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“Unmasking Obama”

Thomas Lifson, The American Thinker:

Obama is a literary pretender. Case closed. The evidence is overwhelming that Bill Ayers ghost-wrote Dreams from my Father, the book which established Obama’s pose as a brilliant writer (and therefore a fine mind, in the estimation of many). The stylistic resemblance between the Dreams and Ayers’ work is stunning. Now we know, thanks to Chris Andersen’s new book,that Obama hit a brick wall trying to fulfill his contract to produce a book, and shipped off his notes and tapes to Ayers. That is the classic description of a ghost writer’s assignment. And it completely fits the theories Cashill had inferentially reasoned from the data of his literary studies.

The revelation that Chris Andersen had two separate sources means that this fact meets the journalistic standard of reliability, provided by a respected, established bestselling author. Obama’s dismissal of Ayers as “just a guy in the neighborhood” has been shown to be an outright lie.

[…]

The image of Obama packing boxes full of tapes and notebooks and hauling them over to Ayers’ house a couple of blocks away, is simple and compelling evidence of a ghost writer being put to work. Jack’s literary detective work made the case, and Andersen’s two neighborhood sources confirm it.

Anyone who refuses to deal with this issue is willfully avoiding topics that make Obama look bad. The facts are in the public domain.

The New York Times has just appointed a new editor to monitor online conservative websites and talk radio, to make sure the paper doesn’t embarrass itself again, as it did on the Van Jones and ACORN stories. Unlike every other editor, the Times is keeping the name of this editor secret.

[Jill Abramson, the managing editor for news,] and Bill Keller, the executive editor, said last week that they would now assign an editor to monitor opinion media and brief them frequently on bubbling controversies. Keller declined to identify the editor, saying he wanted to spare that person "a bombardment of e-mails and excoriation in the blogosphere."

So, whoever you are at the New York Times, you’re probably reading American Thinker as an unpleasant duty. If I knew who you were, I’d bombard you with a polite note laying out the trail for you to follow on this important story. The President of The United States lied when he claimed that “I actually wrote them [his books] myself.”

I think that’s news that’s fit to be printed, even if uncongenial to the incumbent Democrat president. Don’t you?

It was a little more than one year ago when I first got wind of the Cashill investigation into Obama’s authorial authenticity, which prompted me to write a piece dealing with the idea of authorship and identity, using the possibility of Ayers having ghost written Obama’s Dreams as an occasional for argument:

The charge of having one’s memoir molded into literary shape by an unrepentant domestic terrorist (now “education reformer” and “former radical,” if you believe the spin doctors and the media sycophants, many of whom likely fantasize about “hitting the streets,” fighting the “Pigs,” and plunging their peckers vicariously into an earthy, hairy-pitted Bernadine Dohrn, circa 1970) is a serious one — and I do not wish to present the accusation lightly.

Nevertheless, we already know that one member of the Obama/Biden ticket has a tendency toward plagiarism; so it would be no great leap to find out that the principal — in addition to having his political coming out launched by Bill Ayers, might have had help, also, shaping the narrative and story that has, since its publication in a pair of memoirs, created the public persona of “Barack Obama.”

Jack Kerouac’s On the Road, literary “detectives” recently discovered, was in fact a carefully constructed piece edited and labored over to give it the appearance of a free-flowing bit of extemporaneous observation and insight. And of course, such literary technique is hardly new — or even in any way disreputable: successful stream of consciousness fiction is perhaps the most carefully constructed of all imaginative fiction, relying for its power on giving the perception of the thought process rendered in words, without mimicking the thought process in any but the most conventional and superficial ways (compare its output to, eg., “free writing”). The genre is, in a sense, self-enclosed and self-fulfilling — a celebration of a particular technique that simulates a referent that is, when all is said and done, nothing more than itself.

Which is why when I talk of Obama’s memoirs, I place “Barack Obama” as literary construct in quotation marks: there is, in any verbal recounting, necessary recourse to narrative technique and tropes — so it is hardly controversial to separate Barack Obama from “Barack Obama” as he exists in words alone.

Where the interest lies is at the point of agency and authorship. For if Bill Ayers has indeed ghostwritten at least portions of Barack Obama’s memoirs, as some are alleging, then it is fair to say that the “Barack Obama” of those memoirs is more even than a construct: he is at least partially a fictional character, given that it is “his” words that ostensibly create “him” — making it follow that, if the words creating him are not his own, then “he” is really a kind of living literary portmanteau, a blend of influences, an ontological hybrid insofar as he exists publicly.

To be clear, there is a gradation of difference between the “narrativized” and slightly fictionalized version of “oneself” that is the inevitable product of writing in the genre of memoir or autobiography, and the narrativized and slightly fictionalized version that is the product of a ghostwritten piece. And that difference occurs on the level of the language used to create the “oneself” construct.

If the charges are true, and Obama’s memoirs were in fact written by Bill Ayers, at least in part, than it is clear that at least in part, Barack Obama is a creation of Bill Ayers, not with respect to the historical events of Obama’s life, but with respect to how those events are presented, and how the presentation itself speaks to the “person” doing the presenting.

On that meta level, “Obama,” as we’ve come to know him through his memoirs, is more Ayers than he is Obama. Because from the perspective of “literariness” (if such a thing can be said to exist), the presentation is equally as important as the presented.

Meaning that Obama’s ties to Ayers go even deeper than we’ve previously surmised. Because if true, these revelations over authorship strongly suggest that Ayers is, in a very real sense, “Obama’s” creator.

To the careful reader, it is clear that no where in my argument did I claim agreement with Cashill — in fact, I specifically noted in the comments that I remained skeptical about Ayers’ involvement — but that didn’t stop a few in the left intelligensia from misrepresenting my argument in order to paint me as producing “literary criticism for the low-info voters”.

— Which, evidently, one can distinguish from the kind of literary criticism intended for our progressive betters by way of its containing, you know, an actual argument, and not merely a sneering dismissal, based on lack of proper credentials / malignancy of their political worldview, of those who offer such arguments.

My wonder is, will these condescending literary “experts” continue to hide behind their strained pedantic incredulity, or are they willing to revisit this story now that additional information is available to them — information that suggests that those of us who kept an open mind (even as we were being portrayed as racists and unsophisticated dupes for daring entertain the idea that a politician may have used a ghost writer) were far less doctrinaire in our arguments than those who, in their rush to condemn us as knee-jerk political reactionaries, were themselves guilty of having prematurely ruled the possible “absurd”…?

My guess is, they’ll suddenly find other things to do with their intellects — like, say, pretend that citation problems somehow nullify what is being cited, or that the absence of unassailable evidence is the same as not having made a compelling case.

For our part, we should make sure that this story has legs by forcing it into the public consciousness. “Barack Obama” would want it that way.

Whereas Barack Obama? Not so much.

(h/t Dan Collins)

249 Replies to ““Unmasking Obama””

  1. Squid says:

    My guess is, they’ll suddenly find other things to do with their intellects….

    So, what they lack in intellectual depth, they make up for in intellectual cowardice?

  2. Barack Obama says:

    This is not the “Barack Obama” I knew.

  3. That Torso in the Greenwich Village Brownstone says:

    Such a masterful act of creativity from Ayers, yet the son of a bitch couldn’t design a simple dynammite bomb competently to save his life.

  4. happyfeet says:

    I’m so happy you are back. Like whoopi would say I hope you are back back.

  5. Snowcone says:

    Obama is a literary pretender. Case closed. The evidence is overwhelming that Bill Ayers ghost-wrote Dreams from my Father

    Too funny.

    The “overwhelming evidence” is an anonymous claim from a People magazine hack who pointedly (for legal reasons) denied claiming Ayres wrote Obama’s book.

    Here’s the quote from Jeff’s post: “Andersen, who was gracious throughout, insisted that he had made no claim that Ayers wrote Dreams”

  6. Ric Locke says:

    I know it’s hard, alphie, but do try to keep the timeline straight in your mind.

  7. Pablo says:

    The “overwhelming evidence” is an anonymous claim from a People magazine hack who pointedly (for legal reasons) denied claiming Ayres wrote Obama’s book.

    No, that’s ancillary evidence, nitwit. Like this Andersen quote:

    Andersen continues, “In the end, Ayers’s contribution to Barack’s Dreams from My Father would be significant–so much so that the book’s language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers’s own writing.”

  8. happyfeet says:

    For real I think the burden of proof has shifted. The little president man needs to step up and show how he wrote his book all by himself using his own little president man talents. I seriously doubt anyone will back him up on that. This is the same little marxist twerp what edited that little Harvard magazine and never wrote a single little article for it.

    He’s a phony fucking loser I think.

  9. JHo says:

    we were being portrayed as racists and unsophisticated dupes for daring entertain the idea that a politician may have used a ghost writer

    In many cases, by the same folks who outed themselves as whackjobs and hysterics for entertaining the idea for the better part of a decade (and counting) that another politician used a ghost agency to wreck important Manhattan real estate.

