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“Andersen Claims ‘Two Sources’ for Ayers’ Role in Dreams”

Jack Cashill nets an interview with biographer Chris Andersen, who — surprise! — says he had two sources not named Jack Cashill who suggested to him that Bill Ayers was integral to the production and composition of Obama’s Dreams:

Andersen claims that the “hopelessly blocked” Obama turned to the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers to help him write his much acclaimed 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father.

When I asked about Andersen’s sources, Andersen said that he had two separate sources “within Hyde Park” but, understandably, would not elaborate.

Andersen, who was gracious throughout, insisted that he had made no claim that Ayers wrote Dreams but he did not deny Ayers’ deep involvement, conceding that Dreams is much the better book than Obama’s 2006 Audacity of Hope. This, of course, has to trouble the Obama acolytes who insist that Obama is a uniquely gifted writer.

Sure, fine, whatever.

But did Mr Cashill happen to ask Mr Andersen about his citation methodology?

No, he did not.

Thus, we can conclude in good faith that Mr Cashill is both a liar and a style guide hater, that Mr Andersen is an easily duped hack desperate to sully the reputation of the First Black President (post Clinton) — and that, consequently, anything ever written by these two men is either a lie, a fabrication, or a literary irrelevancy.

It follows, therefore, that the idea Bill Ayers may have had some hand in the writing of Obama’s Dreams remains, on it’s face, “absurd” — and that anyone who argues otherwise is motivated by the kind of odious politics that reveal an irrational racist hatred of a Good Man.

Q.E.D.

(h/t Pablo)

199 Replies to ““Andersen Claims ‘Two Sources’ for Ayers’ Role in Dreams””

  1. Mikey NTH says:

    It is a pity that we do not know who Andersen’s sources are; yet there should only be a limited pool of people who would have known that and talked to Andersen.

  2. JHo says:

    You’re a racist, Mikey NTH.

  3. JD says:

    I assume SEK is still being a mendoucheous twatwaffle …

  4. SarahW says:

    SEK knows what is true. He just can’t bear it.

  5. happyfeet says:

    It seems like the burden of proof has shifted to where someone needs to do some work to make a convincing case that Ayers didn’t help the little president man with his super-hard book project that he just never could get finished.

  6. JHo says:

    Seriously, of course I have no evidence that anyone posting here is a racist, making the point of the sarcasm one of intent. It seems to me that entire sectors of theory and law are made moot by the application/misapplication of intent — in this case that Jeff is a real SOB for doubting the established, accepted religion of secprogg land.

    That that smacks of intentionalism concerns the SEK’s not a bit…I assume.

    In the end, even reality itself is expected to bend to the application of what may and what may not be acceptably observed about its nature. If the evidence that Ayers wrote the book abounds, pointing that out runs afoul of intent, even though the egregiously fouled must use intent to make whatever broken down point they think they have.

    If I was smart I’d know how to write all that; I just find it fascinating that the self-appointed intellegentsia apparently cannot be expected to have the simple awareness that somebody’s going to notice their fraud, and only other explanation for said fraud being the simple observation that they trade in deceit and hope nobody calls them on that.

    As we say about government failure: Is it the incompetence or is it the corruption? Nobody can offer real clarity on that so both may be held as truths because both exhibit ample evidence. Apparently much of secproggensia distinguishes itself via the same two queries.

  7. dicentra says:

    the self-appointed intelligentsia apparently cannot be expected to have the simple awareness that somebody’s going to notice their fraud

    1. “Fraud” presupposes a “truth” that you’re violating. Academia dispensed with THAT useless concept decades ago.

    2. They NEVER get called on their mendacity. Not by their peers. Not by anyone whose opinion they value, because those people already buy into #1, making the issue moot from the outset.

    Is it the incompetence or is it the corruption?

    Yes, although the more clever among them tend more toward the latter. Usually, clever people find more profitable venues in which to be corrupt.

  8. Jim Ryan says:

    He doesn’t seem very bright when he speaks extemporaneously. Did he have help at Harvard? Or did 20 years of community organizing and sitting in the idiot pews every Sunday dull his mind?

  9. JHo says:

    Secproggidity like totally overwhelms reality with emotion. And I denounce myself.

  10. Slartibartfast says:

    It doesn’t matter who his sources are. What matters is that Andersen is a sloppy researcher, with shoddy footnotes.

    If this had all been documented in a newspaper column, sans footnotes, all would have been well. But as it is? It’s all crap.

    I predict the story will go along the above lines.

  11. Snowcone says:

    Andersen, who was gracious throughout, insisted that he had made no claim that Ayers wrote Dreams

    Looks like he’s on Obama’s side.

  12. JD says:

    I predict SEK will get the vapors, write 12,000 words about how mean people are to him, and continue to be a lying dick.

  13. JD says:

    Oh, and I predict that alphie/yellowsnow will continue to beclown himself.

  14. Pablo says:

    I think this is a good time to revisit this portion of SEK’s biting, cogent analysis of this topic:

    At The Corner, Andy McCarthy evaluates Cashill’s argument and proves himself to be an idiot by finding Cashill’s “lengthy analysis . . . thorough, thoughtful, and alarming—particularly his deconstruction of the text in Obama’s memoir and comparison to the themes, sophistication and signature phraseology of Bill Ayers’ memoir.” To be blunt: if you find Cashill’s identification of “sea imagery” and his lists of words both Obama and Ayers use to be particularly anything other than laughable pablum, you’re an eighth-wit.

    If, however, you only use Cashill’s juvenile musings as a hypothetical which, if true, suggests all the unsavory things you already believe about Obama, then you’ve fully embraced the Cashill Doctrine. What do I mean by that? If you deconstruct Cashill’s name, you’ll find that it contains the words “cash” and shill.” “Cash” refers to paper bank notes which, in more robust times, could be exchanged for goods or services. A “shill,” according to the Oxford English Dictionary, is “one who poses as a disinterested advocate of another but is actually of the latter’s party; a mouthpiece, a stooge.” It goes without saying that shills often shill for cash, but in this case, I think we can say the shill’s shilling for cash and attention.

