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“Dr. Ben Carson: Obamacare ‘Worst Thing That’s Happened in this Nation Since Slavery'”

Well then. He can’t be authentically black, then, can he, making such an argument? 

Forcing people into indentured servitude because you’ve laid claim to a positive right is hardly slavery, though, is it? Rather, it’s social justice. Like looting, only with a political party all agreeing that, given the circumstances, looting is really nothing more than a kind of private-sector charitable donation. So, you know. EAT THE RICH!

61 Replies to ““Dr. Ben Carson: Obamacare ‘Worst Thing That’s Happened in this Nation Since Slavery'””

  1. happyfeet says:

    I do not agree 100% with this metaphor.

    Obamacare (so far) only targets losers – it singles out stupid luckless food stampy people what have made Bad Choice and are stuck in bad jobs if they have jobs at all and who can’t get real healthcare and forces them to buy shitty government healthcare.

    Slavery targeted everybody. That’s for sure the goal of Obamacare but we’re not there yet and there’s a good chance this whole obamafucked country will go tit’s up before it comes to that. We are a little country of increasingly limited means you see.

  2. happyfeet says:

    maybe that should just be *tits up* I think

    I’m not gonna bother googling cause I hardly ever use that expression

  3. Bones says:

    Speak it, brother Carson! This guy is in my head.

    And on that note, here comes another IRS audit.

  4. angstlee says:

    Every time I see something about Dr. Ben Carson, I have to chuckle because it reminds me of the time he was speaking about how bad Obamacare sucked and Obama was sitting right there with him on the platform and Michelle kept rolling her eyes. Hence, the good doctor is now one of my heroes.

  5. SBP says:

    “Obamacare (so far) only targets losers”

    No.

    Lots of people are losing their existing health insurance (despite Obama’s lie) ’cause it doesn’t, e.g., provide maternity coverage to 60 year old women. And, you know, good luck getting new coverage if you’re a 60 year old woman.

  6. happyfeet says:

    yes those ones are the “luckless” ones

    Obamacare is a blunt instrument but if you’re on the Obamacare you’re for sure not #winning is more my point

  7. leigh says:

    Obamacare is going to die stillborn for many reasons, most laid out already by our tech-friendly Outlaws.

    The IRS can come and find me.

  8. SBP says:

    I’ll pay them their 95 bucks next year. Long-term, I have other plans.

  9. leigh says:

    Same here.

  10. Squid says:

    Obamacare (so far) only targets losers – it singles out stupid luckless food stampy people what have made Bad Choice and are stuck in bad jobs if they have jobs at all and who can’t get real healthcare and forces them to buy shitty government healthcare.

    On behalf of every self-employed professional whose insurance is being totally fucked with, I offer a hearty FUCK YOU, HAMSTER!

  11. Darleen says:

    How about all those hardworking, frugal seniors who are on Medicare Advantage? Which is one part of medicare that actually works.

    Or all the doctors who successfully run their own hospitals … better care at lower $ who are being crushed due to Obama’s cronies in the hospital lobby?

    All “losers”?

    Dayum.

  12. happyfeet says:

    it’s $95 or 1% of your income whichever is higher

    it’s really a lot more punitive and confiscatory than a lot of people think

    I’m starting to see a lot of anecdotal evidence that being put on the obamacares makes people very grumpy

    I can understand that I’d be so upset if that happened to me

  13. SBP says:

    “it’s $95 or 1% of your income whichever is higher”

    Yep, you’re right. So they’ll get whatever it is.

    I’m going to be spending 2014 exploring my spiritual side, so I probably won’t really have any income. Who knows? I might even wind up in a church that’s opposed to health insurance.

  14. happyfeet says:

    my spirituality is what keeps me centered I hope your explorations are very rewarding

    my favorite spiritual thing is to watch my turtles bask in the sun so I have them set up right outside my kitchen window

    basking is very very ineffable

    they give their whole little turtle selves over to it, and they are quiet beyond quiet and peaceful beyond peaceful

    the sunshines draw them up and with the dignity of sacrament the lil turtles

    they … simply surrender

    and it’s super spiritual and stuff

  15. Obamacare (so far) only targets losers …

    How do you manage to cram 55 gallons of industrial strength stupid into 6 little words?

  16. SBP says:

    What do the turtles have to say about paying “tax monies” directly to well-connected insurance companies?