    It kinda adds up.

  10. JHo says:

    happyfeet has the timeline straight, snowy. Watch and learn.

  11. Snowcone says:

    Like this Andersen quote:

    A vague quote from somebody who yesterday pointedly denied saying what the desperate right is trying to claim he said.

    How low can the American Right sink?

  12. Pablo says:

    A vague quote from somebody who yesterday pointedly denied saying what the desperate right is trying to claim he said.

    What has been claimed that Andersen said, snowhole? Answer carefully. Perhaps do a little reading first.

    Andersen confirmed what was said that he said. He has by no means denied it.

  13. JHo says:

    How low can the American Right sink?

    Not this low.

  14. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    My wonder is, will these condescending literary “experts” continue to hide behind their strained pedantic incredulity, or are they willing to revisit this story now that additional information is available to them

    No, you don’t, but go on. A great post nonetheless. The thing is that too many on the statist reactionary “left” agree with Ayers, so if this is true they’re not bothered in the least. See the resident alphtard for one shining example. And for someone, such as myself, who despises the statist reactionary “left” or “right” it doesn’t mean much in that Obama is a statist, liberty shredding jackass all to himself. He needs no help from the unrepentent domestic terrorist. But, it does seem to stand that ayers did a solid for O. Nice work by Andersen, Cashill and the host.

  15. DarthRove says:

    Obama, for all his vaunted supreme intelligence, has yet to understand this simple fact of politics:

    It ain’t the misdeed that gets you, it’s the coverup.

  16. Joe says:

    This alone will not bring down Obama, he is President and elected. But a sinking economy, lost war in Afghanistan, high unemployment and a vivid reminder of what Jimmy Carter malaise was like, allows who ever is challenging Obama in the next election cycle to ask some tough questions.

    I would not be surprised if Hillary is one of the first to do so.

  17. N. O'Brain says:

    “How low can the American Right sink?”

    Well, we don’t defend child sex slavery and pedophile rape, if that’s what you mean.

  18. Pablo says:

    I’m just waiting for Ashton Kutcher to bust out of the door to the White House Press Room to tell us we’ve been punked.

  19. N. O'Brain says:

    “…lost war in Afghanistan…”

    It ain’t lost yet.

    Remember Iraq.

  20. Joe says:

    N.O’Brain, I agree the war is not lost yet, but unfortunately that is the direction our Dear Leader wants to go. The Olympics in Chicago seem more of a priority.

    Michael Yon is very pessimistic too (mainly over poor leadership from the top).

  21. Joe says:

    Bush at least realized changes needed to be made in Iraq and made them. I do not get the feeling that is happening in Afghanistan or Obama has the stomach for seeing this through.

  22. Carin says:

    Joe, but Obama is really, really busy.

  23. JHo says:

    Bush wasn’t afraid to spend political capital in a land where the assassination of his character was already complete. Less than a year in, Barack Olberman can only play to the crowd.

    Including their differing world views, the respective motivations almost couldn’t be more different.

  24. Eben says:

    I think this whole kerfuffle is entirely irrelevant.

    For those of us who already think Barry is a twatwaffle in red clothes, this does nothing.

    For those who think he’s God’s Partner (snotnose), this does nothing.

    For all the rest who don’t really follow politics all that much, this does nothing.

  25. Pablo says:

    It’s a data point, Eben. And it’s an object lesson in ideological mendoucheousness to where you could show it to your children and say “Here’s a slimy asshole you don’t ever want to act like.”

  26. Blake says:

    President Obama has no character. Obama’s life is tabula rasa on which the left tries to write that which they want to see.

  27. Silver Whistle says:

    Obama is a literary pretender. Case closed.

    I don’t think we can go that far until either Dear Leader or Ayers comes clean; perhaps someone else very intimate. In any case, the story has incredible traction now, and the damage will be done to the Imperator.

    I loved one comment over at TAT – the Milli Vanilli president. That’s going to stick.

  28. N. O'Brain says:

    Rush just mentioned the Obama/Ayers connection.

  29. Joe says:

    The Milli Vanilli Presidency?

    Girl you know its true…Ayers is just a guy from the neighborhood!

    Raaaaacism!

  30. Joe says:

    The Milli Vanilli Presidency: Blame it on the right wing conspiracy!

  31. Blake says:

    Idle comment time: Just how does the left defend President Obama going to Copenhagen to pitch the Olympics with the growing problems in Afghanistan?

    Hopefully, France through Sarkozy is going to step up and fill the leadership void, because the presidency of the US has been handed off to someone ill-equipped for the job. (France? The leader of the free world is France? Huh? In the immortal words of Steve McQueen: “What the Hell happened?”)

  32. Eben says:

    It’s a data point, Eben. And it’s an object lesson in ideological mendoucheousness to where you could show it to your children and say “Here’s a slimy asshole you don’t ever want to act like.”

    I know it is, but it’s not a particularly compelling one. My point is that Jeff is the bomb but I’d like to see him spend his noteworthy time on something with a little more teeth rather than this inside baseball stuff with a loser (SEK) that no one cares about.

  33. Joe says:

    Well Blake, he could do a side trip to Switzerland, pardon Polanski, and give him a triumphal ride back to America for a visit on Air Force One. That is smart time management.

    The Secret Service will always be there to protect the Obama girls when old Roman is prowling around.

  34. SarahW says:

    “Low-information voter.” The sad thing is we were high-information voters, and we could see the mac bus coming up the hill, under which America was about to be squished.

  35. Snowcone says:

    Just how does the left defend President Obama going to Copenhagen to pitch the Olympics with the growing problems in Afghanistan?

    Obama’s not going to pull us out of Afghanistan until we’re out of Iraq.

    So, no hurry.

  36. Joe says:

    Bring them home will become the cry in Afghanistan, and that war is hard, so that is what Obama will do.

  37. TheGeezer says:

    Hopefully, France through Sarkozy is going to step up and fill the leadership void, because the presidency of the US has been handed off to someone ill-equipped for the job.

    Israel may make Sarkozy irrelevant. Unless the French want to join the fun in the ME after the bombing begins.

    And Obama is winning the Olympics for Mayor Daley.

  38. Andrew the Noisy says:

    Obama’s not going to pull us out of Afghanistan until we’re out of Iraq.

    So, no hurry.

    This is a defense…how, exactly?

    It does not demonstrate the wisdom, morality, or strategy of the decision. It merely restates the decision.

    You do know what words mean, right?

  39. Victor. says:

    The argument that SEK offered as a rejoinder to Cashill’s analysis, comparing the shared phraseology of Obama and Ayers in Dreams, is less than convincing- unless the intent was to persuade everyone that SEK is a gargantuan sophist worthy of contempt.

    SEK’s argument works from the false premise that similarities in phraseology are exclusive to Obama/Ayers, therefore all he has to do is highlight the cases (focusing on the most absurd) where similar phase and text exist. SEK is using False Logic to argue against Cashill from the start.

    The irony here is that SEK’s offering fails to approach the Cashill standard of what is worthy of being called circumstantial evidence (a standard that SEK finds rather loathsome), leaving Kaufman presenting an argument that is quite literally absurd on it’s face.

    For Kaufman’s argument to carry any weight it would have to show the repeated connection between sources (i.e. Obama/Ayers/California DMV), not the sort of one-off example that diminishes an argument never offered by Cashill, Andersen, or anyone other than SEK- exclusivity of common phraseology.

    If SEK can demonstrate that 5 or 6 of the noted phrases/wording/syntax can be cited repeatedly to, for example, Ronald Reagan, a scientific blog for Arizona High School Students, Barrack Obama and William Ayers then I think he might actually have a point.

  40. klrtz1 says:

    Sooner or later Obama is going to screw up bad. He is simply, obviously not competent to be President. This will be one more item in the indictment against the MSM for foisting this fool on America.

    Obama is so stupid he turned his domestic agenda over to Pelosi, who not only is not competent to be Speaker of the House but whose ego is even bigger than Obama’s. Pelosi will never admit she is wrong no matter how bad it gets.

  41. Andrew the Noisy says:

    Sooner or later Obama is going to screw up bad.

    The question is, will he do so bad enough to taint the next Candidate of Hope on the 16-year cycle?

    Because Jimmy Carter didn’t. We got Bill Clinton anyway.

  42. Snowcone says:

    This is a defense…how, exactly?

    Why does there have to be a defense?

    Afghanistan is the Republican’s war.

  43. RIP Ford says:

    “Afghanistan is the Republican’s war.”

    Check out who voted for it numbnuts and say that again. Besides, it’s Obama’s problem now and he won’t be able to kick the can much further. It’s part of his job. I know it’s hard and all but a decision, for once in his shallow life, will need to be made.