    Because no one with any literary training can read Cashill’s tripe without recognizing it as the shoddy work of a dim student asked to compare and contrast two texts.

    How’s that ass taste, Scotty?

  15. Pablo says:

    Erm, How’s that ass taste, Stooge?

  16. Pablo says:

    I wonder if SEK’s righteous and wise literary contacts have yet yielded an opportunity for him to question Anderson himself. I understand that he may not have had time to pursue this, what with Pat Buchanan to worry about, and Yosi Sergant to utterly ignore…

  17. McGehee says:

    <tick>

    And there goes SEK’s Minute #8,792,315,844

    But given that every in single one of them he’s famous for being wrong, dishonest, petty and a fool, I guess I can be indulgent for 57 more seconds.

    Heh.

  18. Snowcone says:

    SEK just got promoted to a permanent gig at Lawyers, Guns and Money.

  19. Mikey NTH says:

    Comment by JHo on 9/29 @ 9:51 am #

    You’re a racist, Mikey NTH.

    JHo – And you’re a werewolf!!!!

  20. Mikey NTH says:

    Lawyers, guns, and money?

    It’s come to that for SEK already? He needs L, G, and M?

    That SEK just cannot run a good conspiracy.

  21. Pablo says:

    Wow, he’s writing on a Blogspot blog now? How awesome is that?

  22. BJTexs says:

    Snowcone/Alphie should write for that blog. Maybe an extemporaneous essay about the moral equivalency of murdered Va. Tech. students and Iraqi civilian casualties. Which is not a big deal and why?

    SEK can then laud Snowcone/Alphie’s intentionalism as “bitchin’ edgy!”

  23. JHo says:

    I don’t question your intent, Pablo. Just saying.

  24. LTC John says:

    “Q.E.D.”

    Excellent! Jeff, we may release you back into society yet. Now, tell me how many lights you see…

  25. Abe Froman says:

    I think this is a good time to revisit this portion of SEK’s biting, cogent analysis of this topic:

    He is such a hack. Self-importance meets artless expression.

  26. Jeff G. says:

    Of course he got promoted. He’s a skilled sophist. And that’s what the left needs to function.

  27. JD says:

    Is “skilled sophist” some racist sexist codeword?

  28. LTC John says:

    “Promoted”? Matter of opinion, I think.

  29. dicentra says:

    Is “skilled sophist” some racist sexist codeword?

    Did a winger use the phrase?

    Then yes. Yes it is.

  30. BJTexs says:

    skilled sophist.

    I thought that was a hippy roof finisher.

    Rereading SEK’s “analysis” hurts the head. There isn’t any real analysis in the entire piece, unless one counts copious sneering. Shorter SEK “analysis”: “How dare you all accuse Teh Won of being in bed with Bill Ayers. LYING JUVENILE WINGNUTZ!!”

    I’m thinking Rod Dreher would find that to be an abysmal failure of reasonable discourse. But, then! Realizing Scott was a liberal he’s shake his finger at Jeff for succumbing to the “passions of the progressive mob” or some such.

    Is Scott still a good man?

  31. JD says:

    Still a good man? Ever a good man?

  32. JD says:

    Although, having an angry hatey mob the will hate on your behalf has to be kind of cool. Karl “call me doctor” Steele and Rich “I am a racist” Puchalsky are the perfect lying mendoucheous minions for ilk like SEK.

  33. Huey says:

    Maybe he only sought help when the “I” key on his typewriter wore out.

  34. Mikey NTH says:

    Huey – that was a good one.

  35. Eben says:

    I’ve been reading this blog for years now and somehow I managed to miss who this SEK guy is and why the hell anyone should care about what he writes.

  36. BJTexs says:

    Where have you gone, Scotty Beauchamp/ Scott Kauffman turns his lonely eyes to you … whoo, whoo whoo!

    It’s a long, long story, Eben. Search “Scott Beauchamp” and SEK’s vigorous defense on this blog. Jeff and SEK used to have an “agree to disagree” kind of relationship but it soured right about the time of the Beauchamp kerfuffle.

  37. Joe says:

    Jeff, a gracious SEK would send you a lovely Tower of Treats from Harry and David.

    Although an apology might be a good start too. I am sure it is in the mail, just like Patterico’s.

  38. Jeff G. says:

    It only matters what SEK thinks insofar as he’s able to peddle his narrative that both Cashill and Andersen are liars and fabulists, and by extension, to attempt to discredit anyone who dares question the progressive narrative that bolsters “Barack Obama.”

  39. geoffb says:

    In the end, even reality itself is expected to bend to the application of what may and what may not be acceptably observed about its nature.

    Politics is the gravitational force on the Left that warps the entire universe. The farther to the Left the stronger is the force until at the maximum it wraps the political-space-time around itself and vanishes down the black hole of the academe.

  40. Slartibartfast says:

    Search “Scott Beauchamp” and SEK’s vigorous defense on this blog.

    Probable response: some of Scott’s compatriots turned out to have been bad boys, so everything he said was true!

  41. Bob Reed says:

    In the end, even reality itself is expected to bend to the application of what may and what may not be acceptably observed about its nature. If the evidence that Ayers wrote the book abounds, pointing that out runs afoul of intent, even though the egregiously fouled must use intent to make whatever broken down point they think they have.

