”…Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Terry Schiavo! Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity…”
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update: for those of you interested in the Schiavo case, allow me to point you to these links: James Joyner’s Outside the Beltway round-up; INDC Journal’s discussion thread; this heated discussion thread at Dailypundit; Michele Catalano’s thoughts, Robert Hayes’ editorial for the Blogger News Network; Dean Esmay’s take, Secure Liberty’s /a> roundup, and Ace’s complete Schiavo coverage (just keep scrolling down).
My (very brief) take: the law signed by the President early this morning strikes me as unconstitutional; I suspect the federal judge will declare it so on its face.
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update 2: Missed this one earlier, from Ann Althouse (h/t Allah)
Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Terri Terri!
I do read your site you know . . .
“… my God, Alan’s got an ass like a french vanilla ice cream cone …”
”…and I’m strangely attracted to it.”
I’ll guess we’ll have to amend that to: “Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Terry Schiavo! Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Read Protein Wisdom Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity!”
Alan’s ass is white and sticky?
So much for my fucking lunch.
And melting rapidly…
It’s a crying shame that this woman didn’t have an advanced directive/living will whatever (?). It’s turned into a circus and it’s unlikely that the truth will ever be known. And just to put some fuel on the fire, if we’re willing to let people die by dehydration, why not just let them slip into a nice altered state with some drugs and then just top them up so they die? That’s humane, at least.
You see? You mention Terri Schiavo and someone has to crash in and harsh your ALAN COLMES GAY PORN COCK mellow.
I’m dealing with a similar situation now. The discussion ought to be about getting people to make out a Last Will and Testament and Advanced Directive as soon as they’re 18 years old. That’s what our Soldiers have to do.
Not friggin’ asparagus again!
As regards Schiavo; Ask yourelf where true mercy lies in this case. If she is brain dead as medical evidence supports and the tube is removed.. no harm, no sin.. But if she is not dead, then consider that the poor woman has spent the last 15 years of her life trapped in a box.. unable to move, unable to scratch an itch, unable to express herself, soiling herself, without dignity.. If Terry Schiavo is trying to say anything, as her parents suggest, I’ll wager its “somebody please kill me”..
There are things worse than death to fear…
”..Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Colmesian Leglock (smile) Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean..”
Well, there’s no shortage of emotional debate on this one.
I’ve read that she’s unlikely to feel pain. That her facial expressions can be missinterpreted for joy or pain etc…
Well, first of all is unlikely good enough? Second, has anyone pricker her with a pin and seen if she demonstrates an aversion to the pain?
Can’t we conclude that starving said person to death is likely a problem that goes beyond the state level and esculates to a federal question? To Wit Life, Liberty and the pursuit of free internet por…I mean happiness? You know, the same as every death row inmate might try to appeal?
From what I understand, most congressmen are trying to simply raise it as a federal question and thus bring it to a federal court which up to this point hasn’t happened.
Man, I tell you what if that lady can feel pain and they starve her to death. That’s a bad way to go out.
As a current law student, my take is that it is not unconstitutional in that it is in the power of congress to provide for supplemental jurisdictions to the courts, no matter how small or large, as long as the controversy arises under the constitution, which I think they will hold that the right to life does. It does strike me as shady, just not unconstitutional.
Man, I tell you what if that lady can feel pain and they starve her to death. That’s a bad way to go out.
Via a commenter at WWR:
She won’t starve to death. She’ll have multiple organ failure culminating in cardiac arrest as a result of dehydration, and during that time the nurses will keep her as comfortable as possible by giving her morphine and likely a sedative such as Ativan, as well as artificial tears, saliva, and a lip moistening gel. A side effect of the morphine will be to suppress her respiration, which will hasten the process. Her body will be comfortable. Her mind won’t know the difference, because she has no capacity to experience anything cognitively. I’ve been through this with five relatives in the past 12 years, including my grandmother last month. It’s the most humane way to go given the doctor’s legal inability to intentionally provide a drug for the purpose of causing someone’s body to shut down. When I go, I want to die instantly; but if I were to suffer an extended illness or be profoundly incapacitated, this is how I would want to go.
Posted by Michael Ditto at March 20, 2005 05:28 AM
Psst: read the constitution, in particular article 1, section 8.
Timmy!
“Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Citizen Journalist Report! Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity March 24! Sean Hannity Sean Hannity Sean Hannity I am so fucked! Sean Hannity Sean Hannity…”
Okay. But don’t forget to read Amendment XIV, Section 5, too.
Not saying it’s a winner, just something to think about.
Not to mention, Allah; section 1 of Amendment 14:
…nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Sean Hannity does not actually think; he reads and remembers lists of things he’s read. And he repeats them. Endlessly. And Alan sits there – grateful as hell.
You gotta respect Alan.
Pretty much depends on *which* federal judge, don’t it?
Bill – I don’t know who’s death the above describes, but I’m guessing it was an Alzheimer’s patient? I’ve seen people go this way, and it isn’t pretty. But, from what I have read – Terri is much more aware than your terminal stage Alzeihmer’s patient (she has wake and sleep cycles … blinks her eyes … and does, to a limited level – responds to pain.) I think those that are saying she will not ‘feel’ her death are being hopefully optimistic. Since, really, how can they know?
