Jessica Gavora, writing in the Weekly Standard (and echoing many of the arguments I outlined in an earlier post today), is the latest woman to take on establishment feminism and the case of Gov. Sarah Palin. From “Game Changer”:
For all their talk of the sameness of the sexes, what feminists want for female athletes today is preferences, quotas mandated by the federal government and handed out by schools. But what Sarah Palin has achieved no one has given her; she has manifestly earned it.
It’s difficult to overstate how entrenched — and how male — was the political culture that Palin upended in Alaska. The state’s governing Republican troika of Senator Ted Stevens, Congressman Don Young, and Governor Frank Murkowski (known simply as Ted, Don, and Frank) together had more than a century on the public payroll — in a state less than 50 years old — when Palin challenged Murkowski in the Republican primary in 2006. For decades, they had relied on the not-unpersuasive argument that failing to return them to Washington would be fatal to a small state like Alaska with only three snouts in the federal trough.
But it turns out that playing basketball taught Sarah Palin the importance of a quality more valuable than seniority: competitiveness. Instead of shrinking before the political machine that was responsible for delivering billions of federal dollars to the residents whose votes she sought, Palin challenged it head on. Not content with exposing her own Republican party chairman for ethics violations, she defeated a sitting governor of her own party and called the FBI investigation of Stevens and others for official corruption an “embarrassment” to Alaska.
“Competition defines and refines a person,” she wrote in 2004. “Character is revealed. It’s really nothing to be afraid of.”
But liberal feminists are, in fact, afraid of Sarah Palin. For the first time, they face real competition in their claim to speak for women. For decades, feminist groups have insisted they are the voice of American women, when in fact they are the voice of a narrow, liberal fringe. It’s an argument that has convinced the media and has cowed politicians of both parties. And it’s an argument that Sarah Palin is busy blowing clean out of the water.
In The War Against Boys, Christina Hoff Sommers describes in great detail the lengths to which establishment feminist models for pedagogy, which have been adopted often uncritically by today’s politically correct schools, go toward creating an environment wherein competition has been eradicated in place of a happy homogeneity that, it so happens, has hurt boys both academically and socially.
For her troubles, Hoff Sommers, though by ideology a traditional feminist (what she calls an equity or legal feminist), has been labeled anti-women or anti-feminist by the very types who are using public institutions as petri dishes in their attempt to socially engineer the better male — that male being, of course, stripped of any last vestige of his biological patriarchalist hangover.
And it is this maneuver — to remove the kind of competition under which humans (and markets) have thrived and advanced — that Palin rejects. And having a strong woman reject a basic tenet of contemporary establishment feminism and sociology — not just by word but by example — will just not do.
Writes Hoff Sommers:
The idea that schools and society grind girls down has given rise to an array of laws and policies intended to curtail the advantage boys have and to redress the harm done to girls. That girls are treated as the second sex in school and consequently suffer, that boys are accorded privileges and consequently benefitâ€â€these are things everyone is presumed to know. But they are not true.
The research commonly cited to support claims of male privilege and male sinfulness is riddled with errors. Almost none of it has been published in peer-reviewed professional journals. Some of the data turn out to be mysteriously missing. A review of the facts shows boys, not girls, on the weak side of an education gender gap. The typical boy is a year and a half behind the typical girl in reading and writing; he is less committed to school and less likely to go to college. In 1997 college full-time enrollments were 45 percent male and 55 percent female. The Department of Education predicts that the proportion of boys in college classes will continue to shrink.
[…] Every society confronts the problem of civilizing its young males. The traditional approach is through character education: Develop the young man’s sense of honor. Help him become a considerate, conscientious human being. Turn him into a gentleman. This approach respects boys’ masculine nature; it is time-tested, and it works. Even today, despite several decades of moral confusion, most young men understand the term “gentleman”and approve of the ideals it connotes.
What [prominent establishment feminist, Carol] Gilligan and her followers are proposing is quite different: civilize boys by diminishing their masculinity. “Raise boys like we raise girls” is Gloria Steinem’s advice. This approach is deeply disrespectful of boys. It is meddlesome, abusive, and quite beyond what educators in a free society are mandated to do.
Did anything of value come out of the manufactured crisis of diminished girls? Yes, a bit. Parents, teachers, and administrators now pay more attention to girls’ deficits in math and science, and they offer more support for girls’ participation in sports. But who is to say that these benefits outweigh the disservice done by promulgating the myth of the incredible shrinking girl or presenting boys as the unfairly favored sex?
A boy today, through no fault of his own, finds himself implicated in the social crime of shortchanging girls. Yet the allegedly silenced and neglected girl sitting next to him is likely to be the superior student. She is probably more articulate, more mature, more engaged, and more well-balanced. The boy may be aware that she is more likely to go on to college. He may believe that teachers prefer to be around girls and pay more attention to them. At the same time, he is uncomfortably aware that he is considered to be a member of the favored and dominant gender.
The widening gender gap in academic achievement is real. It threatens the future of millions of American boys. Boys do not need to be rescued from their masculinity. But they are not getting the help they need. In the climate of disapproval in which boys now exist, programs designed to aid them have a very low priority. This must change. We should repudiate the partisanship that currently clouds the issues surrounding sex differences in the schools. We should call for balance, objective information, fair treatment, and a concerted national effort to get boys back on track. That means we can no longer allow the partisans of girls to write the rules.
