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Kudos and Shout-Outs [Dan Collins]

To any commenters or bloggers who made your year brighter, in the comments here, with links, if appropriate. Thanks, of course, to Jeff, and alla yas, and hoping happyfeet’s turtles are doing all right.

145 Replies to “Kudos and Shout-Outs [Dan Collins]”

  1. ushie says:

    Kudis to Jeff, may he return with Billy Jack and the dillo soon; to Maj John for his service; happyfeet for cracking me up so much; and Darleen for pissing off every troll with every post she makes.

  2. McGehee says:

    I’ll give a shout out to everyone who’s managed never to lose his or her sanity and/or sense of humor throughout this year. How the @#$!! do they do that?

  3. ushie says:

    And Ric Locke for making me more smarter.

  4. JD says:

    To all of you … a great group of people and a great group of friends. To Jeff for being such a good host. To Dan, Darleen, et al for filling in the gaps so well. To happyfeet for being happyfeet. MayBee, if you are out there …

    Merry Christmas, you racist wingnuts.

  5. panther girl says:

    You guys and gals are all great! I have no idea how I would have survived my “progressive” town and workplace the past few years without y’all. I started to list folks and their specific gifts but I just knew that I’d forget someone. Everyone plays their own role here and it wouldn’t be PW if each every one of you weren’t here. I appreciate all of you so very much! Merry Christmas and all the best to you in the coming year.

  6. Swen Swenson says:

    I’m thinking those turtles are just suffering from a nasty case of sex addiction. We should all have such problems.

    Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah! Happy New Year! and a Kewl Kwanzaa! May the Norns smile on your endeavors in the coming year!!

  7. Bleepless says:

    Protein Wisdom made my year brighter.

  8. Merry Christmas to allas yas over here!

  9. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    As others have said, there are simply too many excellent posters on here to single out any of them by name.

  10. Bob Reed says:

    To begin with, many thanks to Jeff G for hosting all of this thoughtful, if at times frenetic, debate. Thanks too to Dan, Darleen, and all the guest hosts for stepping up and filling in so well when Jeff is busy with his other pursuits…

    Thanks to Major John, RTO, Mr. Pink, N.O.Brain’s son, and all who have served or are currently serving, for protecting all of our freedoms; especially that to engage in our spirited debates.

    We all salute you…

    To Ric, SBP, hf, JD, JHoward, Slart, Lt, Carin, Pablo, SarahW, RTO, and all those PWers I haven’t specifically mentioned; as SBP said, there are far too many thoughtful contributors to simply list all of your names;

    Merry Christmas or Happy Chanukah to all! During this past year that I have been amongst you, all of you have touched my life in special ways, and I thank you for that. I hope and pray for the best for each and every one of you-even some of the more persnickety trolls…

    Many Happy Returns to all,
    May God’s blessing be upon each and every one of you and your loved ones too…

  11. JD says:

    Bob – My humble thanks for including me in such a list of people, a list I most certainly do not belong on, but am honored that you made such a typo.

    Racist theocon

  12. geoffb says:

    To Jeff G. for putting up with a ton a s**t and still coming back better than EVUH. On his bad days he is merely great, with a full head of steam no one can touch him.

    To Dan and Darleen for all the hard work they do everyday to keep this place chugging when Jeff is busy with the real world.

    To Spies, Brigands, and Pirates for Trollhammer, a unique addition to PW.

    To happyfeet for being able to crack me up everyday.

    To Ric Locke, Bob Reed, N.O’Brain,Maj John, B Moe, Pablo, dre, Trashman, JD, JHoward, Dash Rendar, Mossberg 500, Sean M, RTO Trainer, maggie, Sarah W, dicentra, serr8d, Rob Crawford, and all others which as Spies noted so numerous, you all make this a great place to read.

    Even to our trolls for their special gift of always showing exactly where the loose thread is, that when pulled, will unravel the left’s designs.

    Christmas day is now over here so a Happy New Year to all.

  13. Bob Reed says:

    JD,
    Now you know that us racist wingnut theocons are notoriously bad judges of character…

    Of course, I blame Booooosh!

    Best Wishes for a Happy New Year!

  14. JD says:

    That explains it. I did not realize that you were a mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging theocon.

  15. donald says:

    I like most everybody ceptin me, Thor, and Parsnip. Especially Thor, Thor’s a fag.

  16. DarthRove says:

    I’ll give a shout to anybody who wants to help me track down, abduct, and destroy the bastard who came up with those nasty wire-tie thingies that hold kids’ toys in the box.

  17. I lurv everyone here. ‘cept thor and root veggie, of course. I did a special “stalking dance” last night in Pablo’s backyard, and I dedicated it to everyone here at PW. So, if he can get that surveillance video up …

  18. Dale says:

    Thanking y’alls for making me look smarterer when conversing with the uninitiated. And much thanks and peace to our gracious host.

