But not everyone believes him — and in fact, Gingrich has some troubling legislative maneuvering in his past. From the conservative Gun Owners of America:
Prior to the “Republican Revolution” of 1994, Rep. Newt Gingrich of Georgia had earned an A rating with Gun Owners of America. But that all changed in 1995, after Republicans were swept to power and Gingrich became Speaker of the House.
The Republicans gained the majority, thanks in large part to gun owners outraged by the Clinton gun ban. And upon taking the reins of the House, Speaker Gingrich said famously that, “As long as I am Speaker of this House, no gun control legislation is going to move in committee or on the floor of this House and there will be no further erosion of their rights.”
His promise didn’t hold up, however, and his GOA rating quickly dropped to well below the “C-level.” In 1996, the Republican-led Congress passed the “gun free school zones act,” creating criminal safe zones like Virginia Tech, where the only person armed was a murderous criminal. Speaker Newt Gingrich voted for the bill containing this ban.[1]
The same bill also contained the now infamous Lautenberg gun ban, which lowered the threshold for losing one’s Second Amendment rights to a mere misdemeanor.[2] Gun owners could, as a result of this ban, lose their gun rights forever for non-violent shouting matches that occurred in the home — and, in many cases, lose their rights without a jury trial.
While a legislator might sometimes vote for a spending bill which contains objectionable amendments, that was clearly NOT the case with Newt Gingrich in 1996. Speaking on Meet the Press in September of that year, Speaker Gingrich said the Lautenberg gun ban was “a very reasonable position.”[3] He even refused to cosponsor a repeal of the gun ban during the next Congress — despite repeated requests to do so.[4]
Also in 1996, Speaker Gingrich cast his vote for an anti-gun terror bill which contained several harmful provisions. For example, one of the versions he supported (in March of that year) contained a DeLauro amendment that would have severely punished gun owners for possessing a laser sighting device while committing an infraction as minor as speeding on a federal reservation.[5] (Not only would this provision have stigmatized laser sights, it would have served as a first step to banning these items.) Another extremely harmful provision was the Schumer amendment to “centralize Federal, State and Local police.”[6]
Final passage of H.R. 3610, Sept. 28, 1996 at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll455.xml .
Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) warned his colleagues about the hidden dangers in H.R. 3610, and in regard to the Kohl ban, noted that it would “prohibit most persons from carrying unloaded firearms in their automobiles.”
See Gingrich’s vote at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll455.xml .
[3] Associated Press, “Gingrich Favors Handgun Ban for Domestic Abuse Convicts,” Deseret News, Sept. 16, 1996. The full quote reveals how much Speaker Gingrich had adopted the anti-gunners’ line of thinking: “I’m very much in favor of stopping people who engage in violence against their spouses from having guns,” the Georgia Republican said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I think that’s a very reasonable position.” But the fact that this gun ban covers misdemeanors in the home is primary evidence that NON-violent people have been subjected to lifetime gun bans for things like: shouting matches, throwing a set of keys in the direction of another person, spanking a child, etc.
[4] See H.R.1009, “States’ Rights and Second and Tenth Amendment Restoration Act of 1997,” introduced by Rep. Helen Chenoweth (R-ID).
H.R. 2703, March 14, 1996 at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll066.xml .
S. 735, April 18, 1996 at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll126.xml .
Newt lies to gun owners, telling them he would protect their rights, and ensure no gun control legislation would see the light of day on his watch, then proceeds to push through some of the most radical gun control laws in our nation’s history. Can you trust this man?
No.
Gingrich, like Romney, appears to favor government solutions when he believes the popular will supports them — and oftentimes the “pragmatic” solutions that result weaken conservatism itself by restricting freedoms and expanding both the scope (ethanol subsidies, cap and trade) and power of government itself.
I noted a while back that, though Gingrich is smart enough to be a very successful movement conservative, his real problem is that he is also smart enough to be a very successful big government Republican — and that his impulses seem to shift in accordance to his situation: campaigning, he expresses conservative viewpoints; but as a legislator, he’s been difficult to trust.
At this point, Bachmann,and Santorum seem much more committed ideological conservatives. And though I relish the idea of Gingrich debating Obama, I think both Bachmann and Santorum would perform equally well. Perry, too, would be a safer conservative choice than Gingrich (though I do still have several concerns), with his executive experience and the success of his state speaking well for him.
Unfortunately, though, he hasn’t been able to speak well for himself. And that’s a concern going up against a cynical and eager propagandist like President Obama.
Discuss.
The only conservative running for the office of President is Ron Paul. He’s the only candidate with a perfect, consistent record of voting against every, single piece of gun control legislation every offered to the house.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I was on the fence about whether I would vote for Newt. Now I’m sure I won’t.
I wish Santorum hadn’t been marginalized so much. I think he would make a fine candidate. It’s still possible for his star to rise once the hammering on Newt starts, but it’s increasingly unlikely. Frankly, once Cain quit I stopped thinking we had a prayer. I don’t mean “we” as in Republicans, because who cares about that? I mean “we” as classical liberals.
Doom, baybee. Doom.
So he’s another “read my lips” conservative.
Santorum videos at TOM.
I’m leaning more towards supporting Gingrich than I was just a half-hour ago. But that’s because I’m listening to Rush and it’s become obvious that Newt gives both sides of the Establishment fits, and letely I’m in a pox on both your houses sort of mood.
Newt’s alright but we need to use these debates to pin him down on more than just the immigrants.
Via Drudge, Princess Nancy says she’ll have her say.
A vote for a Big Government Republican is a vote for Big Government.
The most important thing is to get rid of stupid rapey Obama, cause he holds America down every day and shits in her mouth.
It’s a thing.
Romney’s your guy then.
No Happy, it’s not. It like you purposely miss the entire point of this site.
No Newt for me, thanks.
Marry in haste, repent at leisure, as we found with those who embraced the Obama.
I’m keeping my powder dry.
I’m honestly not familiar with Gun Owners of America. They don’t happen to think the NRA plays too nice by any chance, do they?
sdferr is that not an admission that she intends to violate House rules? Maybe a law? Does Crazy Aunt Nancy understand why she was locked in that room in an undisclosed location for a year? And BTW who the fuck let her out?
I didn’t know a magician’s card force was possible in politics. But there he is.
no Mr. 308 – it is you and this site that are in the wrong then
Barack Obama wants to leave America a bloody sobbing unrecognizable mess.
Newt doesn’t.
And as I love my country I shall stand with him should he be the nominee.
David Gregory gave Axelrod a clean shot at Newt yesterday and Axe passed. Nancy as usual is out of the loop; The Team needs everyone to hold fire on Newt until after the nomination but before the implosion. Axe also only gave Romney the mildest of flip-flopper slaps after Gregory helpfully showed their last attack ad on Romney.
House Rules exist to protect the righs of Democrats. In this case, violating Gingrich’s rights does that.
Romney will be the candidate, sorry.
I guess I’m a Santorum guy now for now, though I put his chances of making to the California primaries where I can vote for him about the same as the national debt going down by the California primaries.
Romney will probably pick Jindal for VP. I’m sure the establishment is eager to destroy him, before he gets too big for his britches.
I can see it now, SNL, Letterman, Stewart, and the rest will have great fun joking about which ones religion is wackier.
I always make a point of choosing ungabunga over death by ungabunga m’self.
I never choose ungy bungy
Well, it’s not rape if you give away, is it?
well the important thing is to write you main ideas on index cards
Write on your hand instead. You can’t lose that.
great tip
Just don’t get caught looking at your notes —pruf you’re too stoopid to be Prezinet.
I thought Gingrich would be a good VP pick…for a real conservative president. It’s ‘cuz of the difference between smart and wise.
Which is why I don’t want him to be Romney’s VP…
I’ll write that first
I’ll agree with Lee.
We can ask Mr. Newt if he would support this. It’s an easy states’ rights rights over the plate pitch I think.
But not for Romney cause he’s s perverted statist whore.
rightsBobby Jindal is a Roman Catholic, Lee. He just looks like Apu at the Quickie Mart.
“But not for Romney cause he’s s perverted statist whore.”
I’m sure his answer would be a variation on the Kerry model he favors. “I was for it before I was against it.”
As for Newt, any answer he gives is suspect, so why bother.
Here, let’s revisit this very post!
I just wish Ron Paul had something to say about foreign policy. I’m not a huge fan of the stuff, mind you, but having one is always a handy idea for a POTUS.
Roddy, Ron Paul is against foreign policy. ‘Nuff said.
“Bobby Jindal is a Roman Catholic”
So?
Say, did you know Palin believes humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time and the world is only 5000 years old?
Wacky Christianists…
I’ve been giving Santorum a second look lately myself.
Santorum has that creepy stepford family
The only question about Newt is, does he know what year it is?
Does he still think it’s 1995, and wonky pragmatism will do?
Or does he know it’s 2011, and various proggie edifices need to crumble?
campaigning, he expresses conservative viewpoints; but as a legislator, he’s been difficult to trust.
Well, if he’s smart enough to know how to articulate the conservative viewpoint, he’s smart enough to know when to violate it in practice.
If only you Visigoths would get that inside your thick skulls, as if “What’s in your wallet?” were a real concern.
plus have you ever googled his name?
ewwww!
Santorum has that creepy stepford family
In ‘feetspeek, “creepy” = “reeks of that Jesus stuff summat awful”
Santorum has that creepy stepford family
What’s creepy an stepford about Santorum’s family, ‘feets?
Did he go beyond the 2.2 children allotted by the Bobo Family Research Council?
Can we register your “Eek! A Catholic!” as noted already?
I dunno
Yes, Lee. I am aware of the cheap shot campaign run by Jindal’s opponent, good ole whatshisname the not-now governor of Louisiana.
And if Mrs. Palin believes that dinosaurs and peoples lived at the same time and that the Earth is only 5,000 years old, she’s out of her bump-it haired head.
Have you ever had your mouth full of Dan Savage’s cock?