  44. JD says:

    Afghanistan is the war Barcky said is the one that is the most important, and he alone had the wisdom and judgment to lead us to a victory. Now, it is no longer about victory, but how to quit in the most politically palatable manner. Fuck you and your lying ilks, snotnose.

  45. Andrew the Noisy says:

    Why does there have to be a defense?

    Afghanistan is the Republican’s war.

    Pretend, for a moment, that there’s this thing called reality out there, that exists, and to which it is wise to conform. Pretend, further, that a course of action is wise or unwise within the context of this reality, and not merely in the sense of political gamesmanship. And then tell me why it is wise to allow the Taliban to return to rule in Afghanistan, that they may allow their allies in al Qaeda to plot more attacks against us.

    I await with fevered anticipation.

  46. Snowcone says:

    tell me why it is wise to allow the Taliban to return to rule in Afghanistan

    Because the cost of keeping them out exceeds the benefits of keeping them out.

  47. Andrew the Noisy says:

    I would like to see evidence to back up this assertion.

  48. Snowcone says:

    I would like to see evidence to back up this assertion.
    that they may allow their allies in al Qaeda to plot more attacks against us.

    Plotting can be done anywhere.

    Most of the 9/11 attack was “plotted” right here in America.

  49. McGehee says:

    Apropos Joe’s link and, admittedly, nothing else whatsoever (I swear), am I the only one who thinks this dude — who has played the Devil as well as Leland Palmer in “Twin Peaks” is perfect to play John Edwards in a movie?

  50. JD says:

    JFK rolls over in his grave at what his party has devolved to. A noble idea like bear any burden, pay any price would be laughed at by the modern Left.

  51. Andrew the Noisy says:

    Plotting can be done anywhere. And therefore, it seems good policy to disrupt the support systems that back those who plot. Like the terrorist base camps that train and indoctrinate them in far-flung realms. Having done so, it further seems wise not to let them take their bases and camps back to do it again. In addition, fighting against them in their native lands a) emboldens those in such lands who are their enemies, and thus potentially our friends, b) provides a welcome distraction to their plotting attacks on us, and c) provides an object lesson that the friendship of the United States is valuable, and the enmity of same to be avoided.

    Although I suppose we could just trust the CIA, NSA, FBI, and TSA to stop the next one.

  52. Snowcone says:

    A noble idea like bear any burden, pay any price

    Because Vietnam was soooo worth it, right?

    Hey, look at this bunny:
    The Dow is up 15 percent, its biggest gain since a surge of 17.1 percent in the final quarter of 1998, when the dot-com bubble was still inflating.

    The Dow just had its best quarter in 11 years!

    Looks like Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time after all.

  53. happyfeet says:

    that guy’s too old but he was great in Reaper and I am very sad that it was canceled but I think that fat doughy Al Gore worshiper leo dicaprio moron one would make a very nice John Edwards.

  54. Old Texas Turkey says:

    .And Obama is winning the Olympics for Mayor Daley.

    T’is true that we elected the Head of the Greater Chicago Cook County Chamber of Commerce and told him he can sit in the White House for four years.

    How low can the American Right sink?

    Not as low and deep into the riverbed mud that this President has sunk you … millstone that he is. What is sad is that he has taken every decent person of color who has worked tirelessly to overcome the stereotype of shiftless, race huckstering, grievance mongering, poverty pimping douchebag down with him. No one realizes that.

    Too funny.

    They say that predators can smell fear. Boy, you reek like stale pee pee.

  55. JD says:

    Oh good fucking Allah.

  56. DarthRove says:

    I like movies where Leo DiCaprio gets killed.

    Except Titanic. That was beyond my ability to endure.

  57. B Moe says:

    The Dow is up 15 percent, its biggest gain since a surge of 17.1 percent in the final quarter of 1998, when the dot-com bubble was still inflating.

    The Dow just had its best quarter in 11 years!

    After a fall like that you are impressed by a big bounce?

  58. N. O'Brain says:

    “Afghanistan is the Republican’s war.”

    Liar.

    Again.

  59. Abe Froman says:

    After a fall like that you are impressed by a big bounce?

    Well, we can strike all manner of finance jobs off the list of possible snowcone occupations. Maybe someone can explain to him that if you have ten gumballs and lose nine, and then subsequently get one back, you have a 100% increase in gumballs! Math hard.

  60. Old Texas Turkey says:

    The Dow just had its best quarter in 11 years!

    Looks like Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time after all.

    The dollar is down 16% YTD. Which means in real terms you;re majik stocks are up 1% before transaction costs and taxes and inflation. How’d you like them apples? Oh and that cash you have in the piggy bank? Lost 16% of its value compared to the rest of the world. And your house? How much has it lost? So are you better off under Barack who wants to blow out the deficit and debt somemore promising shit to people who really dont need or deserve it? Is that cool with you? Tell me, is it? Cause your boy tripling the debt has a cost. Its called the US Dollar. Who the fuck d’you think you’re stepping to with this stock bullshit? Cause if you think you want to, then you better bring it.

    Oh I forgot, Stocks, currencies, house prices are all Republican constructs. Baracky don’t have to take any responsibility. So even if he fucks it 7 ways to Sunday, hey how about them olympics?

    Fuck you Snotcone. You will die decapitated by the Islamofacists or riddled with disease after a brief career as a fluffer in Chinese porn.

  61. william says:

    “The Dow just had its best quarter in 11 years!”

    SEPT CHICAGO PURCHASING MANAGERS INDEX: 46.1 V 52E
    **sub-indices:
    – Prices Paid: 51.3 v 50.0 last
    – New Orders: 46.3 v 52.5 last
    – Employment: 38.8 v 38.7 last
    – Inventories: 38.9 v 27.5 last
    – Supplier Deliveries: 49.3 v 54.6 last
    – Production: 47.2 v 52.9 last
    – Order Backlogs: 36.7 v 45.8 last

    “Let’s see…. besides the topline miss, we have prices paid up (bad), new orders down (bad), employment up 0.1% (marginally better to flat), inventories up (bad if you’re not selling ’em!), supplier deliveries down (bad), production down (bad) and order backlogs collapsing (really bad.)” – Denniger

    Add to that the TRILLIONS more in debt we have, therefore, the TRILLIONS more in taxes we will have to pay and by-gum we got ourselves a recovery…and a jobless, recoveryless one at that. Why just look at the Dow!

  62. BJTexs says:

    Afghanistan is the Republican’s war.

    Really? (Make note of the site linked.)

    On September 14, 2001, the House of Representatives voted 420-1, and the Senate voted 98-0, to authorize the president “to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons.” This congressional authorization of the “war against terrorism” was signed by President Bush on September 18, 2001.

    Huh, and to think they could have solved all of this with a Mile High Dirt Berm.©

  63. B Moe says:

    “Afghanistan is the Republican’s war.”

    Liar.

    Oooh, I think he is telling the truth there. The Democrats are only interested in plundering this country, they will not defend it.

  64. Slartibartfast says:

    when the dot-com bubble was still inflating

    Oh, that is so counter to leftoid talking points. That was the Clinton Economy you’re referring to.

  65. happyfeet says:

    Sometimes with gumballs it’s fun to chew them especially the bubblegum kind.

  66. agile_dog says:

    They said there wouldn’t be math in this thread!

    Snowcone, care to see a chart of my 401K balance over the last 20 months? The recent
    uptick is nice, but the current endpoint is still WAY below the starting point.

  67. agile_dog says:

    Sometimes with gumballs it’s fun to chew them especially the bubblegum kind.

    But can you blog comment and chew at the same time? :-)

  68. JD says:

    BJ – Digby already demonstrated for us how the Left views the war in Afghasnistan. It was not a pretty picture, if you recall.

  69. sdferr says:

    The one big problem with unmasking Obama is that once he has taken off the mask — or you remove it forcefully for him — there is nothing to be found underneath. Shelby Steele, for one, made that observation before the first year of campaigning was done. Obama has simply never done the work to make himself anything other than the mask, though he has done all kinds of work to create a fiction.

  70. Blake says:

    William,

    Have you seen Denninger’s post about mortgage losses?

    The numbers are staggering.

  71. happyfeet says:

    practice maks perfct

  72. william says:

    Blake,

    I read Denniger, Mish, Ritholtz, Hennesey, Calculated Risk, and Daily Reckoning on a daily basis. It really is depressing.

    Best,

  73. newrouter says:

    the original baracky hand written dreams manuscript is kept with the il. state senator’s other papers.

  74. JHo says:

    Jobless recovery? One wonders what entitlement snoblo’s on that makes it immune to this.

    Speaking of no-bubble futures, it seems Kerry and that freakshow Boxer have just introduced an even bigger national energy tax bill than anyone thought possible.

