A reader writes:
Do you think Patterico has written enough about your having had the audacity — shallow, uncritical, anti-intellectual lefty-hating GOP cheerleader and overemotional failed academic that you are — to suggest that his calling Barack Obama a ‘good man’ was rather an unfriendly slight on ‘good’?
Yes.
But sadly. that doesn’t mean he’ll ever stop.
Oh. And Karl? If you’re going to start taking shots at me, have ball enough to do it here.
Listen: if those interested in becoming the new pundit class want to freeze me out from their linkfests, fine. Incest doesn’t appeal to me anyway.
But I will say what I feel. And, given the nature of this medium, I will often vent here, as is my wont.
The best thing about being a blogger — not a pro pundit or a journalist — is that I don’t have to pretend to be something I’m not, nor do I have to shade my language so as not to unnecessarily ruffle the feathers of the moderate middle.
If that means no more linky from sites who wish to replace the old media with a cyber-replica, I don’t much fucking care.
This is the home of the outlaw. And yeah, I’ll be self-effacing and ironize that from time to time, but on a very real level I mean it.
I don’t care about horse race politics. That was Karl’s thing. I care about ideas — and I laugh at those who are trying to frame my criticism of Patterico as that of an unthinking partisan cheerleader to Pat’s wise and moderate thinker.
Michele Catalano lecturing that right-wingers who don’t believe Obama is good have become what they despise?
Whatever. Precisely the kind of moral equivalence that rots our system.
But as long as PJM is buying the columns, though, keep churning ’em out.
You have to admit that O!’s a “good” snake oil salesman.
Patterico might not forgive the slight on his honor, I suppose. All too soon, O will provide all the correction for that issue of misplaced generosity, that P. will ever require.
I knew I should have stayed away from here today.
Back to gym with me.
I doubt Patterico will feel the same way after he posts Now they tell us(XCIX).
Okay, I just skimmed things over there.
It looks like Patterico’s claim that Obama is a “good man” is primarily based on what he’s said, not so much on what he’s done.
The Constitution of the Soviet Union said all sorts of lovely things, too.
I feel sick again.
pack it up Jeff/your too good for this miserable world
is why i come to this place
oh well- this is why i never brush my teeth with luke-warm water
and neither do the people on your wonderful site
“Get up Rocky-get up- u still got a shitload more movies to make!”
I think SarahW is on the mark. Baracky will unify. You’ll see. He’s president of a country that only exists in his bitter dark dirty socialist mind. So far.
Outlaws don’t do vanilla!
These kinds of people have to kill me off. They know why, too.
I wonder if Mr. Patterico will be taking part: Plans are being made to promote a national holiday for Barack Obama, who will become the nation’s 44th president when he takes the oath of office Jan. 20.
Baracky is not very compromisey they’ll find I think and appeasement is such an ugly word.
All the same when my family is cowering behind tombstones, I won’t go razzin’ Patterico that he’ll never be one of them. :)
i come for the funny
and the smart
and the funny
and the wise-assery
in case anyone cares
and the bakery
and the fuck u attitude
the not ‘back-off-ery’
did i mention smart?
cuz this sites smarter than fredo
not dumb-like everybody thinks
smart
Jeez, dre.
nishi gave me a happy song. It’s all I’ve got.
H’feets, I enjoyed looking at Liesl’s boyfriend’s website today.
Well, some of us value what you do. I know I do.
oh. I promised him today I’d stop calling him that. But the Sittin’ In My Studebaker! song sounds like a hoot.
I think that’s overly dramatic, and I think you overestimate your place in the cavalcade of shit Patterico is taking for his proclamation. But SEK can take a big wet suck on my ass. How fucking tiresome can one person be?
It may be dramatic, Pablo. But it’s OUTLAW dramatic.
I was wearing a chain wallet when I wrote it, just so’s you know.
Oh. And who is SEK?
Yeah, but what kind of hat did you have on?
Probably some pussy who wears a matching white chiffon dress, pill box hat and high heels.
An Affliction Vengeance beanie. With a crown of thorns wrapped around it.
Good for you, Jeff. These people don’t understand that it’s the ideas that count in the long run. Keep on doing what you do. You are the best.
I dunno how OUTLAW it is, but that’s quite a hat. And SEK is the really, really tiresome one.
Maybe Patterico needs some Extreme negative feedback.
My problem was never that you wanted to argue that Obama isn’t good. It’s that you *insisted* on questioning my integrity in doing so.
Now SEK is over there questioning your motives the same way you questioned mine. I don’t think he’s right about that either.
I guess we’ll see if your prediction is true that I will “never” stop posting about your “audacity.” Somehow I think that’s an overstatement. Because, you know, WORDS MEAN THINGS!!!
I’ll certainly be more skeptical of your posts in the future where you claim to divine the intentions of others, knowing as I do that you misjudged mine. But 1) I think I’ll get over it, your doubts notwithstanding, and 2) I still think you’re a brilliant writer.
Jeff: I like you. I love your site. Stop fighting this war. We know, and Patterico knows what President-elect Obama is. Don’t stop fighting. I don’t think Patterico will either.
Folks, it’s all about principle: Stick with it, and at the end of the day, you’ll be able to look yourself in the mirror.
And in the long run, that’s what counts.
You boys play nice now or I’ll send you both to bed without any supper.
Ya Hear?
;)
-Pat
You should just believe what’s in your heart cause there’s no border between us and nothing can divide us I think.
at one time I thought SEK was one of the rare lefty-libs who dealt from reason rather than forcing people into the cartoon non-leftist he carries in his head.
my bad
That studebaker song was alarming and operatic at the same time.
[…] Play nice… […]
I think that’s where you’re wrong, Pat. I think that’s exactly the estimation of the situation that you’re seeing. But if the argument about your statement is going to devolve into one about your overall virtue or lack thereof, it’s going to hinge on the statement at hand, which is pointless.
I don’t think that really helps anyone. After all, we’ve just elected a Marxist president. We probably ought to focus on that.
But calling his cd Gazebo Love was a masterstroke I think.
Oh, that’s from here, btw.
Went lookin’ for you tubes of little Hitler and Cruel to be kind, Nick Lowe songs, found this one
The word ‘good’ just doesn’t leave my tongue with a good feeling, if that tongue tries to use it in the same sentence with BHO. It just doesn’t fit so well with the Baracky I think I know.
Maybe others know a different one.
I think the post was principled, if pragmatism and a desire to do something politically is a principle. It’s just a bad principle, and one that I don’t believe Patrick generally follows.
That was the point.
As for SEK, he just likes to hear himself talk, and he’ll have better luck over there than he will here.
Seems to me that Patterico was just trying to be gallant to the winning O-pponent. That evening called for it. There’s no need to fear that he’ll go soft on Obama once the Messiah’s program rolls out.
It’s like that bumpersticker in the 80s: “Commit random and senseless acts”, or something like that.
And Serr8d licks his eyes with that tongue, eeh.
gas now, bitch!
Can I fill your tank, and suck your hose like a Russian whore!
ï òþ÷óûðòÃȄÂÑŽÑÂÑŒ ú ÃÂÃȄÂÑÂúõ, чтþñы ÑÂþôþüø÷øрþòðть ту ßрøüðôþýýу ø õõ ôþчõрõù.
This is the home of the outlaw.
Those grapes were sour anyway.
Me? I’d reinvent myself as a short-lived Ostrogoth.
Wow. SEK saying I wrote that post in order to start a blog spat and get traffic is just too rich. That guy’s entire blog is predicated on such traffic; me, I just reacted to reading the post after someone mentioned it in a comment. The idea that I want PARTY PURITY is also astounding — particularly when I don’t care about any party, and all I really want is intellectual coherence and a bit of respect for the founding principles and documents of this country.
Nishi is over there saying I have no balls. Karl is taking shots at me. There’s probably a lesson in there for me somewhere.