    Simply put JHo,
    I believe you are saying that all truths must conform to the “correct” meta-narrative; regardless of whether it is inherently weak as water…

    It’s kind of the anti-Holmes literary cliche. Instead of, as Conana Doyle’s detective often said, “When you eliminate the impossible, whatever you have left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth”, it is more like-This is the official narrative, NOW STFU!1!1!!eleventy

  42. Bob Reed says:

    Excellent analogy at #39 geoffb…At least for nerds like myself!

  43. Bob Reed says:

    And, please…Lawyers, Guns,and money???

    The few times I’ve bothered to comment at that site one of two things occurred:
    1) My comment, no matter how factual, was decried as lies or wingnut delusions…
    2) My comments were summarily deleted…

    Once again proof, that the party that allegedly embraces the idea of “inclusion” and “tolerance” is neither when it comes to dogma. But hey, if you can’t defend the truth, then just plug your ears and repeat, “I’m not listening”!; or any other mantra you choose…

  44. Eben says:

    Are you saying any right-wing blog that does this to commenters is closed-minded and intolerant, Bob?

    Good ‘ol, shit tossing snotnose, seeing how much he can fling and if any of it will stick. As reliable as Old Faithful, just not as smart.

  45. Jeff G. says:

    Who are you talking to, Eben?

  46. Mikey NTH says:

    Comment by Jeff G. on 9/29 @ 3:36 pm

    Nice work, Jeff G.

  47. Bob Reed says:

    Color me crazy, swinging at mere shadows on the wall, but I get the distinct feeling that snowcone os thor by another name; simply leaning on the “writing skills” he cultivated during his graduate work to change the voice of his character’s incarnation…

    On SEK’s page during the back-and-forth the other day, thor made some telling comments that indicated that he still hangs around PW; regardless of how much he disparages the site and commentariat.

    I just get the feeling that he can’t quit you, Jeff!

  48. Blitz says:

    Hi Bob. Even as one of the lesser lights around here, even *I* can tell that snowjob isn’t Thor. That TTP is just contrary.Thor? dangerous to himself and others around him.

  49. Bob Reed says:

    Maybe you’re right Blitz; something just especially creeps me out about that one…

  50. newrouter says:

    “skilled sophist”

    that’s good to know i need some sophit and fascia work

  51. Jeff G. says:

    I didn’t read comments over there, Bob, so I didn’t notice thor.

    Which is exactly what he hates most.

    My life has been better for it.

  52. Abe Froman says:

    You’d know thor was back here if he was, Bob. He has a terrible ear for language and that’s sort of a prerequisite for assuming a believable alter ego. He has enough of a challenge just dealing with the fluctuations in his brain chemistry.

  53. JHo says:

    I believe you are saying that all truths must conform to the “correct” meta-narrative

    What’s more, there’s the obvious contradiction and hypocrisy of having a bigass attitude about what some presumably ignorant wingnut intended to do (in his pointing to dispassionate facts) but in order to do so, having to go all intentional (all the more so when said facts rule against your platform a few times.)

    Of course, I’m no learned guy, so probably there’s a secret combination or a invitation-only subscription or a special handshake involved here I’m not privy to…

  54. N. O'Brain says:

    I know I’ve said it before, but I have become convinced that thor is literally mentally ill.

  55. Blitz says:

    Re your # 51 Jeff?

    Exactly so.

  56. Mikey NTH says:

    #54 – The grandiosity was a clue – academic, lover of beautiful women, flew in fighter jets, wealthy from the markets, etc. It was like he was living in an Ian Fleming novel, and he had to find an audience.

  57. Wm T Sherman says:

    Jeff, maybe it’s just me, but I swear you almost came across as a little bitter there for a moment.

    Now, how to drape this toilet seat around Obama’s neck? I mean, there was plenty more damaging crap that was knowable in 2008, yet it was, and remains, largely unknown. Layers of fact-checking by professional journalists and editors, don’t you know.

    I speculate that things like this will only start to matter in a practical way after the tipping point, when The Great Piling On commences.

    Don’t get me wrong – the message must be pushed. There is nothing else to do.

  58. Jeff G. says:

    I’m long past bitter. I’ve moved on to Ionesco.

  59. Mr. Pink says:

    OT and double posted but this is hilarious
    http://www.chiaobama.com

  60. Joe says:

    The blogosphere is full of decay and corruption.

  61. newrouter says:

    “The blogosphere is full of decay and corruption.”

    same with my sophit and fascia. or is it fascist

  62. Blitz says:

    Jeff, you owe me a keyboard you magnificent bastard!!!

  63. Blitz says:

    “Now, how to drape this toilet seat around Obama’s neck”

    William T? I think there will be more coming down the pipe. For one, do you honestly believe that a real ACORN investigation won’t highlight the Precedents connections to ACORN?

    NOT that i believe that there ever will be a real investigation, but there’s a chance( In hell, I kow)

  64. happyfeet says:

    The Olympics are gay. I hate the gay pansy-assed Olympics. Oooh look at me I have a gold medal. Fuck. You. No one gives a shit and if they do give a shit it’s only cause your whore gold medal ass is moving cereal boxes.

  65. Blitz says:

    Feets? do you have ANY doubt the Chicago machine is’n in on this? it’s a done deal, but the dirty socailst gets to call it a win…that’s all that matters

  66. Blitz says:

    sorry about the typos. my fingers are all cut up. caught in a pressure plate Friday

  67. Joe says:

    This is making me physically ill.

    WTF? Why is the President so invested in getting an Olympic bid? Do you ever recall a U.S. President getting this invested in winning the bid? Is the deal done? It seems the issues facing this country, like economic disaster and winning in Afghanistan should be slightly more important than Chicago Politicians getting the opportunity to give out fat fucking contracts to their donors and supporters.

  68. Blitz says:

    Joe, joe, Joe….The deal is done. It’s a WIN for the precedent is all. call me paranoid? but the “Stimulus” Included the IOC. Hell, I don’t have TIME to read 1200 pages, nor the lawyers to understand it.