  17. happyfeet says:

    the turtles say that the sword that kills a man is the sword that saves a man Mr. Spies

  18. happyfeet says:

    they also say you better make good choices or you gonna end up on the Obamacares, but I think they just say that cause they heard me say it

  19. serr8d says:

    Obama’s buds can explain his tactics. ObamaCare was a ruse designed to fail.

    After a century of struggle, the ACA commits the United States to providing universal access to health care. This is a great achievement, one to be treasured and nurtured. Now the real fight begins, to turn this commitment into a reality that the ACA itself cannot produce. Barack Obama was right the first time: only a single-payer program can provide universal coverage, and only a single-payer program can control costs. The ACA may be the last bad idea that Americans try; after it fails, we will finally do the right thing: single-payer health insurance.

  20. BigBangHunter says:

    – “single-payer health insurance.” – Enforced servitude of the producers to provide for the slouth, courtesy of Moscow on the Potomac, whom can then count on the votes by the slouth.

    – The Progressive creed:
    “From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his slouth.”

  21. Darleen says:

    only a single-payer program can provide universal coverage, and only a single-payer program can control costs.

    But it never can control the non-monetary costs … as in quality, innovation and caring.

    That’s the Left though, better everyone have piss poor care than let even one person have no insurance.

  22. Libby says:

    Carson is so right it’s depressing.

    Not only will the quality of care decline (doctors leaving, treatment innovation stifled, etc.), but care will become less equal than before. Healthcare expenses and treatment options will become politicized just like any other federal program, such as the stimulus or placement of military bases. And there will be no limit to how much our privacy is invaded, and our freedoms hindered, in order for the government to micromanage our health.
    Ugh, it makes my head hurt.

  23. SBP says:

    “That’s the Left though, better everyone have piss poor care than let even one person have no insurance.”

    Indeed. As long as everyone is the same (except for the commisars and other party elite, of course), it’s paradise on earth.

    In the sense that there are generally a whole lot of dead people there.

    The fact that even “poor” people in, say, the United States are about 100,000 times better off than people in, say, North Korea doesn’t enter into it.

  24. leigh says:

    I’ve been reading around the interwebs and it’s amazing how the libs are crowing about Cruz supposedly belly-flopping and the TEA Party being demoralized.

    Way not to read a room, libs.

  25. palaeomerus says:

    I bought my dad a new tv.

    He is watching it now.

    Fox News HD. Hannity is a loutish a-hole surfing on a sea of constantly evading and interrupting idiots and the whole mess is supposed to look like a town hall discussion of what little they STILL know about the Affordable Health Cafe Act.

    The veins in my head…oh how they pound.

  26. newrouter says:

    In 1974, when I was employed in a brewery, my immediate superior was a certain Š, a person well versed in the art of making beer. He was proud of his profession and he wanted our brewery to brew good beer. He spent almost all his time at work, continually thinking up improvements, and he frequently made the rest of us feel uncomfortable because he assumed that we loved brewing as much as he did. In the midst of the slovenly indifference to work that socialism encourages, a more constructive worker would be difficult to imagine.

    The brewery itself was managed by people who understood their work less and were less fond of it, but who were politically more influential. They were bringing the brewery to ruin and not only did they fail to react to any of Š’s suggestions, but they actually became increasingly hostile toward him and tried in every way to thwart his efforts to do a good job. Eventually the situation became so bad that Š felt compelled to write a lengthy letter to the manager’s superior, in which he attempted to analyze the brewery’s difficulties. He explained why it was the worst in the district and pointed to those responsible.

    His voice might have been heard. The manager, who was politically powerful but otherwise ignorant of beer, a man who loathed workers and was given to intrigue, might have been replaced and conditions in the brewery might have been improved on the basis of Š’s suggestions. Had this happened, it would have been a perfect example of small-scale work in action. Unfortunately, the precise opposite occurred: the manager of the brewery, who was a member of the Communist Party’s district committee, had friends in higher places and he saw to it that the situation was resolved in his favor. Š’s analysis was described as a “defamatory document” and Š himself was labeled a “political saboteur.” He was thrown out of the brewery and shifted to another one where he was given a job requiring no skill. Here the notion of small-scale work had come up against the wall of the post-totalitarian system. By speaking the truth, Š had stepped out of line, broken the rules, cast himself out, and he ended up as a subcitizen, stigmatized as an enemy. He could now say anything he wanted, but he could never, as a matter of principle, expect to be heard. He had become the “dissident” of the Eastern Bohemian Brewery.

    link

  27. palaeomerus says:

    “Way not to read a room, libs.”

