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"The Organizers vs. the Organized in Zuccotti Park"

NY Magazine:

All occupiers are equal — but some occupiers are more equal than others. In wind-whipped Zuccotti Park, new divisions and hierarchies are threatening to upend Occupy Wall Street and its leaderless collective.

That’s the ostensible thesis — and we as conservatives/classical liberals are supposed to take great pleasure from the confusion of the rabble’s “movement” — but in reality, let me propose that what is happening here (and in other stories like this) is that the progressive media is laying the foundations for what they’ll argue is the considered necessity of a new leadership class — a movement elite, if you will — that controls the message, organizes the army of slavish followers, and ultimately takes over as the architects of The Cause. Among that elite? The progressive media itself, naturally.

But don’t worry: this new ruling class have the interests of the 99% squarely in mind, their compassion being what it is — so it’s not like their presumptuous pseudo-coup (I say “pseudo,” because this has been planned from the start, as I’ve been arguing this week, and the way it shakes out is nothing more than orchestrated theater, to those of us less gullible than the useful idiots the left trained, indoctrinated, and now controls like an cadre of dim-witted, rote-chanting zombies) is some usurpation of power by a self-appointed Marxist hierarchy.

No, nothing to see here. It’s all been perfectly organic. And you haters just refuse to acknowledge that 99% of the people in the US love democratic socialism and insist upon the downfall of capitalism.

Perception is reality. But reality being harder to control, the left has learned to focus on shaping perception. Our greatest failing has been to buy into their epistemological frames.

How you get there matters.
Only nobody really much gives a shit any more. Because all that matters is perception. And perception is reality…

(h/t dicentra)

63 Replies to “"The Organizers vs. the Organized in Zuccotti Park"”

  1. sdferr says:

    We are all occupiers now, says Katha Pollitt, in The Nation. It’s universal, sheepiness.

  2. Carin says:

    ThIs could be fun to watch degenerate.

  3. newrouter says:

    so the proggs are ok now with the israelis “occupying” judea and samaria?

  4. Carin says:

    Those folks doing the unpleasant tasks while the thinkers think and organizers organize…. Well they’re lacking the necessary walls to keep them in. Maybe Kayne West and Susan Surandon will be back to help when the ranks of the workers get thin.

  5. motionview says:

    They go way out of their way to keep the petty thiefs, assaulters, and perverts within the Occupation, even if they are out of control. For now.

  6. Ernst Schreiber says:

    “I love this story about the fraying tensions among the Occupy Wall Street crowd,” Jonah Goldberg wrote today in his weekly G-File. He continued:

    Aside from the general schadenfreudtasticness of it all, I found this bit to contain some fascinating contradictions. Apparently some of the “facilitators” — you might call them the avant-garde of the avant-garde of the avant-garde of the lumpenproletariat — have started censoring and taxing the drummers.

    To Shane Engelerdt, a 19-year-old from Jersey City and self-described former “head drummer,” this amounted to a Jacobinic betrayal. “They are becoming the government we’re trying to protest,” he said. “They didn’t even give the drummers a say. . . . Drumming is the heartbeat of this movement. Look around: This is dead, you need a pulse to keep something alive.”

    The drummers claim that the finance working group even levied a percussion tax of sorts, taking up to half of the $150-300 a day that the drum circle was receiving in tips. “Now they have over $500,000 from all sorts of places,” said Engelerdt. “We’re like, what’s going on here? They’re like the banks we’re protesting.”

    Wait a second. The leadership of OWS is imposing a 50 percent tax rate on the most successful and entrepreneurial protesters and they’re regulating their ability to satisfy the consumer (as it were)?

    This Engelerdt guy’s grasp of political theory is a bit off, though. First he says that the organizers are becoming the sort of government they’re protesting. Except that has it exactly wrong. They’re becoming the sort of government they’re demanding! [emphasis added]

    He then goes on to say that the decision to confiscate so much of the drummers’ obscene profits makes the organizers like the banks. But the banks don’t tax anybody — that’s government’s job. In fact, if these guys had their way, the drummers should be taxed at a much higher rate, right? Why should the drummers make so much more than the guy running the seminar on how to make hemp-twine condoms or the lady teaching folks how to recycle everything from urine to toilet paper?

  7. Squid says:

    I just think it’s really cute, the way they believe that 99% of Americans agree with them.

