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The Evidence Against Bruce Ivins (D-MD) [Dan Collins]

Ace has an (for now) exhaustive compendium of the evidence the FBI claims to have against Ivins, and an interesting coda, which somehow reminds me of some of the dust-up surrounding the Adkisson murders.

23 Replies to “The Evidence Against Bruce Ivins (D-MD) [Dan Collins]”

  1. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – Why hasn’t the Left blamed this on Bush…huh….huh….can’t answer can you…I thought not!

  2. happyfeet says:

    I think that guy’s pose of skepticism is kind of dorky. The wacky coincidence has nothing to do with 9/11, the wacky coincidence is that the FBI could find a nutjob working in an anthrax lab right when some nutjob starts mailing out anthrax.

    I’m thinking it’s not a coincidence.

  3. psycho... says:

    * The FBI has a consistent record of lying extensively and in great detail about the subjects of its investigations.

  4. JD says:

    I got a kick out of the (D-MD) in the title.

  5. happyfeet says:

    I’m just not feeling it this time around though. Mostly cause the anthrax targets were so weird. Like a liberal that wanted a conservative to get fingered. For real terrorists don’t think like that. Not yet anyway. Sure wasn’t no al Qaeda or Iraq or Nork though. Nutty liberal sounds about right.

  6. Pablo says:

    #3 psycho

    Let’s not forget that Steven Hatfill just picked up $5.8 million due to the investigation into him. The FBI has not covered itself in glory here.

  7. JD says:

    Since I do not see his party identified prominently in the articles I have read this evening, is it safe to assume that he is not a Republican?

  8. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – Just for starters, I’m always suspicious of skinny guys named Bruce.

  9. Beck says:

    I just discovered that the PW Login name “Beck” has been ganked out from under me. As the original Beck, I think an FBI investigation is warranted. Especially since this means, technically speaking, I can no longer log in as a guest poster and spew drunken drivel. Not that I’ve exactly availed myself of that privilege in the past… hmmm… been about two years I s’pose.

    Actually, that’s probably for the best, inasmuch as I’ve yet to find a vendor selling keyboard mounted breathalysers. I once won a five dollar bet over whether or not the word “inasmuch” was just one word (as opposed to three). That’s alot of money.

    HAR!

  10. Marina Eddy says:

    Reporting the passing of Chloe Collins Eddy – blk and white kitty – March 2008. love to hear from you. cheers

  11. formless minion says:

    Sorry, I just don’t see the Ivins/Adkisson parallel at all. I’ll believe this when I see someone besides Ace–Thesaurus in one hand, brandy snifter in the other–gesturing vaguely toward a spread sheet showing the hard numbers.

    You know, like old-school wingnuts.

  12. SDN says:

    If you look at the update he was a faithful registered Democrat voter. What a surprise.

    Copperheads.

  13. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – SDN – Believe it or don’t, theres still a difference between being a Democrat, and being a mutha’ fkng SecProg bonehead. I suspect he was one of the latter. ‘Ends justifies’ and all that.

    – The irresponsible no holds barred pursuit of political power, through mixing of the political and personal, has quite literally driven some marginally sane individuals into criminal thinking. Society cannot tolerate such activities and remain viable.

    – There is a long history of this sort of result, and the trail leads back inevitably to the hard Left, and activism, the sort of activism that incites uncontrolled passions. they try to deny responsibility, but it lands directly on their doorstep. No one else is inciting these sorts of activities.

    – Yes. Copperheads.

  14. urthshu says:

    You’re always talkin’ ’bout your crazy nights
    One of these days you’re gonna get it right
    Don’t bring me down
    No, no, no, no, no, ooh-ooh
    I’ll tell you once more before I get off the floor
    Don’t bring me down, Bruce

  15. Rob Crawford says:

    SDN – Believe it or don’t, theres still a difference between being a Democrat, and being a mutha’ fkng SecProg bonehead. I suspect he was one of the latter. ‘Ends justifies’ and all that.

    And yet the Democrats who are SecProg boneheads don’t seem to be able to do much to reign-in those who are.

    Odd, that.

  16. Rob Crawford says:

    No one else is inciting these sorts of activities.

    Minor disagreement on that point — there are, without a doubt, equally crazy folks nominally on the right. The difference is the scale, the degree of acceptance, and the role of violence in the political theories dominating the US scene.

    The left seems to treat those who commit violence — or just petty crimes — in the names of their politics as “more committed” and somehow more pure. Whether it’s union thugs, black race riots, environmental and animal rights terrorists, anti-globalization types, militant bicyclists, or just white-collar embezzlement or fraud (including vote fraud), if it’s done in the name of the left’s goals, it gets a pass — or praise.

    I just don’t see that acceptance on the right. You might occasionally hear a bit of it, but its generally shouted down. You won’t hear conservative politicians excusing political violence as “justified anger against injustice”.