Andrew, I called them a creepy Stepford family years ago when that picture first appeared. It doesn’t have anything to do with how many children he has. I know a lot of Catholic families who have more kids and they are not Stepford-y in the least.
“And if Mrs. Palin believes that dinosaurs and peoples lived at the same time and that the Earth is only 5,000 years old, she’s out of her bump-it haired head”
Did you know Herman Cain sexually harassed five women?
That’s an Awkward Family Photo to be sure, of an exhausted cohort after how many hours straight of campaign appearances?
And it’s probative of what, exactly?
And if Mrs. Palin believes that dinosaurs and peoples lived at the same time and that the Earth is only 5,000 years old, she’s out of her bump-it haired head.
Might want to verify that one. Like the “I can see Russia from my house!” quip, it could come from Tina Fey or other comedians (counting the MSM).
And it’s 6,000 years since Adam, plus 7,000 for each creation “day,” by their calculations.
Ah. So that only leaves my first question unanswered.
Link to picture? I wanna see what creepy stepfordy looks like.
“I am aware of the cheap shot campaign run by Jindal’s opponent”
I knew you would be.
“I called them a creepy Stepford family years ago when that picture first appeared”
I believe you.
Or does he know it’s 2011, and various proggie edifices need to crumble?
If he’s just mouthing the words then he has me fooled.
Say what you want about his ability to ‘compromise’ (mainly because it is true…) but even when he’s gone against his words he’s never struck me as particularly slick about it. Every time he’s paid a price, and I think he recognizes that.
Besides, regardless of who opposes Obama the real action is going to be in winning back the Senate and making the remaining RINOs nervous about their future.
Link is in ‘feets’s “I dunno.”
I linked at #43 Mr. Andrew
In other 2nd amendment related news.
“Might want to verify that one.”
That might be wise, but not smart.
Ah, sorry, feets. I didn’t see that.
The pic is blocked at work. Lemme get home.
Depending on your agenda I mean…
Might want to verify that one.
I know, di. It’s just that my step-daughter does believe the YEC rhetoric. And she, too, lives in Wasilla. They’re out there, the Non-denominationals who make it up as they go along.
“Might want to verify that one.””
I know, lets take a walk down memory lane!
Oh, looky, Jeff included a link.
I don’t particularly give a shit if someone believes Adam walked with dinosaurs, or The Flood carved out the Grand Canyon, or The Exorcist is a documentary, or Jesus and Satan are brothers. Because I don’t see how those views are relevant to their views on the Euro crisis, or what we’re going to do about Iran or how we keep from losing the entire Middle East to the islamo-fascists, or repealing ObamaCare or breaking up and selling off eniire chunks of the sclerotic federal bureaucracy.
Or to put it another way, it’s not a question of “does he know that various proggie edifices need to crumble?” Rather it’s a question of does he know that various proggie edifices worldwide are crumbling? And does he want to slap up another layer of plaster and a fresh coat of paint, or does he want to get us the hell out of the building before it finally collapses?
My aunt and uncle live in Wasilla, too, and they aren’t young-earth creationists, though they are Christians.
They have the internet and everything there, you know.
And you, leigh, either have a really difficult time expressing yourself or are just a knee-jerk bigot. Or both. Time and again you have said things as questionable as what hf spews at times, yet you seem to want to be taken seriously. You buy into the progressive storyline whenever it suits you, yet claim you don’t when called on it.
It helps that your avatar, to my color-blind vision, is of similar intensity to happyfeet’s avatar.
i think if they know that the dinosaurs were extincted by the time the peoples came it’s like a bonus
Neither do I, Ernst. It is instructive to see what gets our fellows R’s knickers in a twist and how that leads to taking one’s eye off the ball and nominating geriatric lying traitors like McCain as the standard bearer for our glorious cause. Only to be beaten over the head like the fools that we be by guys who promise a pot of gold and a Chevy in every garage and a return to our glorious golden days of yore.
It’s a scream to watch the D’s on the news spinning their lies about a rainbow filled past that never was. These were the same characters who spent eight years shrieking about what an incompetent old fool Reagan was for harking back to the golden days of yore that never were.
Same as it ever was.
“it’s like a bonus”
Did you just hit on me?!
heavens to betsy
Peter Robinson put up a post at Ricochet yesterday, with what I thought were many interesting, though separable, aspects, first among which is the substance of the Michael Crichton quote that drew Robinson’s attention and formed the body of his post; secondarily, among other things, the hives displayed by his commenters at his use of “irreducible complexity” in his post title. A snippet of the Crichton quote, for the sake of reminding us of our approach toward the natural world — or nature — simply:
Belief in young-earth creationism doesn’t affect foreign or domestic policy.
Belief that CO2 is going to KILL US ALL UNLESS THE WORLD GUBMINTS CONSOLIDATE THEIR POWER OVER ALL ENERGY CONSUMPTION pretty much does.
Is the difference.
And you, leigh, either have a really difficult time expressing yourself or are just a knee-jerk bigot. Or both. Time and again you have said things as questionable as what hf spews at times, yet you seem to want to be taken seriously. You buy into the progressive storyline whenever it suits you, yet claim you don’t when called on it.
Citations for my bigotry and lack of prowess in expressing myself would be helpful, cranky.
BTW, my avatar is of Curious George. It’s a nod to my days as a child psychologist. You know, one of the not-really-a-science sciences that the non-bigots on this board and many others love to trash.
And don’t forget faith in TEH SCIENCE!!!, dicentra. Very important, that. Or was it The Cause™? I forgets, I does.
Speaking of AGW, here’s some onion-y food for thought:
h/t Planet Gore
I sort of wonder where a thing like #44 comes from, it having no basis in fact.
Every time he’s paid a price, and I think he recognizes that.
I doubt it. I very much doubt it. Remember his knock on Ryan’s plan, and his dissing the Tea Party not a year ago?
Besides, how high could that price have been if he’s now ahead in the polls? That which gets rewarded, etc.
Pablo, scroll up to #35. I was responding to Lee.
“Citations for my bigotry and lack of prowess in expressing myself would be helpful, cranky.”
Off the top of my head…
LONDON, Nov. 11 (UPI) — Rising energy demands could result in irreversible global warming by 2017 without strict new standards, an energy watchdog group said this week in London.
The International Energy Agency said in its latest World Energy Outlook, released Wednesday, that a “remarkable” 5 percent jump in global primary energy demand last year pushed greenhouse gas emissions to a new high due to the rebound of the world’s economies following the 2008 financial crisis.*
“I was responding to Lee”
And I thank you for making my point for me in #44…
Lee, I have explained to you before that we don’t all have to think alike. Indeed there is a thing called Groupthink that you may want to read up on.
when people smear their religious twaddle all over politics, it’s just distasteful, is what it is
Gotcha, leigh.
Thanks, Pablo.
when people smear their religious twaddle all over politics, it’s just distasteful, is what it is
Especially when the opposition decides what the “religious twaddle” is, such as attributing to Palin beliefs that she does not hold.
Leigh, Respectfully, I think you make too much of the So Con power and influence issue. Huckabee is a moderate R with a deep evangelical streak and a Southern accent; Santorum is old timey ethnic traditional values Catholic.
Mostly though, Pablo and LBascom are reacting to you out of annoyance at the clogging, bordering on hatred, that HappyFeet has for So Cons or, literally, any GOP’ers who express their faith in a political context. So when they perceive you heading down that path….
I don’t think you’re that, FWIW.
They’re not bad sorts.
Palin is just an answer to a trivial pursuit question anymore
nicely said Mr. mcgruder person
Jeff, one thing I haven’t seen given much consideration in the Newt assessments is his status as an extremely effective former Speaker. He probably did more damage to the Leftist hegemony than any other man in the past fifty years when he broke their stranglehold on the House. Further, people forget that it’s going to take more than a magic wand to break Obamacare. Newt has the knowlege and ability to pull it out by its roots. He also has the knowlege to effectively attack the oppressive leftist legislative web that has been growing ever since the last time we put a Speaker in the White House.
That guy was Lyndon Baines Johnson, and idiots think he was a failure because he was a one term president thanks to Vietnam. But he managed to cram the huge Great Society package through a congress that was much more conservative than the one we have today, and we are still trying to cope with the malign ramifications of that legislation.
None of the other GOP candidates even come close to having Newt’s proven abilities and understanding when it comes to the political/legislative process in this country. The real question is, as you not, not so much whether he can do what is necessary, it is whether he will.
But what is Newt going to be effective at?
I can easily see him NOT going after Obamacare hammer and tongs because he deems it impracticable to do so, and besides, why listen to them ignernt rednecks when he’s so damned clever?
Newt must limit Newt, cain’t nobody else do it.
‘twould be a boon, for instance, I think, if Newt could find three, maybe four, essential proposals for American recovery, run on them, find an honest mandate from the people, a mandate based in understanding and assent. Problem is, Newt is more likely to run on a jumbled soup of whatever and whenever issues grab his attention, muddying at once both the problems the country faces and the public’s understanding of his proposals to address them when he takes office (if, he takes office). Self-control, sadly, is not his long suit.
Thanks, Roddy. It’s quite possible that I do make too much of the SoCons. That said, I myself have a Southern accent and am also a Catholic in a state, Oklahoma, that is largely populated by Baptists. Indeed, my mother’s uncle was a tent revivalist back in the ’40s who made the circuit “healing” people and fleecing them of their dollars and frolicing with their wimmins.
The Baptists who live around me make no bones about how my children and I are going straight to Hell and remind us about it at every opportunity. That is, unless we change our evil statue worshipping ways. Talking to them about our faith is pointless, as I have tried many times to do so.
I don’t dislike anyone on this board. It is my nature to be curious about why people think what they do and how they got there. It rubs some the wrong way, but so be it.
Thank you again for your kind words, Roddy.
three, maybe four, essential proposals for American recovery
yes this way he won’t be so tempted to carry on about the joys of child labor
I really don’t want to spend my time searching for cites, leigh. I saw a lot from you that I ignored at the time your wrote it since you were new here. So, instead, I will point them out as they come. I’m sure there will be more examples, beyond the “she lives in Wasilla, too,” remark you made in this thread.
if you can’t police your own speech leigh we’ll just have to do it for you
I certainly wasn’t saying that everyone who lives in Wasilla is a YEC, cranky. My husband lived in Alaska for many years when he was in charge of the Tactical Nap of the Earth Program.