  8. sdferr says:

    Community disorganizing explained:

    Obama’s inflation of speech and depreciation of experience reflect two dominant theories in the legal academy in which he spent fifteen years, three as a student at Harvard Law School and twelve as a faculty member at the University of Chicago Law School.

    One theory, deliberative democracy, purports to expand and improve conversation among citizens. In practice, however, it appropriates the term “democratic” and reserves it, regardless of where majorities stand, for public policies and laws that are derived from a complex system of abstract ideas. The operation of this system is comprehensible only to a small circle of professors and students, and its results are consistently progressive.

    The other theory, pragmatism, takes pride in the open-minded and experimental search for workable political solutions. But it tends to display flexibility only in regard to means. Academic pragmatism holds tight, with dogmatic certainty, to progressive ends.

  9. happyfeet says:

    I’m not really sold yet on the idea that the protest muppets are worthy of blog posts and such.

    They all look like they smell bad.

  10. sdferr says:

    It’s like lanolin, it just goes with the wooliness.

  11. mojo says:

    Get a Mc CLUE Hand

  12. Squid says:

    I say we send Jeff to NYC to co-opt the movement. It’s obvious that they’re just begging for the right leader to come and show them the way. Between his pimp hand, his rugged good looks, his purty words, and his drunken armored sidekick, I’m betting he could have that rabble marching on Rockefeller Center within a couple hours. Letterman and Stewart would be burnt at the stake before the ashes at 30 Rock had time to cool. With the networks in disarray, the Owwie Army would start working its way through the Sorosphere and some of the nastier NGOs over by the UN. Then Martha Stewart would show up and serve mulled wine to everyone.

    By this point, the Armadillo would have rounded up all the buses from the Transit Authority, at which point the Owwie Army would head to Washington, where things would get really interesting…

  13. bh says:

    Heh.

    Now I want that made into a movie whether it happens or not.

  14. SGT Ted says:

    — but in reality, let me propose that what is happening here (and in other stories like this) is that the progressive media is laying the foundations for what they’ll argue is the considered necessity of a new leadership class — a movement elite, if you will — that controls the message, organizes the army of slavish followers, and ultimately takes over as the architects of The Cause. Among that elite? The progressive media itself, naturally.

    Jeff, These clowns are not even up to the level of organization that the Anti-War protestors achieved and we all knew that they were astro-turfed street theater despite the medias attempt to hide the more unsavory, pro-terrorist/anti-US theme.

    Maybe the media would like to think they are going to jump out in front of this parade and lead it, but there’s no “there” there. It is a fantasy. More people go to bars each night than to OWS, but no one is claiming that its some sort of significance.

    The OWS “movement” is about the sorriest astro-turfed amalgamation of Marxoids to hit the streets ever. No one is buying the media hype and spin that this is anything but the usual collection of lazy, leftwing malcontents looking for more free shit. The human debris are showing just how immature and naive they actually are, and the media cannot hide it from the average Joe.

  15. sdferr says:

    Average Joe Kernan still doubts that all the Owwies from across the country collected together wouldn’t fill one good sized college football stadium, or roughly 50,000 seats. I haven’t seen anything to contradict him.

  16. dicentra says:

    perception is reality…

    Bullsplat.

    Perception is powerful, but reality is still reality, regardless of your skewed vision of it.

    That’s part of what we’re seeing in this article—which I still find hilarious if only for the perplexity of the drummers who honestly didn’t think their permanent block party would turn all fascist and stuff. Their fantasies, powerful though they are, cannot overcome The Immovable Object.

    let me propose that what is happening here (and in other stories like this) is that the progressive media is laying the foundations for what they’ll argue is the considered necessity of a new leadership class — a movement elite, if you will — that controls the message, organizes the army of slavish followers, and ultimately takes over as the architects of The Cause.

    Well, of course they are. But that imbecile Beck kept yammering on about it as long as two years ago, showing what happens when you read The Coming Insurrection and listen to Van Jones and that other guy inform their flocks about the real agenda versus the messaging. And then I re-read Animal Farm last year.

    So I was wholly unprepared to interpret this event correctly.

  17. Entropy says:

    While I’m sure each and every protestors motivations are evil, convuluted, and insane, they are inept to a degree that, you know what? Fuck it. I’m not even going to try to quantify the degree.

    English won’t cut it we all have to learn German now.

