Listen, Hobbits: who are you going to believe: your own lying eyes and ears, or those very sophisticated and better-educated journalism and English Majors who are going to pretend to sniff at your pedestrian inability to fully glean the very obvious and blazing subtext necessary to completely invert what Obama said into what he truly meant — which, duh, you guntoting dullards, is perfectly in keeping with the kind of full-throated embrace of a free-market capitalist message that the President in every other instance, in every other political incarnation, and through every one of his policies and actions routinely (albeit less transparently) rejects?
We await your apology. Wingnuts.
(h/t geoff b)
Heh. Now that’s the way to do consent of the governed! Bravo, Barry. Bravo leftists.
Words mean what progressives say they mean, no more, no less.
Huh? So Taintor’s elaborate, terse, urgent timeline constitutes what OBarry said.
Boy’s good.
Because you didn’t create the entire universe in which your small business exists, you get zero credit.
I think Reason is misreading Taintor’s column, which was really just a long, rambling critique of how long it takes Romney’s people to get up to speed.
That’s the way I heard it, Slart. That’s the way most people who are not progressives heard it. Well, I think progressives heard it that way too, but they also believe it to be true.
Heh.
I’m confused by the reasoning of the cognoscenti (which is only to be expected since I’m a bitter-clinger.)
Time and again the Wonce goes out and shows his ass and tells us what he really thinks of America and our ideals and beliefs, thus forcing his handlers to go out en masse to bat clean-up for him and snottily assert that if we were just a tad bit brighter *sniff* we’d know what he meant and that it’s all good, you stupid idiots.
For a guy with a quadruple digit IQ, he says a lot of really dumb things.
If you really want to know what he meant, in context, the preceding paragraph clears it right up:
What he meant was what he said. Does Baracky own all the failures as well as the successes?
Oh, wait. Commies never fail. Just ask them.
I wonder how this argument would work on him when it’s explained to him that he didn’t earn that Nobel.
Something like this would have had me outraged – had I not been learning from Jeff all these years. Now, all I can do is sigh and shake my head. Intentionalsim – learn it, love it, live it.
…So I’ll bite: What should we believe he said, other than what he in fact said?
The popularization of Derridaian post-modernism since the 1990s has generally been a lot of fun, turning mainstream Americans into sharp observers of signs and meaning who are sure that either there’s nothing outside the text or everything is outside the text or both. But at some point it helps to look at that thing above the subtext, which is generally known as “the text.”
Hey… Jeff Goldstein built that.
Or even Intentionalism while you are at it.
George – my (incorrectly spelled) point exactly!
Dave Weigel is trying to build the case for Obama via “missing clauses & sentences”
Funny as I just read David Thompson’s piece on invisible art.
Talk about blank canvases …
Oh, btw, just got on to check email & headlines while finishing morning coffee. My substitute for dead-tree editions. Hubby and I are on vacation in Cambria this week. Will be back come this weekend.
Sounds like fun! Have a great time!
Hey, isn’t Weigel the pet lawn jockey for “conservatism” at the WaPo? I remember distinctly Ed Morrissey calling him a “nice guy.” ‘Nuff said.
He was until the Daily Caller exposed Journolist. Now it’s the frighteningly staunch Jen Rubin.
Taranto
You didn’t build that.
Jennifer Rubin: When Romney’s boots need a polish, always call on an ex-labor lawyer from Berkeley.
motionview says July 19, 2012 at 11:03 am
You didn’t build that.
Little Section 8 Housing on the Communal Prairie.
It is telling that in his great, emotional response to “You didn’t build that”, Romney says:
He must consider his young life’s work is a trap; who among us would not have said
I know, I know, he’d never say damn proud.
Give him time, Gene. I’m starting to warm up to the boy.
Next his supporters will start quoting Cashill as a definitive defense which will be fun.
Probably should have used this link.
Your success belongs to the state; consequently, the fruits of your success belong to the state. By the way, about those presents on your wedding registry. . .
“Next his supporters will start . . . ”
Heh, I too was recollecting a recent article I’d read (can’t recall where) which set out to demonstrate how poor a speaker Obama actually is based on his apparent inability to achieve subject verb agreement in simple matters like number, so it’s little surprise he’d fail in other aspects of grammatical speech. Obama’s a fucking moron, after all, so this avenue looks to be a perfect leftists’ defense.
Obama’s a fucking moron, after all, so this avenue looks to be a perfect leftists’ defense.</I.