If more people want to read Patterico — and plenty of people have fled me for his site — more power to ’em. That I have even a few traditional conservatives who read here still amazes me, given my propensity to talk back and use dirty words.
Start a blog feud for traffic, though? Give me a break. That’s the gayest fucking thing I’ve ever heard.
And your mama douche’s with beet juice!
And your mama douches with beet juice!
Yeah, but some of those people are nishi, datadave and so forth. So it’s not as though Pat’s never done anything for you, Jeff. ;-P
“If more people want to read Patterico  and plenty of people have fled me for his site  more power to ‘em.”
I’d recommend that people flee other sites for mine *and* yours.
I can’t believe Karl hasn’t even returned here to comment.
And to think I thought he left for a legitimate reason. That thought has worn a bit thin over time.
Jeff, ÑÂúðöøтõ, чтþ Patterico, чтþñы ÿþùтø трðхðõт Sarah Palin ò ÷ðôýøцõ. Ne gandom nekogda, boom boom, suka, chlen marinovanii.
What Pat said was handsome, and exactly right. Your blogs treat some of the same issues. They do so from different perspectives. It’s not a zero-sum game.
I injured his honor, serr8d
It’s a gift.
By the way, I think datadave was over there calling me a skinhead.
Just good clean fun, that!
My Russian whore will fill your gas tank, while taking it in the ass – cause she can multi-task.
datadave is a shit-flinging monkey, just like thor. At least nishi was cute.
[blah blah personal attack blah. – ed]
My wife commented recently how she’s so proud that I don’t let this stuff get to me like I used to.
She was right. I want to do what I can to educate, but dealing with most of the trolls doesn’t further that. Occasionally, when they speak on topic, they create an opportunity for me to launch into a point I’d like to drive home.
Too much of the time, though, it’s personal — and I just can’t ever imagine spending my days going to sites that other people write and pissing on them as a kind of hobby. I mean, don’t these people know how to download porn?
“What Pat said was handsome, and exactly right.”
“Handsome”?
“accurate pollster”. There’s a definition of self contradictory I haven’t heard before.
JeffG
I’m almost a full traditional conservative (ie classic liberal) and while I read you both, I love this place and your writing because, dammit man, you make me think AND laugh.
Pat writes very well, but he can’t help reining in any shocking irrelevancy or risk … it’s that lawyer thing.
IMHO that’s where the “Obama is a good man” thing popped up. He is willing to make such a pronoucement as “good form” even over all indications to the contrary, and may only later realize that all his disclaimers of being foresquare against any Obama policy he thinks wrong, that all will not count as only his “Obama is a good man” line will be remembered and repeated by BarryO! cultists.
Pat is a man of good intentions but we all know the road is paved ….
For instance, “accurate pollster” is doubtless an old troll with a new name. What purpose does he serve? None that I can think of.
I mean, I already noted that I’d be self-effacing about the OUTLAW thing, and I have: of course it’s corny. But it’s also useful. Whereas ap’s comments? Not so much.
So away they go.
There’s probably a lesson in there for me somewhere.
Yes. The lesson is that you can judge a man’s character by his enemies.
Seems like you’d have more reason to worry if dicklessdouche, SEK, and the rest started saying nice things about you.
Don Boudreaux at Cafe Hayek:
Serr8d, ti raspizdyay kolhoznii, ti pizda s ushami, ia tebya imeyu.
So that is Jeff might one day throw it down in Russian, translation – Serr8d, you stupid redneck, you vagina with ears, I own you.
This from NRO the Corner linked above,
made me retaste dinner.
Presidents day was bad enough. Shoving together the birthdays of two of our greatest Presidents into one all purpose government union 3 day weekend excuse.
Now the want to add Obama. A man who hasn’t done anything except be “present”. A Zelig who has thugged his way to the threshold of the highest office on Earth to be celebrated with Lincoln and Washington.
His narcissism is exceeding all bounds and it hasn’t been one week since the election yet.
By the way, thor: you’re a sovok and a chekist.
is = if
I cannot, for the life of me call up the effort call the President Elect a good man, he is most certainly an opportunist. A man who will use anyone or anything at his disposal for advancement. Driving ambition, but for what? By his own words, he has called himself a blank slate, an empty rhetorical spouting suit.
For 8 years conservatives and republicans have endured some nasty hate and bilge spewed at them. They have been targeted for destruction, and all the while, the repubs and the conservs have withstood it with class and wit, trying to deflect it with the tired old defense of civility. But instead, we were dealt a crushing defeat. Patterico has once again picked up the “civility” defense, while Jeff has decided that it doesn’t work. And that is why they squabble, and while the squabble will continue through the GOP. Some want to indulge their pent up anger just a bit, but others know if we do, the finger wagging will continue.
We fight a losing game with a Press that has already picked sides.
I am a conservative. I post here. And at Pat and JOM and Ace and others. Each has overlap. I see posters I recognize on those sites that I see here. The important thing is that we are all interconnected in the meta-sense. That is the conservative fabric that is being woven on the webs. Each site is a piece of the quilt and the commenters (the sane ones anyway) are the stitches that bind the whole into the tent of the conservative movement.
I think that with that hopey-changey-barftastic analogy, I threw up a little in my mouth, but you know what I mean.
Off to workout now. I keep putting it off.
Which is dangerous. Because M’chelle says she’ll put me to work, so I have to stay fit.
Can I pump some gas while my Russian whore eats some dirty butt?
“Pat writes very well, but he can’t help reining in any shocking irrelevancy or risk … it’s that lawyer thing.”
Well, avoidance of risk is to some extent a “having bosses” thing. I don’t say anything I think is untrue, but there are stories I don’t tell and things I don’t say because I have the image of my office to think about — however much I try to separate the two.
It hasn’t kept me from calling Retardo Montalban a “pussy” at Sadly No . . . but it has reined me in to a certain extent.
Also, I will admit that Jeff is naturally far funnier than I am. I don’t take that as an insult, as he’s naturally far funnier than most people. Anyone who flees his blog for mine is a fool.
Too much of the time, though, it’s personal  and I just can’t ever imagine spending my days going to sites that other people write and pissing on them as a kind of hobby. I mean, don’t these people know how to download porn?
Their “Golden Showers” of love???
Karl, I know you’re reading this. You need to decloak and come back into the fold.
If thor says anything askance, I’ll personally track him down and slap him until his pussy bleeds.
For instance, “accurate pollster†is doubtless an old troll with a new name. What purpose does he serve? None that I can think of.
It was a metaphor. Maybe a simile, I forget which is which.
Give the fellow a break, Jeff! I think Patterico is pretty much what passes for a conservative in Los Angeles.
What you and I consider a conservative would be Attila the Hun in L.A.
I’ll personally track him down and slap him until his pussy bleeds.
HAHAHAHA!
“Patterico has once again picked up the “civility†defense, while Jeff has decided that it doesn’t work. And that is why they squabble . . .”
Not quite. The only reason I ever squabbled with Jeff is because he said that I was acting in an unprincipled and dishonest manner. I don’t feel the need to “squabble” with people who disagree with me, as long as they don’t attack me personally.
But I’ll get over it. Jeff says in his post here that I won’t, but I will.
Gas.Now.Bitch.
Pat
I certainly understand the cautiousness because of your job. Trolls could make trouble for you.
I, for one, appreciate the yeoman’s job you do in watching the LASlimes (though I have a bone to pick with you on accepting their reasoning on the Obama tape thing).
I just have a gut feeling you are going to regret your magnanimity towards BarryO! much sooner than you thing.
I have even a few traditional conservatives who read here
At the risk of being called a hypocrite, I am one of those.
This blog is TITS!!
thing = think
argh
“But I’ll get over it. Jeff says in his post here that I won’t, but I will.”