  19. thor says:

    I’d like to thank Jeff and Dan for being wordy-cool and generally friendly. I’d like to thank alpp and happy for being genuinely funny. I’d like to thank BJT and Ric for occasionally listening. I’d like to thank cynn and JHo for caring for their words. I’d like to thank all those trolls who, like me, got it right. And I’d like to thank most everyone else whose views are so fertile with ignorance that the roots of revolution might finally take hold.

    Lastly, I’d like to thank my trusty laptop without whose help I wouldn’t be able to watch TV and post, to lie on my back and read my books and post, to slurp pints of beer at the Alley, the Duck, or the Anchor and post, to sit out in the outdoor furniture while fishing and post, to ignore my better half’s conversations and post, to sit in an airport and post. I love you, man.

  20. MAJ (P) John says:

    ushie, Bob and geoff – you are welcome. It was quite a year, it twas.

    Darth – if you find that guy, let me know. I have access to alot of weaponry, armor, etc.

    Oh, and I rather like reading Ric too.

    Thanks, Jeff, for maintaining the site and putting up with all this.

  21. Pablo says:

    Y’all rock, but then we knew that. The internet would be a much poorer place without this oasis. Outside of PW, Bob Owens has done a hell of a job this year, and between Pat and DRJ, Patterico’s place is always a good read. And as always, Allah akbar.

  22. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    The big shout to Jeff. He is a man without peer in the blogging community, imho.

    And shout outs to all the rest of you who have helped me learn so much. This is a very interesting, and very learned, gathering of peeps. That’s a testament to Jeff. I, too, hate to single anyone out, but I have to second the shout outs to Ric Locke. A walking encyclopedia and even more importantly, he imparts his knowledge in a way that even the more dull (that would be me) can easily understand. That, in and of itself, is probably worth more than the knowledge itself. Jeff G also has this skill in spades.

  23. Adriane says:

    Thank you, Jeff & the PW crew.

    Best wishes in 2009.

  24. Percy Dovetonsils says:

    Best wishes to all of my fellow knuckle-dragging mouthbreathing reprobates, and especially to Jeff and his myrmidons for keeping this swamp of incorrect thought up and running. You all crack my sh*t up, as the kids say, and it’s well worth scrolling past the nitwit trollisms to keep up with you.

  25. Cowboy says:

    Thanks to Jeff for this wonderful place–PW is truly my web home.

  26. Cave Bear says:

    First and foremost, kudos to our Fearless Leader and OUTLAW!, Jeff the G. I too would likely have not retained my sanity this year without this oasis of truth in the desert of stupidity this country has become.

    And of course there is Dan (even if he does go off his meds and do wierd shit now and then), the lovely and gracious Darleen, our resident watcher at the wall, Major John, Ric Locke, who boosts everyone’s IQ (except the usual suspects, of course) just by showing up, Obstreperous Infidel, Mossberg500, SBP, Carin, Trashman, Sarah W, RTO Trainer, dicentra, and all the rest of the gang (the list is long and distinguished).

    God bless all of you…

  27. BJTexs says:

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of the goofballs who inhabit this place.

    To JD for reminding us of our racist thugness and his insight into my real nature as a capitalist oppressor.

    To some of the funniest people on teh intertubes including McGehee, BMoe, Alpuccino, Pablo, Kelly, and the incomparable happyfeet, among many others.

    Thanks to thor for taking breaks from screaming insults to actually engage on a few issues.

    To some of the smartest. most insightful people on teh intertubes including Spies, JHoward, Bob Reed, N. O’Brain, Big Bang Hunter (where for art thou?) and, always, ric locke.

    To Carin from Detroit for rockin’ it everyday and O.I. and Cowboy and Lost Dog, and dre and ushie and urthzsu and geoffb and so many others I can’t type for fear of C.T.S. for the fun and the outrageous and the thinking.

    My heart and prayers to M.J., R.T.O., Young N. O’Brain, Carin’s own, Mr. Pink, ahem (wither?) and all others who have sacrificed to protect our freedoms. Godspeed all.

    To Dan and Darleen and The Sanity Inspector and others for consistently great posts and stoking the coals and keeping the fire burning.

    And, of course, to Jeff G. who is responsible for this thinking man’s madhouse. Thanks for the best writing on the ‘tubes and for teaching me so much and for forcing me to look critically at everything and never, ever, betray my own principles.

    Masel Tov!

  28. B Moe says:

    Because of how deeply my feelings are hurt at every post that forgets to mention ME! I am just going to give a blanket best wishes to all you folks.

    BECAUSE I CARE, DAMMIT!

  29. mojo says:

    Turtles?

    I love turtles.