    I hope these guys stay out there till 2012. 2013. 2057. I say we fence them in and no one gets out until their new ad-hoc society has a functioning space program.

    There’s a lot of serious learning moments here. Even somewhat non-politically it is interesting as a social expiriment. This protest is routinely demonstrating some normally unseen but basic truths. Maybe a hippy or two will even wake up in the face of it.

    But above and on top of all that, it’s goddamn hillarious.

    And the OWS crew frighten me none at all.

    They couldn’t overthrow a paper bag.

  18. Jeff G. says:

    I recognize those “community disorganizing” points from somewhere, sdferr…

  19. leigh says:

    Regressive taxes on the drummer elite? Check.
    Freedom of speech squelched by the Authorities? “Remember, you’;re not to give anymore interviews.” “Yes, Boss.”

    I think it’s time for a coup.

  20. sdferr says:

    “Two and three times the [good things]” quoth my old tutor Larry Bern, having his way with Aristotle.

  21. LBascom says:

    perception is reality…says the magician.

  22. Entropy says:

    I’m currently pondering whether I want to go on down to Occupy Chicago this weekend and see if I can’t just party my ass off all weekend and exploit the hippies naivete.

    I have an overwhelming desire to go jack their shit, and/or watch them jack each other’s shit, and whenever anyone complains just start screaming “Private property IS theft!”

    And I can’t wait till any of the many things I know will eventually happen happen, so I can see how they happen. Who are the Girondists this time? Will it be the drummers that get exhiled first, or the facilitators? Or the homeless bums? Or will the whole hippynation grow fat in their peace dividends and end before it can start when they’re invaded by Policeistan? When does Cuffy Meigs show up? Will the inevitable seperatist factions actually turn violent and try to kill one another, or will it just be some lame ass hippy downtinkle, turn your backs and shun thing?

    If I don’t comment for the rest of the weekend, it’ll be because I’m downtown in a tent, smoking all their drugs, banging all their women, eating all their food, sleeping with my muddy boots in their tents, until I take off with all their money and go back to work on Monday.

  23. dicentra says:

    Jeff, These clowns are not even up to the level of organization that the Anti-War protestors achieved … The OWS “movement” is about the sorriest astro-turfed amalgamation of Marxoids to hit the streets ever.

    The morons who show up on YouTube and who are interviewed for articles are just as sorry and clownish as you think they are.

    But the real backers and organizers behind OWS are smart enough to stay away from the cameras and reporters. It’s to their advantage for the movement to be thought silly and impotent. At least at this point.

    This allegedly “loosely organized” protest has managed to raise a cool 300K. A four-color, free newspaper (“Occupied Wall Street Journal“) showed up within days of the beginning of the protest (funded by Soros, The Tides Foundation, Code Pink, etc.).

    Oh wait. Someone talked: The organizers of these “spontaneous” demonstrations are all of the usual suspects:

    The Working Families Party
    SEIU
    ACORN
    The New Party
    The DNC
    Democratic Socialists of America
    The Tides Foundation
    George Soros
    The Obama Administration

    And then there’s SEIU’s Stephen Lerner, who plans to wage economic terrorism through “direct action” (read: mob violence), including refusing to pay mortages and student loans and who knows what else.

    It’s true that the drum circles, by themselves, couldn’t bring down the economy of a hot dog stand, but given permission to riot, to break stuff up, to not pay their loans, or to engage in other types of disruptive mischief, they’ll wreak havoc.

    The 1960s radicals have had 40 years to analyze where they went wrong in the 60s: for one thing, back then they didn’t have their own people installed at the top of every gubmint agency from the White House on down, and for another, they didn’t have a generation of kids educated on Howard Zinn and “participation trophies” to manipulate, nor did they have a weakened world economy on the verge of collapse.

    Or Soros, his money, and the dozens of organizations he spawned for the express purpose of taking out the U.S. and installing his Open Society.

    Don’t underestimate these thugs: if 19 Islamist zealots can take out the towers, a few thousand hippies can be deployed strategically enough to deliver the final kick to the termite-riddled economy.

    It’s already too late to turn this thing around. Just hold your family close and brace for impact.

  24. geoffb says:

    July 29th 2011 Workers World. “Stop the bull, then occupy Wall Street”

    And now they are forming their own Committee of Public Safety Security Committee .