Let us hope that both of you do, because you and Jeff serve as good examples to the conservative viewership. We don’t need an echo chamber like DKOS but we do need rationed, logical and intelligent men and women on the right to inspire and move us all past this period.
I read both yours and Jeff’s blog, personally I’m taking Jeff’s side on this issue here, but I will not impugn your character, I just think you’re being a bit naive. :)
“I, for one, appreciate the yeoman’s job you do in watching the LASlimes (though I have a bone to pick with you on accepting their reasoning on the Obama tape thing).”
I accept it regarding the promise of confidentiality, which I suspected might be the case even before they said so.
I don’t accept that explanation as an excuse for failing to release more information. But I think you know that already.
Yes, handsome. In that old “gracious, generous, pleasing,dignified sense”. Although I’m not really opposed to a nice set of guns.
Keith Taylor, you’re diametrically wrong.
I and others life Jeff G. have one picture of Barack Obama and in my case at least, it is of an evil man (pro-infantide and partial birth abortion = evil in my eyes, and Jeff G. has other issues that he may rate rate higher in importance, which Obama also fails).
Patterico sees Barack Obama as basically decent. I think he’s a liar, a political thug, a megalomaniac, and if he’s not checked, has the potential to become a leftist totalitarian dictator.
Admittedly he may never. But in the meantime he will still increase the amount of children killed in the United States and weighted against this, during a political campaign when Obama couldn’t afford to get on the bad side of voters he said some half-decent things, which for the most part coincided with his goal of becoming President anyway.
Clearly I’m wrong, Patterico is wrong, or it’s somewhere in the middle (although in the middle between what I say and what Patterico says would still be a fairly bad man).
Kevin, anyway, it’s nonsense to say “we” AND Patterico know what Obama is. Someone somewhere here doesn’t.
No, not naive; lawyerly. Pat’s covering every angle possible.
But using a chess analogy, he’s pushing a pawn.
Oh, that guy Paleo Pat, who exhorted Jeff and me to “play nice”?
He is Chuck Adkins.
Yeah, that Chuck Adkins.
So when I thought he was an asshole, turns out I was right.
The appearances and strategerizing parts of the argument have fallen away. The people are watching parts. Those were interesting and important and puzzling. Does it really work like that I wonder. The idea that how we disagree with our new president person is key seems predicated on a premise that what is happening is normal, just a turn of the wheel of democracy as we’ve always known it. But it’s not at all normal what we’re seeing. It just isn’t.
I’d beat your hick face until your eyes are blacker than the inside of Obama’s asshole.
I don’t know if you’re being dishonest. I doubt it. It’s possible that you might be doing some self-preservation if the Obama regime and its supporters are anywhere as nasty as some people think they are, but I tend to think you’re not lying.
However, I do believe you lack integrity in this case because one day you’re telling us Obama will bring back the horror of partial-birth abortion (stabbing skull, sucking out brains, etc., your descriptions) and the next day you’re telling us he’s basically decent because of some things he said.
If one of the definitions of integrity is:
… then I think you completely fail this test on this really important issue. It was, after all, your last argument about why people should vote against Obama.
ewww… Chuck Adkins?
I feel dirty being even in the same thread as he is….
I’d beat your hick face
You’re a coward, thor.
You’ve proven it repeatedly.
Now, get me my free gas, bitch.
I’d beat your hick face until your eyes are blacker than the inside of Obama’s asshole.
My Russian whore would be willing to tongue O!’s asshole, and could fill a couple of gas tanks simultaneously.
Yeah, Paleo Pat = Chuck Adkins. The guy who insulted the wife of Mike from Cold Fury, after she had died.
The irony of that guy telling us to “play nice” is something.
thor, one day you may get the opportunity.
;D
I think you’re going to have to get in line for that, serr8d.
Chistoph
As Pat said on his own site,
Now, considering I also have ten years in at a DA office (NOT as a lawyer) and am now in Probation Dept, my perspective is a bit different. I see the graduations of morality/immorality and don’t view it was a strict good/bad dichotomy. Obama may no be as “evil” or “bad” as some guy who has murdered his girlfriend, but he has done or allowed to be done, things that are unethical, immoral and questionably criminal in his name.
All sin isn’t the same, anymore than all crime. Obama may still be in misdemeanor land..flirting with felonies … but that doesn’t make him innocent.
I have seen little indication that he is “evil” (which is a conscious effort to do evil things and know that they are evil things) but I still think his moral bank account is fully in the red.
He may redeem himself, I fear he will not.
Time to plant those Victory Gardens, friends, and learn to barter. There is a storm on the horizon and it doesn’t look pretty.
I’ll practice punching my Russian whore borscht filled blowup doll while pumping gas.
I have the odd feeling JeffG took something I said in not the wry and dry way I meant it. My fault if so.
You might mistake my meaning too, Patterico. I take at face value you are not consciously acting against principle.
But I think JeffG is right at the same time. I think you might not really know yourself here. He thinks you too wise to be taken in. I think I do too, at least on some level.
Is it practical, is it wise, to allow Obama “good”? I don’t know. But I won’t do it.
Well, Darleen, it was Patterico who used the partial-birth stabbing skull with scissors / sucking out brains / “horror” example. That post made an impact on me. I referred people to it and thought it was eloquent and entirely correct.
On the other hand, Patterico pointed out to some decent things Obama had said, and I’m sure no one doubts he must have done some decent things in his life. Most people have, even vicious criminals.
At best that seems to me to indicate the “jury is out” on Obama. I think Patterico concluding he’s basically a nice/decent/good man is ridiculous. And lacking integrity.
SBP
Would you guys let this grandma cut in line? I’d love to skewer the Obamabot under my 4″ red stilletos and hear him squeel.
Tvoy papa galuboy, don’t ask how I know. Ppppfff!
Christoph, I can never address your abortion arguments without derailing a thread completely. But a principled person can accept that D&E is a necessary procedure in some instances, and take great issue with your characterization of any contrary view to your own about that issue as evil. That’s not why Obama is bad.
Gas.Now.Bitch.
Darleen, Spies, Brigands & Pirates, serr8d:
While Thor’s figuring out the free gas thing, you think we could throw in “free diet dr pepper” clause in that as well?
рþÑÂÑÂøùÑÂúðѠшûюхð
I think you should focus on his demonstrations of lack of integrity with regard to that issue, especially a vote of “present” instead of yea or nay.
Size 11, thor.
Remember that.
SarahW, it was Patterico who described it as a horror. I find it hard to believe someone who brings about a horror is “good”.
“But a principled person can accept that D&E [and/or partial-birth abortion – ed] is a necessary procedure in some instances…”
Maybe, SarawW., a “principled” person can, but a good person simply cannot under the majority of circumstances where it is in fact used.
Plus, remember, Patterico called this a horror.
Oh, and it sure as hell is why Obama is an evil sonofabitch, taken together with his support of infanticide under certain circumstances.
úðчðùтõ üþù óð÷, bitch!
I’m sure it’s better than yours, ya sobakayob.
Here, and now, the argument is fruitless, and a waste of time. We can speculate on what BHO is capable of doing, throw in our ‘worst fears’ or our ‘high hopes’ but nothing but time will tell the tale.
Personally I surmise there’s a strong probability of extra-large negatives. We should be prepared for the worst, and feel relief if BHO turns out to be as innocuous as Eisenhower.
But, in these charged times, with so many powder kegs laying about, it’s Boy Scout motto time: Be Prepared. (I would say give him enough rope to hang himself, but that might be RACIST!!11!!! )
Take your boots out of your ass, show off.
Christoph, frankly, I don’t think you have any informed notion of when that procedure is “generally” used. And, BTW, it is almost never used, certainly not the way you describe it. You could do with an education.
You know, a discussion by email would be acceptable to me. I don’t have desire to inflict an abortion fight on other people when they are talking about something else.