    Boiled OR fried…

  30. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    B Moe, I appreciate your comments immensely, even when we butt heads, and I’m absolutely certain that I’m not the only one.

    As I’ve observed before, there’s a difference between debate (even debate so contentious that tempers flare) and dissembling, deflection, and dishonesty.

  31. B Moe says:

    Ditto, Spies, most of my oldest and closest friends don’t agree with me politically at all. It ain’t personal.

  32. I simply love the insightful comments of [insert name here], the jokes of [insert name here], and the off-the-wall trippings of [insert name here].

    You guys are the GREATEST!

  33. BumperStickerist says:

    Thanks to JeffG and Dan, Darleen, et al.

    I found PW and its predecessor, CW/PW, informative, humorous, and edgy,but edgy in that serrated sort of way that makes it not too predictable. Turns out that, much to my surprise, IRL I developed enough material about a topic that a publisher offered to pay me to write a book about it,in exchange for, you know, actually, writing the damn thing. Despite Jeff’s ability to make it seem effortless, writing is teh hard. Which will seriously detract from my screwing around in blog comments sections.

    Best of luck to all you PW’ers in the new year.

  34. [insert name here] says:

    You’re welcome.

  35. Aw … someone didn’t a pony for Christmas :(

  36. Percy Dovetonsils says:

    Well, I sure as hell have the Christmas spirit now.

  37. B Moe says:

    Kind of like you, except for the cute.

  38. Mossberg500 says:

    Wassa matter evil cosby sweater, did the dirty socialist commemorative plates sell out?

  39. Perhaps his mom caught him in his room with that shirtless pic of Obama?

    NTTAWWT

  40. Pablo says:

    He’s whatever you want Him to be, sweater.

  41. Mossberg500 says:

    evil cosby sweater person, it was a joke based on your hostility toward happyfeet and his turtles. I’ll reserve my opinion of President-elect Obama’s ability to govern when he takes office.

  42. B Moe says:

    So what what is he? A dirty socialist that drives wingnuts crazy or a latent centrist that drives moonbats crazy.?

    You guys don’t know either, huh?

  43. Pablo says:

    Floor wax or desert topping? I just don’t know.

  44. Since both of those extremes are current examples of RNC/Talk Radio/Trickle-down-Stupid propaganda, I guess you missed the point.

    I just LOVE it when people come here and accuse of being like the cartoons (of conservatives) in their head,.

  45. parsnip says:

    Well, we know Obama is the man Americans admire most:

    1. Barack Obama 32%
    2. George W. Bush 5%
    3. John McCain 3%
    4. Pope Benedict XVI* 2%
    Billy Graham 2%
    Bill Clinton 2%

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-12-25-admire-poll_N.htm

  46. Ric Locke says:

    Gosh, Sweater, how very nuanced you are.

    After eight years of hysteria and hyperbole about SHREDDING THE CONSTITUTION and SIXTEEN WORDS and HALLIBURTONOILILLEGALWAR and and and… you and your allies have got a lot of room to talk about overstatement of the case, I don’t think.

    As for George Bush, monolithic responses are your schtick, not ours. You won’t find anybody here who thinks he’s done everything right, let alone that he’s the Unicorn-riding Lightbringer come to defeat Sauron and make Mordor a well-watered land — though there does seem to be a good bit of fertilizer about.

    Regards,
    Ric

  47. Mossberg500 says:

    I hope you don’t mind if I save my admiration for his actual presidency, do you? It is rather meaningless to be the best President-elect, evah!

  48. I just LOVE it when people come here and accuse of being like the cartoons (of conservatives) in their head

    If it bothers you so much, maybe you should start denouncing those that have led to that stereotype.

    Ok, I’m gonna start denouncing all the left-wing lightweights who misrepresent the views of conservative. Happy?

  49. Evil sweater, you certainly know how to kick ass on strawmen.

  50. B Moe says:

    “climate change” being refuted by “It’s snowing in X” is bullshit.

    Can climate change be proven by “It’s snowing in X”?

  51. Ric Locke says:

    BTW, “climate change” being refuted by “It’s snowing in X” is bullshit.

    Well, d’oh, Homer, ya think? We’ll remember that when you and yours start (again) shrieking that hundred-degree days in Tucson mean we’re all gonna die if we don’t volunteer to freeze to death.

    Those who study climate are worried about the unpredictable results of injecting extra heat into a chaotic, heat-driven system.

    And we have no quarrel with them, to the extent they’re basing their worries on actual measurements of what’s going on and attempts to make their analyses transparent; that is, on science. Hysterical demands that the entire basis of Western civilization be overturned because of CERTAIN DOOM TO EVERY PERSON ON THE PLANET get the treatment they deserve.

    Regards,
    Ric

  52. Pablo says:

    When X is Vegas or Baghdad or wherever algore happens to be, it’s pretty damned funny.

