I admire the way the writer goes, in successive sentences, from describing her own policy preferences as “everything that Americans cherish” to complaining of “Bush’s complete and utter inability to compromise or take other people’s opinions into consideration”.
As a new Democratic slogan, “safe, legal, and exceedingly common” sure sounds like a winner to me.
AND he wants to turn my bedroom into a fishbowl. Because he’s beholden to Bible-thumpers. I feel so refreshed by that glass of lemonade. Tasted like Kool Aid, though.
I feel the healing! The warm sweet salve of being labeled a warmongering hypocritical lying corporatist wage-slave anti-environmentalist whitebread jihadi-recruiting moronic half-witted Rovian clone who’s only interest is in saving unwanted fetuses who wreck the environment with their unnatural desire for monster trucks and toxic chemical factories wherein undocumented aliens are forced to murder baby harp seals and torture innocent Iraqis for far less than minimum wage.
I WUZ RED BUT NOW ‘AM BLUE! I’M HEALED! I SEE TH’ LIGHT! PRAISE HOWARD DEAN!
Spam word: look. As in: look how blue all these labels have made me.
She forgot to mention that Roberts supports the paternity rights of rapists. I thought it would be obvious by now that the Republicans are only interested in the white/male/rapist vote.
“She forgot to mention that Roberts supports the paternity rights of rapists. “
You know, I’ve been seeing this one floating around certain sites toady. Does this actually manage to reference a specific case, or is it just the usual obsessive-compulsive howling?
Moe – I saw that meme on Juan Cole’s Happy Website of Idiocy. He’s just extrapolating from Roberts’ pro-life views. Roberts’ is personally pro-life, so Roberts’ will vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, so abortion (for any reason!) will be illegal, so women that are raped will have to bear the rapist’s child.
That’s a tenuous line of reasoning, of course. And it doesn’t even get into whether the rapist will get visitation, have to pay child support, etc. I guess Rove hasn’t worked all the evil details out yet.
Looks as if Cole’s moved to higher heights (cue the Loony Tunes music) of wrongness. Why, it seems it was just yesterday that he was crediting Clinton with stopping the Millenium plot…which, of course, was way fucked up and roundly refuted by the article he took it from.
“If current rates continue, it is estimated that 35% of all women of reproductive age in America today will have had an abortion by the time they reach the age of 45.”
So it’s an extrapolation, not a survey or documented cases. Even so, the “1 in 3” stat seems to be reasonable after a quick poke at the old calculator.
There are about 56 million women “of reproductive age in America today” (between ages 14-45), which neatly corresponds almost exactly to when abortion became legal. 35% of that would be about 20 million women that the author says will have, or already have had, abortions by the time they are 45.
There are presently about 650,000 new abortion customers per year, and about the same number of repeat customers. The number of abortions has been relatively stable (ranging from about 1.1 to 1.5 million) since 1976, although one can assume that there were more first-timers and fewer repeats in the first years of legal abortions.
30 years at 650K new patients per year would get you to that “1 in 3 women” level, and I’d argue that since there were fewer repeats in the first 15 years or so, the number might be higher.
This stat may appear to be way out of whack depending on where you live (incidents of abortion are concentrated in big cities and lower-income levels), but upon quick analysis, I have no trouble believing it.
Personally, I like lemonade. Almost as much as I like ruining the lives of average Americans by taking away, first and foremost, the right to privacy that ensures that we can live as we choose. And criminalizing ordinary women. That’s pretty fun, too.
But she’s wrong about the Clinton thing; I voted for Bubba because he’s so cute.
There are presently about 650,000 new abortion customers per year, and about the same number of repeat customers.
Pro-life, pro-choice, pro-whatever; that statistic is both horrifying and depressing. Especially the “repeat customer” part.
The biggest beef I have with pro-abortion types is not even a “sanctity of life” argument, but the fact that their lifestyle, as evidenced in the above-mentioned statistic, promotes the utter abdication of personal responsibility in re: all things reproductive.
And I’m a big personal responsibility guy. Which is why posts like the one at Pandagon give me the jibblies
And of course, the healing…
If so; then, why so many abortions?
I admire the way the writer goes, in successive sentences, from describing her own policy preferences as “everything that Americans cherish” to complaining of “Bush’s complete and utter inability to compromise or take other people’s opinions into consideration”.
As a new Democratic slogan, “safe, legal, and exceedingly common” sure sounds like a winner to me.
That’s Pandagon?! What the hell happened to that site?
Tragically, the vast majority of Americans aren’t getting laid at all. Right? Who’s with me? Please? Anyone? Someone validate my existence….
and she finishes with the memorable ‘driving women into the arms of one Bill Clinton’ …
as opposed to the arms of a buzz-cut, short, nasally billionaire or the sexagenarian pater familias of Clan Chimp.
or, the septagenarian one-armed embrace of Nixon’s hatchet man.
oy.
Amanda Marcotte: If she didn’t exist,
Karl Rove would have to invent her.