My Russian whore is also a dog fucker, and did I mention she can pump gas?
Just tell me when the soul is implanted, SarahW.
That knowledge would certainly help me resolve much soul-searching.
Don’t listen to sPies, his nostrils are full of my gas, ppppfffff!
Ah, thor. Always beating up on the women.
You really are a cowardly little shitstain, aren’t you?
Size 11, thor.
Remember that.
My Russian whore can be a koshkayob sometimes, or any domesticated pet for that matter. She’s a giver in that respect. Fill’er up?
I can be a Sooka sin Pizdogreez sometimes, but I’d rather pump gas!
Serr8d, If there is a soul, does it not live independent of the body?
I just did my best Jeff impression on Patterico’s thread.
Thor, will you… share yourself, give all your “goodness” to me? I’m tired of fag cock. I’ll cook. I’ll clean. I’ll learn to speak Russian!
Super derailing, there I go. I’m sorry.
Laugh it up, thor.
While you can.
SarahW, this is entirely relevant to the discussion of whether Patterico’s conclusion about Barack Obama being a decent man is correct, and whether Patterico is showing integrity by calling the man who would bring back such “horror” decent and good.
As far as usage of partial-birth abortion, I will go with the source himself, the relevant November 2nd, 2008, Patterico post:
Even if (you’re not) you are right, you’re arguing against the information Patterico himself says he believes, in bold type no less.
EPIC FAIL.
ewww… Chuck Adkins?
I feel dirty being even in the same thread as he is….
Ohnoes. I engaged him over there.
I have a feeling I’m about to be renounced…
óрÑÂ÷ýðѠÿþõ÷ôúð
Thor’s Nuance of Russian Linguisitics. Part 1:
A peshka is someone who is worthless.
Techka is vaginal leakage.
Don’t confuse the two, unless it is your intent.
Independent of the body, yes, but I don’t know if we have to right to set it free ahead of schedule.
SBP’s Nuance of Russian Linguistics, Part 0:
You can’t speak Russian, or any other language, with your jaws wired shut.
The More You Know!
I mistyped Patterico’s excerpt, so I will retype it because it’s critical for an understanding of the last post:
So Patterico is saying are dead wrong when you write this:
If anyone can do with an education on the subject, it is yourself.
Getting back to the point of this thread, I’ve said my piece. Patterico believes Obama is decent and I and others think it’s ludicrous. I don’t believe he’s a liar, but I do think Patterico lacks integrity in this instance for the reason I’ve expressed.
I see the blogging Right as “organized” on a Federalist model. All try to do what they can in whatever fashion seems to be best to them.
Disagreements happen and are argued out, mostly in civil and logical ways, and in the end no one has to do any others bidding and can go their own way or not. The best or correct way will work best and by example win the argument.
On the Left, from personal experience long ago, and from the actions of recent decades, consensus building always flows from the top down. The elite decide how things should be done, seen, thought or talked about and over night that is the consensus.
The internet linking patterns showed this difference. On the Right links flowed both up to the main sites and out from those to the smaller less traveled ones.
On the Left the linking goes up to the big sites but very little linking goes down to the smaller sites.
Thor’s Nuance of Russian Linguistics. Part 2:
It doesn’t depend on what is is.
Obama horosho means Obama is good.
Obama ne horosho means Obama is not good.
See kids, nyet the ixnay.
If your argument is that Patterico is hoisted on his own petard by his previous posts on a method of carrying out induced abortion, that’s different that the one I was having with you. (So I’ll stop having my discussion with you, unless you want to take it private).
Patterico may well believe that O may be mistaken about his position, but acted in good faith. I dare not speak for Patterico.
Ѡûюñûю ñыть óûуÿыü – just like my Russian whore!!!
thor lips
I’d beat your hick face until your eyes are blacker than the inside of Obama’s asshole.
Because thor is obviously quite familiar with the inside of Obama’s asshole.
Maybe if thor removes his tongue, the rest of us can get a look…
No, no, no, Patterico does not lack integrity. That’s BS.
He has an excess of faith in BHO’s humility is all.
Ah, Edwin Starr is singing on another thread.
thor, huh, yeah
What is he good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
thor, huh, yeah
What is he good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y’all
thor, huh, good God
What is he good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
That’s not completely true as he does serve as an almost perfect “bad example”.
Oh thor you should pump my gas
Pay my mortgage too real fast
Hey thor you should pump my gas
I didn’t elect him
Beep beep’m beep beep yeah
Because thor is obviously quite familiar with the inside of Obama’s asshole.
That’s how he knows what’s for dinner!
Time will tell, but I think BHO is as humble as thor. And as “good” too
“Ohnoes. I engaged him over there.
I have a feeling I’m about to be renounced…”
Yeah, some people are best ignored.
LauraW,
Since you publicly made the insulting remark I could, “You could do with an education,” and also stated that I’m uninformed on the subject, and I’ve now proven I got my facts on this subject from Patterico, then can you at least publicly:
1. apologize and admit you are wrong
2. acknowledge that while you believe you’re right, Patterico is wrong
… just for the sake of intellectual honesty. I’d like to see it from you. I’m not saying you don’t have it, but just dropping the discussion after your public insult without doing one or the other would be intellectually honest.
Sorry, my mistake. SarahW.
#149 – Wait, was that in reference to me? I don’t think anything I said over there was mean spirited or uncivil. Maybe I missed something.
*dishonest. Yes I’m making typos. Where’s preview when you need it!
Thor’s Nuance of Russian Linguistics. Part 3:
When to add the yob.
Sobakayob = dog fucker
Koschkayob = cat fucker
Svinyayob = pig fucker
Mahtyob = that’s not a word, it’s just not.
If you want to say “motherfucker” you say yebanat, not mahtyob, you silly Amerikansky.
“We should be prepared for the worst, and feel relief if BHO turns out to be as innocuous as Eisenhower.” Good advice.
If he doesn’t get his way on any of his Policeh, he would be just dandy as a figurehead as far as I am concerned.
malaclypse the tertiary ,unless you are Chuck Adkins, no.
But Obama will be pushing. Pushing the dirty socialism. Which I am wondering if Happyfeet has known that the “dirty” part really does seem to go with the territory. Check out #8, #11, and #14. Poor Alinsky had his work cut out for him.
My Russian whore is koshei bessmertni.
Whoops, that link didn’t take. try again for the dirty socialisms.
Marx, Mao, and Che. All stinkers.
Christoph, take it private or drop it. That’s it for me on the subject here.
Obviously, SarahW, you have decided to let both your false statement and insult stand uncorrected. You were wrong and I have proven so using Patterico’s post and reference.
Thor’s Nuance of Russian Linguistics. Part 3:
thoryob: I want Obama’s majestic black penis tickling my uvula.
Christoph, I won’t address your remarks here, there would be no end to it. If you want to talk in good faith I’m willing, but privately, please.
lee: thanks – was confused (as usual)
But isn’t everything about me?!?!
SarahW, you’re displaying intellectual dishonesty if not cowardice. You made a false statement publicly and you did not have to do so. You called me ignorant and said I needed an education, when you were wrong as Patterico’s post itself, its reference, and numerous other sources would demonstrate. It would be a simple matter to choose 1 or 2 above and it would not go on ad infinitum.
However, you prefer to leave your insult and false statement on a critical matter of life and death (a “horror”) uncorrected. I had to challenge you on this in public so other people were not mislead by your ignorance.
But isn’t everything about me?!?!
Why yes sweetie, yes it is.
*rolls eyes* ;-)
Jeez Christoph, why so pissy?
You’re all good. Not a idiot or anything. Honest.
If you make enemy’s unnecessarily I might change my mind. Converts are better.
At night I lay on my straw mattress dreaming I was Michelle Obama. That Barack fellow is such a good man. Michelle’s man got him a good paying job too. sPies ain’t even good enough to be President of Africa.