  17. daleyrocks says:

    The Unabomber was a lefty too, wasn’t he?

  18. Rob Crawford says:

    The Unabomber was a lefty too, wasn’t he?

    Environmentalist type, at least. Which led to chin-pullers about how he had so much worth saying…

  19. Sir Lurksalot says:

    “Environmentalist type”
    Aren’t these enviro types called watermelons?
    (Green on the outside, red on the inside)
    Yes, I denounce myself in an enviromentally safe manner.

  20. steveaz says:

    Rob’s got it right, methinks.

    A couple of years ago, I asked a neighbor (an ex-Chicagoan) to curb her wild dogs. I had seen them running down a baby antelope one day and it. Pissed. Me. Off!

    Well, the following week her dogs were called in to the pound.

    Even though all signs are she called the pound on herself, you won’t need more than one guess to figure out who she’s saying call the ‘thorities on her. For the record, it wasn’t me.

    Well, back when I heard that both Daschle and Leahy received letters of the anthrax powder my radar pinged loudly. It’s 2008 now, and this still smells fishy.

    I think that, since both politicians were prepared to oppose Bush’s “Rush-To-War” after 9/11, the pall of victimhood provided by the mailings cast a thin coat of authenticity over their opposition to Operation Iraqi Freedom: as in, “We were personally attacked, but we’re not rushing to war! And by the way, Bush lied!”

    To entertain the insidious (something I admit to enjoying) – maybe, just like Vince Foster had to go to protect the Clinton Machine, so did the Anthrax “suspect,” in order to maintain the ‘accuracy’ of the fakery.

    Whew! Whatever the case may, I think we can agree that urbane politics suck!

  21. The Lost Dog says:

    Rob Crawford,

    Yeah, I’ve noticed the acceptance, and even praise, of the leftloons for violence against anyone or anything they don’t agree with. They are so blind that they can’t even see their own inevitable slide into totalitarianism. The moonbats are completely unaware of the fact that they act like children when questioned, and often seem to be missing half their brains. Logic escapes them.

    To them, the right is the seat of fascism, no matter what history says. They have even managed to convince themselves that Hitler was a right winger, even though the word “socialist” appears prominently in the Nazi party name.

    It’s beyond my comprehension that otherwise seemingly normal people could be such closet mouthbreathers. History and facts are mere puffs of mist to them. I think that the far left has been playing to ignorance for a long time now, while simultaneously working hard to create ignorance by destroying what used to be the finest educational system in the world. I find it very telling that civics, economics, and history have become third rate (and twisted) subjects in our public schools. The left just doesn’t give a shit what anybody else thinks, even if it’s three quarters of the country (Witness Pelosi).

    Thank God I graduated high school before the moonbats had a chance to destroy our schools. My grades were actually not very good (more like crappy), but I am appalled at the level of knowledge that our schools consider good enough to hand a diploma to. I feel like a genius compared to our contemporary high school graduates. It’s almost embarrassing. No, it is embarrassing. Remedial courses in college? WTF? Why are these people even in college if they can’t read or write?

    My son goes to one of the best public school systems in the country (I would have been long gone except for the schools here). Regardless, his head is being stuffed with left wing bullshit. He gets mad at me for questioning global warming, defending Bush, and on and on. What he hears in school is gospel to him, and I am just plain stupid if I disagree.

    Unbelievable. And pretty frightening, when you get right down to it. It makes me feel like a quadrapalegic. All I can do is watch the destruction of this *”oner” of a country.

    * Ain’t crossword puzzles cool? I have never heard that word uttered, or written, anywhere but in crosswords. But I finally get to see it in print.

  22. The Lost Dog says:

    “Well, back when I heard that both Daschle and Leahy received letters of the anthrax powder my radar pinged loudly. It’s 2008 now, and this still smells fishy.”

    steveaz,

    Too bad they didn’t think it was blow and carve out a couple of huge rails.

    I denounce myself! Pre-emptively. I don’t wish death on anyone, but I just couldn’t resist that one.

  23. Rob Crawford says:

    And, again, I don’t think the right is entirely immune to the lure of political violence. But there’s a much stronger devotion to the rule of law than there is to acquisition of power, the left’s paranoid conspiracy theories aside.

    There’s another difference — it’s an essential element of the left’s beliefs of how the world works that the strong are out to get the weak. They justify their own actions with that fantasy — look at datadave’s justifications for tax evasion. That belief feeds endless conspiracy theories, which, themselves require ever more distortions of reality as the facts contradict them. Look at the way the history of the last ten years has been distorted, to the point that the same person can hold contradicting beliefs about the same event.

    When you view the world through such a twisted lens, and honestly believe powerful forces are working against you, I guess it becomes easier to justify violence.

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