    On the other hand? I actually WORK for a living, so there’s that

  69. B Moe says:

    WTF? Why is the President so invested in getting an Olympic bid?

    He needs a victory, he isn’t allowed to win wars, so he takes what he can get.

  70. pdbuttons says:

    keep clear of my lucky farms
    moo

  71. McGehee says:

    Why is the President so invested in getting an Olympic bid?

    Right about now, it’s his last best shot at a legacy.

  72. Blitz says:

    That’s what I was ineptly trying to say McGehee, so thank you

  73. ccoffer says:

    If you were any more inept, you’d be Brakabama. hoho

  74. Blitz says:

    OMG no….even a moron mechanic can’t go THAT low!!!

  75. happyfeet says:

    oh. Mr. Blitz I think the Olympics are become a garish brooch what a whore nation wears to feel pretty. Sickening.

  76. Blitz says:

    I agree Happy. Thing is? I’m pretty sure that the dirty socialist Hungarian thingy you’re always going on obout? has both hands, both feet, possibly his dick and DEFINITELY his wallet in on this. There is no other reason that “Dear Leader” would do such a dirty, disrepectul, disgraceful thing. And that’s being nice

  77. JHo says:

    Second City is maybe next.

  78. geoffb says:

    Look at it this way ‘feets. Obama seems to have an inverse Midas touch. Everything he involves himself in for his own advancement turns to dross once he moves on to the next glittering object in his vision.

  79. Blitz says:

    I’ve seen that Jho, and maybe you could give me a better explanation, but I don’t see it as anything more than a continuation.

    Now if they could prove Minnesota??….EPIC WIN

  80. Blitz says:

    I need JD’s input on this. I always leech off his insults

  81. Pablo says:

    ACORN lie of the day:
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0909/Acorn_attack_misses_mark.html?showall

    There goes the “It isn’t voter fraud, it’s just voter registration fraud!” lie.

  82. Blitz says:

    Karen L? I do not think that the “Lies” that you think were told were lies….I could be wrong? Tell us in writing how you truly think please?

  83. Blitz says:

    Shhh Pablo, I want to see troll droppings, not links to bull droppings.

  84. N. O'Brain says:

    ” I checked checked just now with Gaspard’s former boss, whom he ultimately replaced as the political director of the giant New York SEIU local, 1199,…”

    So someone is defending Gaspard by denying he worked for the shit covered organization ACORN by proving he worked for the double-shit-dipped fascist oranization, the SIEU.

    Some defense.

  85. Abe Froman says:

    ACORN lie of the day:

    William the dummy is back. Hi william!

  86. The Monster says:

    WTF? Why is the President so invested in getting an Olympic bid?

    Because he has so many Chicago friends who stand to get paid nicely if they get it. He owes his job to them. And they know it.

  87. Blitz says:

    Ummm…Oh my goodness. SEIU, Acorn…Acorn, SEIU…NOT apples and oranges. more like oranges and orange juice?

  88. Blitz says:

    That’s WV, the talented(and he is) guitar player??

  89. N. O'Brain says:

    “Massive voter fraud in NY linked to ACORN”

    “The Working Families Party and local Democratic Party Officials are at the center of a massive voter fraud scandal in Troy, NY.

    According to the Times Union:

    Dozens of forged and fraudulent absentee ballots from people registered to vote on the Working Families Party line were filed in the Sept. 15 primary elections in Troy.

    Documents at the county Board of Elections show the fraudulent ballots were handled by or prepared on behalf of various elected officials and leaders and operatives for the Democratic and Working Families parties.”

    “What isn’t mentioned is that WFP is nothing more than a front group for ACORN. Or as Roger Stone put it:

    The Working Families Party is not about working people or families and it isn’t really a party. The WFP is a wholly owned subsidiary of ACORN. Bertha Lewis co-chair of the Working Families Party is the Executive Director of New York ACORN. New York ACORN leader, Steven Kest was the moving force in forming the party and WFP headquarters are located at the same address as ACORN’s national and New York office at 88 Third Avenue in Brooklyn, New York.

    WFP is essentially a money funnel which pays for an aggressive door to door canvas. Largely funded by unions, the WFP is ACORN’s “political arm” in New York State. Candidates supported by the Working Families Party and issues supported by ACORN are both advocated on the door steps of target voter homes as they share one major voter canvas.”

    You were saying?

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/29/massive-voter-fraud-in-ny-linked-to-acorn/

  90. Blitz says:

    OOPS, WY….Billy boy!!!…I have you tracked down on a few blogs….and you know? you ALWAYS go tharn once challenged

  91. Pablo says:

    Whoops. In my #82 I was looking at JHo’s link. How many days of this one. day. story. now?

    Karen, I know Rachael Maddow is lying, but is it a lie to report a connection offered by Wade Rathke about ACORN? He oughtta know, right?

  92. N. O'Brain says:

    Great minds think alike.

  93. Blitz says:

    N’o? Thing is? we need to pin the tail on the pinhead. and the LSM won’t allow that. Do you have ANY idea how many people I talk to every bloody WEEK that have no clue what ACORN even is?.

    And as far as i can disseminate the information, I have. MOST don’t want to be bothered. We are SO screwed

  94. Abe Froman says:

    Poor william has spent so much time plucking string instruments that he never had time for much book learnin’. He sure knows how to link articles that don’t mean what he thinks they mean though.

  95. SBP says:

    In other pol bio news, Palin’s book is already at #11 on the Amazon best-seller list, and it won’t even be out until November 17.

  96. Snowcone says:

    Why is the President so invested in getting an Olympic bid?

    Why do you so hate America?

  97. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Snowcone on 9/29 @ 8:45 pm #

    Why is the President so invested in getting an Olympic bid?

    Why do you so hate America?”