Sarah Palin grew up in a time before current feminist orthodoxies began dominating school curricula. Her accomplishments are the result of a character forged by competition and toughened by equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.
Many on the left have decried her selection by the McCain campaign as cynical politics — a transparent attempt to play identity politics. But what they are really complaining about is that the GOP has managed to play identity politics without being cynical at all: by dint of their selection, they have exposed the pitfalls of identity politics as conceived of by progressives.
For Sarah Palin’s part, her being a woman — and an equal — is the de facto state of affairs.
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What are her accomplishments again? Besides birthing and doting and the hicktown mayor gig.
…And the chief executive of the state that provides some 20% of the US’s domestic energy capacity.
And the marathon-running.
And the moose/caribou hunting.
And the corruption-fighting.
Jeepers, does anyone else feel like thor is the one feeling a bit emasculated and diminished by someone else’s accomplishments? Seems he’s internalized O!’s own shortcomings and is taking all this, well, personally.
And, granted, I did indeed feed the t
rollhor, but, well, unaddressed FRIST PSOTs are just so galling, you know?I’m running into my own issues trying to raise 2 little boys now. My oldest (girl) presented none of these problems. She was always so well-behaved, so helpful, so eager to learn…
My 3 year old son asks me if he can “play with my boobies” and tries to win arguments by threatening to pee on people.
WTH? Is this normal? I feel like I’m raising a future prison warden sometimes. I swing between thinking “he’s just a boy” to freaking out and thinking I’ve got to wring this stuff out of him.
Gavora? Aint that Jonah Goldburg’s babymama? Why dat ho not take her babydaddy name? She some kinda feminist or sumpn?
#4 PC
I was blessed to raise two daughters and they’ve been relatively easy on me. My sister has a 11 y/o son and for the last 10 years she has called me periodically wondering what the hell she was doing wrong. I’m convinced that this kid will either be the CEO of a fortune 500 company or a lifer in one those state communal housing things. The jury’s still out at this point.
PC – you have my empathy. I am trying to learn how to be a father to girls. I am utterly unfamiliar with how catty young girls can be, the concept of cheerleading, and the importance of hair and nails.
JD:
This concept of “feelings” from a 1 year old is also foreign to me. Seemed as though my son pretty much lacked feelings to be hurt at that age, but my daughter is rather easily offended.
Raising kids is hard, eh wot?
PC, that’s probably fairly normal behavior, in that those are the kinds of things a boy might think about saying, or maybe even doing, but he still needs to understand that it’s inappropriate. Having no children, and being the youngest in my family, I cannot say how one manages to apply the correction.
State Championship point guard. For a public school that doesn’t give scholarships, thor.
PC, my younger brother spent the better part of his childhood peeing on my friends (either directly, or by peeing in a squirt gun and attacking them with that); locking my mother out of the house in the dead of winter; setting various alarm clocks in the house at ludicrous o’clock in the morning on weekends; concocting “potions” containing such items as Comet and serving them to my father (lots of calls to poison control); playing mailbox baseball (when of driving age); taking the car out for a spin (years before he reached legal driving age); and generally wreaking havoc and giving my mother a nervous breakdown.
Today, he teaches autistic children and adults (and is very good at it), is married, owns a couple homes, and has a young son who is, by all accounts, far better behaved than he ever was.
So….take heart. It’s probably just a phase. In about 25 years or so, you might actually be proud of the little devil.
thor,
her lack of connection to DC, her ideals and her willingness to discuss and take arrows because of them is what most of us here like about Palin.
Im ecstatic that she doesnt have a long CV with 4 terms in DC; she’d be twice as useless as Biden at that point.
“What are her accomplishments again? Besides birthing and doting and the hicktown mayor gig.”
She also became Gov of Alaska. BTW, Thor, have you managed to do any of those things? And, before you ask, the sea monkey’s you ruled over in your basement apartment don’t count because they didn’t freely elect you.
Is Alaska even a state? I thought is was just a kind of game reserve for drunk Indians what likes the cold.
and polar bears.
And, Thor, while Palin was busy defeating and calling out corrupt members of her own party, Obama was playing Stepin Fetchit for a dirty machine run by Bill Daley and Emil Jones.
thor is your younger brother?
When I was substitute teaching I was told that if a lesson plan wasn’t available I should just ask the girl with the highest grade in the class what they had been covering.
The girls were more likely than not to be more mature, focused, and aware of what was going on than the boys.
A most curious scrubbing of Kos diaries involving Palin is currently underway according to Ace. Also: Newer, positive/neutral editorials in the MSM.
Hmm. Somebody hit the dogwhistle….
So this “peeing on people” is a boy thing, then? Because I know my daughter would never have DREAMED of taking a piss on someone – although, if you think about it, girls simply can’t do that. So maybe that’s why it’s only the boys who come up with this idea. They have the equipment necessary to hit someone else (and not themselves) and maybe even load a squirt gun. *shudder* Disgusting creatures, yo.
As to the cattiness of girls – that’s the trade. They make up for their lack of physical aggression with mind-bending emotional torture. Pick your poison I guess.
I just don’t know how to impress upon these boys that asking women if they can fondle them is WRONG. I say it over and over, and I get angry, and I even spank if necessary…and yet, these punks are just DIRTY.