    But every dumb and uninformed person will remember it how the libs told it and call you crazy for remembering different.

  28. leigh says:

    It wouldn’t be the first time, palaeo.

    I have had FOX on boycott after Special Report for months now. They are nearly ready to go over the cliff, as well.

  29. palaeomerus says:

    Heh. I fat-fingered “care” as cafe… Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

  30. geoffb says:

    How about all those hardworking, frugal seniors who are on Medicare Advantage? Which is one part of medicare that actually works.

    Upon turning 65 this year I signed up for a Medicare Advantage plan. My primary care and a number of my specialists are all from the same healthcare group which is part of a local University medical school. The med students are interns and residents there along with the doctors who oversea their work. I like the mix.

    A couple of months ago I got a letter from them saying that they are discontinuing accepting payment from all Medicare Advantage plans and recommend that I drop my plan and go on regular Medicare along with a Medigap policy and a Part D one as they will be continuing to accept payment from that.

    So in my case the provider is dropping Medicare Advantage and keeping regular government Medicare. In Connecticut it seems to be the other way around with a Medicare Advantage plan dropping doctors.

    Both smell of being some kind of Obamacare collateral damage which was likely baked into that stinking ACA cake to begin with.

  31. SBP says:

    http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/obamacare-healthcare-gov-website-cost/

    $500 million. The number who have successfully signed up is in the “single digits”.

  32. newrouter says:

    If ideology is the principal guarantee of the inner consistency of
    power, it becomes at the same time an increasingly important guarantee
    of its continuity. Whereas succession to power in classical
    dictatorships is always a rather complicated affair (the pretenders
    having nothing to give their claims reasonable legitimacy, thereby
    orcing them always to resort to confrontations of naked power), in
    the post-totalitarian system power is passed on from person to •.
    person, from clique to clique, and from generation to generation in
    an essentially more regular fashion. In the selection of pretenders, a
    ew ‘king-maker’ takes part: it is ritual legitimation, the ability to
    ely on ritual, to fulfil it and use it, to allow oneself, as it were, to be
    borne aloft by it. Naturally, power struggles exist in the postotalitarian
    system as well, and most of them are far more brutal
    than in an open society, for the struggle is not open, regulated by
    democratic rules, and subject to public control, but hidden behind
    the scenes. (It is difficult to recall a single instance in which the First
    Secretary of a ruling Communist Party has been replaced without
    he various military and security forces being placed at least on
    alert.) This struggle, however, can never (as it can in classical dictatorships)
    threaten the very essence of the system and its continuity.
    At most it will shake up the power structure, which will recover
    quickly, precisely because the binding substance – ideology –
    remains undisturbed. No matter who is replaced by whom, succession
    is only possible against the backdrop and within the framework
    of a common ritual.

    potpless page 33

  33. newrouter says:

    The Prague Spring is usually understood as a clash between two
    groups on the level of real power: those who wanted to maintain the
    system as it was and those who wanted to reform it. It is frequently
    forgotten, however, that this encounter was merely the final act and
    the inevitable consequence of a long drama originally played out
    chiefly in the theatre of the spirit and the conscience of society.

  34. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Obamacare (so far) only targets losers – it singles out stupid luckless food stampy people what have made Bad Choice and are stuck in bad jobs if they have jobs at all and who can’t get real healthcare and forces them to buy shitty government healthcare.

    Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Steny Hoyer agree with you. As do John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and Eric Cantor, though politcs precluded their voting their convictions.

    So congratulations on your honesty. You’re in deserved company.

  35. JHoward says:

    deserved company

    “Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.”

    – Vladimir Lenin

  36. Pablo says:

    The number who have successfully signed up is in the “single digits”.

    51K now. Which is abysmal if you were expecting the thing to be some sort of success. I’d like to know how many of those are heavily subsidized versus paying retail.

  37. serr8d says:

    “Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.”

    – Vladimir Lenin

    I did a quick research run at that. There’s nothing written by Lenin that even approximates that sentiment, mostly because healthcare wasn’t even on Socialists’ radar during his lifetime. Seems to have originated in the ’40’s, associated with the (then) non-Marxist AMA.