    Did your Mother repeatedly drop you on your head when you were a baby?

  98. N. O'Brain says:

    Sorry, I forgot….

    Did your Mother repeatedly drop you on your head when you were a baby, you retarded marmoset?

  99. Snowcone says:

    Palin’s book is already at #11 on the Amazon best-seller list

    ????

    I see “The Lost Symbol” by Dan Brown at #1

  100. Joe says:

    Snowcone, I assume that a President is above getting graft opportunities for his adopted home town. And before you say it, yes I am aware of allegations of the GOP steering work to its supporters, but this is so blantantly worse and sickening.

    And the sad part is Chicago will fuck it all up anyway.

    Hating America? No, it is called loving America and thinking we are better than this.

  101. geoffb says:

    “Did your Mother repeatedly drop you on your head when you were a baby, you retarded marmoset?”

    #100 answers “Yes, repeatedly.”

  102. Abe Froman says:

    God help you snowclown. How do you feed yourself?

  103. Snowcone says:

    Haha, thought he said #1.

    #11, wow!

    Kind of an embarrassing title.

  104. JohnAnnArbor says:

    I want Rio to win the bid for the Olympics. South America has never had one. The U.S. has had four.

  105. newrouter says:

    Why is the President so invested in getting an Olympic bid?

    ask valerie jarret


    Valerie Jarrett leads Barack Obama’s influential black advisers
    A close friend and confidant of the US President-elect known as “Obama’s big sister” is leading a new generation of affluent blacks preparing to ride to power in Washington on the back of his election victory.

    By Tom Leonard in New York
    Published: 9:31PM GMT 06 Nov 2008″

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3393132/Valerie-Jarrett-leads-Barack-Obamas-influential-black-advisers.html

  106. The Monster says:

    I see “The Lost Symbol” by Dan Brown at #1

    Now scroll down until you see #11. We’ll wait.

    … (Jeopardy! theme plays) …

    Do you see it now?

  107. newrouter says:

    hey val who is your mom and does she know bill ayers dad?

  108. Snowcone says:

    Do you see it now?

    Yep.

    Going Rube

    Catchy

  109. newrouter says:

    obama in the box ain’t selling

  110. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Abe Froman on 9/29 @ 8:58 pm #

    God help you snowclown. How do you feed yourself?”

    The ice cream cones shoved into the forehead are kind of embarassing.

  111. N. O'Brain says:

    “Going Rube”

    Awwww, ain’t that cute?

    snotnose tried to make a joke.

  112. dicentra says:

    It seems the issues facing this country, like economic disaster and winning in Afghanistan should be slightly more important than Chicago Politicians getting the opportunity to give out fat fucking contracts to their donors and supporters.

    Obama doesn’t care what’s more important to you and me, he cares about what will get him his adulation fix the fastest.

    He’s acting like he did when he was editor of the Harvard Law Review, always absent, showing up occasionally to let the plebes bask in his gloriousness, then leaving them to do all the work.

    Narcissists expect to get glory and adulation without actually having done something. This Afghanistan thing both bores him to tears and annoys him for being so damned intrusive into his beautiful dream.

  113. Joe says:

    It would be embarassing for the President of the United States to lose to Rio. Epic bitch slap.

  114. JohnAnnArbor says:

    A Carnival-Olympics hybrid!

    No, bad idea.

  115. Snowcone says:

    Epic bitch slap.

    Obama Derangement Syndrome.

  116. Rusty says:

    WTF? Why is the President so invested in getting an Olympic bid?

    That clicking sound you’re hearing is all the Chicago aldermen working their calculators figuring what their take is going to be. The graft. The graft will be enormous.

  117. Pablo says:

    The ice cream cones shoved into the forehead are kind of embarassing.

    Finally, we can put a face to this one.

  118. geoffb says:

    “The graft will be enormous.”

    Now for all you “little people” start thinking about the Dan Ryan, at rush hour, Summer 2016. Maybe a long vacation would be in order.

  119. RIP Ford says:

    Aww, I think Luke is gonna cry.

  120. SBP says:

    Shorter “Luke”: “Look! Bunnies!”

    Address the topic under discussion or shut the fuck up, “Luke”.

  121. Snowcone says:

    Address the topic under discussion or shut the fuck up, “Luke”.

    The “topic” is Anderesen saying he never claimed Ayers wrote Obama’s book.

    It was the Obama Derangement Syndrome sufferers who brought up the Olympics and Going Rube (and other “off” topics).

  122. Joe says:

    Obama is a plagerist. Which explains why he picked fellow plagerist Joe Biden as Veep.

    I am prejudiced against plagerists. I believe them to be dishonest.

  123. Abe Froman says:

    How would you even know if someone suffered Obama Derangement Syndrome, snowcone? You have the political sophistication of a teenage sex slave from El Salvador.

  124. Bob Reed says:

    Luke,
    All this stuff is similar, but less vitriolic and more restrained, to things that were on Kos, DU, and HuffPo daily while Booooosh! was in office. And none of the public demonstrations can even begin to approach any of the California demonstrations recorded in photo-essay form at zombietime…

    And your links are tripe, the first one opinion, the second one an abortion statement, and the third just a little comparative history between the Anschluss and what’s currently going on in America under Obama; and they left out the child indoctrinating and worship songs being taught to the kids in this nation…

    What’s the matter, the truth of the comparisons hurt? After frothing about BusHitlerBurton for so many years are you stunned to find that Obama is the fascist?

    I’m not, I saw through his connivance throughout the election and predicted just about all that has happened…

  125. Snowcone says:

    How would you even know if someone suffered Obama Derangement Syndrome

    It’s obvious.

    The rabid, senseless hatred of America’s elected leader.

    I imagine people can smell you guys coming from 100 paces.