  25. Entropy says:

    It’s to their advantage for the movement to be thought silly and impotent. At least at this point.

    Regardless, this particular movement will remain always silly and impotent.

    When I say ‘this movement’ I’m not talking about the whole damn kit and kaboodle of the commies.

    They have, no doubt, lots of dangerous and deranged schemes afoot.

    But ‘#Occupy’ specifically, will go nowhere. And these boots on the ground – the mass of the common footsoldiers who have assembled – I’d rather have Arabs and Frenchman beside me. These goobers are fodder at best.

    The (racial) rioting and flash mobs…

    Well. If you fear that sort of type of thing may occur, that is what to fear.

    OWS? Take away the drums and the drugs and the sex tent and turn on the freezing winter, you’ll have 2 left that give a shit why they were actually there. I mean besides to sleep in tents in a fuckin awesome, meaningful, like political, like, communal, empowerment, getting the truth out, you know, just you know, like, this really cute chick, and like drums, and like… getting our message heard, you know. We just want to get our message heard which is, our message, umm, like, our message, it’s like, um, like, people should like, it’s so bullshit man! cuz like, fuck capitalism and stuff.

    We’re gonna like change the world and stuff, dude.

  26. sdferr says:

    Don’t got no freezing winter down here for the most part. We do have about 12 morons camping unlawfully in the city park, cited with $135.00 fines each by the city police today though. Sooner or later, they’ll be forcibly cleared out I reckon.

  27. Entropy says:

    You see the SEIU on the street, that’s the SEIU. You know what it is.

    You see the damn jihadi terrorist CAIR types now apparently invited walking down the street, that’s CAIR. You know what it is.

    You see the New Black Panthers walking down the street, that’s the New Black Panthers. You know what that is.

    You see OWS? That’s OWS. Just act like your cool, you can bum smokes off them.

    Otherwise if you stick your head out, they will like, get seriously harsh vibes man, and you wouldn’t like them when they’re harsh-vibing. They get really bitchy, annoying, loud, petulant, impotent, aggravating, etc. etc. Until you’ll really really wish you’d just have played it cool so they’d shut up now. So then you leave.

    Those people are high.

    And 30% homeless.

    And 95% of the homeless and 40% of the hippies are schizophrenic.

    They’re on the street because they live there.

    The drums really are the heart of this particular movement.

  28. Carin says:

    of the weekend, it’ll be because I’m downtown in a tent, smoking all their drugs, banging all their women, eating all their food,

    You gotta bring your own tent if you want to get laid. That’s what I heard. Revolutionaries w/o their own tent just don’t have it going on, if you know what i mean.

  29. mojo says:

    “Reality is that which does not go away when you stop believing in it”

    Also,it’s painful, according to Buddha.

    PS:
    Jeff, could you possibly redo your page layout? The “comments” link is too close to the stupid “like” buttons for Mr. FatFinger on the iPad…

  30. Entropy says:

    You gotta bring your own tent if you want to get laid. That’s what I heard. Revolutionaries w/o their own tent just don’t have it going on, if you know what i mean.

    You see what I mean man? YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN!?

    The OPPRESSION is INHERANT in the goddamn SYSTEM!

    PRIVATE PROPERTY IS THEFT!
    PRIVATE PROPERTY IS THEFT!
    PRIVATE PROPERTY IS THEFT!

    How many times do I have to say it man?
    PRIVATE PROPERTY IS THEFT!
    PRIVATE PROPERTY IS THEFT!

    Ok? Allright sorry, but look, that’s all I’m saying.

    As a matter of principle I will appropriate the tent of the guy banging the drums, from the communal property heap, as is accorded by my need for it.

    Didn’t you read the fucking charter? The GP committee rules from like, god, 7 weeks back? No, right YOU weren’t here.

    Fuck! God I can’t wait until winter so these fucking poseurs get out of here.

    Yo Katey! Get off your ass and help me steal this tent! This fucking faggot tourist is being lame about the property heap rules.

  31. Entropy says:

    Jesus, I just checked out Ace.

    Flaming skull stuff.

  32. geoffb says:

    Probably comes from this.

    Infuriated lower Manhattan residents went ballistic on Zuccotti Park protesters at a chaotic Community Board 1 meeting tonight while blasting politicians for allowing the siege to continue without any end in sight.