  53. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    ECW, you did know that all of the “warming” from the past century has been wiped out over the last decade or so, did you not?

    Oh, right: you’re a mendacious troll. No doubt one of the old ones with another new name.

    ‘Hammered.

  54. parsnip says:

    the entire basis of Western civilization is allowing Texas to pump out as much CO2 as it wants?

    Wow, who knew?

  55. B Moe says:

    Well, we know Obama is the man Americans admire most:

    Dear Barrack,

    I like u,
    Do u like me?

    Check one:

    [] Yes
    [] No

    Love,
    Parsnip

  56. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    BTW, I recommend this graph to those who are worried about atmospheric CO2.

    Do you see that powerful correlation between atmospheric CO2 levels and temperature?

    That’s right: you don’t.

    Here’s another bit of trivia: all that carbon that’s in coal and oil? Where did it come from to begin with?

    Hint: it came from the atmosphere.

  57. Cowboy says:

    Evil Charlie Brown Sweater–I will no let you harsh my Christmas after-glow!

    I wish you and yours the many Blessings of Christ during this season of his Incarnation!

    Hee-hee.

  58. Cowboy says:

    no/not

  59. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I just thought you were speaking Scottish, Cowboy.

  60. Cowboy says:

    My ancestors are from Orkney–we’re never sure whether to go with the kilt or the pointy metal hat with horns!

  61. N. O'Brain says:

    “Those who study AGW climate are worried about the unpredictable results of injecting extra heat into a chaotic, heat-driven system.”

    Those who actually study, you know, climate, aren’t.

    Go here:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/

    and try learning something.

  62. Ric Locke says:

    Well, alphie, tell you what: I’ll write my Representative and Senator. There’s a session of the Lege coming up, and I reckon there’s a good chance that we Texans could reduce our “carbon footprint” by quite a bit, without impacting our lifestyle too much.

    The way we could do that is to cut you and your neighbors off from the energy sources that keep you warm, fed, and able to get to and do your jobs. If we only had to support ourselves our emissions would be really quite modest; it’s the ones we create in order to support you and yours that take us over the top, and I’m pretty sure we could get a large minority, if not an actual majority, of Texans (and Louisianans) willing to cut them off. Deal?

    Regards,
    Ric

  63. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Cowboy on 12/26 @ 2:22 pm #

    My ancestors are from Orkney–we’re never sure whether to go with the kilt or the pointy metal hat with horns!”

    Do you know what a real Scotsman wears under his kilt, Cowboy?

  64. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Oh, and if you’re still worried about CO2, you should be talking to China.

    The Chinese are bringing a new 1 GW coal plant on line every week.

  65. Jim in KC says:

    Those who study climate are worried about the unpredictable results of injecting extra heat into a chaotic, heat-driven system.

    Nonsense. They’re worried about how to get their hands on big piles of other peoples’ money.

    Those “unpredictable results” are commonly called “weather,” by the way.

  66. N. O'Brain says:

    “Already in Europe, they are accorded roughly the same respect as child molesters.”

    The same Europeans who admire immigrant Arabs rioting in hte street and burning cars?

    Heeeyyyyy, maybe there IS a method to their madness!

  67. parsnip says:

    The Gulf belongs to all Americans, Ric.

    It’s you freeloaders who would be “cut off.”

    And as usual, I’m sure the Mexicans could do a better job for less money.

  68. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    They’re worried about how to get their hands on big piles of other peoples’ money.

    Exactamundo, my friend.

    If they were really worried about CO2-induced “global warming”, they’d be pushing for nuclear power, the safest, cleanest, and most efficient form of energy known to man.

  69. N. O'Brain says:

    “And as usual, I’m sure the Mexicans could do a better job for less money.”

    What you want to export American jobs to Mexico?

    Oooo, the unions are going tp be PISSED.

  70. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Ah, I see the Europeans have put in an appearance. Don’t know if it was Sweaterboi or nipply, but it doesn’t matter.

    Tell you what: when the Europeans manage to go for a full twenty years without genocide breaking out, I might consider listening to them on a moral issue.

  71. B Moe says:

    I’m sure the Mexicans could do a better job for less money.

    A better job of curbing emissions? Witheld? Is that you?

  72. Cowboy says:

    N O’Brain–Around here, all he wears are his Justins!

  73. Ric Locke says:

    The Gulf belongs to all Americans, Ric.

    Oh, unquestionably. The littoral areas do not — this is well-established law.

    As for “freeloaders”, you’ve mistaken your mirror for a window again. Requiring others to emit on your behalf, then criticizing them for the emissions, strikes me as a pretty good example of “freeloading”. The only thing you’ll accomplish by pushing it off on the Mexicans is to make it harder for you to carp because they’re Brown People who cannot be criticized.