My 20 month-old son gives me a titty twister if I make him mad! Where did he learn that?? I know nobody in our family ever showed him how to do that – I swear, some of this shit is instinct. *Please God don’t let them end up in the pen*
Face it, PC, your sons are the spawn of satan. Take them to a priest and have the demons driven from their bodies.
>>So this “peeing on people†is a boy thing, then?
Its actually the basis of all politics, PC.
I’m with cranky-d, a good exorcism helps build character.
I wonder if priests perform more exorcisms on boys than girls. Statistically, I mean. ;)
Its actually the basis of all politics, PC.
Didn’t LBJ say of J. Edgar Hoover that he’d, “Rather have him inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in?”
PC, the boob grabbing and pissing will pass.
they will, however, replace them with farting. By the time they’re 18, they should have some sense of when it is–and is not–socially sanctioned to let one rip.
/has 4 kids (2 and 2)
PC – Girls eventually become teenagers, which likely has a smoothing effect on the average.
All the boy stuff just shows that boys are closer to nature than girls. The peeing is territorial marking and the titty twisting is part of finding their place in the tribal hierarchy.
Just treat them as any other primate treats their young. Rub their noses in the pee and smack them down when they get too rough.
Course, it may be you that ends up in the pen, but what the hell.
PC, don’t take this personal, but do those boys have a father around? From the sounds of it, Dad needs to take them in hand in the worst way. Granted, I grew up back in the Baby Boomer days, two parents in most homes, etc, but I don’t remember anyone behaving like that when I was a little kid. For one thing, we’d have gotten our little butts busted by our fathers if we had.
On the other hand, the society, our culture, has changed quite a bit since then, and not all for the better, IMNSHO. There are a lot of things in the media and elsewhere that kids can pick up on that, as a parent, you might not even notice, but that might skew their behavior like this. And the reason why neither I nor my peers back in the early 1960s ever picked up these sorts of influences is simply because they did not exist back then.
Jeff, I was aware, in a general sense, of what you have written about today, vis a vis the feminists and what they are trying to do to the boys. I can only hope that you will protect your son from their influences. Never forget that he hangs on your every word or deed, for good or ill, and the influence and guidance you give him now will in large measure determine what kind of a man he will become.
PC – it is just a young version of writing your name in the snow.
mcgruder – do boys ever outgrow farting? Simple pleasures, like dropping a dutch oven on Better Half when I am allowed in our bed ..
Oh yes, PC; Cave Bear’s post reminds me of the important part of the story. We never had a wooden spoon with a full-length handle in our house. The reason was that my mother would — after she crawled back in through the coal chute after getting locked outside, or induced my father to barf up the Comet potion, or bathed me and my friends of my brother’s pee, etc. — whack my brother with a wooden spoon across his backside. Our wooden spoons got so much of this sort of use that their handles routinely broke. It is a bitch to stir spaghetti sauce with such short-handled wooden spoons, let me tell you. (On the other hand, Dad didn’t believe in spanking. He just gave us the crushing “I’m very disappointed in you” line — which worked wonders on me. My brother, not so much, at least not until he hit his early 20s.)
My point is: for the most part, I think, boys are just different. If my brother and I are any indication, you can talk sense to and reason with a girl. A boy may just need to be walloped, within reason, until the message sinks in.
Full disclosure: I have a two-year old girl who is just now learning how to throw an effective tantrum and am gestating a boy as I type. So I may have no idea what I’m talking about.
So this “peeing on people†is a boy thing, then?
Nope. Friend of mine’s daughter was able to hit a target (just happened to be her brother) at 2 feet at the age of 4. And yes, it was with malice aforethought.
The villagers still speak of it with a hush in their voices.
“…the very types who are using public institutions as petri dishes in their attempt to socially engineer the better male  that male being, of course, stripped of any last vestige of his biological patriarchalist hangover.”
I thought that had been tried.
The New Aryan Man.
The New Communist Man.
How well did they turn out?
Oh yes, their father is here. The titty twisting is a new thing just recently discovered. We’re slapping hands, and I use a plastic spatula instead of the wooden spoons. My mom used the wooden spoons and they always broke. I thought the spatula would last longer – but whaddya know? They are good for one ass whooping and that’s about it. huh. (I don’t spank my 20-month old yet but my husband is itching -itching!- to get his hands on him soon. LOL)
Re: the teenage girls : yes I’m afraid that as soon as I get these boys beaten into submission my daughter is going to morph into one of those scary girls I remember from high school.
I’m hoping mcgruder is right!
Here is some further reading on the same issue.
No problem, just denounce yourself next time.
Puck – Congrats!
PC – My 5 month old GIRL sprays Better Half almost every time she changes her diaper. Apparently it is inappropriate to laugh. Whouda thunk it?
Man, JD, five months ALREADY? Time flies.
This alliterative Baracky spokesman person I think is full of shit with his emails to newspapers. I could care less if Baracky is a super secret America-hating Muslim. Freedom of religion and all that, but Baracky’s people are all about astroturfing the blogosphere with crap they want to break into newspapers. This is a very George Soros m.o. It’s how Soros and his friends at Pew got that campaign finance crap passed.
thor –
You are exposing yourself, nitwit…
I guess a woman who is truly self determining and thinks for herself is making you feel like your cock has been amputated.
Stick with your whiney “feminists”, who can’t hold a candle to a real human being who lives her life as she see’s fit, and doesn’t whine when little pussies like you are frightened by the real spirit of America.