    So, I re-wrote it just a bit, for my unreadable blog…

    Socialized medicine is the keystone to the foundation of a socialist State. We are becoming just that, the thing that our grandparents fought and died to stop from spreading: the centralized, controlling evil that sows socialism ‘for the good of the people’. Taken from those who have, given to those who need; redistributed by the iron fist of the IRS. Who needs to rely on churches and charity anymore, when a powerful Government can simply take whatever they feel you have to spare, and give it to whomever promises them fealty?

  38. BigBangHunter says:

    Government can simply take whatever they feel you have to spare – since theft no longer enters into it. The new paradigm is “if you can spare it then others have a right to it”. Society is no longer a contract by law, but a contract of feel good political crimes.

  39. geoffb says:

    Republican’s cave, Obama kicks them where their balls aren’t and says, “No deal, my way or the highway.” “The Senators know their place, so should you tea-baggers in the House.”

  40. sdferr says:

    Sheesh, that intentional threat of default mantra just won’t quit, will it? Still seems to me the mere introduction of the threat is sufficient ground for impeachment. But you wouldn’t know that from the trumpeting FoxNews gives the thing. They’re all on board with the idea. “Threaten away,” Fox says, “We’ve got your back!”

  41. geoffb says:

    So does Obama has a secret agreement with “global financial leaders” in this shutdown like the one Clinton had with the Unions in the 90s one?

    Sure looks like, because they are saying things they know aren’t true to help him just as the Union thugs did back then.

  42. The Monster says:

    Make no mistake: Obamacare can not “fail” in any meaningful sense. It is already doing exactly what it was designed to do: collapse the existing private health-insurance system in classic Cloward-Piven fashion. It’s first doing so for ‘Feet’s “losers”. But as it goes forward, more and more people will become “losers”, until one day we look up and we’re all buying our health care through the government. And then you’d better hope your Death Panel doesn’t know you’re one of those teabagging hobbits.

  43. sdferr says:

    As the advertizing went, came Oct. 1st and ClownDisasterAirlines began declaring “You are now free to move about your cage.”

  44. happyfeet says:

    starbucks says we have to end this goddamn shutdown and we have to do end it now because retail environment

  45. sdferr says:

    Putney Swope says the Borman Six girl has got to have soul.

  46. happyfeet says:

    her favorite hobby is emasculation!

    wow Mrs. Boehnerfag was kinda cute when she was young

  47. cranky-d says:

    Does our cage have a wheel in it? I hope so, because I enjoy running around and not getting anywhere.

  48. sdferr says:

    Damn straight it has a wheel in it. Wouldn’t want all that free kinetic energy to go to waste now, would we? Besides, where the hell else is the funding for the colossal leviathan going to come from? Certainly not from deep thinkers like TheClownDisaster.

  49. sdferr says:

    Jobs? Something good to come out of a disaster? Oh hells no, we can’t have that! We need the rot and waste!

  50. SBP says:

    “51K now. Which is abysmal if you were expecting the thing to be some sort of success. I’d like to know how many of those are heavily subsidized versus paying retail.”

    Yep, pretty sad. I’m not sure whether “single digits” was raw numbers or percentages, now that I reflect on it. The article wasn’t all that clear.

    The Washington State exchange (which also melted down the first day, but soon recovered — unlike the Fed’s $500 MM piece of crap) is running about 90% Medicaid (who, of course, pay nothing at all, and could’ve been handled by the existing system), 10% “paying” customers. No breakdown on how many of the 10% are subsidized. A lot, I’d bet.

  51. Mueller says:

    Barack Obama was right the first time: only a single-payer program can provide universal coverage, and only a single-payer program can control costs. – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51502#comments

    Only a progressive could utter such nonsense and only a true liberal would believe it.

  52. Slartibartfast says:

    Slavery targeted everybody.

    ORLY?

    I don’t recall a lot of wealthy slaves being around.

    Also, there just weren’t nearly that many white ones. Which, to avert a response by Darleen, isn’t even close to the same thing as saying there weren’t any.

  53. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Plenty of white slaves in North Africa back in the day, as I recall.

  54. Slartibartfast says:

    Oh, sure, if you expand your scope a bit. But everyone knows that “slavery” only applies in the context of the history of the US.

    /snark

  55. SBP says:

    Plenty of white slaves today, too. A lot of them are from Eastern Europe.

  56. happyfeet says:

    speaking of slaves some people argue that dogs have free will so therefore they’re totally responsible for what they do

    and that means they maybe even have brains

  57. sdferr says:

    Wow, even her tits are Cartesian, so wholesomely American is she!

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