Agreed. It makes me crazy to listen to him speak. It doesn't matter what the setting is, either. It might be a formal interview, a speech, an aw-shucks interview—the man is an idiot. It's not just subject-verb agreement, although that is grating, it is the constant straining at "authenticity". "Folks", "You all", "Gonna", "Gotta", and my personal favorite "you've got to________" I don't "got" to do anything, Barry. You need to get yourself into a remedial English class.
Stupid html.
Give him time, Gene. I’m starting to warm up to the boy.
Glenn Beck declares that Barack Obama has made Glenn a better American, because Obama’s provoked him to study, strive, and stretch.
Maybe Obama is having the same effect on Romney. As Mazer Rackham said: there’s no better teacher than the enemy.
It’s amusing to see all the TPM commentors scream that Obama was taken out of context and then helpfully post the rest of his statements… which only reinforce that “you didn’t build that business” WAS the correct context.
Though it is disturbing to see the number of people who buy into the whole “government builds the roads & bridges so you do owe them for that” crap. Entitlement Nation is a very dumb and ill-informed place.
What all the “Obama was taken out of context you dirty wingers” apologists are failing to notice is that no one at the White House is issuing any “corrections” to Obama’s speech, nor are they making the “context” argument.
Hubby and I are on vacation in Cambria this week.
So last week, you were pre-Cambrian?
And may I just say that TP Memo is an appropriate name for that place.
“All the leftist thought worthy of being put on a long, continuous roll and placed conveniently next to the toilet for proper disposition”
I sort of suspected you were an easy lay,
he said sarcastically,
I doesn’t grate for me, I just find it comical. Like Hillary finding different accents for different audiences or the classic from John F’ing Kerry.
In your dreams, Ernst. ;-)
Geoff, what I find amusing about the Wonce is his sycophants straining at gnats to “explain” what the brilliant orator just told us.
I heard what he just told us, chump. You don’t need to translate it into Leftspeak for me.
discussing this with husband this morning … and he pointed out that Obama and acolytes have it all backwards
the State owes it existence (and its infrastructure) to the business people. Money has no value except where the producers give it. Gov. monopoly may print it, but its only value (outside burning it for warmth) is what the market place says it is.
Every leader on the left is always a brilliant orator, hell a brilliant any/every-thing. It just follows from their having to be perfect as I wrote at the pub back when it was around and tweeted recently.
The state takes our money in taxes, they hands it back to us to build roads and bridges. They do nothing, really, but allocate. And they are supposed to be doing so in a way that is not biased or partisan. As Mark Levin pointed out, Hitler’s Germany, or modern-day North Korea have roads and bridges, too. And yet somehow, the US is different…
no one at the White House is issuing any “corrections” to Obama’s speech, nor are they making the “context” argument.
I stand corrected. The Obama/Biden Trooth Teem does have a video out claiming that “Obama didn’t say that”, and then at the 0:40 second mark they include a clip of Obama saying exactly what Romney said he said.
Obama’s only losing because he’s too Cool™ for the room.
Stupid sovereign electorate.
There’s a lot in that one sentence that peeves me off, but this idea of “giving something back” really rankles me. If for no other reason than the gifts I receive come from God, not government.
This is what damage control on the Bismarck must have looked like after Rodney and King George V opened up.
So yes, I am enjoying every minute of this.
By Andrew Stuttaford
July 19, 2012 12:59 P.M.
Via Ayn Rand (Atlas Shrugged):
“He didn’t invent iron ore and blast furnaces, did he?”
“Who?”
“Rearden. He didn’t invent smelting and chemistry and air compression. He couldn’t have invented his Metal but for thousands and thousands of other people. His Metal! Why does he think it’s his? Why does he think it’s his invention? Everybody uses the work of everybody else. Nobody ever invents anything.”
She said, puzzled, “But the iron ore and all those other things were there all the time. Why didn’t anybody else make that Metal, but Mr. Rearden did?”
The mistake Carnegie made was he just went out and paid for libraries for any podunk village in the middle of nowhere what wanted one. If he’d have given all that money to the government so that bureaucrats could dole it out to communities actually deserving of public libraries*, he’d have been a hero of the people instead of a robber baron trying to ease his guilty conscience.
*Never mind the fact that there wouldn’t have been near as many libraries. We can’t have people thinking they should do things for themselves instead of relying on the government man to do it for them1
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia
There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back.
I suspect there are far, far more of them who think you are full of shit, Mr. President, and that they already give (and have given) quite enough, thank you.
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.
Well, that is a truism, and fairly uninformative. But no, the point is, that is not what Dear Leader said, and it isn’t what he meant.
Except that’s not what he said, as motionview has already reminded us.
Fucking tool.
Agreed. Because if somebody does want to “give back”, I trust they can figure out how to do that without a government bureaucrat or twelve taking their cut.