I was trying to be funny and I failed.
if you can’t police your own speech leigh we’ll just have to do it for you
Aha! You have vays of making me say things the way you want them, eh? I better watch my p’s and q’s.
Acht. Tag fail.
It helps that your avatar, to my color-blind vision, is of similar intensity to happyfeet’s avatar.
Now now. Libtarded thinking isn’t the same thing as fucking idiocy.
Leigh has been made sane, so there’s some hope. Whereas happyfeet is so sane it hurts.
Like a bullet to the back of the head.
Ach du lieber indeed!
Well, shoot. Now I broke the blog. How do I fix that? Anybody?
Three Hail Marys and Four Our Fathers should do the trick.
Thank you, Fr. sdferr. I have sinned.
I was chuckling at your comment about your uncle, the itinerant vibrating revivalist, when I noticed the bit about your kids.
That’s ashame. I hope you or your husband, in a really clear way, suggest to the next set of Southern Baptists that tell you your kids are going to hell to politely cease that topic, that you’ve had enough, and that it’s going to happen NOW.
Odd. I am a from a very, very RC background–altarboy, high school, Jesuit college–but am now evangelical, of a stripe. I have never heard anyone here in Southern NC say a single cross word about Catholics or their church, other than to note that most of their congregations are full of EX-Catholics.
It has to be an Oklahoma thing.
uummm.
Italics? Fix….now….please.
See leigh, this is the kinda thing I’m talking about, and while it’s happyfeet that said it, it’s the kinda statement you are prone to.
Child labor laws are under discussion in the legislature right now, new ones being proposed, that will force farmers to stop teaching their kids how to run the damn farm, among other things.
Newt comments on it, the left frames Newts response as wanting child slave labor or something, and happyfeet is right in there propagating the meme, truth be damned, full steam with the agenda.
It’s subtle…nuanced you might say, but it’s there.
And it ain’t groupthink to comment on it.
Oh cool, another one. Lemme fix: if you can’t police your own
speechreligionleighchristianists we’ll just have to do it for youTim Groseclose, in a comment at Ricochet:
Errant tag lassoed and forced to learn PC from Hoopti Goldborg.
I recall a Southern Baptist who was (technically, but not actually) my superior in the AF and was prone to proclaiming that my Catholic upbringing would land me in Hell. I liked nothing better than watching his fat sissy face turn red when I’d tell him “Well, I guess I’ll see you there!”
Mr. Newt was talking about the joys of child labor before the farm thing ever came out
it was a stupid own goal
changing child labor laws is not gonna move the dial on our ass-raped bleeding out economy
it was a small-bore namby pamby idea that served as a distraction from the Real Issues
I suppose leigh, that you could try telling your very concerned about your soul Baptist neighbors that they’ll be joining you there for reading from a Catholic book on Sundays.
We should focus more on the joys of child labor because the joys of sucking titty come naturally. The work thing needs teaching.
Yup. “But for the tasty cupcakes there go we.” -feets, 2011. It’s like leprosy to this one.
fucking idiot
Who said anything about changing child labor laws?
cupcakes are a sometimes food
Stop right there. “Child labor”, like dozens of scary words crafted by left for the purpose of dividing and conquering, isn’t. It’s what LBascom implied in #103: A rhetorical fulcrum to leverage upcoming generations out of the farm — and out of normal — and to put something, anything there by way of a government with no legitimate fucking right to extend its hand anywhere near the private sector.
That, feets, is an ass-raping.
I was shingling at 13. That was not child fucking labor.
Entire generations of children that have never seen an honest fucking dime earned in their entire lives, let alone been given a clue as to how to make one? Nah, that’s got nothing to do with our problems.
What feets may forget is that 535 lying thieving SOBs in a far-away place have no right to tell him what tasty bacon-wrapped nougat centers to consume with only one hand on the wheel of what I presume is his diesel Dodge dualie.
Until they do.
Ditto raising your kids to work a farm.
Mr. Gingrich said child labor laws are stupid, simple as that, and he handed the media a bludgeon. And he did it in pursuit of a policy idea that will make no fucking difference whatsoever to arresting our pathetic little country’s rapid slide into unsustainable failshittery.
He needs to be smarter than that.
if it’s such a great idea why don’t any of the other candidates jump on board the child labor bonanza wagon?
Roddy and Ernst, I tell the errant Baptists that we will pray for them. In the south this is akin to insulting one’s mother’s virtue.
It’s telling that the Baptists cannot seem to get along with one another. Brother Larry gets pissed off at Brother Jimmy and starts his own splinter church and takes all his family and friends with him. Rinse and repeat until there is a church on every corner.
——————–
JHo, thanks for using your html-fu.
You didn’t even have me until that part, feets.
“Mr. Newt was talking about the joys of child labor before the farm thing ever came out”
Bullshit. They’ve been talking about requiring a class A licence to drive farm tractors in private fields since at least last spring.
That is what Newt was talking about, the trend to outlaw any minor working whether they want to or not. It ain’t about Newt wanting to force children to work, it’s about proggs telling them it’s forbidden.
Because it’s
?
You need to be smarter than that. Oh, and to pop that “bonanza” shit on anyone to the right of Mikey Moore.
You’re a fickle fucking idiot to boot
Mr. Newt was not talking about driving tractors here is where he started yammering about the joys of child labor and he’s definitely not talking about farming
I’ve never ever seen a minor who wasn’t entirely spiritually invested in the responsibilities his dastardly anti-cupcake farming plight presented him.
Out of doors and caring and tending and yes, working. Evil as it all is.
Mr. Ernst … time has shown us that Mr. Newt is the brightest most capable individual in a sad hapless group of amiable dunces chippie-fuckers and white trash religious nuts that is not named Mitt Romney.
I will proudly support Mr. Gingrich and his tacky slut wife in their pursuit of the presidency.
I can see Gingrich going for a compromise position, where the USDA says they won’t send subsidy checks to farmers under the age of 16.
No audio on this puter, feets.
Oops.
Funny, I did odd jobs back in school myself. Loved it.
Even with the obvious emotional scarring and four lost digits. And the gruel and lashings.
Oh, and to pop that “bonanza” shit on anyone to the right of Mikey Moore.
I haven’t the slightest idea what you mean Mr. Howard. What I mean to say is that if changing child labor laws is such an awesome idea at this time why don’t the other candidates hop on board with it?
My wife’s family is Catholic/Lutheran. You should have seen all the angry Baptist relatives of her brother-in-law at her sister’s wedding reception.
(There was DANCING!)
White trash religious nuts? You realize that you’re talking about people with far more real-world experience, success, and class than you could ever dream of achieving, right? I mean, I know for a fact that one of these “white trash religious nuts” is a very successful lawyer who owns a very nice house on the edge of the country club. No trailers, cars on blocks, or toothless uncles with shotguns to be seen.
I gotta say, happy — you’re enough to make me reconsider my agnosticism, if only to put more distance between me and you. I’ve already sworn never to eat another cupcake, nor to lust after eugenicists.
Yes. White trash religious nuts.
St. Paddy’s day has got to be a fun experience for the whole family, what with all that orange and green coming together in one place. You won’t see that many people wearing orange and green at a Miami home game, I’d guess.
“Mr. Newt was not talking about driving tractors here is where he started yammering about the joys of child labor and he’s definitely not talking about farming”
So, that was the first and last time Newt mentioned child labor laws? OK. But still, to repeat myself,
it ain’t about Newt wanting to force children to work, it’s about proggs telling them it’s forbidden
And there has to be a long term concept when fixing the country, no? Also, see Pablo @#115.
Here’s one for ya, feets: Evil scarred fingerless JHo thinks having Sears and Walmart and McDonalds or whoever take over the urban educational wasteland and establish thousands of discount educational outlets would turn this failshit little ass-raped country around about as fast as anything you can think of. For-profit, in competition, and in exchange for every tax dime sent to the present system.
Bam. Reform and restoration before 12 months had passed, right where it’s needed. How? Making performance and outcome functional privileges instead of dysfunctional rights, obviously.
Now apply that core principle to your “child labor”: Make actual functional human behavior once again just that. With choice, a proper legal system, and most importantly, a mutually agreed, respectable, and results-oriented enterprise.
Hard? Sure. Necessary? Entirely. So it is with all things simply and essentially human that empower effort and results and isolate and kill the seven deadly sins.
If changing behavior is such an awesome idea at this time why don’t the proggs hop on board with it?
Oh.
That made me think of Hoss Cartwright, but Mikey would fall off the horse right away, I think.
So, that was the first and last time Newt mentioned child labor laws?
that was the first time in the campaign that I’m aware of
And there has to be a long term concept when fixing the country, no?
yes Mr. lee, BUT let’s start with the spendings and the obamacares and the oils and the regulations
… it’s like Mr. sdferr said:
‘twould be a boon, for instance, I think, if Newt could find three, maybe four, essential proposals for American recovery, run on them, find an honest mandate from the people, a mandate based in understanding and assent.
With enthusiasm like that, how can we fail?
Oh yeah, that’s right:
I guess the fact that our country’s still alive and bleeding from Barak Obama’ ass-raping must mean that, secretly, it enjoys the ass-rapings. Or at least, it didn’t do enough to resist, which amounts to the same thing. Maybe the country and Obama ought to stay together for four more years and try to make it work.
Mr. Howard the McDonald’s thing isn’t on the table at all. But it sounds like a worthy proposal.
But no I don’t think even a whole army of child janitors would even move the dial. It’s sort of a deck chairs on the titanic thing, given our little country’s desperate straits.
No Mr. Ernst Obama is a very bad man.