The best thing about whiney women for you, thor, is that you know they are constitutionally weak, and that gives you a “boner up to here! Just commiserate with them, and you will be able to put your massively intellectual dick inside of them. “Oh yeah! (moan) I feel your existential pain! (moan). Is my ideology pure enough now? Can I do you now?”
TA-DA! That’s how it works when strong women (as opposed to spoiled whiners)scare the living shit out of you.
That’s it for me. You are not really worth responding to, so I won’t be in the future, no matter how inviting a target you make of yourself.
But please don’t go away. You are always good for a few laughs!
You stupid bass-ackwards dipshit….
Happy – Did I ever mention how much I enjoy your comments?
Carin – 5 months tomorrow. Slept through the night 7 nights in a row!!!
TLD – Don’t be afraid to say what you think.
JD, thank you, and congrats to you on your little girl’s sleeping through the night. I hate to tell you, though: once the teeth start coming in, sleepus interruptus may rear its ugly head again. But some kids aren’t as bad as others; maybe you’ll be one of the lucky ones.
#33 N. O’Brain:
Shhh, you’ll wake matoko…
Creepers, feel that cloven-hoofed troll thunder! Woo! Dougey, do you ever feel dumber than a moose-sized enema bag?
Now I’m going to hold your head back and pour a little cognac into your nostrils. Marathon running? Moose hunting? Infantile projections of a cartoonish corruption fighting super hero? What else Dougey, does she swim with dolphins? And you like happy watery dolphins, a lot, I bet, don’t’cha, idiot. And Baby Dinosaurs! Daffodils! Birdies!
Unless that skunk-fucking three-hole hussy vomits gold coins, who cares. I’d just as soon shit on her elastic belly than teach her what her money hole is for. She’s done nothing that impresses me, nor anyone else not taken by imaginary political crusades. She’s not even as bright as post-abortion blood stains on the sheets.
I’m told I have a scary “don’t cross me” look. It seems to work pretty well.
I think self restraint runs in the blood though.
Also fear of death from the death look.
Thanks, JD. I’m glad you’re here more lately. Now I just have to figure out how to get MayBee to come visit. This is what I think needs to be linked in every conversation about Governor Palin though. It’s a very much please read the whole thing though cause you won’t hear this sort of argument on the NPR. I can’t think of a nice way to say all this identity politics stuff is really obscuring the real deal stuff, especially on the right. Palin will have to be linked to some sort of policy focus for her to really signify anything I think, and the most obvious and natural one would be energy. This is all kind of disjointed how I’m saying it cause I had a big lunch. But read that link thing even if no I don’t know who this Kyle-Anne Shiver person is either and that’s kind of a goofy name I think.
I’m not as confident cause people are mostly talking about Palin babies.
Ok pretend I had fashioned all this into a persuasive but gentle sort of polemic thing and I also added that coastal drilling would be a huge and hugely consequential addition to Mr. Bush’s legacy and I think that matters because of all the lies the Democrats and Baracky’s media tell.
Happy – last I heard, Maybee was doing well, and still quite hot ;-)
That Baracky sure is a mendoucheous one, no? Just askin’
Good. She’s in my thoughts is all because I promised her I wouldn’t be so vituperative about McCain and I’ve done really good and she hasn’t even been here to notice. I’m still bound by my promise and all but I feel like I got the short end of the stick on this deal.
Look, if thor won’t read, don’t give him the Cliff’s Notes.
Palin will have to be linked to some sort of policy focus for her to really signify anything I think
I think that was kind of persuasive. Baracky won’t have drilling because then we wouldn’t need greenies squads to put delimitors on our thermostats.
When I see Maybee’s posts around other places, I get a pang.
Great post, Jeff. Even more so when the first comment proves it.
Nice link, happy, but it kind of amuses me how so many people are trying to identify that one big reason McCain picked Palin don’t notice how many different reasons have been suggested. It is a perfect example of not being able to see the forest for the trees.
don’t notice how many different reasons have been suggested.
Yes, she’s a dream candidate on many different levels.
The only thing I can figure is that Johnny Mac must’ve done something awfully good in a previous life.
It kind of reminds me of when the Leftists used to whine about there being too many reasons for the war.
<whine>You keep changing your reasons!</whine>
Pangs? Pregnant pangs?
Sarah Palin hasn’t achieved anything, or, shall I say, anything much when she wasn’t appointed for reasons other than the rarefied air in her head and the hugeness of the sagging tits on her chest. She’s the perfect symbol of the docile boob-headed allegorical vagina. I earned a athletic scholarship to a real Div-1 university, did she? No she didn’t. She shook her bulbous tits in a revealing swimsuit, lost a beauty pageant and then majored in journalism (which is the scorned-whore’s preferred choice of study and profession, or so imply the media haters here). She said she chose journalism because she liked to write. I don’t see any proof of that, quite the contrary, <A HREF=”site“>actually. Palin reminds me of the boob-flashing ditzes who majored in marine biology so they could train the dolphins at Sea World, only to quit, just like Palin quit her first media gig, when they found out kissing noxious mackerel-breathed dolphins sucks, no matter the applause of children.