Christoph, I don’t accept your characterization, but I won’t discuss it here.
Mostly because as much as I might agree with SarahW on other issues, life and death of innocent unborn children is too important to let a blatant falsehood stand unchallenged in the public realm. Well-meaning people could be swayed in a way they wouldn’t otherwise — nor wouldn’t even want to be — if they knew the truth.
Well Christoph, it wasn’t the time or place for Sarah, she politly told you that a couple of times, and pressing the matter is counterproductive.
Shrillness rarely makes the point you intend.
She also insulted me based on a falsehood and refused to either back up her position, nor apologize and retract it after I provided evidence to the contrary (provided helpfully enough by Patterico).
Under the circumstances, she didn’t deserve a great deal of courtesy from yours truly. Further, even if she did, accurate information re: life and death of unborn children (partial birth abortion) provided to others here so they can make an informed decision is more important than anyone’s potential hurt feelings.
Abortion discussions rarely make friends. Read Patterico’s post. It’s extremely graphic and offensive to supporters of abortion, and minimizers, and apologists.
Meh.
I’m on your side of the issue, and don’t care about the personal BS. I’m just trying to give you some advice, for what it’s worth.
It’s possible to to change peoples minds, but only when they are ready, and the ground work is done. Press the issue too much and no one will want to talk to you about it.
Don’t be that guy…
Man, I wanted to try and keep up on this thread, but between the “thor” character and some russian dude, it takes me 10 minutes just to pull the scroll bar down.
Dudes. “Meaningful discourse.” Look into it.
I’ve read PW for quite a while now, as well as Patterico. Definitely different tone, different approach, different culture. Same general motivation and goals, though. Both quality sites in every respect. Patterico you have to read with a cup of coffee and a clear head. PW you’ve got to read with a shot of good rum and a chase of a decent import, not to mention a thesaurus.
Although, I do rather miss the red pills and the armadillo, but they’re probably so, you know, “Bush Era.”
I just hope you guys iron out the ruffled pin feathers, and all that.
20 minutes ago Patterico wrote this:
Does anyone know what the hell he’s talking about or does he just need some sleep?
So “psycho” made a mistake about the email. I don’t think Jeff G. would think Patterico would just making up emails. I could be wrong. Maybe Jeff G. believes that.
But I really don’t think so. Patterico should link to Jeff G.’s alleged reaction to psycho’s comment (wherever that is: I haven’t found it yet), because that’s just a strange thing for Patterico to say.
You are a terminal bigot, and probably clinically insane.
Sin? Misdemeanor land? Flirting with felonies?
For how long have you woken-up to a bottle of Wild Turkey?
Learn to barter? Do you mean bartend? Outside of your dried up, worn out orifices, what are you going to barter? Your cushioned booster seat, your dinner table bib, your Elvis ashtray?
You sound like a mushhead of apocalypse wearing adult-designed diapers. Maybe it’s just your yeast infection talking, who can really say, but trust me, you sound like you’re on the fringe and in need of bed restraints to keep your limbs from flailing at Obama-ghosts in your nightmares.
And just think thor, ALL your comments about Palin are that times a hundred.
You must be so proud.
I looked into it. Per the question of universals, are you a Abelard man or a William of Champeaux man, or possibly a Roscellinus sort’a nominalist type?
On PW I’m the constant motion of backhanding wayward cranks, I welcome your face and pipings of irrelevancy. Don’t act like you’re above being dragged by the ankles back into the locker room. And remember, sPies’ cock fits into an electric socket, so think of that before French-kissing Jr. High boys like him.
I couldn’t be prouder, Lee. Of God-hairlips, hicks and hayseeds, and of sweaty freon huffers who live in housetrailers, I’m not sympathetic. They need to be marked. My chewing gum jammed on their foreheads is a good start.
Huh, seems if they were all that, you would see’em a mile away. You’re perceptions appear to be 180 degree out of phase.
I recommend you pull your head from your ass and straighten up your shoulders.
kk, I’ll say it to your face.
There is a whole blog at Culture 11 that is just the Pomocons, post modern conservatives.
They talk among themselves and sound just like you talking to yourself over here.
Why the heck aren’t you over there interfacing with them and/or schooling them?
Freddie and Helen and Ivan and James are super-bright and I think you could add a lot to the discussions……unless…..you’re scared?
I mean…you write beautifully, but nothing happens here.
PW is like the bunch of nerdboyz that sweep up at Bonnie Bray Hobbies and play tabletop in the back room at lunch.
ITS OVER.
Where do go from here?
I like it when Neocons fight with each other.
The mere ability to discourse with aplomb, efficacy, and erudition, is of little consequence when one repeatedly fails to evidence the desire to do so. As a matter of course, it detracts significantly from the credibility of your positions, and puts you firmly into the category of “wanker.”
Troll: Making random, non-sequitorish comments only loosely (if that) tied to the conversation, not for the purpose of contributing measurably to the discourse, but rather, just to be a shit.
where do go from here?
Thank you for bringing your repetitive nonsense over here from Patterico. I’m sure calling Jeff “scared” for not taking part in some “super bright” conversation over at culture 11 will convince him to run right over there. Shamed he’ll be, kate, cause who could face life after not taking your dare. I fetch you some gas, and we can three way will my Russian whore. Where do you choose to go from here huh?
Well, here we go then — this lovely bit of news apropos the Officer of the New Office of the Imperial Bipartisan Commander in Chief’s Office of Change and President Elect Office. Complete with seal. Good to see just how much the leftists have done for the country,electing this political megalomaniac. Good to see just how much the leftists have done for even, open discourse vetting this political megalomaniac.
O!
If shame still existed, the left’d be feeling it. If. Where’s my gas, bitch.
Ga! I spent yesterday with my bil who is leaving for Afghanistan this week. And FUCKING OBAMA is going to be the president. Hopefully my bil was just tired and … I dunno, perhaps in the military ‘get-ready’ frame of mind, but he didn’t seem in the same confident state he did before he went to Bagdad. I’m afraid that his concern has to do with his new Commander in Chief.
I’m not terribly interested in debating whether Obama is a good man.
And, honestly, the more other blogs decide to shut Jeff out – out of pettiness, or personality conflicts, the more I decide I don’t need to read those other blogs. Isn’t it about the ideas?
#183
Then shouldn’t you be where the neocons hang out?
Darleen. I wish I could view the election of the annoited as, ah, layered as you do, but I have a much more working class view of this.And don’t think I don’t find Pattericos graciousness classy. It is.
We elected a poisonous snake. If you give it any leeway at all you’re going to get bit.I don’t perceive any gradient of ‘goodness’ here.I do perceive a relentless struggle to wrest from me what little personal freedoms remain to me while simultaneously picking my pocket.I don’t see and inherent goodness in that. Yeah. I take it personally.
And thor. You backhand nobody. you just beclown yourself and make whatever cause you think you’re championing just that more rediculous. So take your establishment Obamas ass kissing self the hell out of here and start getting with Obamas free gas program you snaggle toothed conch bitch.
So take your establishment Obamas ass kissing self the hell out of here and start getting with Obamas free gas program you snaggle toothed conch bitch.
Yes sir! Would you like to share my Russian whore as well?
And this from Bloomberg, Carin (h/t Glenn Reynolds). The American system, it has gone off the rails. I for one welcome my New World Orderers.
And I for one welcome bright thinkers who would resist Obamalot with silk flowers, tiny kisses, and complete, abject, full-on, clinical denial.
You know, my life depends on the monthly benevolence of a major drug company. I wonder how much longer I have to live once everything’s collectivised and medical research finally augers in.
“If shame still existed, the left’d be feeling it. If. Where’s my gas, bitch.”
You are talking about the same people that have been calling the president a nazi murderer for the last 8 years who now say “everyone should respect the new president” without a trace of laughter or irony. I do not think the people you are referring to are mentally stable enough to feel shame.
