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EBT cards not working … [Darleen Click]

…but, really, it has nothing NOTHING to do with the slimdown

People in Ohio, Michigan and several other states found themselves unable to buy groceries with their food stamp debit-style cards on Saturday, after a routine check by vendor Xerox Corp. resulted in a system failure.

Xerox spokeswoman Karen Arena confirmed via email Saturday afternoon that some Electronic Benefits Transfer systems are experiencing temporary connectivity issues. She said technical staff is addressing the issue and expects the system to be restored soon. U.S. Department of Agriculture spokeswoman Courtney Rowe underscored that the outage is not related to the government shutdown. Xerox runs EBT card systems for 17 states and all were affected by the outage.

Ohio’s cash and food assistance card payment systems went down at 11 a.m., said Benjamin Johnson, a spokesman for the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services. Ohio’s cash system has been fixed, however he said that its electronic benefits transfer card system is still down. […]

“That’s a problem. There’s a lot of families who are not going to be able to feed children because the system is being maintenanced,” Colman said. “No one should put maintenance in during the daytime.”

Just a lesson to you all about what happens when The State finally takes over all medical care.

You be nice, or grandma doesn’t get her insulin. Capiche?

103 Replies to “EBT cards not working … [Darleen Click]”

  1. Drumwaster says:

    Any government big enough to give you anything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.

    See also “trial balloon” and “stimulus/response diagnostics”

  2. DarthLevin says:

    Gee, I’m shocked to find shoddy development, lax budgeting, bad capacity planning, and sloppy change management procedures when huge inefficient government bureaucracies use contractors for (ostensibly) important functions!

  3. eCurmudgeon says:

    Xerox spokeswoman Karen Arena confirmed via email Saturday afternoon that some Electronic Benefits Transfer systems are experiencing temporary connectivity issues.

    A trial run for the “big one”?

  4. dicentra says:

    A trial run for the “big one”?

    Prolly unintentionally. Given that the gubmint can’t get 100-yr-old technology to work properly, things breaking down from glitches and incompetence is entirely plausible.

    God works in mysterious ways.

  5. LBascom says:

    We’re just lucky to have domestic incompetence doing the work foreign enemy hackers can’t do…

  6. Drumwaster says:

    Never attribute to malice anything that can be adequately explained by stupidity.
    Never attribute solely to stupidity that which can be more fully explained by stupidity and malice.

  7. RI Red says:

    Don’t worry. It’s only a “glitch”.

  8. BigBangHunter says:

    “No one should put maintenance in during the daytime.”

    – Which implies that you would greatly lesson any harm by doing maintainance late at night, which in turn would be news to all the EBT slackers that buy their bottles at the all-night liquer outlets, after scoring some pot on the corner.

  9. You can be nice and grandma still might not get her insulin.

  10. LBascom says:

    Filed under: We’re from the government, and we’re here to help

    “In 1932, the NFL team moved to the historic Fenway Park and were left under the leadership of George Preston Marshall. The very next year, Marshall changed the name to ‘Redskins.’ Why?” Beck continued. “Well that’s a good question for the president to ask … the name was changed to ‘Redskins’ to honor then-coach Lone Star Dietz, an American Sioux. So the name actually pays tribute to a great people.” […]

    “But the people it pays tribute to? Oh, I guess they just don’t know any better. But Obama does. And Peter King does. And NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell does. But the majority of the Indians … don’t have a clue at all. The speech police using political correctness again to take care of these helpless, hopeless people so they are never harmed again. It’s for their own good…”

  11. LBascom says:

    ‘riot time!’

    How long before stories of cannibalism show up on CNN? I got a sawbuck on tomorrow afternoon.

  12. dicentra says:

    The very next year, Marshall changed the name to ‘Redskins.’

    Seen on Twitter, paraphrased: “They’ve decided to change the name Washington Redskins because of its insulting connotations. Now they’re the Maryland Redskins.”

  13. geoffb says:

    Obama and Biden go walking in EBT-shutdown land.

  14. leigh says:

    Starving? I find that hard to believe. Don’t these people have anything to pawn to tide them over to tomorrow?

  15. happyfeet says:

    someone needs to set up some cameras so we can see the looks on their food stampy lil faces

  16. dicentra says:

    Reason #15032 why making fun of “preppers” is about as foolish as it gets.

  17. leigh says:

    That’s for sure, di. We always have scads of stuff for lean times.

  18. newrouter says:

    this is so foodstamp

  19. dicentra says:

    The #EBT thing over at Twitter is yielding some interesting results.