    “They are defecating on our doorsteps,” fumed Catherine Hughes, a member of Community Board 1 and a stay at home mom who has the misfortune of living one block from the chaos. “A lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are concerned about the safety of our kids.”

    Fed up homeowners said that they’ve been subjected to insults and harassment as they trek to their jobs each morning. “The protesters taunt people who are on their way to work,” said James Fernandez, 51, whose apartment overlooks the park.
    Local resident Gordon Crovitz disagrees with representatives of OWS at a Community Board 1 meeting regarding the Good Neighbor policy between the Occupy Wall Street protesters and local residents.
    William Miller
    Local resident Gordon Crovitz disagrees with representatives of OWS at a Community Board 1 meeting regarding the Good Neighbor policy between the Occupy Wall Street protesters and local residents.

    Board member Paul Cantor said that residents are fed up with the incessant racket that emanates from the protest at all hours. “It’s mostly a noise issue,” he said. If people can’t sleep and children can’t sleep because the protesters are banging drums then that’s a problem.”

    “They have to have some parameters,” said Tricia Joyce, also a board member. “That doesn’t mean the protests have to stop. I’m hoping we can strike a balance on parameters because this could be a long term stay.”

  33. geoffb says:

    Shoot, got the caption of the picture in that too.

  34. Entropy says:

    Holy crap I can’t tell if it’s a parody or not, or real.

    But it looks like the drummers just pulled the race card.

    “I am an occupier, I am a drummer, and, despite what they say, I am also a human being,” Ashley Love, a young member of the OWS People of Color Working Group, told the packed Community Board meeting last night. Mother Jones reports that Love was met with booing when she informed the locals, “It’s primarily a commercial area; not too many people live there. The majority of the drummers are people of color with low-income or no-income backgrounds, and Wall Street was built by slaves when they brought the Africans over here. The council people back then prohibited drumming because it was a way of protesting. It was a way of communication. And I just think you guys are scapegoating us.”

    The facilitators are enslaving people of color.

    On wall street. What an ironic place for them to switch sides and sell us out to the corporations.

    You know, I’m beginning to worry the Girondists just won’t be able to hack it in the new society we are creating here.

  35. Entropy says:

    “They are defecating on our doorsteps,” fumed Catherine Hughes, a member of Community Board 1 and a stay at home mom who has the misfortune of living one block from the chaos. “A lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are concerned about the safety of our kids.”

    That doesn’t just happen when you #Occupy wallstreet.

    This happens in these areas, whenever you get a large number of homeless people move into an area. Or skeezy late night bars, or casinos. Or tent camps. Hobos show up, and they poop on the doorstep, leave used condoms on your windshield.

    Gotta go out and get a bunch of wrought iron gates and fencing and security lights and cameras.

    In Chicago, I have to admit, somewhat hillariously, this happens in areas where you can’t even touch a 2 bed condo for less than $1.4M, unless you’re poor. City planning. It’s mixed income housing. Very trendy. Until the drunk hobo climbs onto your balcony and poops in your barbecue grill.

    But not really. More like poop in the $16,000 garden vase. I don’t know if that makes it a veranda or not but it sounds fancy.

    Yup… don’t the suburbs seem lame now? So glad I don’t live there.

  36. Entropy says:

    That wasn’t sarcasm I really am so glad I live outside the city.

  37. geoffb says:

    One of the drummers, Jackson Leverette, questioned why neighbors would single out the drumming when the plaza, directly across the street from the World Trade Center site, is already noisy.

    “When the construction workers are out there it actually drowns out the drums,” he said.

    Ahhhhhh….. [insert sound of small violin here].

  38. sdferr says:

    fumed

    They wrote that.

  39. Entropy says:

    Read the mother jones stuff comments.

    Like half the lefties are like, this is unworkable, embarassing. We can’t control the movement. It’s time to crack some skulls on the drummers.

    Who are just about the only fucking black people there by way.

    LOFL.

    The other half are against it and chastizing them. One dude calls it ” endogenous means”. I don’t even know what the hell that means. But I don’t care enough to look it up. The point is sometimes a bitch needs a stabbing. We just don’t know who the bitch is in the new society yet.

    Cotton don’t pick itself.

    VICTIM WORKING GROUPS, ASSEMBLE!

    COMMENCE THE FACTIONAL JOCKEYING!

    Using human microphones, I hope.

    Marathon shouting-down matches with the drummers over noise complaints that grinds all other business in the whole society to a halt while the hobos are still busy looting the property heap.