And we laughed and laughed and laughed. Because we were so bright.
The left is simply overrun by thieves and liars. Oh, and the apathetic and fantasy-filled. The a-historical. The obscene. The free gas people, bitches.
I mean, even they need a party to call their own.
I can’t claim to understand all the banking stuff (now’s your chance thor), JH. I was a business major in college for a few years, but I partied a lot during my undergraduate years so it’s all rather fuzzy.
On my two hr drive home last night, I worried about my bil. Will he get the support he needs? He’s going to be way too close to Iran for my comfort.
I like it when Neocons fight with each other.
Dickie’s back, and fishing for hits on his website. Get bent, Dick! Happyfeet, this is the loser we spoke of yesterday.
I think the most disgusting about face we are going to see is the sudden and swift reversal of the portrayal of our troops. Instead of baby killing torturers killing brown people for oil they will become shining heroes spreading O!’s message of hope and change thru-out the world.
Dudes. “Meaningful discourse.†Look into it.
Seriously. Did trollhammer break or something?
Not sure if it’s hopey or changey, but BHO (PBUH) is dragging corpses out from under the bus.
Robert Malley has been rehabbed.
The once and future mideast advisor is back on the job.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128308
And, Happy Birthday USMC!
Not sure if it’s hopey or changey, but BHO (PBUH) is dragging corpses out from under the bus.
Look for grandma’s funeral to be strategically scheduled, while Michelle and the children visit Disneyland.
I was listening to AFN on election day, and there was a news snippet about how there were a big group of GI’s over in Iraq watching the election returns in the rec hall, and when it was announced that Obama was the winner…there was nothing but silence.
I’m assuming a stunned silence. These are the people who are living and dying over there, who see day to day the difference we are making, can see how far the Iraqi people have come, and are now faced with a CINC who wants rip them untimely away, possibly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Carin, the best hope is that there are enough vets in Congress these days with some common sense that the funding won’t dry up overnight. Fingers crossed.
great job, thor.
You dal etim kozlam vonuchim horoshen’ko prikurit’
Unbelievable, how bol’shinstvo idiotov zdes’ polnost’yu s zabitimi mozgamy, nikakogo ponyatiya shto proishodit.
I bol’shinstvo prosto vruni raspizdyaiskie, s lobotomiey ot Rush’a i Sean’a.
Douchebags…
Our troops should be happy to know that the Europeans are going to help.
Thanks sash, would you like to share my Russian whore, or maybe we can swap?
Wow US criminal trials for terrorists captured on a battlefield in a foreign country. To all those idiots I see on TV saying this guy is a centrist go F yourselves.
http://snipurl.com/5a6kr
You’ve let your daughter date a young man because he’s so well spoken, even though he’s a drug user and he refuses to tell you anything about himself but dammit, he so damn well-spoken, and now your daughter has syphilis and gonnorhea.
The only way for the healing process to begin, is for this young man to have is friends ass-rape you and then prosecute you for war crimes. This nation must be healed.
If we’re going to lobotomize anyone, let’s do Olbermann or Maddow. Fill up your Russian whore…er, I mean gas tank?
Non-sequitorish?
Good sir, there is no dark corner of etymology where your type of word molestation can hide. Here on PW either you either care for you words or I will beat the ever-living crap out you. I will cause you clots. Your face will be mistaken for a to-go order of veal marsala. Your mother, didn’t she ever wash out your mouth after an indecent grammatical cavorting? To violate “non sequitur” as if it was Bristol Palin’s gash on Prom night. You, Sir, have been warned!
óôõ – üþѠûюñþòь üðüы
Is it a premeditated and pretentious arrogance, mere clueless blundering, or a near sociopathic egocentric narcissism that would cause a person to visit an enlish language clog and then comment only in a foreign language?
The sort of chuckle-in-your-fist smug superiority found in all the BEST intellectualist curcles among the gliteratti and University elite.
heh. now that it’s safer, the brave EU is coming to help;
They’re trying to think of way to help stabilize w/o soiling their pretty uniforms. Of course, the outward face will be they they were isolated by Bush. @@. I’m SO GLAD we’ve elected a president the world likes.
Yea, thor and sashal need to get a room.
Damn I hate typose.
gas attendant wannabe,
you should brush on your Russian,
so far you just proved what I said about you and your ilk, but exceptional cluelessness of pidarasa podobnogo tebe, will hinder the brain fart process going in your skull with narrow forehead…
Yea, thor and sashal need to get a room.
We’ll bring our Russian whores too!
So does that mean swapping Russian whores is out of the question?
Spacebo, Sashal, verno chto eta tyajelaya gullaboys zaslyajebayet togo, chto to je samoy kak on give.
first, get a load of viagra impotent braindead ( don’t even realize how badly I unsulted you?, learn some russian douchebag), then talk to me , may be I will be able to start you with the nice arabian goat( have to talk and ask Zohan for this)
Ѡûюñûю úþ÷ûþò and russian whores filled with borscht!
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Ga! I spent yesterday with my bil who is leaving for Afghanistan this week.”
Is said bil stationed at Camp LeJuene, perchance?
3/8, maybe?
And happy Marine Corp Birthday to Matt the Marine, and my boss, Gunny Steve.
Please Jeff…..you have great, great talent.
But PW is like an island of Japanese soldiers that just…can’t…..believe….that WWII is OVER!
It is not true that the electorate didn’t know about AYERS! McCain/Palin brought it up at every rally, McCain made commercials, the 527s made commercials….
AND NO ONE THAT MATTERED CARED!
You have great ideas, and you write brilliantly and persuasively…..use your SuperAwesome SuperPowers for good.
Help rebuild your party if you believe in it.
For Krom’s sake write stuff that people can link to.
Use language, don’t fight it.
Deconstructing the loss is only helpful insofar as it brings an understanding of how to win.
You have bigger problems than elite media bias and the true “signalling” of Obama’s and Ayers’ books.
In 2020 caucasian becomes a minority.
The GOP has lost a generation of youth.
Ruffini is trying to get young hip conservatives to help win back young voters. You ARE young and hip.
The Pomocons are hammering out the new meaning of conservatism, what does it mean to be a conservative in the 21st century?
Climb out of the foxhole and fucking help!
This place is bad for you, it is an echo chamber where everone agrees with you and says how great you are.
It is stagnant.
ok.
I’m sorry for commenting.
I hate to see you waste your great talent, but, it is a free country.
Like He-Man said, Good Journey, Jeff.
and……BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL!
Ask “wheelers_cat”, aka nishi.
Carin, here’s a comment that sums up what the Fed has become.
Hey thor and sashal when you two signing up to go fight the good wars? Come on you two chickenhawk cowards get to work winning wars and giving me free gas.
wheelers_cat made a nut salad.
WTF is a “pomocon”?
Hey thor and sashal when you two signing up to go fight the good wars? Come on you two chickenhawk cowards get to work winning wars and giving me free gas.
Don’t forget we’re up to two russian whores with every tank of gas!
I want to replace my husband with pdbuttons.
WTF is pomocon?
It’s a “super bright” term dreamed up by “really cool” people meaning post-modern conservative. Sort of like the “super adventure club” on south park.
oh and….use humor.
it is your greatest gift.
but bitter, angry sarcastic LOOZER humor doesn’t work.
Be the funnie witty rebel we all fell in love with with, back in the day.
Please.
I want to replace my husband with pdbuttons.
Do I get ôòõ рþÑÂÑÂøùÑÂúøх шûюхø ø úþ÷õû?
Sweet jeebus on a pogo stick, kate can’t eve spell “Crom”.
Is said bil stationed at Camp LeJuene, perchance?
My bil is Army, out of California. Happy Marine b-day, though :)
“My bil is Army, out of California.”
Ah.