In that Groseclose thread, a fellow name of Nathaniel Wright observes:
And follows with:
Data extracted on: December 5, 2011 (4:48:25 PM)
The American people created 18 million new jobs during Republican control of the House from Jan 1995 through Jan 2007. 6.9 million private sector jobs were lost during Democrat control of the House, Jan 2007- Jan 2011. Since Republicans took House control back this January, the American people have created 1.6 million new private sector jobs.
Just saying. Newt might want to work these facts in while he has the media’s attention engaging Pelosi.
Why ya’ll letting the Moby run you around? If you’ll notice, despite all his bleatings about the “desperate straits” the country is in, his primary criteria for candidates are: male and sucks cock.
My god he’s catching on…as long as the absolute arbiters in the state-run press don’t get wind of it.
@happyfeet #117 – you really should stop reading Mediaite; they’re hyperventilating over there about everything Gingrich says.
cause it holds on tight in the bathtub and it clings in soapy suds!
I almost hurled, here, but then I read more closely and realized you were saying that the American people created jobs. Not the President. Not Congress. Not some bunch of overpaid, undertasked fuckwits suckling from the government teat. The American people is where jobs come from.
Thank you. It’s rare to see, these days.
mediaite is former MSNBC propaganda slut Dan Abram’s outfit
white trash religious nuts
Unlike the OWS morons, who are neither white, trashy, nutty, or “religious.”
Sorry, I was just reading back in that old thread where it was revealed that Dan Collins and Witheld were only about one degree separated. Got distracted.
OWS morons don’t even exist if you don’t talk about them
Unlike the OWS morons, who are neither white, trashy, nutty, or “religious.”
True. Sometimes my skin doesn’t know which way to crawl. It’s a very unpleasant sensation.
If it helps, the same folks what are sure Papists are going to hell are doubly sure the Mormons are going too.
The two Christian denominations that lay claim to the same priesthood of God are the least likely to fret about the ones who deny that priesthood entirely.
Strange, that. Maybe it’s an insecurity thing.
Nah slart. They’re all Scandis, the lot. Still too bloated from binging on Lutefisk and Lefsa three months earlier to give a shit about drinking with the Irish.
so anyway yeah I think it was pretty dumb for Mr. Newt to open up that child labor can of worms
And how wonderfully helpful is that, feets?
Childrens should labor. They’s gotten too plump.
I’m still scarred from my father calling me a spoiled suburban brat all throughout childhood, and I had a paper route!
Yes indeedy it is important to not talk about child labor. Even to the extent of not using up several dozen comments about it.
I’m here to serve
It isn’t a science. One simply cannot perform reliable scientific experiments that depend on the physical and emotional state of living beings because you get variable results depending on things you cannot control. The results are not always repeatable nor quantifiable. That’s because every person has a unique response to stimuli, and every person’s state changes continuously.
You can make generalizations, but that’s as far as you can go.
What you have specifically with clinical psychology is a set of tools that may or may not help someone. The person using those tools needs to adjust to the person being helped. It’s obvious that those tools can help a lot of people, but not every tool will work in every situation, and some will never work on a given person, outlier though he may be.
It’s an art, not a science. There is nothing wrong with that. I program computers for a living. That, too, is an art. I have had a few students who were frustrated because different people gave different answers on how to do the same thing in a program. That’s because there are many ways to do things, and no two programmers would ever write a program that does the same thing the same way unless it was trivial.
In other words, it’s an art.
I can create code that will run experiments that are repeatable and have quantifiable results. That would be science, as internally it would be consistent. Then it would be up to me to prove, if necessary, that my model is actually applicable to the real world. That’s what I did in grad school.
Most of the time, though, I’m doing art.
Why people who don’t practice a science (e.g. the social sciences, various flavors of “studies”) feel a need to elevate what they do to a science is beyond me, but it is a re-definition of the word “science” to fit their desire. That is an aspect of controlling the language, a hot subject around here.
I refuse to accept that definition.
Worm can opening is a job best left to
professionalsthe certified and credentialed.See, Mr Ernst, I grew up Catholic and married one of the Chosen Ones, aka Wisconsin Synod Lutherans.
They don’t say that out loud anymore, but in recent memory everyone but them was going to hell. Even Missouri Synod.
Ok, maybe not them. ELCA, though, were definitely crispy critters.
Short answer? Scientism.
“yes Mr. lee, BUT let’s start with the spendings and the obamacares and the oils and the regulations
“
So what, you think curbing the spendings will happen with a wave of the wand? Isn’t child labor laws regulation?
How about we let a couple million kids earn some money on their own, instead of expecting others to provide? The dividends of that lesson will be what turns the country around, not clever accounting in Washington.
Did you even try and capture what Newt was saying, or were you just listening for for something to criticize?
i understood perfectly what Mr. Newt was saying but there is a time and a place for discussing the rollback of child labor laws
Happyfeet is speaking as a man of Marketing Science!
I don’t think he was listening at all. I think he’s parroting what he heard from people listening just for something to criticize.
And that time is never. Fucking idiot.
Which the press shall decide.
It seems the spendings were an integral part of Gingrich’s comments regarding The Children™. I remember because he was talking about the Unbearable Heaviness of Union Whores.
What’s odd is that ‘feets has transformed what should rightfully be a Newt bashing thread into a cheering section.
You getting paid, boy?
I’m speaking as a concerned pikachu what is worried that the prospects of removing one Barack Hussein Obama from the premises of our little white house are dimming
run run rudolph Gingrich save the Christmas?
That’s the idea that’s on the table.
And we all have to try and get our head around it.
everyone but them was going to hell. Even Missouri Synod.
Didn’t that issue come between Woody and Kelly on Cheers? I thought it was just a joke.
I watched It’s a Wonderful Life on Saturday and I was impressed that little George Baily was only about 11 when he worked as a soda jerk and errand boy for the pharmacy. Seemed perfectly natural.
Given the demise of the newspaper, the only real job left to minors (besides baby-sitting, and even that’s under threat) has pretty much disappeared.
Child-labor laws were formulated during the industrial revolution, when kids were genuinely exploited to work for cheap in various Dark Satanic Mills where they regularly lost limbs and lives.
But those types of factories are gone, gone, gone, and nobody is going to hire a ten-year-old to work on a vehicle assembly line. Let ’em sweep floors at McDonalds, if they want, say I. As long as it’s not during school hours.
We need to get our heads around nothing. I’m not the biggestest Newtie fan in the world, but it’s about fucking time that we be able to separate thinking out loud from policy proposals in politics. You contrast that with the participation trophied jabbering fuckstick of a teleprompter reader we have as president, and anyone who has half a brain ought to be able to turn Gingrich’s occasionally loopy thoughts into a virtue.
we will see Mr. Froman we will see but nevertheless it would behoove the cause I think were Mr. Newt to endeavor to employ a modicum of message discipline
I still think happyfeet’s career in marketing consists of throwing himself into meetings where marketers can take a look at his antics and learn What Not To Do. I may have to put in a call to OSHA and see if we can get him a gig teaching workplace safety by standing in front of an open furnace or reaching into a printing press…
Lookit! Now Santorum is saying crazy things that aren’t about the spendings!!!
and a happy new year let’s hope it’s a good one without any workplace burn injuries
If only.
Mr. Pablo sometimes you have to let santorum be santorum
just be sure and wash your hands after
Which the press shall decide™.
Ooooh! Sous chef!
There’s message discipline, and then there’s deftly employing a personal weakness as a virtue. It’s almost too perfect how Gingrich’s greatest failing makes Obama look even smaller than he already is. But I suppose that’s the art of marketing, and you’ve never really advanced past the classroom “science” of it.
You wanna change the child labor laws? Tell the unions that kids’ll be easier to organize!
piece of cake
I don’t think that’s Mr. Newt’s greatest failing. I think it’s more that he’s pompous and grandiose and has a tacky slut wife.
Which the press shall decide™.
Come on feets; give me a break.
it’s not just the press though Mr. Howard
I think normal everyday people can be forgiven for wondering why Mr. Newt is flouncing about babbling about child labor laws.
I could have sworn that his being pompous and grandiose were what I was addressing. As to the tacky cumslut wife, we have a smug moo cow as first lady already. That’s a wash.
the participation trophied jabbering fuckstick of a teleprompter reader
That’s good.
oh I am sorry then Mr. Froman I thought you were specifically addressing his lack of message discipline
You can tell it’s weird because of all the child labor ads he’s running and they way he’s always bringing it up at debates. It’s like his 9-9-9. Or something.
As vapid as Callista may be, I don’t get the impression that she thinks she’s the boss of me. Or, more importantly, of Newt. It might be because of the vapidity, actually.
Sure, but he was the last guy to balance the budget, and he doesn’t hate the little brown people, and with his trainwreck of a personal life, nobody’s going to accuse him of being a godbothery christer.
In happyfeetland, that should make him like the bees knees!
he’s brought up the child labor thing at least three times on the campaign trail, Mr. Pablo, as recently as today
His friend The Donald is gonna put ten urchins to work!
Only as you and the press decide it™, feets. In other words, no you weren’t:
And like that, 24/7.
™.
how did we even get on this subject anyway?
I refuse to accept that definition.
What ever winds your watch, cranky. I was previously married to a systems analyst. Engineers are the stubbornest bastards on God’s green Earth. Clearly, we will have to agree to disagree.
So, now that we’ve beat to death what Newt said that was off message, lets talk about what Newt said on message.
Oh yeah…why bother?
Newt is ok with me, especially given the other choices.
Is anyone else getting excited about the pending anniversary archive pluck?
I’m gonna jump in the shower to get ready
This is how we got on this subject.
This should read at least three (or four) or you’re leaving out the second largest Christian denomination.
That’s one thing about Newt, we know him.
Er, maybe Nancy P. will have some bonus material, but I can’t imagine it will matter at this point.
Speaking of which, I saw something about Cain admitting he never told his wife that he was giving money to Ginger.
I don’t feel so bad he’s gone now…
oh so now it’s all my fault
blast from the past
link
I said this before, raised in two fundamentalist Christian Churches. Mom was Seventh Day Adventist, my home town is to them as SLC is to Mormons, Dad was Southern Baptist. Grew up in a neighborhood with many RC friends and now attend an Eastern Orthodox Church with some of the most freedom loving people on Earth since most of them either personally or they had family who were behind the Iron Curtain.