    Welcome to Thunderdome, folks. Combined with the government taking over healthcare by stealth via open-worded bills, we’re looking at tumbleweeds as far as the eye can see.

    /threadjack.

  75. RIP Ford says:

    “The numbers are staggering.”

    Absolutely. Anyone who reads anything similar from numerous websites over the past year knows that blowing you’re horn about an overinflated stock market is completely insane.

    Wait till the commercial market really starts to collapse. Oh boy, we’re still in for a ride.

  76. Mikey NTH says:

    Comment by Eben on 9/30 @ 11:55 am #

    Eben – I agree with you on your assesment, and in the first post this month on this subject I said much the same thing.

    Later in that post’s thread I did say that the truth of the matter does have value. I still believe that. It is part of a pattern, it shows what type of man the President actually is.

    Even if Barack Obama read over Ayers’ draft, made his own changes and corrections to the draft, it isn’t actually his own writing.

  77. Mikey NTH says:

    Comment by Joe on 9/30 @ 12:26 pm #

    The President can’t pardon Polanski because the charges were in state court; no violation of federal law was charged. Only the governor of California can pardon Polanski, and the governor hasn’t (wisely) said anything yet.

  78. Synova says:

    Having a ghost writer isn’t actually a bad thing, is it?

    I mean… it’s only a bad thing in Obama’s case because 1) it’s Ayers, and 2) his being an “author” was one of the proofs of his brilliance and counted as an accomplishment preparing him for the presidency right up there with “community organizer” and “edited the Law Review.”

  79. Synova says:

    Oh, and 3) He lied about it.

  80. geoffb says:

    #47

    “tell me why it is wise to allow the Taliban to return to rule in Afghanistan”

    “Because the cost of keeping them out exceeds the benefits of keeping them out.”

    This is true from a certain viewpoint but evasive because it is incomplete in order to avoid certain things which don’t go down as well with the public. It should be rephrased to be:

    Because the short term political cost for the Party of keeping them out exceeds the foreseeable political benefits for the Party of keeping them out.

  81. Mikey NTH says:

    Comment by DarthRove on 9/30 @ 2:39 pm #

    Titanic had a big ship sinking. You can ignore the love story and just watch the world of 1912 and the sinking and that is good for me. A Night To Remember was a better story, but the special effects in Titanic were great.

  82. Bob Reed says:

    Great follow up JeffG,
    So it would seem that another step has been taken toward the unmasking of the phony construct that is Obama, and perhaps how the disconnect between that construct and who he really is influences all of the other issues that he beat the drum about during the last election; you know, as opposed to what he’s actually doing about them all.

    So regardless of how much william, snowcone, and the others want to entreaty us to look at the other “bunnies” on the field today, let’s deny them satisfaction of hanging the mission accomplished banner and derailing the topic that Jeff is examining in this thread. I mean, it’s just like he said in the post, they’ll want to talk about anything else except for the unmasking of Obama’s ghostwriter. Not only because it undercuts the alleged Brilliance! of his character’s construct, but because it further put’s the lie to his statement that Ayers was just a guy in his neighborhood; and exhibits the ease with which he’ll lie to bolster his preferred narrative as well as any case he’s trying to make.

    That said, refuting their non-sequiters is always productive, at least for the inherent STFU value!

    I wonder why they just don’t want to face the stubborn facts and admit the inconvenient truth..?

  83. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Snowcone on 9/30 @ 2:30 pm #

    A noble idea like bear any burden, pay any price

    Because Vietnam was soooo worth it, right?”

    So millions of little brown people murdered by the commies or drowned trying to escape from the commies is……ok?

    What, you use a Khmer skull as an ashtray?

    So, you’re a racist.

  84. Snowcone says:

    So millions of little brown people murdered by the commies or drowned trying to escape from the commies is……ok?

    Isn’t this supposed to be the point where some right-wing nut claims we won Vietnam?

    Stick with the script, N.O.

    Besides, it’s not like we aren’t killing civilians while we’re occupying Afghanistan:

    Afghan girl killed in leaflet drop

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090930/tuk-afghan-girl-killed-in-leaflet-drop-6323e80.html

    Hearts n’ Minds!

  85. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/30 @ 3:57 pm #

    Comment by DarthRove on 9/30 @ 2:39 pm #

    Titanic had a big ship sinking……”

    GOSHDARNIT!!!

    Where are the spoiler alerts?

  86. B Moe says:

    So millions of little brown people murdered by the commies or drowned trying to escape from the commies is……ok?

    Isn’t this supposed to be the point where some right-wing nut claims we won Vietnam?

    Can anyone really be this stupid?

  87. Snowcone says:

    Can anyone really be this stupid?

    There’s at least one person:

    Palin’s bookers are said to be asking for $100,000 per speech, but an industry expert tells Page Six: “The big lecture buyers in the US are paralyzed with fear about booking her, basically because they think she is a blithering idiot.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/sarah_lectures_tough_sell_Z6eKRnldUitBmiOfXCBjlI

  88. Blake says:

    This is too easy.

    President Obama lied about “Dreams of his Fathers” and William Ayers. This creates questions about Obama’s honesty, integrity, intellect and qualifications.

    Obama’s trip to Copenhagen removes all doubts about the above mentioned.

  89. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Snowcone on 9/30 @ 4:08 pm #

    So millions of little brown people murdered by the commies or drowned trying to escape from the commies is……ok?

    Isn’t this supposed to be the point where some right-wing nut claims we won Vietnam?”

    The American Military WON the fucking war, Democrat politicians lost the war.

    You see, the ‘cut ‘n run’ strategy is nothing new to reactionary leftist appeasers.

  90. N. O'Brain says:

    “Afghan girl killed in leaflet drop”

    Millions killed, DELIBERATELY in southwest Asia after the Democrats lost the war.

    Big fucking difference, you retartded marmoset.

  91. N. O'Brain says:

    “Besides, it’s not like we aren’t killing civilians while we’re occupying Afghanistan”

    It’s not an “occupation”, you retarded marmoset.

  92. N. O'Brain says:

    “Can anyone really be this stupid?”

    Yes. And oblivious.

  93. B Moe says:

    Can anyone really be this stupid?

    Christ, I shouldn’t have asked.

    “I apologize to the dead and their families that we haven’t voted sooner to end this holocaust in America.”

    Any chance of getting rid of this pinhead next year, Slart?

  94. Joe says:

    Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/30 @ 3:50 pm #

    Comment by Joe on 9/30 @ 12:26 pm #

    The President can’t pardon Polanski because the charges were in state court; no violation of federal law was charged. Only the governor of California can pardon Polanski, and the governor hasn’t (wisely) said anything yet.

    Why do you tell such lies Mikey NTC? Why? President Obama can do anything, including save Roman Polanski, get Chicago the Olympics, spend well over a trillion dollars adn not cause high interest rates or inflation, lower oil prices below $1 per gallon, improve fuel economy on cars on average to 50 miles per gallon of fuel, lower carbon emissions to pre industrial levels without any cost, keep sea levels stable, and make the Afghans and Pakistanis join us as liberal brothers and sisters. I cover my ears and Using songs of Obama to drown out your lies and blasphemy.

  95. Snowcone says:

    Isn’t this supposed to be the point where some right-wing nut claims we won Vietnam?

    The American Military WON the fucking war, Democrat politicians lost the war.

    Thank you for making my day.

  96. alppuccino says:

    Bush at least realized changes needed to be made in Iraq and made them.

    Yes. And that’s the very least he did. At best he was a great American president who attempted bipartisanship and got skewered for it. He never wavered in his commitment to protect America, even when all but 300 went soft on him. He brought class back to the office of POTUS after 8 years of blow jobs and bombings, and when he sees that the dignity of that office has been once again scuttled, he holds his tongue.

    Just another narrative that I will not let slide by. Like the Obama genius-myth, I do not accept the Bush incompetent-myth. Look at the character of the man. Bush read multiple books per week. Obama couldn’t even write his own stupid fictional life story. Obama’s and idiot. Prove otherwise.

  97. Blake says:

    Yeah, Snowcone, Sarah is so stupid, she has a $7 million book deal.

    I don’t know about you, but, if being stupid will get me a $7 million book deal, versus being “smart” like you, I’ll take stupid.

  98. alppuccino says:

    an idiot. and idiot he is.

  99. Abe Froman says:

    Snowclown is painful. Who else could quote an anonymous “Page Six” industry source about Palin in the same thread where he dismisses first hand accounts of the Obama-Ayers book relationship from intimates because they were obtained by a celebrity writer?

  100. Snowcone says:

    an anonymous “Page Six” industry source

    Hahaha, says the guys accepting the anonymous source of a tabloid hack as gospel in this very post.

    I believe Abe has beclowned himself harder than anyone ever has before.