    Regards,
    Ric

  74. Mossberg500 says:

    A better job of curbing emissions?

    First, let Mexico take on an extra 20 million immigrants, or better yet, take back 20 million of their citizens.

  75. parsnip says:

    Texas should have done a deal on CO2 emissions while Bush was still in office.

  76. ushie says:

    Sweaterpuppy,

    “ECW, you did know that all of the “warming” from the past century has been wiped out over the last decade or so, did you not?

    It really doesn’t matter.”

    Ah, so you admit reality “doesn’t matter.” You got there faster than Snippy the Spinhead or the Hammer of the Gobsmacked! I’m proud of you, son.

  77. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Which would be nice, except there’s not much uranium left that we know of.

    Which, of course, is a lie.

    There’s enough uranium and thorium to last for billions (yes, billions, with a “b”) of years if breeder reactors are employed.

    No, YOU talk to China when you’re done using them

    Yes, I’m sure you don’t have a single item in your house that was made in China.

    Back in the troll bin you go.

  78. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    A more direct link to the figures on the sustainability of nuclear power.

  79. B Moe says:

    I wonder what the red line is on a Cosby Sweater, because this one is starting to spin pretty good.

  80. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    As usual, it’s pretty clear who is providing evidence here and who is simply providing insults and spin.

  81. Jim in KC says:

    Which would be nice, except there’s not much uranium left that we know of.

    Only because we look no harder that we need to at the moment.

  82. Lt. York says:

    “Already in Europe, they are accorded roughly the same respect as child molesters.”

    Ummmmmm….there’s a reason we left Europe: They seem to have a little trouble with the cognitive function.

    Seems like the situation has not improved.

  83. Jim in KC says:

    david crosby’s sweatstain said: No, YOU talk to China when you’re done using them to prop up our economy and promoting Walmart patriotism instead of…raising taxes.

    Walmart patriotism? WTF is that?

  84. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    BTW: as an American I’m concerned with the Chinese trade deficit.

    As a human being, I can’t regret that some of the smartest people on earth are being freed from the agricultural peasant lifestyle, under the perpetual threat of famine.

    Of course, people like Sweaterboi will never admit that the primary driver behind this is the increasingly capitalist nature of the Chinese economic system (they’re certainly a long way away from being a free society, but neither are they a hard-core Maoist state any longer).

    How did that “Great Leap Forward” thingie work out, Sweaterboi?

  85. B Moe says:

    The scientific reality doesn’t matter because of election results?

    You know what else is fun to Google? “California Prop. 8”

  86. Ric Locke says:

    … there’s not much uranium left that we know of.

    If the US were to expand to France’s percentage for a conventional nuclear EG grid, it would be gone in roughly 50 years.

    Well, yeah. Of course, if you believe the people who gave us that statistic, there hasn’t been any oil since about 1980. Even counting that, there’s a shitload of thorium — in the United States, even! — and huge piles of horribly scary nuclear “waste” that can be reprocessed and used again.

    It’s not that I’m sick of Malthusians, it’s that I’m sick unto death of Malthusians handing their asses (and mine) to power-seeking demagogues. Flooding Miami would be less disastrous than handing over the world economy to Saint Al and his friends.

    Texas should have done a deal on CO2 emissions while Bush was still in office.

    Probably so, but up until now we’ve taken our responsibilities to our fellow Americans somewhat seriously. Are you absolutely certain you want that to come to an end?

    Regards,
    Ric

  87. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    The scientific reality doesn’t matter because of election results?

    Say what? Did Sweaterboi actually claim that scientific questions are subject to popular vote?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

  88. B Moe says:

    Some friends of mine make high performance auto parts for a very small, niche market. One of their sub contractors hand made a set of state of the art headers for $2k a set retail. They sent a pair to China and found they could get them made for $150. So now they sell them for far less money, but sell a lot more of them. So they have hired more folks over here to do warehousing/shipping stuff, people in China now have jobs making them, and everybody is making more money.

    How exactly is that a bad thing in any way?

  89. ushie says:

    CardiganKid,
    “It doesn’t matter because lobby-funded pseudo-science propaganda lost two elections in a row.

    For extra fun, google “Dover School Board decision”.”

    You’re not even trying to make sense now, are you? How scientific is Al Gore’s carbon-trading scam? How scientific is the “hockey stick” graph without the fallacious hockey stick? How scientific is it of anyone to try to understand the earth’ climate without factoring in, oh, the sun?

  90. kelly says:

    Back on topic, Happy Holidays to all you PW denizens. (Thanks for the shout out, BJT.) Here’s hoping we get to meet face to face in the re-education camps and reminisce about all the fun we’ve had here.