John Roberts HATES FREEDOM!
AND he wants to turn my bedroom into a fishbowl. Because he’s beholden to Bible-thumpers. I feel so refreshed by that glass of lemonade. Tasted like Kool Aid, though.
I feel the healing! The warm sweet salve of being labeled a warmongering hypocritical lying corporatist wage-slave anti-environmentalist whitebread jihadi-recruiting moronic half-witted Rovian clone who’s only interest is in saving unwanted fetuses who wreck the environment with their unnatural desire for monster trucks and toxic chemical factories wherein undocumented aliens are forced to murder baby harp seals and torture innocent Iraqis for far less than minimum wage.
I WUZ RED BUT NOW ‘AM BLUE! I’M HEALED! I SEE TH’ LIGHT! PRAISE HOWARD DEAN!
Spam word: look. As in: look how blue all these labels have made me.
The want to prevent me from being able to buy condoms? I say government has no place in our truckstop restrooms!
She forgot to mention that Roberts supports the paternity rights of rapists. I thought it would be obvious by now that the Republicans are only interested in the white/male/rapist vote.
Abortions for some, tiny American flags for the others!
We could learn a lot from the Democrats. After all, the appointed the moderate, unpartisan Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Reading the Democrats squawking points over and over I was struck with a thought:
What would they do if we could somehow get human fetuses placed on the endangered species list?
I’m just dying to know where he came up with the 1 in 3 women statistic.
“She forgot to mention that Roberts supports the paternity rights of rapists. “
You know, I’ve been seeing this one floating around certain sites toady. Does this actually manage to reference a specific case, or is it just the usual obsessive-compulsive howling?
That should be ‘today’. No commentary on Matt Moore was intended.
That’s the silliest thing I think I’ve read in recent weeks. Any law can turn someone into a potential criminal.
And she seems to ignore the fact that as many woman are opposed to abortion as men.
For that matter – last post, honest! – I know that he was being sarcastic…
I’ll hush, now.
Moe – I saw that meme on Juan Cole’s Happy Website of Idiocy. He’s just extrapolating from Roberts’ pro-life views. Roberts’ is personally pro-life, so Roberts’ will vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, so abortion (for any reason!) will be illegal, so women that are raped will have to bear the rapist’s child.
That’s a tenuous line of reasoning, of course. And it doesn’t even get into whether the rapist will get visitation, have to pay child support, etc. I guess Rove hasn’t worked all the evil details out yet.
I thought I was reading satire until I looked at the comments.
Any law can turn someone into a potential criminal.
Actually, everyone is a potential criminal.
Well, except for those of you with the mind-control modules in your sinuses, that is. You know who you are.
Oops. I shouldn’t have said that…
Never mind.
Ah, so that’s where it came from. I wish that I could say that I was surprised.
Looks as if Cole’s moved to higher heights (cue the Loony Tunes music) of wrongness. Why, it seems it was just yesterday that he was crediting Clinton with stopping the Millenium plot…which, of course, was way fucked up and roundly refuted by the article he took it from.
Don’t forget he managed to blame 9/11 on Jenin. Which didn’t happen until 2002.
Possibly here.
“If current rates continue, it is estimated that 35% of all women of reproductive age in America today will have had an abortion by the time they reach the age of 45.”
So it’s an extrapolation, not a survey or documented cases. Even so, the “1 in 3” stat seems to be reasonable after a quick poke at the old calculator.
There are about 56 million women “of reproductive age in America today” (between ages 14-45), which neatly corresponds almost exactly to when abortion became legal. 35% of that would be about 20 million women that the author says will have, or already have had, abortions by the time they are 45.
There are presently about 650,000 new abortion customers per year, and about the same number of repeat customers. The number of abortions has been relatively stable (ranging from about 1.1 to 1.5 million) since 1976, although one can assume that there were more first-timers and fewer repeats in the first years of legal abortions.
30 years at 650K new patients per year would get you to that “1 in 3 women” level, and I’d argue that since there were fewer repeats in the first 15 years or so, the number might be higher.
This stat may appear to be way out of whack depending on where you live (incidents of abortion are concentrated in big cities and lower-income levels), but upon quick analysis, I have no trouble believing it.
Personally, I like lemonade. Almost as much as I like ruining the lives of average Americans by taking away, first and foremost, the right to privacy that ensures that we can live as we choose. And criminalizing ordinary women. That’s pretty fun, too.
But she’s wrong about the Clinton thing; I voted for Bubba because he’s so cute.
Pro-life, pro-choice, pro-whatever; that statistic is both horrifying and depressing. Especially the “repeat customer” part.
The biggest beef I have with pro-abortion types is not even a “sanctity of life” argument, but the fact that their lifestyle, as evidenced in the above-mentioned statistic, promotes the utter abdication of personal responsibility in re: all things reproductive.
And I’m a big personal responsibility guy. Which is why posts like the one at Pandagon give me the jibblies
Repeat customers. God help America.
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