Sarah Palin is a vagina-warrior-floater whose knockers are her only worthy asset. A Title IX supporter, no doubt, even though her daughter won’t get a chance at being a field hockey débutante for she’ll be sitting just beyond the chalk lines nursing current and future Levi spawn, like a good Christian milkmaid should. It’s not like Sarah Palin’s son (had) or young redneck Levi stand much of a chance at getting a full-scholarship in athletics after the Title IX equality-cunts and there enabling BillyBob ADs cut all the men’s sports. Hockey ain’t football nor basketball. The equality-cunts made ’em ADs offer just as many female scholarships as men’s scholarships and the Billy Bob’s responded by taking away all the scholarships away from second tier men’s sports instead of the two male biggies. You can be a highschool female golfer who drops more tampons than putts and you’ll have a chance at earning a full ride versus a world-class male swimmer or wrestler.
And what of the snapper licking women’s coaches at the Div-1 level? They fired one at LSU, a first! Here’s your dirty little secret – female coaches are notorious sexual predators, jamming fingers and tongues up and into all kinds of small-town girl twat, Palinish twat! If a male coach so much as asked a coed out on a date they’d have to call for an investigation – Undue Influence! Power! Unfair Use of Penile Magnetism!
I had the goods. Names and numbers. Story after indecent hymen-busting story. Not one sports editor, years ago, wanted to lift the State U’s logo-emblazoned blanket off Coach Muncher’s proclivities, advances and sexual liberties. Not one Male or Female editor would touch the hot crotch of reality. How about cute lesbians with turned up noses becoming the female basketball team’s trainer, even earning a partial scholarship for massaging the sore muscles of Coach Muncher while on the road to the final four.
These women’s issues are so dark, complicated and sticky.
Sarah Palin can suck these whispered realities from my _____.
Effed link – http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html
Go Hilary!
Noisy in here all of a sudden, isn’t it?
Sure Jeff, save for Sarah Palin being a corrupted morality bigot with the IQ of a sea snake.
Hillary, JHo, is you.
Hey, have you folks seen Mr. Holland’s Opus? What a great film that is.
Thor – do you ever tire of having a mouthful of Baracky? Just couldn’t wait for Vick any longer …
And what of the snapper licking women’s coaches at the Div-1 level? They fired one at LSU, a first! Here’s your dirty little secret – female coaches are notorious sexual predators, jamming fingers and tongues up and into all kinds of small-town girl twat, Palinish twat! If a male coach so much as asked a coed out on a date they’d have to call for an investigation – Undue Influence! Power! Unfair Use of Penile Magnetism!
He ain’t just a pissed off drunken French poet wannabe, he also longs to be a dirty old bull dyke domanatrix of the girls locker room.
You about fucked up as a soup sandwich, thor my boy.
thor’s terror approaches.
The stink of bitter, dead-end loser is all over this thor boy. God help him on November 4.
And who could blame him: thor lives in a country where Americans do!
I wonder why he hates women so much?
Palin shakin’ her cans, like an equal! Majoring in journalism, like an equal! Flunking words and classes, like an equal! Threatening librarians, like an equal! Lying about being a ear-mark whore, like an equal! Lying about being an equal, like an equal!
She’s been outside this country one time. Oh, she’s an equal alright. A George W. Bush equal. A U.S. dollar and Fannie Mae crushing and collapsing equal! Just as the dumb as the other guy! Christianity as social and moral essence equal! Morally bankrupt and spiritually powerless equal! A self-avowed Noble through worship! Elucidation of existence comes from belief in the rigidity of Jesus’s shaft! Accept Jesus, burn French literature, and these truths will become self-evident! They’re having big’un moose-gun sex in that Palin household! They’re breeding as if it’s a Kantian imperative! Existentialist hick-fucking and its beautiful theistic anguish. Wooot!
Marathons, fuck yeah! Moose hunting, fuck yeah! Sexing, fuck yeah! Babies, fuck yeah! Ebay, fuck yeah!
As I said: Noisy in here, isn’t it?
I didn’t hear anything?
But maybe all that rock music killed my ears?
“Everything you read, swallowed, sucked, admired, proclaimed, refuted, defended, was made up of hate-ridden myths and grinning masquerades, phony to the hilt.” Celine
Only leftist truths are self-evident. Splains why they’re not published.
So what’s real, thor? Let it all out, man. You’re among friends.
Despondency.
“…although, if you think about it, girls simply can’t do that.”
– You must belong to a different species than I do, because I’ll tell you, when I was young I knew some girls that could drown a cricket at 10 paces.
Suddenly all those Got Hope? bumperstickers are like soooooo funny to me
She’s been outside this country one time.
Haven’t you heard, she is from Alaska, which is from outside this country, apparently. She had to get a passport to come down here to campaign, what I heard.
Is English even her native tongue?
“Everything you read, swallowed, sucked, admired, proclaimed, refuted, defended, was made up of hate-ridden myths and grinning masquerades, phony to the hilt.†Celine
What the fuck does that scrawny, Canadian bitch know about anything.
“Only leftist truths are self-evident. Splains why they’re not published.”
– They’re not published thor, because the country already has enough toilet paper.
Someone give thor a dollar before he tries to squeegee our windshields.
Hey, maybe she can deliver a speech in Tlingit?
They just
nappy headedleftist scaring hos, what I heard.That the only thing holding back the flow of shit from your viscera is your rotting teeth. Your few phrases are patriotic, at least, which is always fashionable with the ladies. You getting any?
She dresses her ample labia in native tongue, as they say.
“You getting any?”
– If you want to know what its like thor, the porn sites are down the net, second door on your left.