I have an anecdote regarding Child labor laws. For lack of a better description, I have a big brother/little brother situation with the son of a former girlfriend. He has just turned six, but over the last couple of years he has went to work with me when his mom had hiccups with day care. I run my own businesses, so I can do that sort of thing.
This summer he spent three separate weeks with me, and became an often commented on subject by my customers. It is rare to see young kids in a non-retail workplace, so he was immediately the topic of conversation. One thing really stood out to me about the various comments and discussions I had at the time- the only places in which child labor laws were ‘jokingly’ brought up, were at the local VA hospital (Federal unionized employees) and a credit union (also unionized and created for the local UAW). In fact, one of the VA employees took it upon herself to begin questioning him about pay and to make sure I was paying enough.
I will tell you, he worked harder than some of the teenagers I spent time training over the years, only to have them quit because they didn’t like the work. And for pay- he got a Happy Meal and access to every candy bowl at the 15-20 customers we visited each day. He was in heaven.
Disclaimer- No I do not suggest 6 years should get jobs and work for happy meals and candy- I do think that spending time working with their parents is of enormous value to five year olds.
This almost makes me want to start twittering…
This should read at least three (or four) or you’re leaving out the second largest Christian denomination.
I stand corrected.
I had originally said “American” denominations but then remembered Catholicism as all Italian and stuff.
Do those other two also catch hell (so to speak) from Evangelicals?
Well, that’s it then, Romney/Gingrich is is!
I’m sure glad it’s settled before any of that messy business in New Hampshire begins.
My wife saw me looking at that link LB and asked me if I was working on a collage of my List.
Probably off their radar since we/they don’t have a Pope and that was one of the breaking points back in 1052 or so. Have to wait and see if the situation of the Copts in Egypt starts making real headlines.
“Do those other two also catch hell (so to speak) from Evangelicals?”
I’m sure glad I’m a classic Christian, and not one of them denominated ones.
Them seem confusing.
Happy,
I am dullwitted as Crawford frequently notes–joined in, occasionally by LBascom–so please do clarify:
Cumslut. What is it, exactly? Definitionally speaking, isn’t every woman who is not a virgin something of a cumslut? Or, rather, is it wrong for them to desire sex since, if we’re candid, most every hetero sex act is going to result in “cum” (if only because of the friction.) Broadly put then, most every woman here, or anywhere, is a cumslut. Or do I have it wrong and only Sarah Palin is a cumslut? If so, then that implies that every right-of-center woman whose personal life doesn’t meet a certain definition of symmetry is a cumslut?
I think sometimes with certain people around here (the late, unlamented Thor comes to mind), there is a premium placed on the shock value of certain sex acts based on our Rightwingedness. We are supposed to be shocked that women have sex (actively seeking certain cum) or want it indiscriminately (cum obsessives.) Either way, I’m agnostic, personally as to female designs to this end.
Since all of this strikes me as not really getting the Libertarian/classic liberal core of PW, I think we need to nail this one down, post-haste.
I have no idea Mr. Boyd I hardly ever use that word it’s just for special occasions.
and I miss thor he was ornery but he was passionate in his beliefs and a good person, deep deep down
and he sure could turn a phrase
I talk to you later I have to go check in on Elena and Stefan. They’ve been having a real hard time of it lately cause of how Klaus is so full of mischief.
Nah, thor was an asshole. Why you want to pretend otherwise puzzles me.
cause of he sent a monkey to mr. burrhog
and mr. burrhog was really tickled by that
You are doing that, btw. You’re pretending he wasn’t an asshole. Why?
“I am dullwitted as Crawford frequently notes–joined in, occasionally by LBascom”
That’s hardly fair, I’ve never called you anything I don’t think, except maybe wrong.
Don’t take it personally, I challenge anyone in error. Sometimes it even ends up being me.
Okay, I have one monkey to mr. burrhog (huh?) and then I have a hundred instances of him being a complete and total asshole.
Let me calibrate my scale and see how thor does.
Thor is in a better place now. May he rest in peace.
Nice work, Roddy.
…which it has lots of corollaries, which I like.
I really don’t mind disagreement. (I think I’ve proven that.)
But, bullshit like thor was a good person? It offends me. You’re basically just lying for no reason whatsoever. No one here buys that nonsense but you’re saying it anyways. Why? For fun? Just to be contrarian?
there were lots of comments Mr. thor made that were nice and witty and charming and even erudite
the part I didn’t like is where he would call Mr. Karl a racist
that was so unfair
Intellectual Dishonesty: The Virtue. Coming long ago to blog comments near you.
Them seem confusing.
Only to the uninitiated. We, I will speak to my experience as a Roman Catholic, have a rich history of scholarship, and our Pope, the Holy Father, is the Vicar of Christ on Earth.
For instance, there is a saint for every day of the year, as noted in the naming by Chistopher Columbus in the naming of the various islse he landed upon in his search for the New World. We have a calendar for the Church year. For instance, last sunday was the first sunday in Advent. We observe Lent, the fasting season in preparation for the Resurrection of Christ on Easter. The Lutherans use the Roman calendar, as Martin Luther was at one time a Catholic priest, but the Orthodox use their own and only occasionally do our Easters fall on the same day.
It is all quite fascinating from an historical perspective. Even the awfulness of the Dark Ages, that led to the wonder of the Renaissance.
Sell it to someone dumber, ‘feets.
Bullshit.
Good people don’t leave hundreds of foaming-at-the-mouth, obscenely angry comments at a blog. Try and tell me otherwise and you’re simply continuing to insult me.
Thor was most definately not a good man.
‘feets is easily charmed by sociopaths, it would seem.
Not something to brag about.
how much moral weight do angry blog comments carry really?
thor was enigmatic and he was harsh at times, but I don’t think he was evil.
Hewitt was just playing an interview with Newt from 2003 in which he boasts of his Teddy Roosevelt creds (first Progressive president, they forget to say), then says it’s entirely appropriate to the point of being desirable for the gubmint to “lead the way” and for private enterprise to execute the actual details.
So on the Tribble feed I denounce Newt for the effing progg he is and suddenly I’m a socialist-loving, BHO-voting, America-hater.
Because if we don’t vote for Newt, then the terrorists win.
Boy, some people are dense. Just because Newt can slam him some Pelosi and Obama verbally, we ought to put his fickle ego in power?
I don’t think so.
If it helps, the same folks what are sure Papists are going to hell are doubly sure the Mormons are going too.
The two Christian denominations that lay claim to the same priesthood of God are the least likely to fret about the ones who deny that priesthood entirely.
Strange, that. Maybe it’s an insecurity thing.
I don’t quite understand it either, di. We welcome everyone with open arms and aren’t all judge-y, I’m talking about both the LDS and the Catholics. Maybe it’s the door knocking your missionaries do? I always like talking to them and fed them sandwiches and lemonade.
The Lie is utmost evil, feets.
but also I have to say he never said a harsh word to me the whole time
not once
he was never anything but a gentleman in our exchanges, really, so that probably a lot colors how I remember him
really – you can go back and look
Not all those blog comments were made in anger: thor was cold, calculating, and cruel, and it delighted him to provoke others to wrath.
The fact that he was witty and clever while doing only means that he’s witty and clever, not good.
Otherwise, we’re admiring the jihadis for their ingenious use of commercial airlines.
none of that makes him a bad person just a provocateur
and apparently a very memorable one
Cumslut. What is it, exactly? Definitionally speaking
At the risk of rushing in foolishly:
I’d say it’s a heterosexual woman who behaves towards her partner the same way certain homosexual men behave towards each other.
Evil?
I don’t really give a shit. He seemed like a bitter, bullshitting drunk to me more than anything more worrisome. Someone to pity.
But good? No. That’s a pretty open and shut case. He wasn’t.
“Boy, some people are dense.”
Which is why a Republic, and not a Democracy. Or better yet, all people are dense [sooner or later], which is why a Republic with insanely interlocking checks and balances, and not a Democracy with built in suicidal devisings.
Maybe it’s the door knocking your missionaries do?
Which they should condemn on account of Jesus forbidding it?
No, the hatred of Mormons is at its root irrational. They started persecuting Joseph Smith when he was 14 and claimed to have seen God. They burned our houses and raped our women and drove us out of the country long before polygamy or white shirts or anything like that.
It’s rather similar to anti-Jewish hatred: constant yet shifting, it changes its rhetoric but it never really goes away.
I don’t think any of us ever got the chance to know him well enough to pronounce him a bad person
but I really hated that he was so unrelenting with respect to Karl
do you not understand Mr. bh?
You’re quite immune to reason and evidence then, feets. Man, it pains me to observe that.
I will tell you a story
“Just because Newt can slam him some Pelosi and Obama verbally, we ought to put his fickle ego in power?”
i think of mr. newt as a good lawyer/politician. bring enough popular support he is 100% on your side and will argue for it.
You apparently knew him well enough to pronounce him a good person though.
I never thought Thor was evil so much as he just had mental health issues. Sometimes you could see his brain chemistry change in a thread like you were watching a slow motion train wreck.
If you understand or if you don’t
If you believe or if you doubt
There’s a universal justice
And the eyes of truth
Are always watching you.
that’s just mean Mr. Howard and now I don’t feel like telling my story
I’m gonna go make sure Elena and Stefan are ok
none of that makes him a bad person just a provocateur
Why is being a provocateur for the sake of provocation not the same as bad?
Jeff provokes by challenging assumptions and demanding that his arguments be refuted. Thor provoked by using the nastiest, ugliest insults he could muster. There’s nothing good about that. Nothing good is obtained by doing so.
Apparently, thor sock-puppeted me at the end of some thread and it was so disgusting that Jeff deleted it. I never saw it, but I do thank Jeff for the kindness.
Any reason why a good person would do that to someone, feets?