  126. serr8d says:

    The consequences of Bill Ayers having ghostwritten Dreams (if such a thing did occur) would be much more significant to Independent voters and even a few blue-dog Democrats than it would to the SEK sort of far-Left Democrat, those who could care less what Obama does, as long as he’s advancing pieces of their agenda, and Republicans are kept out of Office. No matter what state the Nation is in, or sinks to, as long as Obama can steer it farther to the left, these America-last minimalists will be satisfied with his deeds and deceptions. We must be forced to become like other nations, just so it’s fair.

    They, the Left, will proceed to end American Exceptionalism even if it destroys the nation in the process.

  127. serr8d says:

    Snowcone, the smell from you is skunk, weasel, commie, pinko, pile of dog shit, anti-American lefty.

    You need to be set outside the borders with the rest of the trash.

  128. Snowcone says:

    No matter what state the Nation is in

    Obama has ended the Republican’s Depression in just 9 months.

    Why would America ever vote the Republicans back into power?

    Not that you real conservatives care, because you’re not Republicans.

  129. SBP says:

    The “topic” is Anderesen saying he never claimed Ayers wrote Obama’s book.

    Liar.

  130. SBP says:

    Obama has ended the Republican’s Depression in just 9 months.

    Liar.

  131. SBP says:

    Since it’s clear that NippleNut and Transgendered Willie can’t stay on topic, perhaps they’d enjoy reading the latest development in the ONE! DAY! STORY!.

  132. Abe Froman says:

    It’s obvious.

    The rabid, senseless hatred of America’s elected leader.

    I imagine people can smell you guys coming from 100 paces.

    No. What’s obvious is that your entire presence here is one giant bluff. You make a fool out of yourself with roughly half of your one-liners, and for each additional sentence the percentage increases. Do you think that it’s lost on anyone here that you know nothing about economics. Nothing about history – military or otherwise. Nothing about political philosophy. I can’t think of anything that’s come up here that you have more than a monkey’s intellectual grounding in. It’s hard to imagine you even have a real job in a real profession. You’re just a low-wattage news junkie who is curiously drawn here like a bug to a zapper.

    But please, prove everyone here wrong. Name something, anything, that you know more about than a lab chimpanzee. And then wow us with your well-hidden wisdom and intellect.

  133. Snowcone says:

    Poor Abe,

    Yell louder, that always helps.

  134. SBP says:

    Poor NippleNut. Keep pretending that your Plastic Personal Savior isn’t melting down faster than one of your namesakes in Hell.

  135. Abe Froman says:

    What do you do for a living snowcone?

  136. Snowcone says:

    I deprogram people who went to Bob Jones University for a living, Bob.

    What do you do?

  137. Abe Froman says:

    Bob? Is it that difficult for you to maintain a train of thought through an entire sentence?

  138. geoffb says:

    SNOWCONE SAYS “YELL LOUDER, THAT ALWAYS HELPS ON THE LEFT!!!!!”

  139. Snowcone says:

    Bob?

    Bod, Abe, Biff, whatever.

    What do you do for a living, son?

  140. Snowcone says:

    Are we witnessing the beginnings of another historic event, loosely comparable to the fall of communism twenty years ago?

    The fall of Communism will come as a great surprise to the Chinese and darleen.

    Thx for the laffs, geoffb.

  141. serr8d says:

    If Snowcone represents the best the Left has to offer, that explains Obama’s voters and ACORN’s canvassers and their successes at signing up these obvious losers. These kids are clueless, spoiled, and spineless, can’t accomplish anything without the promise of something given in return, things obtained after confiscation of Other People’s Money.

    No, Snow, I’m not normally purposefully rude to complete strangers, but you really are insignificant. So it’s of no matter.

    Man up, grow a backbone, get a job doing something you can be proud of. You may grow out of this phase and become a worthwhile American.

  142. Abe Froman says:

    What do you do for a living, son?

    You’re the one people are curious about, on account of your apparently limited knowledge of, well, everything you express opinions about. But if it makes you less bashful about describing the rock you crawled out from I’m an advertising creative director, occasional commercial director and do some PR consulting for evoool corporations. I’ve also sold a screenplay but it appears doomed to collect dust.
    What about you snowy?

  143. serr8d says:

    Ayn Rand was right, the Left (the moochers) can only exist as long as there are exceptional people who create things that they can mooch. If enough of the capitalistic system is cut away, the entire Left – Liberal dream will collapse. It does take exceptional people to sustain a high level of advancement. Just look at China…the rapid advances in technology and the uptick in quality of life is because they’ve adopted a bastardized version of capitalism. Eventually, the communists will be booted.

  144. Snowcone says:

    I’m an advertising creative director

    Not the sausage king of Chicago?

  145. J. "Trashman" Peden says:

    If enough of the capitalistic system is cut away, the entire Left – Liberal dream will collapse.

    That’s the Progressives’ version of Imperialism, which is even more regressive than the historic kind they falsely malign America with: once they complete their suicidal version, there’s no Motherland left to go back to…

  146. alppuccino says:

    Never has there been a more appropriate time to talk ABOUT Snowcone, but not TO Snowcone. I truly believe he jerks his gerkin every time someone addresses him directly. Snowcone is obviously an elderly failure, dependent on total government subsidy to eek out his meager existence. Most likely he’s in an assisted living facility for the indigent, and the orderlies constantly ridicule him. If you take pity on him, then by all means engage him.

    But if you really want to frustrate Snowcone, look past him. Didn’t we finally cause Nishi to run off in a huff? And Nishi had her own style and everything whereas Snowcone is more like a glistening pile of dog poop waiting for a clean shoe to soil.

  147. alppuccino says:

    And of course Obama is an idiot. And idiots can’t write books.