    Some are conservatives (or mobys) who say horrible things about the poor, plus the usual liberal screaming about the heartless “baggers.”

    I, of course, make the mistake of engaging some, and it’s not pretty.

    Time to clean the patio.

  20. eCurmudgeon says:

    Starving? I find that hard to believe. Don’t these people have anything to pawn steal to tide them over to tomorrow?

    Fixed that for you.

  21. leigh says:

    Thanks!

  22. LBascom says:

    In America, “going hungry” means the mini-mart on the corner is out of Cheeto’s.

  23. leigh says:

    Or Hot Pockets.

    From the size of some of the people on food stamps, they could stand to fast for a day or six.

  24. RI Red says:

    Well, it’s a good trial run for when it happens for real and not just a glitch. Me, I went to the range. Purely by happenstance.

  25. serr8d says:

    Sure, this could be a random act of Bill Gates. But damned if I don’t have a couple second thoughts, given the timing, with the Shutdown at an impasse, and Barky needing more pressure put on his favorite whipping boys in Congress.

    Keep your eyes open and your back covered. “Three meals“.

  26. geoffb says:

    EBT reported to be back online.

    In other news, Obama finds his own “reset button.”

  27. LBascom says:

    The Obama’s are the worst gift givers ever.

    Kinda like a drug resistant gonorrhea riddled hooker. Only without he class and style.

  28. Drumwaster says:

    Isn’t there supposed to be an office in the government staffed with people who do nothing but plan for gifts to foreign visitors? I mean, it’s not like they don’t spend enough money on otherwise wasted offices…

    Office of Protocol or Social Secretary or something…

  29. bour3 says:

    What a bummer. Imagine being stopped at checkout. Apart from everything else I feel sorry for people who rely on it.

    That happened to me once. Master Charge decided to call in all their dead beats (me) and my extended card was held up. Luckily I did have cash that time but no other cards. I thought, “Poop. We had had such a nice relationship, I pay the minimum, slide by, run up more charges and go on and on, they made a fortune off my bad habits. It was mutually beneficial. I got so mad I paid it off.

    That shows ’em.

    But I remained stubbornly resolutely angrily credit cardless for a full decade until it became impossible and I still hold them all in low regard.

    I’m sure it happens all around but I only noticed it once, an IBT card being used. I’m surprised how many people use cash. The one time was the bottle shop downstairs, late at night, near closing, a guy stumbles in, shit-crusty wet pants, barely standing, barely able to purchase one last little bottle. The checker was reluctant with two customers observing, all four in silence, the only communication shallow grunts. It was existential. It was saturated with pathos. The proper thing to do is call the wagon, yet freedom rings, sometimes it goes ))) thud (((

  30. dicentra says:

    Twitter has implemented a policy to limit one’s daily tweets.

    To prevent spamming, I get that. But they couldn’t provide a Captcha so I can prove I’m not a bot?

    I was right in the middle of some really interesting conversations. Now they think I chickened out.

  31. dicentra says:

    They say it’s to reduce strain on the hamsters.

    They can’t warn me when I have 10 left to wrap it up?

  32. dicentra says:

    Worse, there’s no way to contact support except, wait for it…

    …sending a tweet.

    Jerks.

  33. Points
    Laughs
    …walks away….

  34. SBP says:

    I don’t do Twitter very often, but I just popped over there to see what was going on.

    Love this dude

    https://twitter.com/sirjamesa12

    He’s a self-described “anarcho-communist”, but apparently it’s the type of anarchy that still has EBT cards.

  35. geoffb says:

    “Anarcho-communist,” that must be the one where they finally “do it right.”

  36. SBP says:

    Guess so, geoffb. I was thinking Bakunin-style but apparently this is a different deal.

    According to the Wikipedia article, you get to keep as much of your stuff as is “considered necessary”. “Considered necessary” by whom is unspecified, but I’m guessing that people like sirjamesa12 would be glad to take on that burden.

  37. newrouter says:

    an emp attack would really sink these poor dears day: no ebt and no twitter

  38. happyfeet says:

    oops it must be having a glitch go on darlin

    swipe it again

  39. hellomynameissteve says:

    Good news! EBT cards are working again. You’re all happy about that, right?

  40. palaeomerus says:

    I don’t know. What does your carefully crafted LIV narrative tell you to think?

  41. hellomynameissteve says:

    never let an excuse to h8 obama go to waste.

  42. palaeomerus says:

    Nah. Too long for a bumper sticker. I’ve already forgotten it.