Who’s point is that Zachriel, Obama’s or yours? Because that may be what you choose to interpret his words to have meant, but what the President said was
Fucking tool.
I like the cut of this Schreiber’s jib.
Just as I respect any man secure enough in his masculinity to wear a skirt, Silver Whistle
The 48% + of my income that I’m paying yearly right now including ALL taxes and fees isn’t giving back? Fuck you chump!
With lots of pleats, and no knickers, Ernst. Just remember that.
Just like a good Catholic School girl, eh?
The ones I remember, aye.
Rather breezy that, SW.
heh
A good draft keeps foul humours at bay, leigh.
he pointed out that Obama and acolytes have it all backwards
As if anything Obama and the Left say were intended to communicate one’s beliefs about TRVTH or reality.
From Insty:
The only thing we need to be talking about relative to “you didn’t do that” is the implied (soon to be explicit) THEREFORE. That’s not really yours, THEREFORE, we’re entitled to take it from you. Stop picking apart the “logic” and cut to the chase.
That includes you, Mitt. Here’s hoping you twig to the THEREFORE before it’s too late.
Who is this “we”?
Listen, useful idiot: we know what he said and what know what he meant. We know it because its standard Marxist boilerplate and he’s a Marxist.
More, we know what it is people like you are up to, and what the end game is: people who share your beliefs in control of every aspect of our lives.
Fuck you. It ain’t happening to my family on my watch.
I like that they’re trying to suggest that he didn’t give a perfect elucidation of his demented left wing worldview, but, rather, that he was wasting his and his audience’s time by giving a speech so vapid that it’s beneath the viewership of Sesame Street. Nice set of options: Barack Obama, leftist trainwreck of a president. Or, Barack Obama, here to tell you that businessmen had crossing guards on their way to elementary school.
You do the fucking tool too much credit Jeff.
He’s too witting to be an idiot.
Not everyday you run across such high grade pablum.
Are you sure the point isn’t that the best way to pull yourself up by your bootstraps is with a helping hand? Maybe the point is that it takes a village to be an individual. No, wait, I think it’s that all snowflakes are unique but what makes America exceptional is how all those unique snowflakes are combined into snowmen.
I always wonder about the target audience for such weak shit. Does Zach buy this and so passes it along as an actual rebuttal? Does Zach not buy this but thinks we’re stupid? Has pw been identified as having a huge number of moderate lurkers with paint-huffing issues?
Why do you say such things, Zach?
Somebody enjoys him some “Sesame Street.”
It’s not easy luring fresh meat in here; can’t y’all play with your food a bit?
Hey Zach
Which came first? The airport or the airplane?
– The Wonce doesn’t give a rats ass about “success” or “rich” or any of it. He’s acting solely as the pres of a certain demographic. He is not my president and he makes that clear every time he speaks.
– That is what is going on, and he coaches it all, all the preferential talk and actions, in Marxist class warfare rhetoric. And his “other” gaggle, the morons on the left, support him to their own demise.
– He will never be my president, hes made that unmistakingly clear.
That is absolutely astounding. Either they’re brain damaged, or they’re convinced enough voters are.
Maybe this is the part where they try to convince us that we’re insane.
Hauling losers and deadbeats around isn’t one of those things. Moonshots, yes. Food stamps, no.
Reminds me of part of Arthur Dent’s saga:
New Ulsterman Report is up.
Exerpt:
I wonder if Zach would acknowledge that, if he can wish Obama’s words were other than what they are, we might legitimately hear Obama’s speech as:
The problem, Zachriel, is “we” actually don’t do alot of things together. In fact, there’s a substantial portion of the population that produces nothing and leeches an existence off the producers. I realize its not PC to say but there are alot of useless, lazy greedy people out there, who are quite content to eat at the government trough. Those people generally vote for democrats, because democrats continue to enable their parasitic nature.
After waiting a full week, Pres. Obama finally comes out to openly admit he’s a moron:
He’s still wrong. The private sector and our tax money did build the roads and bridges. The money for roads and bridges came from commerce and were meant to further commerce. So he’s wrong there, too.
Roads and bridges would be “them” not “that.” He lies. Again:
He said what he meant.
BTW, he wasn’t implying it. He said it.
“The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”
Silver Whistle: But no, the point is, that is not what Dear Leader said, and it isn’t what he meant.
Um, that’s exactly what he said.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia
Keeping company with morons is apparently a very popular behavior on the political left.
You didn’t link that, Zachriel. Somebody else made that happen.
This is his idea of digging out of a hole? What a fucking moron.
You don’t dig out of the hole, you double down and dig that sucker deeper.