  148. alppuccino says:

    And finally, all that needs to be said is “Poor Rio”. They dream of hosting the Olympics and putting themselves at the same level of other countries that have Olympic cities. And then here comes Obama with his classic “There can be no super powers. One country should not be greater than all others. George Bush put himself above other countries and that was arrogant. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to Copenhagen to rip the heart out of Rio and take their Olympic dreams for myself. You may clap now.”

  149. JD says:

    I love it when Willie the Racist (Karen L and Luke in this thread) goes on one of its transtesticled gender-bending phases.

  150. JHo says:

    The fall of Communism will come as a great surprise to the Chinese and darleen.

    Ask the Europeans which direction they’re going, what with Socialism collapsing. You remember the Europeans; they’re the cool kids on the global block. You can ask the NYT for the story, just in case you assume it’s a WND hysteria.

    Tell me, Snowy, when the economic base either collapses or goes on protest — but I repeat myself — who’s left to pay your entitlements? Don’t answer me, answer internally you’re going to survive yourself. Evidently, and for reasons noted historically, that day is coming.

    See, this has nothing to do with Obama Derangement Syndrome and everything to do with Obama Disentanglement Syndrome. The former is irrational and baseless while the latter is entirely rational, calculated, supportable, and highly effective, witness the left’s barrel scraping’s approval numbers. The difference between now and a few years ago is that now is supported by the principles the country is founded on. Nobody likes a loser, loser, so remind yourself that Obie wasn’t elected for his ability. He was elected for political correctness and because the media salted the fields for the previous 8 years, as is their wont. Now that the honeyoon’s over, there’s no way but down for the collective left, no pun intended.

    Therefore collectivism is not only a historical failure, it’s not in the American blood. Check your political and economic six, and you’re welcome, you aimless little partisan trollop. As for best sellers, ask yourself who’s been on or atop the NYT list for weeks, and if any of those authors have names spelled Levin, Beck, Malkin, or Coulter. Yes, the NYT list.

  151. JHo says:

    if you’re going to survive yourself…

  152. JHo says:

    And for our final jeopardy category, wrecking liberty fail.

    Kinda makes you love the place all over again, doesn’t it, snowy?

  153. Rusty says:

    Obama has ended the Republican’s Depression in just 9 months.

    Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa! You just keep flipping those burgers, son. Stick with what your good at.

  154. Rusty says:

    Unemployment at 9.7% according to the BLS. Obama has ended Bushes recession and started his own in just nine months and doubled the number of unemployed. Democrat loser.

  155. SBP says:

    #11, wow!

    For the first day of preorders for a book that hasn’t even been released yet, yeah, wow.

    And it jumped from #11 to #5 overnight.

    Sux2BU, NippleNut.

  156. B Moe says:

    Obama has ended the Republican’s Depression in just 9 months.

    Maybe Snowcone isn’t talking about economic depression, but about how depressed Republicans were about losing the election. I mean, after seeing what an incompetent idiot Obama really is, folks are starting to feel a little better.

  157. B Moe says:

    Glenn Beck is outselling Teddy K, Snowcone. What must that portend?

  158. SBP says:

    Palin should overtake The Swimmmer by the end of the day, I’d guess.

  159. SBP says:

    And it’s already #1 at Barnes & Noble.

    Wow, indeed.

  160. JD says:

    When did this change from a recession to a depression, and apparently back again, at least according to yellowsnow?

  161. JD says:

    Are there any quantifiable indicators that suggest we are not still in a recession, other than snotnose’s blathering?

  162. alppuccino says:

    Oh, and never forget, whether the Olympics is a done deal, or if Obama is going to have to “persuade”, panic will be, or was part of the process and threats will be, or have been made.

    Obama is like a rich kid who threatens the little people with power gained through the hard work of others with his only intent being self-glorification.

    And Obama’s an idiot.

  163. JD says:

    Tell us what you really think, al.

  164. JHo says:

    Looks like the collectivists are still lacking a defining platform. Asides from envy and theft, I mean.

    I wonder if envy and theft are virtues suitable to build cultures around.

    On the other hand, and speaking of classical liberalism, maybe that simple liberty agrees with a philosophy of freedom, something the noble faiths and higher philosophies hold at their core, and to come full circle, on which was built the American experiment, one that paid off in unprecedented success, accomplishment, expression, and individuality.

    Of course, then there’s envy and theft. The lie. Deception. The secprogg assault on reason.

    Choices, choices.

  165. JHo says:

    And it’s already #1 at Barnes & Noble.

    Are those the guys what peddle books? In predominately urban and suburban markets?

    Wow, indeed.

  166. JD says:

    Richard Mellon Scaife, Regenery, Fox, and Halliburton prollÝ bought a bunch early to inflate the numbers.

  167. Pablo says:

    Palin should overtake The Swimmmer by the end of the day, I’d guess.

    She’s already there, right behind Glenn Beck.

  168. I need to get a job with the Won’s PR guys. I would have dropped a meme on the Huffpo that Ayers is just an exceptionally gifted proofreader, an artiste if you will. Who really, really understands the struggle of middle-upper class African American youth. Therefore it doesn’t matter what he’s done, or why he did it, or even if he admits it. He’s forgiven. So all you haters can just back off!

    Seriously, just give me one chance, oh opinion-shapers and trendsetters. I CAN…er YES! I mean..WE! Is that right? We? The collective? It’s tough to spit that one out…let’s try it again..YES, YOU MAY! I DON’T KNOW, CAN YOU? WHAT’S THE MAGIC WORD?… ah shit. Forget it.

  169. Slartibartfast says:

    Obama has ended the Republican’s Depression in just 9 months.

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics disagrees with you, sad to say.

  170. Anyone in San Francisco on the 6th? Need a drinking buddy. Never been to SF proper. Do I need a passport?

  171. Slartibartfast says:

    In general, guys and gals, I don’t see book popularity as a figure of merit regarding quality. Else Ted Kennedy’s hagiography would be off the list.