  43. leigh says:

    never let an excuse to h8 obama go to waste.

    I don’t hate him. I just want him to go away. Far, far away.

  44. Drumwaster says:

    Hey, it makes as much sense as liberals blaming Bush…

  45. leigh says:

    Drum, it’s just another instance of them being able to dish it out but not being able to take it.

    We listened to 8 years of Chimpy McHitler. They scream “Racist!” at the drop of a hat.

  46. palaeomerus says:

    “Katrina? I Blame Obama”

    Don’t be stupid hellomynameissteve, Obama lowered the oceans. As far as you know. Meanwhile republicans voted for lead in the water and for kids to have broken legs. I read it on Huffpo.

  47. dicentra says:

    Just learned the following on Twitter:

    Using the term “gubmint” is a racist wink to my White friends.

    Saying “blacks” instead of “black people” is racist and insensitive.

    Observing that if I’d gotten pregnant at 16, dropped out of school, and gone on welfare, I’d be poor too, is bigoted.

    Insisting that bigots don’t favor some blacks over others is racist (my point being that bigotry was so strong it kept all blacks down equally, but if so many have succeeded on their own, it means that bigotry isn’t strong enough to keep ANY blacks down. Sorry, black people.)

    Learned helplessness is not a problem among the poor.

    Marriage and abstinence don’t protect against poverty.

    Social mobility is extremely low in the U.S. and getting lower.

    “Class” doesn’t have to be rigid to be class. Just because nobody is required to defer to anyone and that you are free to improve your lot doesn’t mean that classism doesn’t exist in the U.S.

    “the 70% of working poor who have a HS degree or higher are ‘functionally illiterate'”

    I lack the basic education in SO many things. If only I’d educate myself, I wouldn’t be all blinkered by this fantasy world wherein the work ethic actually means something.

    Enough. I may not get out with my sanity on that one.

  48. palaeomerus says:

    This probably should have been a Tweet Vol 2. #488 :

    ” I just heard a version of ‘ The Windmills of Your Mind’ probably sung by Al Stewart but maybe not. It really made me want to punch myself.’

  49. dicentra says:

    Actually, that 70% comment is supposed to be what I think.

    I hate people.

  50. palaeomerus says:

    Racist isn’t something you ARE anymore Di it’s something they wish you to be. And they don’t distinguish between wishes and reality well.

  51. McGehee says:

    That Blame Bush site on Typepad is a spoof, BTW. If you spot a comment there signed “Cheney W. Halliburton,” that was me.

  52. palaeomerus says:

    Racist is the new Kulak. Think of it as a “this property is condemned and to be demolished on _______” sign.

  53. newrouter says:

    may be of interest

    Little Knots of Agony

  54. dicentra says:

    Ima have to burn down my Twitter account and start over. I’ll never be able to go into my interactions again.

    It was depressing that everyone’s implied interlocutor was such a horrible person, not resembling me at all. But no one would listen to ME. I had to be an awful racist with nothing to say about How To Improve Your Lot.

    It’s also depressing that so many able-bodied people are languishing in projects and “hoods” because they keep getting told “the deck is stacked against you.” Had I the ability, I’d go find those on-the-ball moms in poor neighborhoods and pair them and their kids up with a family that owns a small business or a farm, then have that community help mentor them to get productive life skills down.

    But these folks are a human barricade

    Their chain of causality is exactly backwards regarding social pathologies and their relationship to economic failure. Poverty does have its self-perpetuating spirals, but if you’re already poor, postponing child-bearing until after marriage will HELP. It might not make you a millionaire, but who needs to be?

    And I guess it’s not OK to state clearly and unambiguously that not everyone who is on welfare got there the same way, and that you can do everything right and still end up in a hole, and that yeah, some people are born into holes, and not everyone has the same opportunities, and that my life fell apart, too.

    No, there are no principles of success that you’re better off following. Damn, if Evan Sayet wasn’t absolutely right.

  55. happyfeet says:

    xerox did this to you, food stampers

    they did it on fucking purpose cause they know that you’re impotent loser-assed piece of shit food stampers

    but you are NOT impotent

    you should DEMAND that Kathleen Sebelius and HHS design the technological back-end for the EBT program and manage it from here on out – this is NOT a job for a for-profit corporation

    there is a petition to accomplish this at Starbucks – GO SIGN IT

  56. Drumwaster says:

    this is NOT a job for a for-profit corporation

    Because governments are always so much better at designing things.