My son leaves Thursday.
but bitter, angry sarcastic LOOZER humor doesn’t work.
greifquest, you should take your own advise.
Afghanistan.
Qualify that with The Republican Treasury and Fed, you flag waving hallucination.
And yes, I read your anti-charity treatise and all I have to say about it is that I believe you to be an Americanoidessive, which my pet name, combined term, favored moniker for American-paranoid-obsessive.
sasha,
Is this a Russian site now? Do you even realize how your misplaced arrogance makes you look? Of course not. Seeing as Russian is the language of those who accept their spoon fed info and look down on others who cherish their freedom. You think you’re better than non-Russians because of the Motherland’s rich history. Fuck your rich history. You laid down for the military and then you came to this country. Now start screaming indignantly immigrant. It’s what you do. Just look at yourself. You come to PW and start typing in Russian and then scold others for not knowing Russian. This is America Jack! When you know English well enough to not look like an idiot, then maybe you can graduate to lecturing folks on the proper verbs and conjunctions in the language of runaways.
You got chased from a Russian site didn’t you?
Carin, here’s a comment that sums up what the Fed has become.
I can honestly only understand it in the most rudimentary form. Apparently, my failure as a business student wasn’t entirely due to a hangover and lack of sleep;)
That’s about when my bil is leaving. i think he has to report tomorrow – they moved it up at the last minute. I wonder if they’ll end up anywhere near the same place. Doug is infantry. in Bagdad, his CO died in his arms. A week later, her wife sent him a ‘Dear John’ letter. oye. i worry.
Is this a Americanoidessive site?
Sash, to vote for Obama was the crime of the century with these moose-truther-chudak.
his wife.
t is not true that the electorate didn’t know about AYERS! McCain/Palin brought it up at every rally, McCain made commercials, the 527s made commercials….
AND NO ONE THAT MATTERED CARED!
You have great ideas, and you write brilliantly and persuasively…..use your SuperAwesome SuperPowers for good.
Do you think nishi sees the conflict in typing those two sentences next to each other?
Careful thor.
You’re treading very close to turning this into a “thor and sashal’s Gay Fun House” site. It’s making me a little uncomfortable. It must be what watching The View is like.
Afganistan is the good war.
Unless you get an MEU, most all the Misguided go the A-stan now.
Maybe they speak Russian there. Nah, probably not.
but bitter, angry sarcastic LOOZER humor doesn’t work.
Be the funnie witty rebel we all fell in love with with, back in the day.
This brings to mind the image of the chick who regrets dumping her boyfriend once he find a hotter/better woman. Look, maybe Jeff’s just not that into you. Us outlaws like bitter, angry, sarcastic humor.
That’s the way we roll.
She give a reason Carin? Several guys in my unit had to deal with those. I always wondered what reason they would have to send those letters other than to make them selves feel better. Being over there and seeing stuff like that go on really lowered my respect for alot of women sorry. We had one guy call home and some random dude just answered the phone and then handed it to her. It was 3AM here when he called. So I saw this guys face while he was on the phone just crumple. So this guy was in a war zone sending money home to pay for her to live and she was repaying him by cheating on him. Freakin whore.
237, mudilla.
I was not the one who started, go through the thread, lazy ass .
I have 100 % right to scold those, who are pretend to use Russian, for their illiterate idiocy.
As far as an immigrant thingy, I don’t think anyone has a room to discuss it, unless they are native Americans.
My citizenship was earned according to the USA constitution, yours – by the chance of birth from not very discriminate woman, you spoon fed by Rush and Sean moron
Nishi shouldn’t, considering our military fights for nishi as much as you and your low-information world view.
Learn it, live it, love it.
She give a reason Carin? Several guys in my unit had to deal with those. I always wondered what reason they would have to send those letters other than to make them selves feel better.
She found someone else. Message to men, the QUALITY of the woman you choose matters. I never cared for her. Spoiled rich kid. And, that letter was merely the final proof that she was a bitch. He was due home just after Christmas, and her new boyfriend wanted to take her away on Holiday. She certainly could go w/o dropping the bomb on him. A woman with any character would have sucked it up at least a few months until he got home. But, that’s not the way spoiled children act.
Russia is the greatest country on the other side of earth.
Yeah that was what I was get at. Least wait till the guy gets home and do it to his face. No instead they write letters so they can act like whores guilt free. Pathetic.
Funny when you would talk to guys they say the girl wrote she found someone else. Using the word found means they are looking. Like when a brigade deploys and you see the NCO club fill up with women you never seen before. Sluts all of em.
My citizenship was earned according to the USA constitution
After you ran away from Russia pissing your pants. You see sasha? There’s no end to this. And your English still sucks. So the more you go off, the funnier it gets.
And I guess I should throw in that your mother most likely let Brezhnev tea-bag her so you could you could be smuggled out dressed as a woman.
I, for one, would like to formally protest the current thread-jacking in progress. What started out as a nice, clean conservo-blogger kerfuffle has degenerated into some sort of russo-slavic ethnic cleansing, with some confusing thread about human trafficking in russian prostitutes, and then some other utterly unrelated caffe-clutch twittering by some military soccer moms. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, per se.
And this thing about the gas and “bitches.” I’m still kind of at a loss on that one. Could we please, Please, PLEASE get back to some nice, friendly internecine uber-blogger hair-pulling and gnad kicking? Is that really too much to ask?
I see thorazine is hungover again.
What I was getting at. sorry.
like it when Neocons fight with each other
I’m a lapsed Presbytarian, not a Jew. So, Dickie, have any more anti-Semitic code words to bandy about?
Russia is a failed state. Like Mexico, only larger.
utterly unrelated caffe-clutch twittering by some military soccer mom
I’m gonna have to ask you to bite me.
Thor and sash do you realize you have both failed at life? Compeletly and utterly failed.
That’s how/when he does his best/only work.
Um, I still read both of you. Is that allowed?
Yeah, we failed, failed to run with the losers in the last election.
I’d guess your shoes are too piss-soaked to run anywhere, American fat boi.
wheeler/nishi/Kate Mengele
good lord, baby, maybe you should look at history past last Tuesday before declaring anyone and any thing a step to the right of PE BarryO! as defeated and gone forever.
An AQ female teen suicide bomber in Baghdad just celebrated BarryO!’s election, al Qaeda is already issuing demands on BarryO!, Iran is saberrattling in his general direction …
Didn’t you hear Biden, Kate?
Meanwhile, the fix is in for confiscating money from any mildly successful working person while Barry stands behind podiums affixed with the gobsmackingly arrogant “Office of the President Elect” signs with faux-presidential seal.
Jhimmi Carter II, if we are lucky.
You know, maybe he’s not hung-over yet. Now’s the time when you need to take the tylenol and drink a ton of water.
256, you are cartoon on everything what went wrong with republicans, including your idiotic conflation of the term neoconservative
Superfluous apostrophe, free of charge.
250, thor
and the second best in the world
No I am saying you are both failures at life. Men do not act like you. You are pathetic. Is this how you were raised? Would your mother be proud of you right now? I am sure your mother would be so proud of you that she would print out your comments on this blog and post them on her refridgerator. Douchebag.
Honestly, this Russian drum-banging gets tiresome. I think Russia needs the two of you RIGHT now.
Pink, do you realize , that you are irrelevant, completely….
but you have 8 years to work back on your relevancy
thor:
Keep your filthy mouth off my wife.
Last warning.
“Comment by sashal on 11/10 @ 8:21 am #
237, mudilla.
I was not the one who started, go through the thread, lazy ass .
I have 100 % right to scold those, who are pretend to use Russian, for their illiterate idiocy.”
Russia is a nation of illiterates.
Just read sashweights scrawlings.
#262 make it sound like you and sashal are holding hands right now.
But I have to say, I didn’t think you’d pull out the old, “Oh, I’m pissing my pants? Well, your shoes have pee on them.”