    That is the next evolution of democracy.

    I’m gong to cry with laughter.

  40. sdferr says:

    I’ll take a stab Entropy — how about “means begotten on the inside” or “means begotten in the innards”? Like, shit.

  41. Entropy says:

    Oooh. Here’s the other thing that happens when you live on the street. The other part of the street ecosystem.

    “He pulled his shirt halfway up and showed me he had a piece,” said Jason Kersten, who works in the camp’s security group. “This is a peaceful protest. You don’t bring a gun.”

    Kersten acknowledged that someone used a racial epithet.

    “The N-word was used by some people in the camp,” he said.

    Also, stunningly, unfortunately, deeply and offensively racist.

    Red on Red. The fascists and the communists are fighting in the parks.

    Christmas has come early.

  42. Pablo says:

    Well, of course they are. But that imbecile Beck kept yammering on about it as long as two years ago, showing what happens when you read The Coming Insurrection and listen to Van Jones and that other guy inform their flocks about the real agenda versus the messaging. And then I re-read Animal Farm last year.

    Did you catch this bit, dicentra?

    “Let’s see if I have this right,” Glenn said. “Marxist, communists, anarchists, revolutionaries, and Muslim extremists will join to destabilize capitalism and overthrow the western way of life.”

    “Can you imagine having somebody say something so stupid that. That will never happen you idiot,” Stu joked.

    “They don’t have common goals,” Pat added.

    “It looks like the headlines are taken from old scripts of the show,” Glenn said.

    “In January I wrote these things on the board. Two years ago I told that SEIU would organize people to protest in the streets in Wall Street. How is this — how are your neighbors saying he’s a crazy man? It’s amazing to me,” Glenn added.

    I wish they had the audio of that segment available. I’d like to declare Beck a prophet at this point, but the fact is that all he needed to do was pay attention and do the math.

  43. Pablo says:

    Like half the lefties are like, this is unworkable, embarassing. We can’t control the movement. It’s time to crack some skulls on the drummers.

    Who are just about the only fucking black people there by way.

    Hmmmm…

  44. Pablo says:

    It’s primarily a commercial area; not too many people live there. The majority of the drummers are people of color with low-income or no-income backgrounds, and Wall Street was built by slaves when they brought the Africans over here.

    What? The? Fuck?

  45. Pablo says:

    You gotta bring your own tent if you want to get laid. That’s what I heard. Revolutionaries w/o their own tent just don’t have it going on, if you know what i mean.

    I’m thinking that a nearby hotel room and promises of room service makes a guy The King about now. Which is sort of like being the big fish in a hopelessly polluted pond.

  46. Entropy says:

    What? The? Fuck?

    Just roll with it dude.

    Facilitators are racist drum haters.

  47. geoffb says:

    President Walesa is not going to get involved with the OWS. He is not comfortable with the “organizations” behind the movement. It was not a difficult discussion.

  48. happyfeet says:

    that’s good news but it makes you wonder if Mr. Lech has even a passing acquaintance with google

  49. sdferr says:

    This spring, when President Obama visited Poland, President Walesa refused to meet with him.

    I don’t recall hearing about that.

  50. Pablo says:

    Using biggovernment.com plus other news sources, rapidly we painted an accurate picture of the groups training, leading, and organizing the “movement.” The movement is organized by anarchists, Code Pink, the American Communist movement, jihadists, anti-Israel, socialist, and anti- free enterprise interests. OWS folks are politically to the left of President Barack Obama.

    At the Lech Walesa Institute Foundation in Warsaw, they were thankful to receive this information.

    Based on our discussion and intervention, President Walesa is not going to get involved with the OWS. He is not comfortable with the “organizations” behind the movement. It was not a difficult discussion.

    Huh. You don’t say.

  51. SDN says:

    Pablo, “amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics” exhibit A

  52. Entropy says:

    that’s good news but it makes you wonder if Mr. Lech has even a passing acquaintance with google

    Well it was good of him to stand against the Evil Empire and all, but if he’s not net-saavy fuck him, he’s disqualified.

    Mitt Romney then.

  53. happyfeet says:

    he should’ve googled over a week ago instead of lending his imprimatur to a bunch of commie losers is all I mean

  54. dicentra says:

    I’d like to declare Beck a prophet at this point, but the fact is that all he needed to do was pay attention and do the math.