  91. ushie says:

    GuernseyLad,

    What the hell…? “cool and popular?” No, that’s how you vote, kiddo. I vote after doing research.

  92. ushie says:

    kelly, I hope nuclear power heats our camps…

  93. parsnip says:

    Don’t confuse greed with altruism, ric.

    Most Americans believe in “Green” stuff, and Texas is gonna pay the price.

  94. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I believe I did say “conventional”, dickhead.

    You said “there’s not much uranium left that we know of”.

    Which is simply not true.

    Maybe you should arrange for a popular vote on how much uranium is left.

  95. kelly says:

    No such hope for me, ushie. The treadmill-powered generator manned by us climate change heretics will have to do.

    Hmm…climate change skeptics = child molesters in Europe? Really? How enlightened. But somehow I just don’t think climate change is all too high on the list of priorities of all those Muzzies overrunning/overbrreeding Europe. What say you, sweaterboy?

  96. parsnip says:

    treadmill-powered generator

    Has anyone calculated how much energy is currently stored on Americans in the form of fat?

  97. Ric Locke says:

    Don’t confuse greed with altruism, ric.

    Most Americans believe in “Green” stuff, and Texas is gonna pay the price.

    So, your intent is that we Texans get to go back to a pastoral life, while shipping stuff up the pipeline for free, to support your habits? We get to walk from our mud huts over to the refinery where we work for nothing to keep you comfortable?

    You may be able to achieve it, with enough guns to back you up. Just don’t pretend that there’s any justice in it — and you might keep, in the back of your mind somewhere, the nasty suspicion that people who know how to work a refinery might also know where a monky wrench might usefully be applied.

    Regards,
    Ric

  98. parsnip says:

    Surely you anti-intellectual Republicans can appreciate the irony of Texas getting neutered by algore’s legions, ric?

  99. Ric Locke says:

    OT: Wha hoppen? When I first looked in this morning there were several posts for today. Now they’ve all disappeared, with this one left at the top. I know it’s not refreshing from cache because the comment counts change, as does the sidebar “recent” data.

    Regards,
    Ric

  100. Ric Locke says:

    “Irony” in Texas often comes in the form of a tube, monkyboy.

    Regards,
    Ric

  101. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Yeah, I was wondering about that myself, Ric.

    I’m pretty sure there was an update on the Iowahawk plagiarism story, but it’s gone now.

  102. MAJ (P) John says:

    Ric,

    Come now, you expect those whom you are addressing to understand how energy production and distribution works? You are feeling holiday cheer, aren’t you? Heh.

    Everyone knows that gasoline and electricity come from carbon bushes and wattage trees. You just need to make sure nobody from some icky Red State gets the benefits of them. Send them to Manhattan and Sacremento and go back to your log cabin to await further orders.

  103. PR says:

    the entire basis of Western civilization is allowing Texas to pump out as much CO2 as it wants?

    ok holmes, just for that I’m leaving my 3000 Christmas lights up an extra week. GoogleEarth Dallas and you should be able to see them.

  104. ushie says:

    the Snipster said:

    Has anyone calculated how much energy is currently stored on Americans in the form of fat?

    …now what in the name of (insert diety or non-diety here) does that incredibly stupid series of words mean? The Victorians used treadmills to punish the poor and the small-time criminals, and yet were not as stupid as you’d like them to be to use PEOPLE to produce energy. Well, hell, if the Victorians were so damnably unenlightened as modern progs pretend the Victorians were, maybe all the poor everywhere would have died powering up teh factories and railroads, and today there’d be no AGW.

    Christ, even trying to think like this makes me wish I had something stronger in the house than Diet coke.

  105. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by parsnip on 12/26 @ 3:57 pm #

    Surely you anti-intellectual Republicans….”

    Says the believer in AGW!!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

    That is an irony OVERDOSE!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!

    That fat you were talking about is located between your ears, alfie.

    AHAAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!111!!!!

  106. MAJ (P) John says:

    N.O. surely at this time of year, you should not be mocking someone’s religious faith

  107. Sdferr says:

    Did someone say don’t mistake altruism for something real? Good point.

  108. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by MAJ (P) John on 12/26 @ 4:18 pm #

    N.O. surely at this time of year, you should not be mocking someone’s religious faith…”

    Why the heck not, Maj.?

    I mean reactionary leftists are deathly afraid of Christmas creches contamination, right?

    Why not mock alfie’s touching faith in Algore the Infallible?

    Maybe we could solve the energy crisis by lightingh alfies’s head on fire. The fat would burn brighter than a Saudi gas well blowout. You could see it from orbit.

  109. N. O'Brain says:

    Oh, and Cowboy:

    insect repellant.

  110. parsnip says:

    Says the believer in AGW

    I’m neutral on the AGW debate, No brain.