  101. newrouter says:

    “Democrat politicians lost the war.”

    it was a prototype “death panel”

  102. Abe Froman says:

    Hahaha, says the guys accepting the anonymous source of a tabloid hack as gospel in this very post.

    I believe Abe has beclowned himself harder than anyone ever has before.

    Nice job of doubling down, dummy. Speaking as someone who has been “an industry source” I suppose it would be too much for a retard to understand how professional conjecture is a somewhat different animal than having quotes from people on the inside of a situation. Good lord.

  103. geoffb says:

    “This will be one more item in the indictment against the MSM for foisting this fool on America.”

    That was a failure but it was not the only one. There are five layers of vetting of a President.

    The first and in ways the most important one is at the political Party level. By putting Obama on the ballot as a Democrat the entire Party was saying “we find him, Obama, to be qualified, and competent, to be President”. If it is shown that he is not then the judgment of the Democratic Party to run qualified candidates for any office is seen to be faulty and not to be trusted.

    The media is the second layer of vetting and they too will have been shown to be untrustworthy in their judgment.

    Third would be the opposing campaign apparatus. McCain failed here. And paid the price for it. His failure was his inability to see the failures of the previous two layers.

    The election itself is the fourth but with the failures of the first three it is only amazing that it was as close as it was.

    Actual performance in office is the last vetting. It is the hardest one to fake your way through though Obama has managed to do so in other positions and is striving mightily to do it one more time.

  104. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Snowcone on 9/30 @ 4:22 pm #

    Isn’t this supposed to be the point where some right-wing nut claims we won Vietnam?

    The American Military WON the fucking war, Democrat politicians lost the war.

    Thank you for making my day.”

    Stop playing “yankee-my-wankee”

    Your Mom is gonna walk in on you.

  105. N. O'Brain says:

    “Actual performance in office is the last vetting. It is the hardest one to fake your way through though Obama has managed to do so in other positions and is striving mightily to do it one more time.”

    Unfortunately, reality has a way of cockslapping fakers and takers.

    Makers are well aquainted with it.

  106. Rusty says:

    #86
    Got a news flash for you sparky. All Taliban and Al Queda combatants are civilians.They hide behind other civilians.

    1974 a democrat congress votes to defund SVN denying them funds needed to buy arms to defend themselves. An estimated one million vietnamese die. The Khamer Rouge in Cambodia are emboldedned to murder over a million of their countrytmen. Rather than unintended the consequences were predicted.You should have studied history a little better.

  107. newrouter says:

    the ultimate death panel: democrat congress

  108. Joe says:

    Stephen Green has a different theory on Obama.

    Strangely enough, it works.

  109. B Moe says:

    SEK has lost his mind.

  110. Snowcone says:

    1974 a democrat congress votes to defund SVN denying them funds needed to buy arms to defend themselves.

    Wrong.

    Congress just refused to increase South Vietnam’s funding to make up for the jacked-up prices American war profiteers were demanding for their weapons and ammo.

    Not the same thing.

  111. Jeff G. says:

    Howso, B Moe?

    I noticed he tracked back here again, but I just deleted it. I don’t read his labored attempts to salvage his obvious bullshit arguments.

  112. SBP says:

    Let’s count the attempted NippleNut deflections in this thread, shall we?

    #5 Clumsly, mendacious spinning
    #11 Clumsly, mendacious spinning
    #35 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!
    #43 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!
    #47 Plays stupid.
    #49 Lies.
    #53 Double dose of stupidity. Yammers about Vietnam, then starts spewing lies about how wonderful the economy is under Obama.
    #86 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH! again.
    #89 PAAAAAAAAAAAAAALINNNNNNNNN!

    Conspicuous by its absence is any substantive engagement with the topic under discussion.

    Your BFF Obama is a lying moron, NippleNut. Just like you.

  113. SBP says:

    Also “clumsy”. Nothing like copy and paste to make your typos reproduce and go out to lead their own lives, wild and free.

  114. Snowcone says:

    What an insightful peak into the functioning of the Right-wing brain, SBP.

    No wonder you guys can sit through the Glenn Beck show.

  115. SBP says:

    #116 Ad hominem.

    Let’s keep the list going, shall we?

    Now, what about Obama’s book, NippleNut? Got any evidence or even a persuasive argument one way or the other?

    Didn’t think so.

  116. Mikey NTH says:

    Comment by N. O’Brain on 9/30 @ 4:17 pm #

    “Afghan girl killed in leaflet drop”

    There are some days when my desk…you’d think there was an explosion in the magazine of the USS Office Max.

  117. B Moe says:

    Howso, B Moe?

    I noticed he tracked back here again, but I just deleted it.

    I followed that trackback; you just have to see it yourself, I couldn’t begin to explain or respond to it.

  118. Mikey NTH says:

    Comment by Joe on 9/30 @ 4:21 pm #

    (1) It is Mikey NTH.
    (2) Alas, I cannot but say that which is based on my education and training! (Even if Obama wanted to grant a pardon, and Axelrod and Emanuel weren’t closely watching him to keep those presidential feet out of that presidential mouth.)

    OT: Does anyone remember the television show ‘Benson’ and the idiot governor? Obama ain’t Benson, IYKWIMAITYD.

  119. newrouter says:

    “Congress just refused to increase South Vietnam’s funding to make up for the jacked-up prices American war profiteers were demanding for their weapons and ammo.”

    In the fall of 1974, Nixon resigned under the pressure of the Watergate scandal and was succeeded by Gerald Ford. Congress cut funding to South Vietnam for the upcoming fiscal year from a proposed 1.26 billion to 700 million dollars. These two events prompted Hanoi to make an all-out effort to conquer the South. As the North Vietnamese Communist Party Secretary Le Duan observed in December 1974: “The Americans have withdrawn…this is what marks the opportune moment.” 4

    http://hnn.us/articles/31400.html

  120. SBP says:

    To the person doing the imagining, of course.

    Or to Andersen’s sources, who had first-hand knowledge.

    Nice try, SFAG.

    Plastic Jesus’ fraud got exposed on this one.

    It’s the first of many. Count on it.

  121. SDN says:

    Rusty, snowblower works in academia; they only teach history according to the Narrative.

  122. JD says:

    A Moronic Convergence with snotnose/alphie and meya/RD. Wonderfuckingful.

  123. SBP says:

    Rusty, snowblower works in academia

    Unlikely that he could hold down a job even in that environment.

    I’d bet money he’s on some form of ‘disability’ or other.

  124. Mikey NTH says:

    But back on topic, after the TTP tried again to steer things his way (ignore the lamprous one, folks; he doesn’t care who stupid he appears so long as he can derail a comments thread). Many politicians use ghostwriters. A lot of famous people use ghostwriters. That isn’t bad because people who are famous for doing things usually do not have the skills necessary to write a book so that the book is interesting to read.

    If Barack Obama had used a ghostwriter and acknowledged it that would not have been a hit against him. But the book was used as proof of his intelligence, to fill in that relatively empty resume of accomplishment. That he didn’t makes his resume even thinner than before, and calls into question everything else on his resume – ‘What did you actually do and what else have others done that you merely have put your name to?’

    Other than read words that others have written, what has he done? Has he taken a single-seat interceptor supersonic? Has he made a trap on a carrier? What has he done that hasn’t been directly supported by others, with others letting him take the credit?

  125. SBP says:

    Why, they helped him pack the stuff!

    Keep spinning and twatwaffling, SFAG.

    This isn’t going away.

  126. Snowcone says:

    ongress cut funding to South Vietnam for the upcoming fiscal year from a proposed 1.26 billion to 700 million dollars.

    Because we all know not granting an increase in military funding is really a cut, right?

    Hehe, that’s a good one, it never gets old.

    Besides, Saigon fell before the “reduced” budget was implemented.

    The North used the dropped weapons and ammo the fleeing South left on the battlefield to lay siege to it.

    So please don’t pretend it was a lack of funding that toppled our corrupt, incompetent puppets.

  127. JD says:

    At least yellowsnow is brief. Meya/RD, on top of being a lying fucking gascist, is wordy, verbose, and mendoucheous.

  128. geoffb says:

    Oh those goalposts keep on moving
    Proud meya keeps on churning
    Rollin’
    Rollin’
    Rollin’ down the drain now

  129. SBP says:

    Because we all know not granting an increase in military funding is really a cut, right?

    That’s nice, NippleNut, but we’re talking about pseudo-Obama’s book.

    Got anything substantive to say about that?

    Didn’t think so.

  130. Danger says:

    Not to interupt the trollfoolery but I will be on an R&R trip for about a week so please carry on with out me.

    Volleys down range!

    BECAUSE IT MATTERS

  131. SBP says:

    Oh, SEK is still cite-wanking.

    Hint to SEK: you might get to grade your freshmen down for that sort of thing. The rest of us just find your sputttering highly amusing.

  132. SBP says:

    Have a great time, Danger! Sounds like you’ve earned it many times over.