If she “needs” to die, because she’s a carrot, then the only ethical thing to do is to give her a healthy dose of morphine. But, I think the parents should be allowed to do what they wish (run the extra tests, try the other therapies.)
I believe that Congress had the Constitutional authority, see
Art.I, Sec. 8, par.18 (Congress may make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution all other Powers vested in the Government of the U.S.)
Art. III, Sec. 1 (judicial power of the U.S. vested in such inferior courts as Congress may ordain and establish)
Amendments V & XIV (no deprivation of life w/o due process)
This is not a Bill of Attainder as this is not a means by which to inflict punishment on an individual without a trial.
Hey, no one wants the federal government interfering in the states’ business. The only problem is that this woman had no recourse to independent legal counsel. In the old days, the doctors would keep you alive whether you wanted it or not. But now we’re in the world of the Living Will, the situation is increasingly more complex, so we have to be sure we’re doing the right thing. It’s too easy to violate someone’s civil rights. There was enough evidence to suggest she had no protection from a possibly hostile guardian.
This has been coming for a while. I think we need a permanent bipartisan congressional organization – including ethics professionals, lawyers and theologians – to meet yearly to review legal issues affecting bioethics. Otherwise, we’ll all have to go through this again. It’s a responsibility we can’t shirk.
spam word: final (Does that mean anything…?)
Ahem, ahem,
It’s not that we’re in the age of the living will that makes the Schiavo case occur. It’s that we’re in the age of each big city having an entire hospital filled with people who would have been dead a decade ago, but who are now able to be kept alive in ways we couldn’t have even imagined until recently. We’re in the age where it’s possible to keep almost anyone alive for as long as we want, provided the funding is available to pay for it.
Of course, the question of quality of life will always follow our ability to maintain its quantity. That’s been true for a very long time.
The recently passed law is no more or less constitutional than any other civil rights issue for which Congress has presumed and assigned Federal Jurisdiction. There is nothing more ironic or pathetic than watching a black elected official from the south argue State’s rights, as happened last night.
Unfortunately, this is really only a continued failure of the Legislative branch of government -Florida’s in this case. The ultimate decision should rest with them, but they have abdicated to the judiciary, as usual.
Funny, jon, if you lock me up away from food and water for a few days I’ll be just as dead as Terri Schiavo will be, and I allegedly have an intact brain, and need no particular “way we wouldn’t have imagined until recently” to keep me alive. (I say “allegedly” just to cover my ass just in case it does so happen that my cerebral cortex is “liquified.” That could explain the headaches and the puzzling murderous rampages though.)
It’s called Article III supplemental jurisdiction. It is up to congress to decide what jurisdiction the Federal Courts have as long as it falls within Article III of the constitution. Congress is not doing anything except allowing federal courts to here this one case, which they are perfectly allowed to do under Article III. Read Article III.
Correct, PM, but the subject matter is the 14th Amendment.
Yeah
Lawyer stuff hurts all four of my brain cells. I hear tell that the husband has been offered millions to give custody to the parents but he won’t take it. Could be a total control-freak wife beater bent on murder. Could be a loving husband trying to do what she asked. Wouldn’t think that it would be so hard to discern between the two.
It is a challenge, Ana.
For Christ’s sake! Did we not understand Jeff’s subtle hint that you should go elsewhere if you wanted to opine on the Schiavo thing? We’re supposed to be talking about Alan Colmes creamy, white ass!
Ms. Harris,
I really am not sure what you’re talking about. I was commenting regarding ahem‘s assertion that this kind of case is the result of the “world of the Living Will”, while I think it’s a result of the fact that we have loads of hospitals and medical options. That’s really about all I was saying.
However, your opposition to being starved to death is duly noted. I’ll keep that in mind when I rule the universe.
I suggest going to BlogsForTerri if you want to really see why (via evidence) many of us are disgusted by the push to kill the poor woman. Even a few liberals understand what’s important about it. I won’t get into it here but I’ll engage anyone’s arguments that she should die–elsewhere.
Well folks, Terri is not brain dead, not on life support, and not suffering a terminal illness.
There are a lot of inconvenient people that fit that category. Like most people.
So where do you draw the line?
This is less about personal preferences then it is about safeguarding the people against the power of the state to authorize ending someone’s life.
Needless, the husband claiming spousal guardianship lives with another woman with whom he has fathered two children. What would any wife, much less Terri, say about the logic of the state relying upon the sanctity of their marrital contract in regard to the fulfilment of his responsibility as a spousal guardian? For that matter, what should men say this?
Tom v G posts:
Sean Hannity does not actually think; he reads and remembers lists of things he’s read. And he repeats them. Endlessly. And Alan sits there – grateful as hell.
Although I perceive Tom to not be of my ilk, I’m afraid he’s right on this one. Hannity’s tendency is to memorize talking points and then hammer the crap out of them.
No one walks W’s line like Hannity.
Colmes is a former country disc jockey from WHN/New York who just got lucky. He has to be grateful as hell. Hard to imagine a Jewish guy spinning Willie Nelson records.
I’ll have more respect for Sean when he jumps on the correct side of illegal immigration.
As an aside, are we sure the new Dusty girl is legal? She looks like a JV cheerleader. Which, by the way, is just fine with me.