    If government had been in charge of the fight against polio, by now we would have the world’s best iron lungs – streamlined, micro-miniaturized head’s up display readouts, nuclear-powered, the works – at a taxpayer-funded cost of several trips to the moon. But we wouldn’t have a vaccine.

  57. happyfeet says:

    oh.

    ok nevermind

  58. dicentra says:

    People on the #EBT thread didn’t realize that a lot of conservatives were jeering because we’re always saying that gubmint does only a couple-three things well and the rest they make into a dog’s breakfast.

    The EBT system going down and stranding needy people with food being an example of the problem with GUBMINT doing it, not that we delight in people starving.

    But that doesn’t flatter them enough, so it has to go.

  59. newrouter says:

    i like it. ebt becoming like barackycare online. the “niggas” will really see their saviour up close and personal.

  60. newrouter says:

    stranding needy people with[out] food

    it stranded folks who don’t plan for emergencies.

  61. newrouter says:

    it stranded folks who were doing impulse buying

  62. newrouter says:

    this could have been a learning experience for the liv ebt buyer but that has to wait for emp event when both ebt and twitter are shut down.

  63. dicentra says:

    Look. Some people really have fallen on hard times. They really are living on the edge. Obamacare effect, remember?

    If the ONLY people on public assistance were the old, infirm, and temporarily unlucky, conservatives wouldn’t complain.

    It’s the needless waste of human lives that galls.

  64. McGehee says:

    LIVs learn?

    Stop it newrouter. You’re killing me.

  65. Drumwaster says:

    Funny thing, di, those were exactly the things that our Founders intended our government to be doing – military, postal roads, regulating the currency and making sure that everyone gets treated the same. The rest should be people doing for themselves or through the non-governmental charitable organizations

  66. leigh says:

    I remember when being on “relief” as my granny called it, was shameful.

    “We was poor” she said ” But we didn’t take nobody’s charity.”

  67. dicentra says:

    Apparently, you have to be born white and rich to be decent, honest, and diligent.

  68. newrouter says:

    Apparently, you have to be born white

    go read the davidthompson post for proggtardia in action with the “educated”

  69. newrouter says:

    now the liv the industrial strength stupid is “educated” into them

  70. leigh says:

    When did “genocide” become a verb? If blacks are being genocided EVERYDAY! it would seem there would be fewer and fewer of them.

    New math?

  71. sdferr says:

    The EBT may not have been working, but Richard Goode has. Take 18:23 out of your day to hear him toil: The TwoCube, C Minor, op. 13.

  72. Drumwaster says:

    We can noun verbs and verb nouns… This is Ebonics!

  73. leigh says:

    I believe that is: Dat be bonics, yo.

  74. leigh says:

    Nome sane?

  75. palaeomerus says:

    Literally apparently means “not literally” now.

  76. newrouter says:

    – If blacks are being genocided EVERYDAY!-

    they are by other blacks and these blacks kill some whites for the sport.

  77. Blake says:

    Nome? As in Nome, Alaska?

    Ebonics includes geography?

    Learn something new every day.

  78. palaeomerus says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sWiZ8BizI

    From Mar. 2010 : ATF Agent Seizes 30 Toy Guns. Says They can be Converted to real weapons.

    There is apparently no limit to the stupidity of the ATF. I guess with a lot of work, if you were good with shop tools and fasteners then you could turn an airsoft gun into a stock kit for a real gun? I’ve known of people who put their .22’s in one. But you need to already have a .22 to that and by putting a .22 into a weird ex-airsoft body that has been cut up to accept it you gain WHAT that the law should be looking into?

  79. dicentra says:

    Also, birth control is like having your teeth checked: preventative care.

  80. palaeomerus says:

    Abortion, virtually up to infanticide, is birth control and a necessary and routine health maintenance procedure.

    Hemorrhaging is a minor side effect in an over the counter drug that can be distributed to minors without their parent’s permissions because their parents are presumed to be retarded Jesus freaks who believe that magic tricks are real and are like totally ignorant about fucking or something.

  81. palaeomerus says:

    If you can’t unilaterally put your off spring to death with no due process then you are a slave, a livestock brood mare who lives chained up in a pen on a baby farm.

    All sex is rape. Somehow.

  82. palaeomerus says:

    There is no legitimate rape, but some rape isn’t rape rape.

    Also “binders full of women” is sinister code for a dangerous policy that comes from a place of deep institutional misogyny.

  83. McGehee says:

    Children are our future and we need to fundamentally transform the entire world to spare them anything uncomfortable like, say, having to grow up.