  133. Abe Froman says:

    Rusty, snowblower works in academia; they only teach history according

    Not a chance.

  134. JD says:

    Fuck you, snotnose. I am so fucking sick and tired of your goddam lying, rewriting of history on the fly, overall mendacity, and aggressive ignorance. You and your ilk left those brown people to be slaughtered in the wake of your fucking cowardly retreat/surrender. No amount of spiining and lying will change the fact that in order to service your Leftist agenda and teh narrative, millions were left to be slaughtered. This is the legacy of your politics, and what you admittedly want to do again in Afghanistan. Because there is no greater joy for vermin like you than sacrificing some brown people at the altar of Teh Narrative. /spit

  135. alppuccino says:

    You know Snowcone is flogging his dolphin to that last comment JD. He masturbates every time he is acknowledged. He might even have a finger in his anus on that one.

  136. Abe Froman says:

    At least yellowsnow is brief. Meya/RD, on top of being a lying fucking gascist, is wordy, verbose, and mendoucheous.

    I’m in the opposite camp. The way meya lies is a victory in itself, because he/she/it is an intelligent life form. As regards snowclown, the faint mist of stupid he emits sprays everyone and there are no winners. You only win an argument with a retard by not trying to.

  137. SBP says:

    Under water grottos, caverns

    Filled with apes

    That eat figs.

    Stepping on the figs

    That the apes

    Eat, they crunch.

    The apes howl, bare

    Their fangs, dance,

    Tumble in the

    Rushing water,

    Musty, wet pelts

    Glistening in the blue.

    A-yup.

  138. alppuccino says:

    Can I put you down for “Idiot” Spies?

  139. newrouter says:

    “Because we all know not granting an increase in military funding is really a cut, right?”

    that only works for social programs ask the demorats and medicare, social security, et al

  140. SBP says:

    Oh, that was a quote, alp.

    I forget who it was who observed (way back when this first came up) that if he or she had a freshman who turned in some shite like that, then later turned in a term paper as polished as Dreams, Questions Would Be Asked.

  141. SBP says:

    Ah, went back for context, alp.

    Yes, I think the man is an idiot, much more so than Bush.

    Idiots don’t fly fighter planes. At least not for very long.

  142. alppuccino says:

    Well, the apes are underwater so that makes the crunchy figs ironic. You know what they say, “When the pelts get musty, etc. etc.

    I call for a public IQ test for this Obama moron. The ratings would be through the roof. For the first 5 minutes. Then it would be like kittens being thrown into a chipper.

  143. newrouter says:

    oh my:

    “ACORN Plot Found, Oklahoma GOP Says
    by Publius

    From The Oklahoman:

    A Republican state legislator released documents Tuesday which he says show the community-organizing group ACORN focused on helping Democrats in three legislative races in the November 2008 election and had developed a game plan to “take power” in Oklahoma within five years.

    The documents, which include legislative district maps and various forms, were recovered from computers abandoned by ACORN workers in Oklahoma City, said Rep. Mike Reynolds, R-Oklahoma City. Also found was a script apparently used in Houston to go door-to-door to encourage voters to vote for Barack Obama in November 2008.

    “They say they’re not political, but one of the subdirectories was called political action plans,” Reynolds said. “It was their political plans to take over key targeted races in Oklahoma City to show how powerful they are.””

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/30/acorn-plot-found-oklahoma-gop-says/

  144. pdbutthole says:

    Rectal thermometer entrance, butthole

    Filled with shit

    That was food.

    Stepping on the shit

    That the food

    made, in digestion.

    The food rumbles, mushed

    The intestines, dance,

    Tumble in the

    Rushing water,

    yellow, sweet urine

    Glistening near the poo.

  145. B Moe says:

    I know it has no meaning to you, meya, but do you even recognize “nonpartisan” as a word? Can you see the letters in the quotation marks, or is it just a blank space on the screen?

  146. newrouter says:

    “Next they’ll find that acorn has plans to “associate” “community” “organizations” for “reform.” and that htey want it “now””

    nothing personal just business vinny

  147. JD says:

    What is this “we’ll”, meya. Mouse in your pocket? When you go to confession, do you talk about bearing false witness?

  148. newrouter says:

    ““Next they’ll find that acorn has plans to “associate” “community” “organizations” for “reform.” and that htey want it “now””

    no they’ll find how much of the take the radke bros. are getting for their crimminal org.

  149. newrouter says:

    #153

    the bot is stuck

  150. JD says:

    Usually, when I eat @ Taco Bell, my order runs about $7.50. Extra sour cream and bacon push that up over $10, but damn, that is good.

  151. Abe Froman says:

    The first I ever saw of the “Clinton Death List” was in the notoriously wingered Village Voice. Those rascals must have had quite a cheap beer bender at Phoebe’s to temporarily sign up for the VRWC!

  152. Darleen says:

    RD/meya

    ACORN cannot engage in political actions. That the price they WERE supposed to pay for receiving fed funds.

    The “nudge nudge wink wink” between the criminal enterprise ACORN and the Democrats re: proscribed politicking is becoming much more well known, regardless of the Dem minders in the MSM.

  153. Nan says:

    Even for Meya, #159 is incredibly childish.

  154. JHo says:

    ACORN cannot engage in political actions. That the price they WERE supposed to pay for receiving fed funds.

    And had they been a church — I know, I know — certainly they’d actually get none.

  155. B Moe says:

    This is an organization that canvassed for obama and was hired to do get out the vote work. We knew this last year. What’s the ‘plot’?

    Amazing, isn’t it?

  156. Mikey NTH says:

    Ignore the TTP’s.

    If there isn’t this autobiography, what has Barack Obama actually done? He was elected, but we already know he can campaign, and he can read words others have written.

    But politically, as a legislator in Illinois, what has Barack Obama actually done in his life other than pass the Bar? And note – a lot of people have done that.

    Barack Obama has passed undergrad and law school. He passed the bar. He got married and fathered two girls. And he has done…what?

    If this autobiography is someone else’s work, then he has accomplished…what?

  157. SBP says:

    Reminder: this thread is about Obama’s non-authorship of his book.

    Don’t let SFAG drag you off onto ACORN.

    Have patience, SFAG. There’ll be another ACORN scandal along shortly, I’m sure.

    Oh, and yeah, it’s JUST like the Vince Foster story.

    Except for all those pesky attorneys general investigating ACORN (I think it was something like 17 states the last I heard). And except for Congress defunding ACORN, along with many state governments. And except for…

    Now, do you have anything substantive to say about pseudo-Obama’s book, SFAG?

    Didn’t think so.

  158. Wm T Sherman says:

    I will post this link from time to time. A compendium of pro-war statements by numerous prominent Democrats, most of whom are still in office, in the time leading up to the Iraq War. Includes a reminder of a presidential directive (never rescinded) from the Clinton administration declaring that regime change in Iraq to be official U.S. government policy. It is an antidote for ‘progressives’ willful amnesia:

    http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

    It is linked in an essay by Bill Whittle debunking all kinds of other diseased leftist tropes:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/ejectejecteject/?s=seeing+the+unseen

  159. Wm T Sherman says:

    What is SFAG?

  160. JD says:

    Stupid fucking fascist anti-semitic gutter-tramp

  161. B Moe says:

    The sad thing is, we have been over this all before.

    Obama takes an unusually hands-on approach to his speech writing, more so than most politicians. His best writing time comes late at night when he’s all alone, scribbling on yellow legal pads. He then logs these thoughts into his laptop, editing as he goes along. This is how he wrote both of his two best selling books—Dreams from My Father and The Audacity of Hope—staying up after Michelle and his two young daughters had long gone to bed, reveling in the late night quiet.

    Right.

    Obama has leant on Favreau, whom he discovered almost by chance four years ago when the younger man was working on John Kerry’s failed presidential bid. “Favs” has since studied Obama’s speech patterns and cadences with the intensity of a stalker. He memorised the 2004 speech to the Democratic national convention which first brought Obama into the limelight. He is said to carry Obama’s autobiography, Dreams From My Father, wherever he goes. As a result, last November when Favreau sat down to write the first draft of the inaugural address, he could conjure up his master’s voice as if an accomplished impersonator.

    It’s a joke. It’s all a big joke.

  162. Snowcone says:

    oh my

    Did Breitbart ever publish his “other” story yet, or was it the NEA flop?

  163. SBP says:

    Got anything to say about pseudo-Obama’s book, NippleNut?

    Didn’t think so.

  164. SBP says:

    BREAKING: ACORN ordered to stand trial in Nevada.

    Note: not just “ACORN employees”. ACORN. The continuing criminal enterprise.

    One! Day! Story!

  165. B Moe says:

    I don’t know whether I did too many drugs back then or I need to do more now.