    But I recognize a large majority of Americans have “gone Green” and Texas, as America’s largest CO2 emitter, will soon be taking it like a two wetsuit wearing preacher.

  111. PR says:

    like ric said snip, stick it to Texas and there will be a leaving the state tax for oil, gasolinse, natural gas, and electricity and that will equal profit.

  112. N. O'Brain says:

    “But I recognize a large majority of Americans have “gone Green””

    You mean that reactionary leftists are teaching innocent school kids that the Carbon Armeggedonâ„¢ is coming and that they can only be saved by St. Algore the Infallible, don’t you, alfie?

    You’re a gullible fool, aplo, truly an idiotic consumer of reactionary propagande.

  113. Ric Locke says:

    No, we can’t do that, PR. Interstate Commerce and Okie laws, remember? Nor should we be able to.

    What we can do is tax it. A goodish-sized tax on carbon emissions, with a partial rebate for sales within the State, should pass muster — and would shut Baytown down tout le suite. I’m pretty sure we could get Jindal to go along, probably Mississippi as well.

    When they send the National Guard to open the facilities back up, the Oil, Chemical, and Atomic Workers will have something to say, open shop State or no — not to mention finding Guardsmen who know how to do it and are willing to.

    It might not be all that easy to accomplish anyway. Texas has Representatives who are Democrats, some of which are from Houston, and many of which depend on the “awl bidness” for their livelihoods “campaign contributions” — and whose votes depend on people who are dependent on the business.

    Bottom line is, I’m not all that worried about it. Nice to have monkyboy be explicit about wanting to sell me and mine into slavery, though.

    Regards,
    Ric

  114. Mossberg500 says:

    Who will the pseudo-intellectuals in California beg for energy during the next rolling blackouts? Maybe Tijuana..oh wait, they emit CO2 as well. Candles anyone?

  115. PR says:

    let me tell the tale of two young men who came to our neighborhood recently to help us go green. having drunk too much and losing control of their truck they took out a power pole and knocked out all the power in the neighborhood for the 4th time this year. having done all they could for the planet, they decided to leave on foot, at which time they were set upon by the entire neighborhood with the odds being approx. 100-2. when the cops finally arrived it was determined that all their injuries had been suffered in the accident. the point of the story is that going green in the abstract is much different than going green in reality at least as far as public opinions are concerned.

  116. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Maybe they’ll get it from Canada.

    Oh, right: Canada burns more oil per capita than the United States.

  117. parsnip says:

    Shorter Ric:

    Our handful of low level Democratic Congresscritters will be able to protect Texas’ pollutin’ ways just as well as W. has over the past 8 years.

  118. Ric Locke says:

    Heh. Bush told Ken Lay to get stuffed, and monkyboy and company have never forgiven him for it. It didn’t fit teh narrative, so since then they’ve been ignoring reality. They cling to that myth like Linus’s security blanket. Ain’t it cute?

    monky doesn’t like it; it therefore follows that nobody else likes it, which in turn means that it continues only because (stupid, ignorant, and incompetent) George Bush wants it to continue. But hey, it’s at least coherent, which we can’t say for most of the similar propositions.

    Go ahead and try, monkyboy. I think you’ll be a trifle disappointed, whichever way it turns out.

    Regards,
    Ric

  119. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    nipply’s entire raison d’etre is going to disappear on January 20th.

    I hope it’s been working on some new material.

  120. N. O'Brain says:

    “I hope it’s been working on some new material.”

    Well, no.

    The day they are nailing algae’s coffin shut, you’ll hear a muffled “It’s Bush’s fault!” from inside.

  121. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Sort of like the way dataless dave is still blaming everything on Reagan, you mean?

  122. Ric Locke says:

    For those of you who haven’t been following this at home, or who don’t recall “parsnip”‘s incarnation as monkyboy: The fine-haired dogs of the Texas oil business ran George Bush right out, with little to show. Our local “awl bidness” magnate (a Reagan intimate) used to make broad jokes about it over his bourbon&branch, jokes that would have fitted very nicely with the “stupid, incompetent, incoherent” version of the Left’s view of Bush. We are nevertheless obliged (according to monky and friends) to simultaneously believe that (a) being run out of the oil business confirms that Bush is Teh Stoopid, and (b) that Bush keeps the oil business so close to his heart that measures everyone except him feels are necessary are frustrated by his (incompetent, remember) machinations.

    In a way it ought to excite our admiration. To believe that red is blue, blue is yellow, and red and yellow are completely different from one another at the same time takes a great deal of processing power, I deem.

    Regards,
    Ric

  123. parsnip says:

    I simply believe Texas is America’s biggest emmiter of CO2, Ric.

    Everything else you pulled from your rather dull imagination.

  124. Ric Caric says:

    Hey, I hope all my friends at Protein Wisdom had a Merry Christmas. Always a pleasure!

