[editor’s note: this post is a follow-up to other posts that hope to teach people just who exactly Jake Shannon is, and to what dubious or downright fraudulent lengths he’s gone to set himself up as an ‘expert’ in catch wrestling and other fields. For a lengthy, sourced account of his attempts to take down his competition — including Shannon’s most recent ploy to hire web experts to bury search results that speak to Shannon’s very questionable (and certainly hypocritical) online behaviors — please see the post on Scientific Wrestling’s newest “Crisis of Confidence” that Shannon has paid nearly $500 to try to bury. Thanks, and feel free to email me with any questions — JG, 11/25/10]
Interested in catch wrestling? If so, Jake Shannon is your man. Because now, for a limited time only, you, too, can own his Certified Catch Wrestler Handbook — “the core text for catch wrestling training programs worldwide” — for only $40 (a $45 value!).
Can you really afford to pass this deal up? Just listen to what Shannon’s customers are saying!
WoW! my instructor in CACC let me borrow his book and there is no way it should go for this much money. Its basically a magazine filled with Xeroxed copies of pics from old wrestling texts. The moves are not broken down at all and there is absolutely no instruction. I have been involved w/martial arts a long time including grappling arts and have nothing but respect for Scientific Wrestling and Mr Shannon but really save your money on this on — Mike Baziz
This book is just a collection of pictures of Catch Wrestling moves and snippets from various websites and old books. It offers little to no instruction and exists basically as a brochure for the author’s website. Don’t buy it, it is a rip off. — S. Smith
But wait, there’s more! Also from acclaimed author, inventor, renowned polymath, catch wrestling expert, Human Rights Investigator, financial guru, and Master hypnotist, Jake Shannon: An Introduction to Vintage Jiu-Jitsu. Reviewers rave:
This book is a copy of three other books each of which is about 100 years old. I’m not kidding! — Daniel Bernard
Only one copy remains, so you’d better act now. And while you’re at it, be sure to pick up your very own copy of the 3 volume Authoritative Encyclopedia of Scientfic Wrestling, endorsed by people who, coincidentally, sell their products exclusively through Scientific Wrestling‘s web site.
Just how authoritative is this series of mimeographed books, you ask? Why, just look at the title! The word “authoritative” appears right in it! But don’t believe me. Listen to what customers are saying!
I just received all three volumes today. These are interesting. However, in hindsight, I think that if I would have been able to browse through these, as I would in a book store, I most likely would have passed on purchasing them. If you are impulsive, like me, be careful. I do have some regrets. Firstly, these are really not encyclopedias. Instead, they are photocopied compilations of wrestling manuals from the early twentieth century. (warning: your eyes will hurt from trying to read the barely legible text on some of these) If you are into primary documents about wrestling history, these are interesting. If you’re looking to learn some rare, forgotten submisson holds or techniques that you could use in MMA, there might be a few (doubtful). I guess that, considering the price, I was hoping for a higher quality of presentation. (page 7 and 8 from volume II were not in the bind) I would suggest starting with the first volume and then decide whether or not to buy the other two. The reason I’m giving them 2 stars is based on the price vs. quality. — B. Heying
Tengo el 4º volumen de esta colección y he de deciros que dicho volumen consiste en 3 libros antiguos de wrestling fotocopiados. La forma es deficiente pero el contenido es muy interesante.
Me parece una compilación bastante cara, puesto que no recoge nada original y las fotocopias no son para nada de buena calidad — Carnicero loco
All three volumes can be yours for the low low Kinko’s Lulu price of, oh, I don’t know — would you pay, say, $120 for them…?
— Of course, most people aren’t interested in catch wrestling. But that’s okay, too: because most people ARE interested in orgasms. And if you are one of those people, Master hypnotist Jake Shannon can show you the way to cum, as well. Using his mastery of hypnosis (which he picked up from someplace some time — I know, because he has a diploma, and it’s framed!), Shannon “has helped clients overcome sexual difficulties […] discretely and economically., assuming the source of anorgasmia doesn’t stem from pre-existing organic causes (e.g., diabetes, heart disease, prostatectomy, hormonal problems, or drug side-effects)” (source: “Aural Sex,” July 2009).
Jake Shannon: if he isn’t teaching you how to heel hook, he’s teaching you how to cream like a filly — or avoid secret government mind rays. Don’t you owe it to yourself to send him your money today?
After all, better to learn from Jake than, say, a hack like me…
Mind rays?! Where’s his paypal.
no worries. I’m sending him mind ray money. RIGHT NOW.
BzzzAAAP.
Jake Shannon is hypno-mazing at flim flam and the assorted con arts!
It’s a floor wax! No, it’s a dessert topping! It’s a floor wax, and a dessert topping!
Gimme some of that aural sex, dude.
*
Hey Jake where did ya get that mushroom shaped bruise on ya face?
…he de deciros que dicho volumen consiste….
Dont’s u be doing NUTHIN with ur “que dicho” around me, comprende??
But can he teach me to cream like a philly WHILE avoiding government mind rays? That’s what I want to know…
Jake sure can churn out the drivel, can’t he?
