or the government to take care of him. In a better world, renters wouldn’t be allowed to vote to increase property tax assessments. In a perfect world, frankly, I wouldn’t allow you to vote at all: if you’re not competent enough to own your own home by age 25 you’re probably a left-parasite for life, and as such you don’t have a sufficient stake in society to qualify as a decision-maker.
Let me get this straight, you want us to contribute our hard earned money because you didn’t plan for this happening? What about personal responsibility? I would be happy to contribute from my nice tax refund, tax cuts you know, but I am afraid I would only be rewarding piss poor planning. Perhaps you should just view this as a learning experience and plan for it next time. Have you ever heard of a svings account?
Savings accounts? Sure. Do I have 50K in it when I’d not planned on having that until the end of the year? No.
Plus there’s pre-approval for mortgage, finding the house, having it inspected, etc., packing up to move, etc—all in 60 days rather than 5 months.
Of course, I don’t expect you to understand that. Those are problems that one who lives in his parents’ basement surrounded by Star Trek memorabilia don’t have to worry about.
Adult stuff. Like, you know, how to prosecute a war.
I bet you really hate that god damn constitution don’t you? It all went downhill when women got the vote right?
But I like your theory that renters can’t vote on property taxes. Isn’t the line usually that renters end up paying them too?
Try living in a tent in the desert for months on end, taking a bath in a canteen cup, and the delightful smell of burning shit and diesel fuel. The Army will always give some kind of overhead shelter Jeff, why don’t you see what they can do for you?
[that’s the fourth or fifth “join the army” barb in this thread, Fred. I realize you all are short on material, but come on. Give me something new. Anything after, say, 1975 would work.
I’m pulling for you, man!]
A firm believer in not letting kids prosecute wars, Jeff, but can you prosecute one when you’re homeless?
Depends on what kind of weaponry you’re packing in the refrigerator box, I guess.
Er…
You’re going to bill your renters to cover your pocketbook hits for property tax hikes anyway…
Anyway, Mr. Goldstein, that sucks, but you are a very intelligent human being, and I’m sure you’ll get through it. I am too poor to drop some cash in your tip jar, but I’ll fire a few kind words to the Man Upstairs on your behalf. Most I can do, unfortunately.
Smart thinking Jeff; if you’re in the kitchen making dinner for the bread-winner, keeping an M-243 SAW in the fridge ought to hold off any hungry terrorists.
Though don’t be fooled. As he was careful to point out on Friday, he could have been, like, a totally kick-ass academic had he not dropped out of school to become a roofer, and eventually a guy who develops checkout lane strategies.
Better that than a soon-to-be homeless failed academic with no real job. Maybe next time I’m in Denver I’ll pitch you a quarter.
Thought you people were all about the deconstructing of established gender roles?
At any rate, I make a decent enough living doing what I’m doing, and I get to play with my son every day. No day care. No money spent on day care. Economically speaking, we come out ahead.
As does my kid.
But hey, keep the love coming. Anonymous pricks like you only pretend to stand for things like true gender equality—until you have the opportunity to take your shots, at which point you just can’t help showing your true colors.
I mean, who can blame you for not be willing to put your name to this stuff? Once the feminists find out what a secret misogynistic poseur you are, they’ll stop giving you handjobs after the latest Title IX march.
Are you saying raising a child isn’t a “real job”, Tex?
Now there’s the progressives I know and love.
Jeff, man, don’t you know that you’re supposed to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps? Charity is for whining lefties and those who aren’t good enough to earn over $100k per year.
(It’s true because the Republican Party says so!)
I’m sorry, Jeff. I feel real bad. Maybe if I knew someone in CO I could have him/her ask around. :-(
I must say I do not like how some here have been treating Jeff. Stop being such idiots. The problem is not that Jeff lost his job but that his landlord did. Stop putting the onus on Jeff.
Honestly, it’s almost like some people strain to look for something with which to attack him.
So Frank. Does this mean you won’t be contributing?
Because if so, stop burning my bandwidth. This ain’t no socialist enterprise I’m running here.
(It’s true because the Republican Party says so!)
“Charity is for whining lefties”? Actually, the right has always supported voluntary giving to those in need, and by ‘support’ I mean not only words but deeds, putting their money where their mouths are. The left prefers involuntary ‘giving’ to the government, which takes a big slice for its employees and then hands out the rest without regard to need or whether the programs actually help the recipients. Try to keep up.
Jeff  I want to thank all our progressive friends who stopped by to offer you their support. I’ll do something for them in November.