Rather anti-climatic thor. You will never make it big if you can’t do cum shots.
Hmmmmm … one wonders whether thor’s momma made the right choice … and that’s assuming he had a momma.
Words to live by.
The last of the big time penetrators is off to drink unctuous pints of ales and lagers.
We’ll resume the trial and execution of Socrates on another night.
Step away from the Mad Dog 20/20, thor.
– Wait – wait….Colmes just hit pay dirt.
– Did you know that as “community orgizer” that Obama actually helped dozrns of people register to vote.
– Well hell thor-boi, that caps it for me.
– Community organizer for President, Fuck yeh!!!
Resistance is futile, thor. Know thyself. At least once.
Methinks thor has known hisself many, many times.
Pablo is fatal to reason. He would have voted Socrates guilty of impiety and corrupting the young.
When in the throes of passion try and not get thrown off, words to remember.
– thor, you’re CandyMan and his handlers have taken the bait. Hes committing political suicide by running against the other guys #2. Every time he attacks her he amplifies his own lack of experience, lowers his stature by competing at the 2nd level, and pisses off a whole lot of woman.
– Jess keep gnawing that Palin stick of female dynamite Lefties. Uh huh.
You’re talking to yourself now, thor. It’s a start. How is your relationship with your mother? How does that make you feel?
Go make a stone case for art, JHo. Your cause and effect hasn’t yet.
Because expecting that someone with a burning desire to argue should actually make a fucking point somewhere along the line? That’s just nuts.
If I had to guess, I’d say closer than it ought to be.
Oh, now 102 and 103 just go together.
What’s real, thor?
– That guy from Texas that chomps on the cigar and wears a ten gallon hat was on FOX today. Hes a Dem and hes awed by Palin.
– Called her “Reagan in a skirt”.
– thor is not a happy camper.
Having disassembled thor countless times, cooly and rationally, Pablo is fatal to reason. Likewise, I fail cause and effect when thor can’t say why he “thinks” how he purportedly does.
Yeah, more about mom, thor. Please. It’s for the best.
I don’t know
but I’ve been told
Eskeeemo pussy
is mighty cold…
shampoo, rinse, repeat.
– You know, if the CandyMan keeps sliding down hill, we might have to put thor on a suicide watch.
He’s already failed the knowledge watch.
You seem to bloviate with the same ease as you defecate. Charming are the sounds of your plopping little bricks.
Reagan was an ape with a double chin.
Meltdown in Post13230…And people try to have a dialogue with that? Yikes. The train has definitely left the station. It’s a pity, too. At what point it had worth.
Or even at ONE point.
Projection
I just can’t take your projection
All I want to do-ooh-ooh-ooh
is to be rid of you.
What scares you, thor?
That’s easy JHoward. Strong women scare thor. And O!
thor … trust me on this … NO.BODY.CARES!
– Heston thor, Heston was the guy that tangled with the apes, not Reagan. Heston.
– Baby steps. Maybe after you can tell them apart you could get that chaos that your political beliefs are in straightened out.
– Use some of that hopey stuff thor-boi. You can do it.
Hey, c’mon. Thanks to Gloria Steinem and Bill Clinton we get “one free grope” now and we don’t have to ask first.
Absolutely. On the minus side, it pays to remember that McCain is still the senior sponsor of McCain-Feingold, and still the guy who got an F- on 2nd Amendment issues from Gun Owners of America. So far as I know he hasn’t staged any attacks on the 3rd Amendment, but I may be wrong.
I’m for sure not voting for Teh Obamessiah and I’m lovin’ me that Palin woman, but I’d feel a lot better about voting for McCain/Palin if he’d promise to drop dead a month or so after taking office.
– Yeh, The other day someone asked if I wasn’t concerned about her taking the office if McOldDude dropped dead. (a progressive naturally, but then you already knew that.)
– I looked at her and laughed.
– I said…”Worried about it, I’m counting on it!”
Who is so desperate for friends that they will count that thing as one?
(I denounce myself for indirect troll-feeding. Dammit.)
Okay, I denounce myself for that. It’s racist and sexist and just downright naughty.
Because expecting that someone with a burning desire to argue should actually make a fucking point somewhere along the line?
He ain’t trying to argue, Pablo, he is trying to do art. That nobody can tell the difference is why he keeps getting so fucking pissed.
Hmm.. We’re stumbling all over each other denouncing ourselves. Can we get back to denouncing each other now?
JD and Puck,
I was blessed with a little boy who, from the day we brought him home from the hospital, slept through the night every night!. To this day, you could run a freight train through his room, and he won’t wake up. The only problem is getting him into the bed.
If there is such a thing as an old soul, my son is the oldest one I’ve ever encountered. He doesn’t have a mean bone in his body, and is one of the funniest kids I have ever known.
What I worry about is when the testosterone starts flowing, because his mom is pretty nuts, and I know he has a lot of anger. And that’s the trick, I think, to raising a child. A child who reaches puberty without any deep seated anger is going to come through with flying colors.
Believe me. I know. I was an absolute thug for about seven years in my adolescence because I was so angry. I spend every moment I can with my son, and at almost nine years old, he still will grab my hand, or come and sit on my lap, but mostly, I know he loves to be with me. What a stark difference from the way I grew up.