“It is all quite fascinating from an historical perspective. Even the awfulness of the Dark Ages, that led to the wonder of the Renaissance”
Oh, sorry, I was mostly talking about the way ya’ll interact with one another. Them.
Sometimes it’s like watching a guy stick his thumb in his own eye. In a I Corinthians 12 sorta way.
Ah, so that’s mean. And you the victim and I the victimizer. Huh.
No, I don’t understand. Do you understand that when you try and tell me something contrary to the great preponderance of evidence without one hell of an argument, it annoys me?
I’m serious about that. It makes me think your view me is quite low.
Actually, I think the lines from Enigma are quite in keeping with JG’s ownership of meaning and intent, feets. There are absolutes, in other words, and your interpretation — If you understand or if you don’t / If you believe or if you doubt — is quite irrelevant.
Previously unseen Santorum videos released:
http://tinyurl.com/cclq9jd
No, the hatred of Mormons is at its root irrational. They started persecuting Joseph Smith when he was 14 and claimed to have seen God. They burned our houses and raped our women and drove us out of the country long before polygamy or white shirts or anything like that.
I grew up around a lot of LDS and they were just regular folks with big families, like ours, except they didn’t drink or smoke, like we do. I found it kind of amusing that several of the families had moved to Las Vegas where they operated dry cleaners and bakeries and all the little cogs of business that no one ever thinks of when they think of Las Vegas.
The treatment of the Mormons was indeed horrible. It puts in mind of the Union army and the way they raped and burned and looted their way through the South.
Plus Buber, Arendt, and Posner on evil. Tab A and slot B and like that.
Would that be a good person who simply refused to understand or accept that the host had, after defending his right to be a douchebag for ages, finally unwelcomed him from this house? Only to find him using proxies to skirt the IP ban and nastily impersonate other pw regulars?
hammerboi is why we have registration now, IIRC. With friends like that, who needs genital warts?
I never thought Thor was evil so much as he just had mental health issues.
Not mutually exclusive, cf. VA Tech shooter.
If he had real live hobgoblins torturing his every waking moment, then I can forgive his intemperance. But his outbursts were too calculated to be the frustrations of a soul tortured by a malfunctioning brain. His very soul was sick.
That’s because of the Hebrew Calandar. The Greeks, unlike the Latin,s didn’t have a conniption fit at the thought of Easter coinciding with Passover. (Unless they did and I have that backwards.)
Fecking marketing weasels.
the little cogs of business that no one ever thinks of when they think of Las Vegas.
Las Vegas (Spanish: The Meadows) was originally a Mormon colony. It was the silver mining that turned it into the gambling mecca we now know, when the miners, mostly unattached men, outnumbered the Mormons and turned the town into something more of their own liking.
No my view of you is not low at all but me and thor, we were ok.
And as far as I’m concerned we’re still ok.
That’s just how we left things, lo all those many moons ago.
But I’m just mean.
no you’re not mean I was just feeling dumped on for a minute there
That’s because of the Hebrew Calandar. The Greeks, unlike the Latin,s didn’t have a conniption fit at the thought of Easter coinciding with Passover
I can’t remember which way that goes. I remember reading about the guy who had calculated out all of the Easters to come using some whack methodology and thinking that I was glad someone had taken all of the guess work out of it for us.
So, you’re saying that thor wasn’t a dick to you. Fine. That doesn’t insult anyone’s intelligence.
Fact is: thor had many more interactions here than those with you. He was an asshole to other people. Lot’s of ’em. And he wasn’t a smallish asshole. He was an enormous asshole. One fact doesn’t make the other fact disappear which is essentially what you’re trying to sell (he was good to me, hence he was good) for some reason.
If he had real live hobgoblins torturing his every waking moment, then I can forgive his intemperance. But his outbursts were too calculated to be the frustrations of a soul tortured by a malfunctioning brain. His very soul was sick.
I suppose we’ll never know for sure. There was also occasionally the hint of a guy who thought that he was among friends here in some crazy deluded way. I mean, the sick idiot actually came here of all places for a shoulder to cry on when his mother died.
ok I’m saying thor wasn’t a dick to me
I can definitely understand why some people don’t like him, but I also remember that for all his meanness, people relished going back and forth with him. They sure seemed to anyway.
Thor was sort of a dickish Walter Mitty. Him and his adventures in Russia, his drinking capacity, his sexual prowess, his wheeling and dealing on the stock market, his trust fund, his top drawer education, etc. He was a Poor Man’s James Bond and a really, really bad bullshit artist with a shocking vocabulary.
I blame Roddy.
instigator
Thor wasn’t a dick to me either, hf. In fact the only reason I even started commenting here was because I was sick of him, and I was on his ass so hard from the beginning that as desperately as he tried to turn it around on me, he never could. He was my rent-a-bitch. Still, it doesn’t say anything good about you whatsoever that you simply judge a person by how they treated you.
Las Vegas (Spanish: The Meadows) was originally a Mormon colony.
This I didn’t know. How interesting! So the families I knew were not an anomoly, but were returning to their roots, perhaps.
I can live with that
I think I always had the same take as Leigh at #274. He was just so over-the-top and master-of-all-trades regardless of the topic. But he didn’t play it for laughs. He wanted actual respect from antagonized internet strangers. And when he didn’t get it, he lost his shit.
Abe’s “sick idiot” fits.
Dionysius Exiguus did most of the heavy lifting.
That’s why I used to always tell RD to join a softball league. There are messed up people out there craving human interaction and acceptance and they’re thinking the internet is gonna do the job.
It’s not.
They should go outside. Learn to interact with real people face to face. They might actually find some happiness rather than geting into weird dynamics where trading base insults with strangers seems to be a good use of an evening.
i blame nishi
That’s a very good link, Ernst. Thank you.
here’s the first song I ever got from nishi I still hear it sometimes in my friend A’s car and my friend P’s car cause they put it on their i thingies after they heard it over at my old place
Proper inks are important, too.
You’re welcome.
Now, if I had wanted to mess with you, I’d have thrown this in with some snide remark about Dan Brown being more right than he knows.
oh my earth 1st
link
One of these days, I’ll finally remember not to click on happyfeet music links anymore. Da boy’s got some wicked scary teenage girl musical taste.
Da boy’s got some wicked scary teenage girl musical taste.
Doesn’t surprise me in the least, seeing how he write’s like one.
That’s why I was struck by HF and cumslut. It’s this slightly odd formulation wherein RW’ers are SHOCKED by sexuality manifested. So Palin, who is legitimately controversial to a degree, isn’t just distasteful via her policy prescriptions and personal beliefs, but is a cumslut. It’s just odd.
Its very Thor. One time Thor was going on about how he simply fucked his way through Moscow. But as he described his exploits, he was describing the most pedestrian/passive sex with call girls I’ve ever heard. Leaving aside his clinical input, it was abundantly clear he’d never really had intercourse before and was astounded by it. He was paying women and proud of their–faked–stimulation.
There was an 8th grade, purloined Playboy sense of it, “And then, you know, down there….”
Which is as pathetic as Abe said. (I won’t even, as noted, get into him hanging here the day his Mom passed away.)
But he was also nasty, cruel and militant, but to no real end. Everyone was a retard and everyone “A waterhead.” He didn’t have a political point of view much. He just liked insulting people. In a war, he wouldn’t fight much, but if you left him near the POWs, watch out.
Barry Rubin:
Some thor for the memories, Oct 2008.
As erudite as the Urban Dictionary.
Returning to the Rubin piece:
It’s just odd.
In a Bolshevik sorta way.
Billy Graham was for years very fond of telling groups of Pastors and clergy that would come to Montreat, his home in NC, to be especially careful of pronouncements of who is going to heaven and hell. It wasn’t remotely your job, he’s say, the Bible being exceptionally clear about God and final judgement. But he’d hook them with this bit–The bible was also clear about there being a host of surprises in store with respect to who actually got in (and who didn’t.)
I can see that message never got as far as old Billy wanted it to go.
“It was not a pro-Arab speech but a pro-Islamist speech.”
link
You don’t suppose that’s a pre-emptive “don’t blame us, we didn’t have nothing to do with nothing no how!” media campaign for when Isreal takes out Iran’s nuke program?
i especially like “sounds on Earth at sunset.” go soros!!11!!
“You don’t suppose that’s a pre-emptive ‘don’t blame us, we didn’t have nothing to do with nothing no how!’ ” media campaign for when Isreal takes out Iran’s nuke program?”
Worse, he’s on the Iranian’s side:
222. I retract the comment. Ill-considered, and your point is taken.
Why (of course we ask, because inconceivable otherwise)?
Because, the Iranians are Obama’s refreshing up-and-comers, possibly capable in his mind of taking the United States down a peg or two. No? Watch.
The Iranian’s have had a little “windfall” from the skies (parachuting in, I imagine, contrary to the “gliding in” story being put out.) Will Obama do anything to destroy that windfall? Ha. He’s clapping the mullahs on the back as we live and breathe.
So, the US president is basically cheerleading for a nuclear war?
That is a good piece by Rubin, sdferr. Thanks.
At the end he says, “It is clear that Obama will neither learn nor change and if he is given a second term, the whirlwind will be reaped.”
I wonder if that is too optimistic. Doesn’t it seem just as likely that the whirlwind has already been insured by his first term?
I mean, Egypt is in Islamist hands, Libya too, the Iranians are emboldened, Pakistan and Turkey seem to have made their decisions, we ask “Who Lost Iraq?”, soon that could be “Who Lost Afghanistan?” and allies have been decisively reminded exactly how fickle American leadership every four years.
Seems an incredible amount of damage has already been done. I would hate to tempt fate and ask what he’ll do for an encore but he’d have to try pretty hard to top those accomplishments.
That should be “how fickle American leadership can be every four years.”
It still astounds me that Obama’s propaganda team has been gleefully proposing that he will run on a foreign policy agenda next year (given the unstated fact that he can’t run on his own domestic record). Either they merely think Americans are idiots, or else they’re right and Americans are idiots, but either way, what’s to be cheerful about?