    He’s got another asset that many people don’t have: he’s had his life come unhinged overnight (at least once), so it’s easier for him to believe that Bad Things Can Happen Yes, To Us, To The U S Of A. Most people are so enmired in their normalcy bias that they can’t fathom that things won’t go on forever as they always have.

    The “prophesying” didn’t start until he moved to NYC in 2006 for the TV show with CNNHeadline, and then someone way high up in the financial industry (“Deep Throat”) took him aside and said, “Glenn, you’ve got to warn people about the shenanigans in world finance. There’s a perfect storm coming.”

    So Glenn started reading up on finance, and his radio show began to take a decided turn AWAY from the wicked-funny comedy he had done up until then. He lost listeners: “Bring back Teh Funny, Glenn!” Station managers called: “Knock it off with the downer stuff or we’ll drop your show.” Stu mocked him worse than usual for his bomb-shelter mentality.

    So yeah, he went on this crusade for the money, because it was such an obvious opportunity to make a quick buck.

    I think Liberal Fascism is what launched his interest in the progressive movement. I remember he used to sit there at the mic with LF open and read passages straight out of it. And then when the housing bubble crashed in 2008 and Obama was elected, suddenly people started paying attention to Glenn’s wild flailing about.

    As for those of us who’ve been in academia: we know these people. We know their zealotry, we know their twisted understanding of reality, and we know that many of them crave power and are more than happy to use their clever little minds to tease away our liberties, our property, and our very souls, given the chance.

  55. Ernst Schreiber says:

    As for those of us who’ve been in academia: we know these people. We know their zealotry, we know their twisted understanding of reality, and we know that many of them crave power and are more than happy to use their clever little minds to tease away our liberties, our property, and our very souls, given the chance.

    The real threat is that they are the ones that create the space for the really vile and dangerous ones to work in. The academy is filled to overflowing with Snowballs, but I doubt you’d find more than one or two Napoleons among them.

  56. geoffb says:

    Occupy Central Park coming 11-11-11.

    The conflicts among occupiers can’t continue forever, and the most passionate organizers know this. They’re planning to “Occupy Central Park” next month — on 11-11-11 — and hope the move will bring the protesters together again and unite them with their counterparts across the world.

  57. sdferr says:

    It is more than passing strange that the Owwies don’t bother to see the conflict in the clash of their own demands or proclamation, that on the one hand, they know better how to organize the whole of society, with, on the other hand, their practical demonstration that they can’t organize themselves in the simplest terms of their day to day life as a little society. If only they’d look close enough, they might even learn something from their follies. But would looking be too much like work, entailing profit?

  58. dicentra says:

    they can’t organize themselves

    Self-organization is the basis of the free market and of the self-rule our Founders perpetuated in the Constitution.

    Progressivism requires a Strong Hand to order society from above.

    So their moronic fumbling about may just result in their crying out for that Strong Hand to make it all better, after they’ve effed it up but good.

    So maybe there’s a contradiction…

    And maybe it’s all according to plan.

  59. dicentra says:

    The real threat is that they are the ones that create the space for the really vile and dangerous ones to work in.

    Exactly. They’re fairly good at tearing things down, at subverting values and narratives, but they have no concept of what Real Evil looks like, so they never detect the Charming Psychopaths who are inevitably attracted to the opportunity for power.

    Instead, they’re fairly hypnotized by the Stalins, Hitlers, Castros, Mussolinis, and Chávezes, and end up gladly furthering their quests for Absolute Power, praising them even as they’re lined up against the wall.

  60. sdferr says:

    The thing is dicentra, I doubt that the many minds of the Owwies all fall out as well ordered as that, according to plan, that is. That there may be here and there individuals holding to a plan, well sure, that’s possible, even probable. But the foot-soldiery? In any case, onlookers don’t seem to be impressed with the beauty and shining rationality of the thing, expressing themselves more nearly with disgust at what they see. So I don’t think the silly creatures will get very far with the larger society in which they hold their little play-acting at self-government.

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  62. Patrick Chester says:

    perception is reality…

    Bullsplat.

    Perception is powerful, but reality is still reality, regardless of your skewed vision of it.

    That might explain why no one ever takes up my offer to have them jump off a tall building and perceive that they can fly under their own power or walk into incinerator whilst perceiving they are fireproof, etc.

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