  125. geoffb says:

    This,

    “Has anyone calculated how much energy is currently stored on Americans in the form of fat?”

    Most likely refers to this about liposuction power.

  126. happyfeet says:

    Some of y’all really made my day and thank you. This is the first time since I left California I’ve been able to check in. Mom’s pneumonia wasn’t, and instead it’s some stupid nonsmoker lung cancer and it’s very big and she is sort of little but she’s amazingly brave and she makes me feel very proud. The doctors have told us it would be totally stupid of us to be hopeful but we should pretend for mom just in case. Doctors are very weird people I think.

    I get to be here another week and then I guess I come back here again later but the timing of that depends on things I don’t know. That will be a branch point is what one of my new neurotic doctor friends says. The thing is I have responsibilities what they have given me and so I will be back around with you guys when I get a handle on everything and I plan on catching up on everything I missed. This isn’t very merry Christmas but I didn’t want to just up and disappear.

    oh. Ric – I had misunderstood your global warming comment last week and when I got here it was as cold as the Los Angeles I left and I shopped first thing when I got here but then it got warm and muggy and I had the wrong clothes but this weekend it’s supposed to freeze.

  127. happyfeet says:

    oh. And more in the spirit of the post I still miss psycho and buttons and there’s that cause there are too many people to commend otherwise I think. I haven’t clicked back enough to catch up on what Mr. Goldstein is up to but to him particularly I would like to wish a great year up ahead. He’s due is why.

  128. geoffb says:

    happyfeet,

    I’m so sorry to hear about your Mom. I will say prayers for her and for you.

  129. Hvy Mtl Hntr says:

    This place has been a breath of fresh air and great amusement- Thank you all.

    Happyfeet- My family will keep your Mom in prayer.

  130. Mossberg500 says:

    Sorry to hear about your Mom, happyfeet.

  131. Happyfeet, you and your mom will be in my prayers.

  132. Ric Locke says:

    happyfeet, I had rather thought most folks here were sufficiently familiar with my peculiarities to catch the inversion. Sorry you were inconvenienced. Here to the north of where you are, it’s supposed to rain this weekend. I hope it does. The lizards aren’t quite down to carrying canteens yet, but my stock tank is a good place for the animals to roll in the dust.

    Give your mother our best wishes. Yes, doctors are fairly strange people, but mostly they’re good at what they do. What they’re trying to tell you is to maintain a positive attitude. Despair is bad for you.

    Regards,
    Ric

  133. B Moe says:

    That’s a rough one, ‘feets. I will pray for your Mother and family. Hang in there.

  134. Pablo says:

    Oh, that truly sucks, ‘feets. Doctors predictions ain’t always right, and hoping they’re wrong isn’t stupid. You and Mom will have lots of good thoughts following you.

  135. BJTexs says:

    That’s a tough one to swallow, especially this time of year. My 88 year old mom has double pneumonia, which should be somewhat deadly except that she fights like cougar. I’ll keep your mom in my prayers and also pray you will find strength and wisdom.

  136. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I am very sorry to hear this, happyfeet.

    My thoughts are with you and your mother.

  137. Bob Reed says:

    Sorry to hear about your Mom, hf.

    Stay strong for her sake as much as yours, and optimistic. As Ric said, doctors are smart people and mostly good at what they do, but, our bodies are miraculous machines and are capable of surprising the most seasoned doctors from time to time. They base a lot of there assessments, diagnoses, and prognoses on statistical probabilities, but there are always outliers, so y’all got that goin’ for you…

    Like many others here we’ll remember your Mom in our prayers; that’s another intangible that isn’t factored into the statistical assessment the doctors make…

    May God bless and keep your Mom, may He heal all that afflicts her, so that she can live and prosper for many more years to come; enjoying the bosom of her loving family and the love of all her friends.

  138. Rusty says:

    If the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, she is an amazing woman. She’ll be in our thoughts.

  139. Cowboy says:

    ‘Feets:

    I had “some stupid nonsmoker lung cancer”–one of 3 recurrences from an initial bone cancer. The most optimistic doctor said I wouldn’t live another 5 years.

    That was almost exactly 30 years ago.

    So, this is to say, keep the faith and remember that though doctors are mostly smart and good, they can be wrong sometimes.

  140. Cowboy says:

    Oh, and hf, during the years I was sick/recovering, a dear friend of mine would tell me when he would be praying for me.

    It was uniquely comforting.

    So, I will be on my knees in a small church in Indiana today at 5:00 praying a rosary for your mother and for you.

  141. ushie says:

    hf, your mom and you are in my prayers.

  142. cynn says:

    happyfeet: good wishes to you and your mom.

  143. aw, just saw your post hf. we will keep her and you and your family in our good thoughts.

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