Iran is evil for reals even though they’ve never done anything to me personally.
They’re probably thinking that people know relatively little about his foreign policy mistakes but everyone knows about the declining value of their home, their employment prospects and how much it costs to fill the car with gas and buy groceries.
If you can’t sell the steak, take some roadkill and make sizzling noises in the kitchen, I guess.
Heh.
“. . . thinking that people know relatively little about his foreign policy mistakes . . . ”
The poll that came in with American’s 75% approval of the withdraw from Iraq (in defeat, I insist) wouldn’t seem to give the lie to that.
Btw, I think it is much harder to obtain information on what’s going on in the world compared to what’s going on in your own life. That is to say, they could be gambling on their base plus some percentage of the lazy middle being simply ignorant (as compared to stupid) of what’s going on out there.
The signals are everywhere.
link
Charles-Marie Widor, Toccata
It won’t keep us from the dark places to which we’re headed, but makes a decent diversion along the way.
Mushroom clouds are going to be a real bitch to hide.
for sumthing lighter here’s some:
pat condell doing beckian doom.
bullet manufacturing might be a growing industry. though don’t discount suicide vests.
thinking about thinking about making things
link
I do not trust Mitt or Newt. I may trust Newt less. But it is damn close. I do not see Santorum rising. And Ron Paul is half great and half nuts.
The economy, support for Israel, Obama, just as strong on one as the other.
there’s no such thing as half nuts
Yipe, didn’t mean for all that orange.
You can continue to believe that psychology is a science. You will be wrong until the end of days.
There is no “agree to disagree” because I do not agree to disagree. Plain and simple.
Spin way, though.
that’s really remarkable
and probably a lot expensive
Yellow is the expensive one. With orange the trick is not to get any of the white pith mixed in.
orange is kinda republican
Orange Order
Unless one is expecting to loft eggwhites, in which case it works the other way round.
President Ronald Reagan – Liberty State Park
Notice, leigh, that you did not try to refute what I said. Instead, you tried to reduce my opinion to that of your ex-husband.
Typical progressive misdirection.
If you want to prove me wrong, do it. Otherwise, you are simply flailing.
oh I meaned it’s expensive to alienate that many jewish peiople
the zombie newt
“I look forward to meeting Mr. Carter in debate, confronting him with the whole sorry record of his Administration–the record he prefers not to mention. If he ever finally agrees to the kind of first debate the American people want–which I’m beginning to doubt–he’ll answer to them and to me.
This country needs a new administration, with a renewed dedication to the dream of America–an administration that will give that dream new life and make America great again!
Restoring and revitalizing that dream will take bold action.
On this day, dedicated to American working men and women, may I tell you the vision I have of a new administration and of a new Congress, filled with new members dedicated to the values we honor today?”
cont.
“beginning in January of 1981, American workers will once again be heeded. Their needs and values will be acted upon in Washington. I will consult with representatives of organized labor on those matters concerning the welfare of the working people of this nation.
I happen to be the only president of a union ever to be a candidate for President of the United States.
As president of my union — the Screen Actors Guild — I spent many hours with the late George Meany, whose love of this country and whose belief in a strong defense against all totalitarians is one of labor’s greatest legacies. One year ago today on Labor Day George Meany told the American people:
“As American workers and their families return from their summer vacations they face growing unemployment and inflation, a climate of economic anxiety and uncertainty.”
Well I pledge to you in his memory that the voice of the American worker will once again be heeded in Washington and that the climate of fear that he spoke of will no longer threaten workers and their families.
When we talk about tax reduction, when we talk about ending inflation by stopping it where it starts — in Washington — we are talking about a way to bring labor and management together for America. We are talking about jobs, and productivity and wages. We are talking about doing away with Jimmy Carter’s view of a no-growth policy, and ever-shrinking economic pie with smaller pieces for each of us.
That’s no answer. We can have a bigger pie with bigger slices for everyone. I believe that together you and I can bake that bigger pie. We can make that dream that brought so many of us or our parents and grandparents to this land live once more.”
So, the US president is basically cheerleading for a nuclear war?
Don’t know about that.
It may be simply that the Iranians, having ousted their Imperial-Oppressor-Western-Backed Shah, have successfully Taken Back What’s Theirs From Whitey (never mind that Iran = Aryan and borders on the Caucasus mountains) and therefore are the default Good Guys or at least Not So Bad Guys in Obama’s book.
Same with Libya and Egypt and the other basket-case regimes headed by Western-friendly thugs: Obama is more interested in seeing people throw off the chains of the oppressor (by definition, anyone connected with the Imperial West) than in worrying about what the Islamists will cook up against us next.
And because Israel is the Oppressor-in-Chief of the Mideast, it’s no wonder Obama can’t even pretend to make nice with them. So if Iran nukes Tel Aviv, well, they’re just getting back a little of what’s theirs. The Israelis will have deserved it just as we did with 9/11.
New Ulsterman “White House Insider” interview up.
hf@216:
You have got to be fucking kidding, unless it’s a special occasion when you exhale.
I trust them completely.
I trust them to keep behaving as they always have.
New Ulsterman “White House Insider” interview up.
That’s a Stephen Glass worthy piece of Fabulism.
More than 300 comments is what it’s going to take for us, collectively, to recall that hf is just an artificially stupid conversation-bot.
We learn; we forget. Lather, rinse, repeat.
You can continue to believe that psychology is a science. You will be wrong until the end of days.
You should make your concerns known to the FBI. They are wasting a tremendous amount of monies on their Behavioral Science Unit at Quantico.
They should call it the Behavioral Research Unit, for the intellectual honesty.
Just as long as they don’t call it the Behavioral Studies Unit, lest they accidentally lend prestige the fine art of bullshit.
I don’t think that’s a fair caharacterisation of this thread, Slart. It’s meandered from Newt, to Religion, to Thor, to teh Middle East and back to Newt and Israel.
I say it’s a good thing. I happen to like happyfeet and think of his as kind of a little brother.
How come no one’s relentlessly grilled hf on the meanderings, then?
I don’t know. Does this blog ever stay on topic? Not in the many years I’ve been reading it.
Are you and hf related, somehow?
It’s not the drift so much as the drift/inanity product.
Ernst, I don’t go into your area of expertice, about which I likely no little to nothing and pronounce it “bullshit”. This is an error often made by laymen when referring to Psychological Studies which do indeed use a great deal of for realz science-y science.
Psychology isn’t all about therapy, a good deal of it is gathering research and statistical data. The word “psychology” is the Scientific study of Human Behavior.” Herr Doktor Freud was a genius and many, many years ahead of his time. It is too bad that he has fallen out of fashion, since, IMHO, everything in your life relates back to your relationship with your mother. His studies about eros and thanatos, love and death, as the driving forces in all our lives are still relevant today.
All that said, there are a lot of charlatans who pass themselves off as Psychologists when they are not. As in anything else, caveat emptor.
i like you too I don’t know why people get all inquisitiony especially so early in the day
No, I am not related to happy. I just think he is charming and amusing and a nice change up from all of the angsty teeth-gnashing and WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rhetoric that goes on on political blogs.
He’s kind of a court jester. You (not you, personally) get mad or exasperated at him for not joining in the Amen Corner and lash out at him. Heck, Jeff even banned him once. That was wrong of Jeff, I thought, and so did some others. Readership fell off and it was boring over here. I left and checked back until happy and some others that I enjoy reading returned. I suspect others did as well while some left for good. I am not saying the attrition was due to happy being banned. Remember Dan took off and started his own site and of course, people move to different places in their lives.
At any rate, I like him and I like pd buttons. I did not like Nishi or Thor.
People are grouchy when they don’t eat breakfast, happy. Or the store was out of their favorite coffee.
Mr. buttons! He’s the gold standard.
I have new coffee to try today I’m excited as soon as I warm up the turtles I’m gonna try some.
ok I’m saying thor wasn’t a dick to me
Mostly because you weren’t a woman.
Not that he couldn’t occasionally be a dick to men, but he seemed to have had issues with women.
I mostly remember Karl, cause that had such awful consequences… but you’re right he was very nice to Mr. Dan too, so maybe he had a sexist bias what guided who he would become displeased with
but at the end of the day it’s an all bark no bite situation
except for Mr. Karl
I like the part where they meet once a year and declare stuff to be disease. Like road rage. And the absence of medical testing to prove either theory or outcome.
Oh, and making psych a requirement of attending government school. That’s a cool thing that comes up regularly in legislatures. Plus the psych lobby; saints on wheels they are.
And nearly all of it sciency.
I didn’t call psychology bullshit. I called N-Studies bullshit.
We’re in one of those areas (like the Culture quandry of several threads ago) where the limitations of English come into play. I happen to like the hard-science soft science distinction. But I also think Cranky’s point about the soft science’s not being all that science-y is important to bear in mind:
And as for my area of expertice, Late Antique/Early Medieval History, you may take my word for it, much of the research done these days is not only bullshit, but trendy bullshit.
It is too bad that he has fallen out of fashion, since, IMHO, everything in your life relates back to your relationship with your mother. His studies about eros and thanatos, love and death, as the driving forces in all our lives are still relevant today.
If you want to see where Freud is still relevant, go to a lit crit department. They loves them some Freud because it gives them the chance to talk some more about sex regardless of its role in the text.
Freud isn’t so much out-of-fashion as he is discredited. Freud is to psychology what alchemy is to chemistry: fanciful but not scientific. Especially with the dream symbolism. He was just making stuff up at that point, but because he was the first guy, that’s all he had.
You … get mad or exasperated at him for not joining in the Amen Corner and lash out at him.
That’s an awfully simplistic analysis of our reaction to ‘feets. Mere disagreement doesn’t evoke “lashing out” around here. We get pissed at ‘feets when he repeats Leftist talking points verbatim and engages in bigotry against “godbotherers” and other people with the gall to Believe In Jesus While Public.