There is really is no defense for this gambit – save one:
NUH UH!
Comment by sashal on 11/10 @ 8:44 am #
Pink, do you realize , that you are irrelevant, completely….
but you have 8 years to work back on your relevancy
It would take a complete failure like you to derive his relevancy on which politician wins an election. A man does not look to another for his relevancy he looks in the mirror. He especially does not look to a politician he does not even know. I am beginning to think your mother did a really shitty job of raising you.
I think Russia needs the two of you RIGHT now.
Maybe they can join the
SovietRussian Navy. I hear they need submariners, again.Maybe, in the interest of healing, we should make sasha feel more at home and type in a slight Russian accent.
You sound like cartoon character on Bullwinkle.
Take your warning and shove it up your wife’s snatch, troll.
You don’t fuck with the Wongs.
Natasha! Brrink me squorl!
When stagflation and malaise return to the national dialogue about a year from now, thor’s parents upstairs will have him 5150’d.
Okay, thor. You made your choice.
And that’s all I’m going to say.
Your parents failed at their job. They raised sponging leeches who derive their value from others. They have no pride in their own accomplishments because they have none, they can only sponge off the success or failure of others in order to feel needed or worthwhile for a short time.
Nishi’s plea: From the serial Eugenicist who thought that Trig Palin would represent a “bad photo opportunity” for the campaign. An elitist snob squawking about Bell curves and IQ’s for the top 10% who can’t spell and who’s idea of a coherent argument is to repeat the same talking poitns over and over and over and…
If there is a more concrete example that [premier educations and IQ points do not necessarily translate into common sense political leadership then, at the very least, kate can take her place with Chris Buckley, Turner, Noonan, Will and Brooks as the effete nose sniffing blue bloods who think that style is as important as substance.
Somewhere Ronald Reagan weeps for the condition of his party and for the blue blood merciless morphing of conservatism and Classical Liberalism.
Nah, you’re just an inflatable dick.
America is great country where I earn citizenship according to Constitution and love of America. Also natural born American’s mothers are whores. I love and hate America at same time. It is Russian way.
“After the events of the 20th century–national socialism, international socialism, inter-species socialism from Earth First–anyone who is still on the left is obviously insane and not responsible for his or her actions.”
P. J. O’Rourke
http://tinyurl.com/6s8urg
Absolutely brilliant piece.
SarahW is a class act. Me I think if you wanted to protect the little fetuses then it’s pretty clear thems what wanted that were doing it wrong. Game over, little fetuses. There’s a new sheriff in town.
That crowd would react to Kate as though you’d just served them a shit filet with plague sauce. But then, she gets that a lot.
And let’s not forget Putin’s little “Welcome aboard”.
As long as we’re clear that while kate makes her vacuous little pleas for Jeff to kowtow to her merciless, life hating doctrine that she doesn’t gave a crap about anyone not in her “tribe” and that genetically damaged babies really shouldn’t be born (although one has the right to choose) because they mess up the Bell Curve and dilute the gene pool.
In other words a post modern semi geek little Nazi.
Oh, so “pomocon” is really just a way to say Nazi.
assion Sarah Palin showed during campaign speeches that promised saddling the U.S. taxpayer with cradle to grave financial responsibility for special needs children.
Yes, i’m sure most taxpayers would much prefer providing cradle-to-grave financial responsibility for those who simply prefer not to work, than those with a disability. Keep talking, thor, it’s so revealing.
And this thing about the gas and “bitches.†I’m still kind of at a loss on that one. Could we please, Please, PLEASE get back to some nice, friendly internecine uber-blogger hair-pulling and gnad kicking? Is that really too much to ask?
Hi new guy! The best advice I can give you is, deal with it as best you can. Unfortunately there is no Wiki type resource here. Not that there ever could be, a state of flux being what it is. You will likely find multiple narrative arcs within any given thread, and a lot of recurrent themes, memes, and the assorted paradigm shift. There are regulars, irregulars, guest posters, former guest posters, trolls, former trolls, and some truly unsavory types to be found here.
Goldstein used to hint at selling decoder rings, but never came through on the promise.
Comment by thor on 11/10 @ 9:32 am #
And thor is a classless, clueless intellectual and moral pygmy, which he proves every time he shows up and shits on Jeff’s rug.
Oh, and Obamatons, I don’t want any free gas. I want free diesel fuel.
Hell, I’ll settle for some free love.
I KEEED!
So, you’re back to declare “I’m still a moron, no worries” eh, dave? It’s good to know some things never change in a generally fast changing world.
I’m thinking dataless and nishfong cut the same English grammar class.
How desperate for human attention do you have to be to try to force your way around people ignoring you?
I’m the steam to your stain.
Pretty damned desperate, I guess.
Or, per you chosen descriptor, how desperate do you have to be to cover your eyes, ears and mouth like them three monkeys? To throw punches in the air at phantoms inspired by mob phantasia?
The truth is the government will have to exert control over the banks to force their intended investments to work for the people. The banks are afloat on the people’s money, after all.
First thing the gov’t should do is set a national cap in credit card interest rates and force the banks to write off all the bad consumer debt and forgo the legal warfare against the same citizens who they are indebted to. The miscalculating bastards owe us, and not the other way around.
Yep. Pretty damned desperate.
Seriously, thor, head to a strip club. Tip them enough and they’ll ignore your hygiene.
“Comment by datadave on 11/10 @ 10:45 am #
Hmmm, gave you some ideas to think about and all you come up with is insults.”
dave, you wouldn’t recognize an idea if it came up and bit you on your shriveled little scrotum.
I see thor got his dumb ass banned again.
Thief.
Insults dave? It is demonstrative, is it not, that you can’t distinguish a normative description from an insult? But that is what you do so reassuringly, after all. Carry on. Maybe think about carrying on somewhere else though, as I’m sure you are aware that the site host doesn’t want you here and has stated as much many times. So to the descriptor moron, we might begin justly adding, trespasser. Thus we’ll have you, dave the moronic trespasser. How’s that?
Tear Down That Wall!
Then what are you going to bang your thick head against?
Even when dataless dave ignores it. Welcome to thor’s Wide World of Wisdom, dataless.
Are cries of “go away, it’s our treehouse!” all you can come up with?
Something inspirational about a particular someone driven to madness. That grimey someone feels himself quite above everyone else, for it fills the void of lack of control in his empty incomplete life. He really gets emotional on what isn’t even his territory. He’s the waxy buttcheese, the stray pube, the greasy weasel dropping, the tucked tail attached to a stinking rump, the contorted face of the snaggle-toothed hayseed.
I’ve always P.J. O’Rourke, JHo, I’ll read it when I get a free minute.
enjoyed
You know, I’ve been giving you a break, sashal, for pretending to use English. No more.
“I’ve always P.J. O’Rourke, JHo, I’ll read it when I get a free minute.”
Don’t bother, thor, you wouldn’t be able to understand it.
Better you stick to reading Car and Driver and Sherlock Holmes.
Well thor, realizing your problem is the first step to solving it. Congratulations!
Amazing how many Obamatons are bigots.
Much of it is what I’ve been saying, sans the evil-Socialist hyperbole.
Don’t have kids, thorputz. Aside from the benefits accruing in dependent tax savings and a cleaner gene pool, much of what you’ve been saying, if discovered one day on these pages, would inflict upon any passing thorputz progeny an irrecoverable depression. Yeah, seriously.
So imagine, dreamer: You can kiss my ass for the children.
Hey, c’mon guys! I think Obama Day is a fine idea. It should be celebrated on April 1st..
Jeff, a good example? Heheh. I think he’s a great example, but then I’m not conservative, too much of an iconoclast.
Why is it that when somebody says ‘Obama Day’ I picture ‘Monkey Bone’?
I denounce myself in the harshest possible way.
And again on April 15th.