I live like a street urchin because I want to be around my son, and my AXW is totally incapable of financially taking care of even her phone bill. And where I live, just taking care of one house is almost impossible. She takes great care of my son as far as physical needs (as long as I come up with the scratch), but I do not want him to become like her. She has a lot of problems, to put it mildly. So my only defense is to love my son to death, and spend every moment I can with him.
Oh. By the way, PG. My son loves to grab my “man-tits” and moan. And I’m not quite sure what to do about it, either. So I just assume it is a phase, and discourage him as much as I can. But at the same time, it amazes me how much he knows about sex. He doesn’t understand it, but he knows more than I did when I was twelve.
Anyway, thanks everybody for an opportunity to share the perils of being a parent. If your children are over the age of four, the are arrows that have already left the bow. All we as parents have left is body English. So I just cross my fingers and pretend this a game of pool, and I keep twisting my body like a contortionist.
What a trip this life is!
But “Luke the Fluke” (spoken with the utmost love) is what my life is about now. And that’s fine with me.
OOPS!
Sorry, PC. Paragraph 7 says “PG”, and I assume that you are not. Only because you are here at PW…
Good grief! I’d denounce myself again for posting a link to this, but these guys gotta be gay so I s’pose that makes it okay. It’s also funny in a WTF? kinda way and they’re supposedly a “top band” in Ireland. Go figure..
Hey! Just tryin’ to bring a little culture to ya..
Pablo,
It has come to my attention that there seems to be a commenter here who is going to have a lot of trouble with his liver, and turn a yellowish gray within a year or so, and feel sick no matter how much he drinks. Such predictable incoherence is the result of either wet brain or a lobotomy.
Those are the only plausible explanations. Or possibly this commenter is actually Harold McBoingBoing, working hard with the Rosetta program to learn English.
Happy, happy, happy! (Hic!)
“She makes her underwear from hides of Grizzly bear
And bathes in ice cold water every day
Her skin, I love to touch, but I just can’t touch it much
Because her fur-lined Parkas’ in the way.*”
I am so excited. Without even clicking the asterisk, my guess is “Ooga Ooga Mushka”. I can’t believe that I am not the only person in the universe who knows that song!
“Ther’s a salmon colored girl…”
Yikes!
I like reading y’all’s comments and stuff.
Well…
Mushka, Mooska, it’s all the same to me.
How about you keep quiet to the world that your little junior wets the fuckin’ bed after watching hockey games, you pathetic, contorted faggot of a father.
No really, you fuckin’ horned hick toad, what kind of person shares that with the world? Is this let’s-embarrass-our-kids night? And I wouldn’t give five free fucks, PC, if you can’t figure out that your boys act funny ’cause they own flower watering appendages and why you can’t solve the mystery as to why-not your daughter doesn’t do the same.
No wonder you ditto-heads relate to Sarah Palin, you’re petit-bourgeois who sucked on live wires and lemons in your hick-formative years. May your bitter, clinging devil-Gods fuck ya even harder all the way to the edges of your shanghaied consciousnesses.
Peace.
issues?
Architectural Digest? Lots.
Is he really the Messiah?
Yes he is. Believe it.
Messiahs aren’t what they used to be I don’t think.
Architectural Digest? Lots.Is he really the Messiah?
Yes he is. Believe it.
C’mon you guys. Use the handy-dandy strike tags and put thor’s comments where they belong: under erasure.
BTW, my sister has four boys.
Four. No girls.
Number 3 is a holy terror because he is too blamed smart for his age; he’s not supposed to do things that truly interest him. But he does them anyway.
Unscrewed the screws in the newly hung drywall to retrieve a toy at the age of 5 or so, and asked his parents for a blowtorch for Christmas, and was serious.
I’m sure my sister’s list is by far more terrifying than anything I can remember.
But she’s still alive. The oldest is 18 and the youngest is about 11.
I’m charmed, dicentra. How about a slop jar? Did any of your sister’s little eaters drink out of one of those?
And you? Any fertilized seeds exit your corolla? Do tell.
Tough call, Jeff. You want to go into the pitfalls and excesses of equality in women’s athletics?
Help me, because I don’t really get how a tiny-enrollment high school round baller, who didn’t receive a athletic scholarship, but booby-shaker one, did anything but reinforce identity politics. And what if Sarah Palin did receive a athletic scholarship, who the fuck cares. Women’s athletics nowadays, as yesterday, is/was nothing but titty-privileged money. Women’s athletics isn’t a money maker – fuck-off, Darleen, and you’re one-off rhetorical rebuttals – nobody watches ’em on TV or on the field and it’s not like they spend anywhere close to the training time male athletes on scholarships have to spend earning it.
Aren’t you projecting a little too much Angela Carteresque-type narrative on your wee book-hating Moosey girl? Blurring genders when it suits your political ends? She tough, but not too tough! And holding out moose-shooting Sarah as your worthy competitor compatriot while decrying those pussy-eating female coaches who made it all possible for a Sarah “the metaphoric ‘Cuda!” to get her free
cheesemoney.It’s never equal. Sarah “the ‘Cuda” is your symbolic vagina loafer. And a hick!
Look! BUNNIES!!!!
Pitiful performance tonight (last night) thor. Me thinks your trying to get hit with the ban stick.
you’re. coffee. more. off to work.
Me thinks your trying to get hit with the ban stick.