Heck, Jeff even banned him once. That was wrong of Jeff
You weren’t here to read all the stirring-up ‘feets engaged in, then. If Jeff bans someone, it’s because they’ve really gone too far, and ‘feets had. Again, mere disagreement—even vehement, passionate disagreement—won’t get anyone banned from pw. But derailing Every. Single. Thread. to talk about hoochie Palin and the Jesus freaks was more than tiresome: it was abusive of Jeff’s good graces.
And as for my area of expertice, Late Antique/Early Medieval History, you may take my word for it, much of the research done these days is not only bullshit, but trendy bullshit.
I believe you. I have a friend who is the Dean of Arts and Letters at a small private college and his specialty is Ancient History. He says the same thing as you, that it is trendy bullshit.
I don’t disagree about there being hard and scft sciences. I have a certification as a medical technologist, too, the better to study the chemical reactions of the brain and monitor psychotropic drugs in the blood. I find that kind of work dull as dust, but it is a necessary piece of work as a responsible practitioner.
but at the end of the day it’s an all bark no bite situation
This is a blog. You can’t “bite” people over the tubez. Ergo, the bark is the bite, if it’s nasty enough.
Shitting on the rug isn’t biting, but it will get you thrown out after your nose gets rubbed in it.
Herr Doktor Freud wasn’t doing anything that Aristophanes, Euripedes and Sophocles hadn’t already done.
the christers what want so badly to hijack Team R had a good run of it for a long time where they could pipe up and people would be all polite – that shouldn’t happen anymore… especially when people suggest that the failshit government of the US of A should give a hitw if this hoochie or that hoochie wants an abortion – why? cause that’s not limited government at all at all… people should manage their own affairs as they see fit I think.
and there’s nothing wrong with calling the naked hateful bigotry exactly what it is, since that’s how history is gonna remember it anyway. When religions get all political they cheapen the fuck out of themselves. That’s why Jesus never ran for Congress.
He knew.
Di, Freud’s dream therapy was a cop-out on his part. He did make it up so he didn’t have to use his own “talking cure” with one of his disciples. The Super-ego was strong in that one.
What have the so called “soft” sciences (or we might call them pseudo-sciences) in common, if anything?
Someone said, “the proper study for man is man”, or words to that effect (where in former times to that, men paid much greater attention to other matters, like nature as such, or their God and religious studies, for instance). I’d suggest that is where the commonality lies. Further, that these sciences, should we choose to dignify them thus, were born in a self-consciously political context, at unity with a political project organizing, articulating our human world, including all the sciences, from top to bottom. The birth of the human urge to place his emphasis on himself, however, came some centuries earlier, but was brought to its fullest development and most open recognition at the rise of progressivism and positivism together. And though modified over the ensuing century and a half or so, remain in place down to our time. We have only to look to the structure of the Universities, and the rationales which ground that structure.
That’s just a gestural gist of the subject though.
hitw is supposed to be “whit” the letters didn’t all go in the right places
my coffee is still in the press is why I bet
Bigotry is the new black.
Herr Doktor Freud wasn’t doing anything that Aristophanes, Euripedes and Sophocles hadn’t already done.
Not exactly. Freud was a trained physician with a specialty in neurosurgury. The Ancients were still hung up on the Humours of the body and the idea that the blood circulated in the body was a new one in the 18th century.
Here is a story that they have had the information about for somewhere between 6 months and 4 years. Just sitting there on a back burner. So why publish it now?
Newt, I’d say, everything including the kitchen sink will be thrown.
“…neurosurgury…”
I don’t think that’s quite right. I believe he was trained as a histologist, studying cells, and brain cells in particular.
He was a surgeon when he trained in Vienna. I am not certain if neurosurgury was a specialty at that time. Most likely not. I apologize if I mislead.
To finish the story, Freud was initially strictly a materialist sort of scientist, but to his misfortune, the instruments of the time were deeply inadequate to the subject matter, so any progress was very slow. He was a man in a hurry, wanting to advance knowledge faster than nature was willing to give up her secrets, so he abandoned histology to let clinical observation + imagination take him where he wanted to go, or so he thought.
i used to be an administrator at a mental health facility and we’d gotten a big contract yay!… and in the policies and procedures for that contract we had x number of therapists to handle the cases and so as we got the referrals they would be parceled out
then after a year passed and we had a feel for the size of how this contract was gonna perform we hired a multi-multi-credentialed psychologist to run it
the first thing she did was have me change the P&P (and when you do that mid-contract it’s super-fun)… to where the cases would all be parceled out by her in a group meeting of all the psychologist people… so they could talk about the cases and which therapist would be best for which one
it made a HUGE difference… a measurable difference. Which made what we were doing seem very very much more sciencey to me than I had ever thought it to be, being young and cynical. And underpaid so I didn’t stay there much longer but I still love all them people more than chockit milk and one of em every year I send her a big plant arrangement that the retarded children make at a different kind of mental health facility my mom worked with.
So whether it’s science or not these people genuinely help people, and by studying what they do they can figure out ways to help them more better. I seen it wif my own eyes!
Then I guess I missed the anatomy lecture where Freud explained where in the brain the id, ego, and superego structures were located.
There it is hf. Helping people is both a good thing, and a political thing. Dingdingding.
So, Obama has tried to ape Lincoln, then Reagan and now he’s going for Teddy Roosevelt. Does anyone suppose he’ll get around to Nixon before the election?
yup these were all government contracts I should’ve said
At any rate, Psychiatry is a specialty in medicine, just as is Oncology. Psychology is a Ph.D degree and thus may be sneered at.
one time I was designing a program for “at-risk” pregnant hoochies – think beaten or in drug environments or whatever – so we found a house for them and I wrote in the proposal how we’d deck it out et cetera to serve as a group home… and I almost missed that the rfp had said the hoochies had to have cable
so this was an older house that would need wiring etc… so I figured that out and such
but it really changed how I felt about the project
How ya gonna keep ’em on the
farmplantation after they’ve seenParis…Detroit…Oakland… the suburbs?btw “designing a program” mostly involves cutting and pasting from the documentation of previous programs
Sneering at a Ph.D. degree would be a violation of Lady Bracknell’s rule. Sneering at a Ph.D. degreed opiner opining on a subject outside his area of special competence who expects his “expert” opinion be deferred to by virtue of his credential is an act of civic virtue and damn near required.
and I almost missed that the rfp had said the hoochies had to have cable
We’ve got that house in Detroit that we can’t sell (yada yada yada) and we heard that a good way to rent was to go housing voucher, because the government direct deposits the money in your account that that they kicked kicked out if they don’t keep the property up to standards.
Then I started reading the requirements for the house. Oye. The main rooms – living room, bedrooms, HAVE to have a permanent light fixture on the ceiling in the middle.
Huh?
because, I guess lamps are just too much to expect of the ‘po. Daddy government is going to insure that they’re provided with food, housing, and a light fixture in the ceiling.
I don’t know why I find that just so ridiculous, but I’m not ruining my ceiling to put a light fixture up there. This far. No further.
I see you have also attended many faculty meetings, nicht wahr?
my apartment doesn’t have none of that stuff except for the kitchen and the dining place… and the bathroom I guess kinda but i switched it out for a blue light so in winter people can use the bathroom without the turtles getting all confuzzled
for the bedroom I went and bought a cheapy lamp at target where you mix n match the lamp and shade and it doesn’t do the trick at all except for matching the comforter but someday I’ll hang this hanging-lamp-with-a-cord I have
it would look stupid if I hung it in the middle though
there’s some recessed lighting in the living room but it’s decorative at best
Didn’t have to. I figured it out by observing the way people interacted at conferences and symposia.
I couldn’t put a name to it though, until I read enough Sowell.
Parsing that Glenn Beck Gingrich interview (for Gingrich’s sophistries, in particular, and inadvertent revelations as well, such as: “By giving people the right to choose.”) is worth the time, I think. That dude will say anything.
Indeed. He is more of a chameleon than a newt.
The after interview conversation was excellent. But alas, it’s behind the paywall. Let’s just say Newt didn’t pick up any supporters.
not nominating Romney would still be a huge win for Team R
that’s just where we are now
it’s sad
beck’s hostility to oil and gas subsidies is dumb I think
America’s been brutally raped by the business end of a spiked oil dildo too too many times to prance around being as ridiculously doctrinaire as all that
but yeah that’s creepy how Gingrich bibble babbles on and on about the failshit government of the United States “migrating people” hither and yither
and he still sounds like a silly climate change faggot to me
with a tacky slut wife to boot
but he’d be way way better than Romney or Obama I think
and cowardly Wall Street Romney could never say this:
so that’s heartening
Hence the justified piling-on of Willie the Racist Hilljack Skinflute Player whenever he surfaces here.
Isn’t it more the Dr. Frank Luntz’s who constitute the problem?
Indeed.
I blame Henry Kissinger insisting on being called Doctor Henry Kissinger.
He’s hostile to subsidies altogether, as am I. The bestest, most Constitutional thing we could do for the oil and gas peoples is get the gubmint the hell out of their way and let them rape Gaia like God intended them to.
He’s more infotainment than an actual problem, like Dr. Phil. The Dr. Krugman and Dr. Holdren types trouble me more.
Motley Crue warned us of one Dr. Feelgood as well.
And then there’s Dr. Strangelove…
#394
Which is why Romney will never be president. Trust me on this.
I’m going to in Huntington Beach over Christmas. After the family festivities I plan on finding the cheapest bar in town and hanging out there for the duration. The girls are big on Disney. I don’t do Disney.
that sounds like fun except I love Disney a lot
there’s so much stuff to do there the only thing I don’t like is the submarine thing I thought I was going to start screaming and never stop
terrifying experience
Scream and never stopping, indeed.
indeed Mr. guins it was a waking nightmare
also Nemo was involved, that charming little clownfish
Speaking of psychology: someone seems to be in their manic phase.
See, and here I was thinking psychotic break. I coulda shoulda woulda got me one of them Ph.D’s.
I was speaking of you, here, clownfoot.
[…] who, while looking at Newton’s sorry record on supporting the Second Amendment, offers this brilliant observation on Newt in action: Gingrich, like Romney, appears to favor government solutions when he believes […]