    Even if it means killing them before they’re born because if they were born their circumstances would cause them to grow up too soon (like, before they’re on Social Security).

  84. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Also, birth control is like having your teeth checked: preventative care.

    I know that this is kinda sorta the point of the subtext already, but I’ll say it out loud anyways:

    That only makes sense if you think of pregnancy as a disease.

    miserere nobis

  85. leigh says:

    Blake

    re: Nome sane? You have to say it aloud. Pretend you are listening to a pro football player being interviewed:

    “So, you just gotta get out there and do what Coach say, nome sane? Me and my fellow a-tha-letes, nome sane?, you know, basicly we do what Coach tell us and the good Lord help us win this game. Nome sane?”

    Hope this helps. Subscribe to further lessons here.

  86. Pablo says:

    And then the EBT cards worked too well. The result? A lot like what was threatened when they weren’t working, the looting part of the riots:

    Food Stamp Glitch Leaves Walmart Shelves Bare: ‘Like a Tornado Had Came Through’

  87. geoffb says:

    The cards were working but they didn’t show what the limit was so…

    Lynd explained the cards weren’t showing limits and they called corporate Walmart, whose spokesman said to let the people use the cards anyway. From 7 to 9 p.m., people were loading up their carts, but when the cards began showing limits again around 9, one woman was detained because she rang up a bill of $700.00 and only had .49 on her card. She was held by police until corporate Walmart said they wouldn’t press charges if she left the food.

    Lynd says at 9 p.m., when the cards came back online and it was announced over the loud speaker, people just left their carts full of food in the aisles and left.

    “Just about everything is gone, I’ve never seen it in that condition,” said Mansfield Walmart customer Anthony Fuller.

  88. leigh says:

    The EBT consumers know what their balance is. It’s printed at the bottom of every receipt for everything they buy from booze to groceries to lotto tickets.

    As proven by .49 cents left woman who tried to heist $700 worth of eats and left them there when busted.

    I see an awful lot of snack foods in those grocery baskets. It’s probably racist for me to notice, so I denounce myself.

  89. Blake says:

    Stripping the shelves at Walmart is probably the first time in years these people have worked up a sweat through physical exertion.

  90. sdferr says:

    Reckon these proficient Walmart consumers are presently asking themselves how they’re going to extract medical services when the day comes that their DisasterCare card doesn’t function?

  91. Squid says:

    I’ll be interested to see the aftermath. You can bet your ass that Wal-Mart kept records of all the transactions, and will cheerfully send their nightly reports to the State for processing. There’s going to be an awful lot of people with ($800) balances this week.

    I can’t wait to hear all the sob stories in a week or two, about these poor mothers who can’t feed their kids because they binged on “free” food of an unfortunate and unfair mixup that left their benefits exhausted.

  92. McGehee says:

    Reckon these proficient Walmart consumers are presently asking themselves how they’re going to extract medical services when the day comes that their DisasterCare card doesn’t function?

    No. That would require foresight and critical thinking skills.

  93. sdferr says:

    Ha, McG! Ya mean they can’t just rip medical services down from the shelves? Holy shit, Bullwinkle, we might gats a problem here.

  94. SBP says:

    Ah, yes. The “greedheads” at Walmart. Not content with exploiting the poor by having low prices and accessible stores (with employment opportunities, no less), now they’ve entrapped the customers with non-working cards by pretending to put them on the honor system, only to call the cops when it turned out their cards didn’t have the funds. Trust them to make it look like they care about happy customers, while actually engaging in a racist conspiracy against them.

  95. palaeomerus says:

    “LIVs learn?”

    Eventually. They got prohibition passed, and ratified and learned such that it was eventually repealed. It’s learning of a sort,

  96. McGehee says:

    I’m not sure the repeal was because the LIVs learned anything. Prohibition passed because the pols forgot how stupid the LIVs are.

    They learned, briefly, to ignore the LIVs.

    Now they’ve not so much forgotten again, they consider it a feature rather than a bug.

  97. geoffb says:

    [T]hese proficient Walmart consumers.

    Proficient at quickly texting everyone they knew once it was announced to the few customers there at the time that Walmart would still allow payment with EBT cards that they couldn’t confirm the balance on.

    That required the ability to realize how that “flaw” could be scammed today. It also required the non-ability to think that the scam wouldn’t be found out later or the knowledge that the welfare EBT system as practiced there in the “Clown-disaster” years would simply shrug and not care as it would be not be “fair” to hold anyone to account.

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