  166. newrouter says:

    “Did Breitbart ever publish his “other” story yet, or was it the NEA flop?”

    anybody see that bitch White House official Buffy Wicks.

  167. SBP says:

    #172: I just threw up in my mouth a lot.

  168. JD says:

    Did you find a copy of that police report and pervy Vega’s imaginary defamation suit against himself?

  169. SBP says:

    13 FELONY counts, baby.

  170. B Moe says:

    C’mon, SPB. The world is saved “thanks to Yoko Ono’s deployment of her ravishing personal beauty to dazzle and distract the guy leading the corporate opposition. His name, by the way, is Lancelot Lobo.”

    I picture her using the parrot like the stripper in Confederacy of Dunces. If I can find this thing in a used bin somewhere I am going to have to buy it.

  171. Mikey NTH says:

    So did he actually do something, write a book, or was it all another free ride on another’s work, like his speeches?

    What has he actually accomplished?

    Give TR some credit – he resigned as assistant secretary of the navy and went to face bullets (and fever) in Cuba. Give JFK some credit – he volunteered for PT Boats. (And that wasn’t safe.)

    What has BHO done in service of the country?

  172. Darleen says:

    B Moe

    I feel so sorry for reviewer Rob. He had to actually read that…er…book.

    Maybe someone should send him a good bottle of scotch or gin (and keep sharp objects out of his reach)

  173. meya says:

    “ACORN cannot engage in political actions. That the price they WERE supposed to pay for receiving fed funds.”

    And its not like they set up different corporate entities to do these separate things like other corporate and non-profit players in our society. So I guess its just one big evil acorn.

  174. B Moe says:

    Lancelot Lobo.

    Can’t
    Stop
    Laughing.

  175. SBP says:

    What I like about it, SFAG, is 13 FELONY counts.

    Read it and weep, you mendacious liebot.

  176. Snowcone says:

    ACORN cannot engage in political actions. That the price they WERE supposed to pay for receiving fed funds.

    Just like the U.S. military.

  177. SBP says:

    BTW, SFAG and NippleNut:

    Planning to address pseudo-Obama’s book any time soon?

    Didn’t think so.

    Why, one might almost think that you were desperate to change the subject.

  178. newrouter says:

    “Just like the U.S. military”

    my my stupid person w/unsubstantiated claims

  179. cynn says:

    Has anyone proved any of this shit? What does Obaba say?

  180. newrouter says:

    acorn helped with iran’s recent erection

  181. newrouter says:

    “Has anyone proved any of this shit?”

    still waiting for danrather’s update

  182. Barrack Milhouse Obama says:

    What does Obaba say?

    I am not a crook plagiarist author, aw fuck, Rahm! What the hell are they accusing me of again?

  183. cynn says:

    that’s all I need to know.

  184. cynn says:

    Sorry, meant Obama.I think I pun’k myself. LOL and all that shit.

  185. Snowcone says:

    Why, one might almost think that you were desperate to change the subject.

    Mr. Andersen said everything that needs to be said on the subject, “insisted that he had made no claim that Ayers wrote Dreams.”

    What more is there to say?

    Besides, this thread is dead, the dregs have it now.

  186. SBP says:

    What more is there to say?

    That you’re a liar, and an incompetent one at that.

  187. Darleen says:

    description: The division of work between the ghostwriter and the credited author varies a great deal. In some cases, the ghostwriter is hired to publish and edit a rough draft or a mostly completed manuscript.

    Anderson: “In the end, Ayers’s contribution to Barack’s Dreams from My Father would be significant–so much so that the book’s language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers’s own writing.”

  188. newrouter says:

    how much of valerie jarret’s real estate is for the 2016 daleyfest?

  189. Pablo says:

    Has anyone proved any of this shit? What does Obaba say?

    If people are proving things, little to nothing. Hope! Did I mention change?

  190. Pablo says:

    Tony Rezco must be pissed that he’s not getting in on this.

    In other news:

    Another from the United States said: “She frightens me because she strikes a chord with a certain segment of the population and I don’t like it.”

  191. meya says:

    “Planning to address pseudo-Obama’s book any time soon?”

    I’m convinced by the hefty literary analysis. Though I don’t know why the conclusion isn’t just that Obama was emulating Ayers, rather than Ayers actually writing Obama. But that’s why I’m not the big literary investigatory mind.

  192. SBP says:

    Though I don’t know why the conclusion isn’t just that Obama was emulating Ayers,

    That’s it. Just ignore Andersen’s two sources who claim to have personal knowledge, SFAG. I’m sure we’ll forget aaaaaaaaaaallll about that if you just ignore it.

    Heh.

  193. Pablo says:

    Though I don’t know why the conclusion isn’t just that Obama was emulating Ayers, rather than Ayers actually writing Obama.

    Because Baracky can’t write well enough to emulate Ayers. Would you like a fig?

  194. meya says:

    “Another from the United States said: “She frightens me because she strikes a chord with a certain segment of the population and I don’t like it.” ”

    The specter of her being president from 2012 to 2013 and a half is seriously worrying.

  195. Pablo says:

    Jeff @196, linky no worky.

  196. Pablo says:

    The specter of her being president from 2012 to 2013 and a half is seriously worrying.

    Booga booga!

  197. SBP says:

    Pablo: see Jeff’s new post for a working link.

  198. meya says:

    “That’s it. Just ignore Andersen’s two sources who claim to have personal knowledge, SFAG”

    Well that’s not Cashill’s conclusion is it? That’s just Andersen’s two anonymous sources. There’s no beating them. And they haven’t done the literary analysis.

  199. SBP says:

    #203: That’s it, SFAG. Try yet again to change the subject to Palin. I’m sure we’ll forget aaaaaaaaaaaallll about pseudo-Obama’s book.

  200. SBP says:

    Ah, I see. In SFAG-world, the more independent sources you have, the less credible it becomes.

    You’re scared shitless, aren’t you, SFAG?

  201. SBP says:

    Ah, back on Vince Foster again.

    You have about 5 canned responses to any stimulus, don’t you, SFAG?

  202. JD says:

    Stooopid fucking fascist anti-semitic gutter-tramp

  203. SBP says:

    I mean, Foster died 16 years ago. Surely you’ve been issued a new Lying Twatwaffle manual since then?

  204. Pablo says:

    Well that’s not Cashill’s conclusion is it? That’s just Andersen’s two anonymous sources. There’s no beating them. And they haven’t done the literary analysis.

    That’s just stupid, meya. What’s your point? That those who told Andersen that Obama looked to Ayers to help him get a book done haven’t done a literary analysis? You really are an idiot. TrollHammered. See you next week, maybe. Thanks, SBP.

  205. Pablo says:

    #203: That’s it, SFAG. Try yet again to change the subject to Palin. I’m sure we’ll forget aaaaaaaaaaaallll about pseudo-Obama’s book.

    Yeah, that’s it! Tell her about Palin’s book. It turns out that she wrote it with Lynn Vincent, a noted white supremecist.

    Bad Craziness, that.

  206. Pablo says:

    Oh, I forgot. OUTLAW!!

  207. Abe Froman says:

    @215/16: Nice job of sockpuppeting Pablo, you gutless creep. Do you really think we can’t smell the psychotic stupid on you from word one regardless of the name you comment under?

  208. Abe Froman says:

    meya I don’t remember anyone ever suggesting Ayers wrote both Obama books. As I recall, the similarities between Dreams and Ayers’ book and how drastically both differed from Obama’s second was one of the most compelling aspects of the analysis.

  209. McGehee says:

    What does Obama say?

    He’s still waiting for the ghostwriter to finish his script.

  210. Synova says:

    Okay, so what if Obama was emulating Ayers? Hey, it’s easy to do. When I’m writing if I read something with a strong and very different voice… say… Georgette Heyer… all of a sudden I’m writing in a far different register. Or even a subtler author will come through if I’ve read something over a lot.

    So what if that was so?

    If that is so it’s a strong indication that Ayers was NOT just “some guy” in Obama’s neighborhood… it means being nose deep in Ayers’s writing at the very least. If Obama wrote his first book while being nose deep in Ayers’s sh*t, then it’s quite possible that he’d emulate Ayers. (And maybe, when he wrote the second book he was reading something else.) But in any case, he can’t claim that he wasn’t *deeply* in Ayers’s sh*t.

    So what if Ayers just did a little polish on a completed manuscript? Again, the same is true… you don’t give your manuscript over to “some guy” in your neighborhood. I’ve given people manuscripts to read and I’ve been given manuscripts to read and critique. You do not make alterations of someone elses work just willy-nilly “some guy” you hardly deal with. Even minor alterations are an intimate sort of social contract. So. Same issue. Ayers isn’t “some guy” in the neighborhood.

    If Ayers did significant rewrites instead of word placement tweaks then… not “some guy” and also… Obama loses the lofty accomplishment of “author” which was supposed to impress us all so very much.