Nah, that’s all he’s got, Carin. He is caught in a viscous feedback loop he can’t escape. He has no talent, so he needs to be offensive to call attention to himself, but that also magnifies his lack of talent, so he tries to be more offensive to cover it up. And on and on it goes.
Thor your a virgin aren’t you?
Yep malignant narcissism is what hammer boi-toy has.
Though I still think he needs to get an NPR gig.
Come on, thor! Go for it!
The world needs to hear what you think! It really, really does!
Fior a very revealing exposure of Obama’s resume as an organizer, see the recently-published New Republic. H/T James Taranto, WSJ “Best of the Web.”
Poor thor, all his hopes of having his liberal guilt fantasies fulfilled seem to be slipping away.
Can you hear the wind whispering thor? It’s saying “will you take a raincheck?”
No wonder you ditto-heads relate to Sarah Palin, you’re petit-bourgeois who sucked on live wires and lemons in your hick-formative years. May your bitter, clinging devil-Gods fuck ya even harder all the way to the edges of your shanghaied consciousnesses.
Okay that was funny. How long does one have to go off their psych meds to come up with something like that.
Yeah, I laughed at that one too. Nervously.
He’s still trying to figure the answer to that one out.
Can you hear the wind whispering thor? It’s saying “will you take a raincheck?â€Â
The wind cries “Barry”.
I have to say, after partly reading thor’s first comment, I skipped over the rest. So, if he wrote anything amusing, I missed it.
I doubt one can get laid spouting out profanity laced tirades at random that have nothing to do with what anyone is talking about. If he picks up chicks by talking how he types in here I would be surprised.
Hmmmm. It seems that Obama was trained in community organization by former colleagues of “Rules for Radicals†author Saul Alinsky. Reviewing the list of rules, it seems to me that Obama has violated #2 and failed at #3 so many times (and picked Joe Biden for his VP) that Obama is doing #5 to himself.
I love being one of those stupid women who are easily swayed by Palin. I am absolutely relishing the disdain and hatred of the left.
;)
It’s one of the challenges of PW, you can’t just serve twice baked non-sense without risking taking a knuckle in the eye.
What am I to do when group-thinkers engage in pure fantasy? Remain silent, mingle and make friends, ask if anyone needs a refill of non-sense?
It’s been said Obama stands for, is emblematic of, empirically symbolizes, etc.., all that is wrong with so, so many aspects of Leftist culture, first and foremost that his achievements fell far short of being merit-based. Well, and what of your caricatures of Sarah Palin? Isn’t she the toughey! Isn’t she true equality’s symbol of intellectual and athletic and merited achievement?
No, I don’t thinks me so. She’s the worst of it. Sarah’s a stinking meritless failure marketed otherwise; that emblematic symbolical fraud you claim to abhor. Easily and conveniently horrified! Feigning horrifications when it’s politically expedient to do so!
Boogey man Barack! The horror! Tingles and chirpies!
What’s pure nonsense is that anybody is going to believe that you support Obama and oppose Palin for any other reason than that you hate women.
My advice is to not give up hope, eventually one of them is bound to say yes. Also, take a shower.
You make more sense when you’re drunk, thor. Just because you refuse to see something doesn’t mean it isn’t there. It means you’re an half-wit tool.
For all your claims at mental greatness, you seem to be the dullest person posting on PW.
“#Comment by JHoward on 9/8 @ 8:28 pm #
What scares you, thor?”
Well, we know he’s not afraid of castration, ’cause it’s too late.
Besides, Sarah Palin is more of a man than thor could ever dream of being.
Jeff has mentioned before that sometimes thor makes insightful comments. I guess I haven’t been reading comments here long enough, but I haven’t seen one yet from him or nishi.
Sarah Palin made energies come out of the ground and she got people to start making a big tube for them so we all can live and work and play. Baracky voted present.
You’re fabulously uneducated, thor. One assumes by choice:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/09/09/do0904.xml
Obama orchestrate any $25b deals lately? Ever operate an executive?
That you’re a desperate obscene profane racist drunk with issues with women and a cheap wannabee Hemingway complex (one of you could write and was man enough to actually do so) is only partly amusing and only for a limited time.
Maybe go back to reading Ortego Candelabra and yanking your own, familiar chain.
Sam, the insight comes from thor’s comment. Forget the content, look at the intent, look at what it says about the author.
seriously, if he wouldn’t serve nonsense (no matter how baked or unbaked it was) he wouldn’t be getting a ‘knuckle in the eye’. And since this is the internet he isn’t getting a knuckle in the eye unless he does it to himself. Methinks there is a very large, nearly unbridgable gap, between reality and thor’s fantasy life.
Check out Dr. Sanity’s archives for malignant narcissism. I think it explains a lot.
Where would we be without the British press? It has for real come to that. I bet that Megatrends guy never saw that one coming.
Sam Hall – Are you trying to draw the n-monster out? Personally, I have had enough genocidep promoting irrational unfounded IQ assertions, cudlips, early onset, neo-theo-con godbothering blathering to last a lifetime.
I miss nishi when her thoughts would dance different every day. This election thing, it changed her.
That was not her thoughts, happy. It was the different personalities dancing around. Now, she has organized them, typing only Memes #1-8.
I really, really FEEL for Thor. I mean, preisely HOW SMALL CAN IT BE? It’s really horrific to witness how underendowment can scar an intellectually challenged pundit at the psychological level, is it not?
Pray for Thor and his little bitz. There but for the grace of God….