  172. SGT Ted says:

    Obama has ended the Republican’s Depression in just 9 months.

    Ahahaha! Oh my. Maybe on Supermans Bizarro world. Quit being such a suckass for O! You’re embarrassing yourself. There’s more evidence of the earth being flat.

  173. Jeff G. says:

    Looks like this story is starting to get a little traction.

    Funny, this idea of the creation of “Barack Obama” based on the possibility of his memoirs having been ghost written? I seem to remember somebody writing a hypothetical about that last year around this time…

  174. Anyone notice that “Dreams of a Million Little Pieces” was not an Oprah Book Club pick?

    HMMMMMMMMMM?

  175. DarthRove says:

    I love one of the comments at the American Thinker site:

    “Dreams From My Neighbor”

  176. The Left says:

    The validity of any given narrative is strictly proportional to the attention paid it by the press. Like principle, facts are subjective and subject to popularity.

  177. BJTexs says:

    Those of you who continue to express surprise and annoyance at Snowcone/Alphie’s outrageous assertions …. YAWN!

    Those of us who have long experience across many blogs know that the strategerie remains unchanged and is quite boring. Alphie/Snowcone continues to play the giggling little stick poker, cackling every time one of you points out his absurdities. He knows that they are absurd. He’s just in it for the stick poking. Heck, he even recycled an old argument from years ago about appropriations for the military just to get a howl from the wingnutz.

    The more you try to figure this out or point it out to Alphie/Snowcone, the more provocatively obtuse he’ll become. Trust me as one who has banged his head against that concrete wall too many times to count.

    In the meantime, I’m still waiting for the details of the Mile High Dirt Berm™ that Alphie/Snowcone will have built along the Pakistan – Afghanistan border to keep the terrorists out.

    And as for William Yelverton/Teas/Karen L/Luke … please, for the sake of your family and friends, seek professional help.

  178. I think it’s amazing that a guy who, despite graduating Summa Cum Laud from Harvard and getting a fat book contract never made partner at the law firm he joined and never made higher than lecturer at Chicago. I mean, aside from the book, he’s done nothing. Really. 2 years here, one here, three here. Scary really. Even worse if the book’s ghost written. I think I may have made the same kind of comment on that hypothetical someone wrote last year around this time.

  179. Sorry, Senior lecturer.

  180. serr8d says:

    @179 Hmmmph. Wish I’d read that an hour ago.

  181. Snowcone says:

    Glenn Beck is outselling Teddy K, Snowcone. What must that portend?

    It portends the Republican party will be crazy and out of power.

    Just like it is now.

    Jackass politics only works for a few years.

  182. Slartibartfast says:

    One can hope, anyway.

  183. Slartibartfast says:

    Oh. The end of the Republican Depression seems…depressed.

  184. happyfeet says:

    Teddy K sounds like a street drug what you can get in big trouble for having in your pocket.

  185. Chuck says:

    It is pretty impressive that in 1994, Ayers could foresee that this stupid, unaccomplished, mediocre junior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School might someday become president, so he chose to donate his time to write Obama’s life story without taking credit. So he could later go on to become one of the most hated men in America during the 2008 election, all so that he could go on to… not ever even talk to the alternately ineffectual and dictatorial Obama Administration, 15 years later. What a wonderful world we live in.

    I forgot, what part did Ayers play in faking Obama’s place of birth? Did he place the fake birth announcements in Hawaii? He was 17 years old, after all, and a writer of sea metaphors. That makes him the obvious candidate, although I suppose Soros is an option, too, since he had been living in the U.S. for a few years at that point. Wait, what was Mengele doing in 1961?

  186. Slartibartfast says:

    Chuck is whaling the hell out of a whole army of strawmen, there.

  187. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Chuck “the straw man king” of mendacity.

  188. sdferr says:

    Ha! Who knew?

    Mr. Hulton recalls that he probably asked what Mr. Obama was studying in school and at one point Mr. Obama said that he intended to become President of the United States. Mr. Hulton said he was “taken aback” by the statement but recalls that he did not think Mr. Obama was “arrogant, but just self assured and a person with a lot of self confidence.” “It was not said with hubris,” Hulton recalled, “but with an air of self-assuredness.”

    “I told him there was no reason why he couldn’t become president,” Hulton recalled. Obama was dressed “nicely but casually, a slacks and shirt, not jeans and a t-shirt, but definitely not a coat or tie,” he said. After the brief conversation Hulton continued on his route and did not turn back to see whether the Ayers’ were at home or whether Obama entered their house.

  189. happyfeet says:

    I don’t remember Ayers being universally hated. Most people don’t realize he’s a terrorist commie what hates America.

  190. Pablo says:

    It is pretty impressive that in 1994, Ayers could foresee that this stupid, unaccomplished, mediocre junior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School might someday become president, so he chose to donate his time to write Obama’s life story without taking credit.

    And annointed him Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Politics were nowhere on the radar screen, which you can tell because they didn’t launch Obama’s campaign at Ayers’ house until 1995. That’s like 20 years later or something.

  191. Slartibartfast says:

    “anointed”

    /petpeeve

  192. Pablo says:

    Nazi!

    /heh

  193. SBP says:

    In general, guys and gals, I don’t see book popularity as a figure of merit regarding quality.

    Who said anything about literary merit? This is politics and popularity is the undisputed king of that domain.

    It’s now up to number one, by the way.

  194. B Moe says:

    I forgot, what part did Ayers play in faking Obama’s place of birth? Did he place the fake birth announcements in Hawaii?

    Hawaii? Everybody knows he was born in Bethlehem.

  195. McGehee says:

    Obama wasn’t born, he was lowered to earth by an honor guard of angels, the Hopeim and Changeim.

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