  211. B Moe says:

    And he didn’t conclude that Obama modeled Ayers. He concluded that Ayers wrote Obama’s books. Because of the patterns.

    Yup. Obama has a pattern of being lazy, very lazy.

  212. Barrack Milhouse Obama says:

    Hey dude, you ever tried to write in a moving golf cart?

  213. Pablo says:

    Whoa, easy Abe. I ran out of sarc tags ages ago.

  214. meya says:

    “Yup. Obama has a pattern of being lazy, very lazy.”

    Yeah thus all the vacations and the cocaine and the partying into his 40’s.

  215. Carin says:

    Meya, it’s time you let go of Bush.

    And, the fact is that Bush got sober after his 40th b-day party.

  216. Carin says:

    And, the cocaine issue? Seriously? Get help.

    Allegations of that were from his TWENTIES.

  217. Slartibartfast says:

    Any chance of getting rid of this pinhead next year, Slart?

    I’ll be actively supporting his opponent’s campaign, whoever that might be.

    Possibly even his Democratic opponent, if he has one. Grayson was actually showing some signs of being an accountability and waste/fraud/abuse attack dog, which made me think we might keep him around for a while, but this kind of crap is going to alienate his constituency, starting with two people in my house. His core constituency is majority Republican; the only reason Grayson won is a lot of people were tired of Ric Keller.

    He’s outlived his usefulness, less than halfway through one term.

  218. LTC John says:

    A”CORN cannot engage in political actions. That the price they WERE supposed to pay for receiving fed funds.

    Just like the U.S. military.”

    I can only think that some MTBI is responsible for that little bon mot

  219. Carin says:

    ou’re treating this as if this is such a bad thing? Nah, it’s just that sort of privileged malaise which sometimes can hit our ivy educated brethren.

    Why don’t you make TODAY the day you contribute something useful to the conversation.

  220. SBP says:

    You see the point. That is old. There is something new now.

    The point being that a) you’re a mendacious, spinning liar. An incompetent one and b) the Democratic Party has been corrupt for decades?

    Thanks for sharing your brilliant insights, SFAG, but we’ve all known about that for a long, long time.

    Got anything substantive to say about pseudo-Obama’s book?

    Didn’t think so.

  221. SBP says:

    Why don’t you make TODAY the day you contribute something useful to the conversation anything.

    Fixed that for you, Carin.

  222. SBP says:

    You’re treating this as if this is such a bad thing?

    Ask Blowbama, SFAG.

    He admitted using coke.

    God only knows what he’s on now, as he sees his personal meltdown looming.

  223. Darleen says:

    Pablo

    Charles Johnson has really really gone around the bend in the “whoever is in the same room as RS McCain is a white supremacist” schtick.

  224. Darleen says:

    …oh…and if Charles Johnson believes someone who may/may not have written other people are uncomfortable with interracial couples is a “racist” Charlie should be scribbling down Obama on his list, seeing how Obama dumped his melanin-challenged girlfriend because of her “race”.

  225. SarahW says:

    Darleen, well then. by that standard I am Spartacus a white supremacist. Nutty Charles. I wonder how he broke.

  226. Pablo says:

    LGF was a great site when Charles was focused on our enemies. Now that it’s exclusively about his enemies, it’s quite pathetic. Did you notice his new hot pink enemies list, and that Michelle Malkin leads it for *gasp* criticizing Obama?

  227. Andrew the Noisy says:

    I would like to point out that I made an argument outlining the wisdom of the Afghanistan war, which Snowcone studiously ignored. Not that this surprises, but still.

    I would also like to point out that the essence of the argument re: South Vietnam was that Congress’ vote to cut off funding was a flaming red flag to the North that said “We can invade. They won’t try to stop us.” They invaded, and we didn’t try to stop them. To say that the war was “won” might be an exaggeration. To say that South Vietnam might still exist today if we had not abandoned them is not.

    Snowcone doesn’t care about that, any more than he cares about the Afghans, whatever he might protest about the victims of falling literature.

  228. JD says:

    Why doesn’t the media ever say that Barcky is the first half-white President?

  229. DarthRove says:

    Darleen, is that the same girlfriend we heard about in “Dreams From My Neighbor Father”, or from “Audacity of Chope”?

  230. The Monster says:

    What’s the over/under on when CJ first uses the term “Ghoster” to mock those who question the veracity of Teh Won’s statement that he wrote those books all by himself?

  231. […] We’ve got a president whose parents were a college socialist and a Marxist bureaucrat. His mentor a Party apostle. His Columbia professors radicals and his Harvard colleagues thoughtful enough to hide his Soviet apologia thesis. Years of Alinsy-ite agitation, decades at an Afro-Marxist church, his cubicle-mate for years and years an unreconstructed Communist cop-killer, who probably ghostwrote his memoirses–”if true, these revelations over authorship strongly suggest that Ayers is, in a very real sense, “Obama’s” creator.” […]

  232. happyfeet says:

    Charles Johnson is a gaymo. I’m tired of hearing about him.

  233. Abe Froman says:

    Whoa, easy Abe. I ran out of sarc tags ages ago.

    LOL. Oops. Very convincing moonbateese.

  234. Scott says:

    #

    Comment by N. O’Brain on 9/30 @ 4:36 pm #

    “Actual performance in office is the last vetting. It is the hardest one to fake your way through though Obama has managed to do so in other positions and is striving mightily to do it one more time.”

    Unfortunately, reality has a way of cockslapping fakers and takers.

    Makers are well aquainted with it.

    There’s a saying in construction unions, when someone less than qualified gets a foreman position: “fake it till ya make it”….that’s a tough sell when the position is the head of the most powerful nation in the free world. Way too much riding on it. Jeff’s right, the Dem. leadership, and the mainstream media led a majority of the (apparently) willingly ignorant voting populace astray. Now we’re all screwed in too many ways to list.

  235. dicentra says:

    Hey Jeff, you got linked by Lileks.

    Granted, it’s a subscriber-only article, but then you get a better quality of readers. Meaning nobody who dwells in the filth under a bridge.

  236. Jeff G. says:

    I hate getting linked by sites that I can’t see. Makes me feel all helpless and such.

  237. meya says:

    “Ask Blowbama, SFAG.

    He admitted using coke.”

    So? Ain’t none of you party boys done that either?

  238. LTC John says:

    meya – nope. No pot, coke, nothing. I grew up in the “just say no era”. Also, my father was a consultant (pathology) to a drug rehab clinic as part of his practice. I got see and hear what druggies looked like from very early on.

  239. Jeff G. says:

    Shut up, meya. There would be no need to constantly push the “Obama critics are racist” meme if Obama zealots weren’t hoping to win votes from those who eventually pulled the lever for the One just so they can “prove” they aren’t “racist.”

    You can sneer and endeavor to ironize this insight away as yet another “winger” fantasy. But that kind of pressure only works on the kinds of weak-minded people who voted for Obama for all the wrong reasons to begin with.

    So you’re just preaching to the choir at this point.

    Can I get-uh an Amen – uh?

  240. happyfeet says:

    I don’t think there will be a single damn vote in 2012 again by someone what wants to feel not-racisty about themselves. That worked last time but that’s one crack pipe you just can’t get another hit off of I don’t think.

    And our little country is such a shambles in just 8 months of these losers. So many people are hurting.

  241. BJTexs says:

    If nothing else, Jeff and ‘feets, I’ll be more than content to not have to listen to “moderate Republicans” telling me that “the country is ready for a black/woman president.”

    Hopefully I’ll be able to stop taking the anti nausea medications.

  242. happyfeet says:

    that’s a very good point… that was mortifying to watch

  243. Jeff G. says:

    Obama is the worst thing to happen in race relations since Oprah!

  244. Rusty says:

    #256Obama is the worst thing to happen in race relations since Oprah!

    Many years ago I stood next to her at the baggage claim at Ohare. She was eating popcorn and offered me some. She is very short. The end.

  245. meya says:

    “There would be no need to constantly push the “Obama critics are racist” meme if Obama zealots weren’t hoping to win votes from those who eventually pulled the lever for the One just so they can “prove” they aren’t “racist.””

    Is it a ‘need’? and How large is this constituency anyway? Me, I think there are way too many charges of racism out there. Take the wilson outburst. No need to cry ‘racism’ here. Just note it as another of the desperate gasps of the supporters of the confederacy.

    As to whether it is a need, you also need to remember that contemporary liberals want much more than to prove they are not racist. Don’t be so sorely lacking in imagination. They also like imagining themselves back in the sixties, fighting the forces of racist southern reaction, strong liberal federal power smashing racist, state terrorist organizations and their confederate flags of hateful reaction.

  246. Jeff G. says:

    Bullshit. They want Alec Baldwin to like them, should he ever invite them to one of his parties.

    That’s about the depth of their convictions.

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