Oh, and, uh… do off-color photoshop alters of Yeoman Rand count as Star Trek memorabilia? No reason.
Actually, conservatives are very much about giving. Unlike liberals, we believe it should be voluntary and not mandated or from a nanny state. Asking for and accepting financial assistance is quite within conservative values and beliefs. Where we differ from liberals is where this assistance should be asked from and where it should come from: we say it should be private, liberals say it should be public.
I don’t know if it’s because I’m a right-wing fascist Christian Rightist Christianist Zionist infidel, but I very much admire Jeff for being a stay-at-home father.
And, frankly, I hoped even liberals would have some compassion for a person who’s facing unexpected circumstances. If (God forbid) Kos became homeless, no matter how much I despise him, if I could do something to help him, I would.
I must admit that I thought actus’ intial comment on this thread was the zenith of snarky bile. I sure got that wrong.
Jeff, if you ever get diagnosed with an incurable terminal disease, don’t advertise it. Some of these examples of the modern “kind, gentle, and caring progressives” and their whacko right-of-libertarian counterparts would storm your house before you died just so they can claim a hand in your demise.
But it would be for the good of children, you see.
TW: Their mindset is foreign to me. Thank God for that.
Its more plutocratic. A libertarian would realize that the market would transfer some of the tax burden to renters. They might believe in a coase theorem sort of thing.
Wow…
I am speechless.
That Mr. Goldstein airs this tidbit of bad news about his life.
And, we get all these children playing moronic caricature LOL RIGHTIE HATES POOR PEOPLE games.
Kids these days.
Or instead of depending on Atrios, you could get a job.
Or, join up. The enlistment bonuses are pretty high right now.
Weevil, Muslihoon:
Yeah, key word: voluntary.
If it isn’t voluntary, it isn’t a choice. If it isn’t a choice, it isn’t a moral decision.
Voluntary giving means someone made a choice to help another. Both are enriched.
Involuntary charity means a theft has been committed.
In the latter case, the recipient is corrupted (see entitlement syndrome), the “giver” is deprived of property, and the intermediary is corrupted by the expectations inherent to arbitrary power.
Those inured to the involuntary system don’t get the moral distinction because admitting the distinction would be contrary to their interests.
And so on, and so on…
Oh, and since I forgot to say it earlier:
Thanks again, Jeff, for providing this showcase for the compassion of the left.
They got nothin’ but love for ya!
Funny how you feel free to trash progressives and then whine that they don’t help you out when you’re being screwed by this capitalist system you love so much. I notice you’re not asking your “conservative” “libertarian” or “neocons” compadres for help. Could it be that you know you would just the big “screw you” from them?
[You really are tone deaf, aren’t you? You see, I’m not really asking—or expecting—compassionate, caring, progressives to help me out. In fact, I expected nothing more out of them than the vituperation so evident in this thread.
In fact, were this a sting operation meant to unmask the blackness and hypocrisy of your grubby little faux compassionate souls, it couldn’t have gone more swimmingly. No wonder so many of you post under fake names using fake email addresses. You’re backed up with bile, and I think secretly you feel ashamed at what you’ve become.
Don’t worry, though. I wouldn’t put my name to half of what you people write, anyway – ed]
(zen_less is crazy)
This is such an angry thread. Can’t we all just get along?
Cans and bottles can be redeemed for a nickle apiece; why don’t you make it a family affair? Or are you too proud?
I’’ve got some gutters that need cleaning, Beav . . . wanna talk turkey?
[Tell you what. How about you give me money, and I teach you how to read. My landlord lost his job. He is selling the property as a result. Meanwhile, my family—none of whom are out of work—are looking to buy a house. We had planned on doing it in December. So this is a problem with timing, because we had planned on having a certain amount for a down payment. Had we know the property we’re living in was going to be sold, we would have taken money we put elsewhere and put it into the down payment fund.
For what it’s worth, though, I don’t doubt for a second that you have gutters that need cleaning. In fact, I see that as a metaphor for your entire comment. – ed]
Whoa! Dude! I do own my home and acreage. Bought it all by myself.
It was a joke.
You need to loosen those neck bolts a little there, Frankendentist.
Another entry:
18. Get basic dental work from this psycho
But I do like your idea of renters not being able to vote. It would probably eliminate 6 million NYC liberal weenies.
Sure. Do I have 50K in it when I’d not planned on having that until the end of the year? No
Whoa – you have that much money (almost) saved and you’re asking strangers to give you money?
You oughta be ashamed of yourself . . .