Mrs. Squid and I refer to the screaming children who occasionally invade our space as “Aural Birth Control.”
Back on topic: I think we could get rich on a DVD of this guy getting his ass beat down by Jeff and Tony. I know I’d pay money.
I empathize with Jake. People also mocked me when I said that I invented the question mark and accused chestnuts of being lazy.
Jake Shannon is not my master. This is my master.
How much does Jake charge for a blow job? Not for me, mind ya. Just askin.
anorgasmia is what the little president man done on our increasingly impotent dirty socialist little country I think
it’s a metaphor
#3: To quote Mr. Garibaldi from Babylon 5: “If this leaves a waxy build-up…. on anything…. I’m coming back down here.”
The dude ain’t “certified”, he’s certifiable.
o_O
fwiw, there are three-four years of Jake Shannon’s work on MySpace – you can find it here:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendId=193341&page=5
Everything from Jake’s academic credentials, his job history, employment changes, parties, works of intended fiction – which includes the phrase “nappy headed” –
Jake’s Schools
Golden Gate University-San Francisco
San Francisco, CALIFORNIA
Graduated: 2002
Student status: Alumni
Degree: Master’s Degree
Major: M.Sc. Financial Engineering
1999 to 2002
University Of Colorado At Boulder
Boulder, COLORADO
Graduated: 1995
Student status: Alumni
Degree: Bachelor’s Degree
Major: English / Film
Clubs: Bachelors in English, President’s Leadership Class Scholar, INVST member, Founder of CU Zen Society
1991 to 1995
Pomona High School
Arvada,Colorado
Graduated: 1991
Student status: Alumni
Degree: High School Diploma
Clubs: Theatre Arts, Tae Kwon Do
somebody may want to do screen grabs or a site dump. I don’t know if the timelines/timeframes Jake cites make a lot of sense from a training perspective.
His book “Anomaly” – linked here:
http://www.amazon.com/Anomaly-Revolutionary-Knowledge-Everyday-Life/dp/1449509428/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266805105&sr=8-1
paints him to be a stone-cold loon.
The dude’s managed to “figure it all out” – and yet the American Intelligence Community allows him to live to tell the tale, at $17.95 a copy.
It is as if he is trying really hard to be Professor Xavier.
So, I apologize for rehashing anything, but why have we not had a tournament between the two schools? Jake seems to find actual competition the only legitimate crucible. Or just Jake and a second for Tony? The big single combat representative throwdown? Sell tickets. Sell the DVD. Put it on YouTube. T-shirts. Pay Per-View. Halftime at UFC 189 1/3.
What stands out in Jake’s bio (to me) is the English/Film stuff … boy, if that combination doesn’t destine you to live on the Island of Misfit Toys I don’t know what does.
The chapters in Jake’s book include, among other things, the word “Epistemic”, The Mechanics of Communication, and “The Thing-as-it-is-Symbolized” — the entire book clocks in at 168 pages. The topic of “Mechanics of Communicaiton” is dealt with in 2 pages.
Which is a “Snap, no Tap” approach to the topic.
The Nazis were Christians.
The Founding Fathers were NOT Christians.
Politics as Pro Wrestling – which could be fun
and, hell, the Centralization of Symbology and the Paradigm of Tyranny.
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cough
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Presumably all Jake’s stuff is “scientific” if not “authentic”
@17 BumperStickerist
So he graduated his first year in HS and then just hung out, but had a gap for awhile before being accepted to UCBoulder and graduated (in 1995) BEFORE starting in 1999. And still bummed around for the next three years. He may have figured out time travel.
I am still freaking out that this piece of work is close to my age. Younger, but still to close to home.
Jake had a serious medical condidtion (cancer, iirc) that affected his neck – which got him involved in hypnosis.
That may have also given him that premature awareness of mortality that’s turned him into the Energizer Bunny of monetization — I mean, besides Scientific Wrestling, the Maceball, JakeShannon, Reverse Mortgages, the man also created “Pin Up Wrestling” where cute chicks wrestle in a PG-13 manner, the Scientific Mind Control – which has a forum you can join for $25 for 3 monts – among his other jobs/ventures that, seemingly, involve real work with paychecks by actual companies.
And he’s doing this in Effing Salt.Effing.Lake.Effing.City.
Given Jake’s self-described powers … I can only infer that Jake’s flashnytized the HR people into hiring him.
I’m sorry, Mr. Shannon, but …
“I am the Mortgage Analyst you’re looking for
Mr. Shannon, welcome aboard!
He may have used that Mind-Fu stuff on Wicks, Shamrock, and the entire Justice League of Catch Wrestlers he has under contracts.
Who knows?
The last time I mentioned to Jake that Tony would come out to his gym and happily get on the mat with Jake, Jake threatened to put “my brother the federal marshall” on me. I shit you not.
Several of Tony’s students have wrestled with Erik Paulsen, so Jake knows that they are for real. In fact, Jake wrestled some of Tony’s students when he was at the seminar in 2003. There isn’t a chance in hell he’d get on the mat with Tony. And that’s with all his mace bell training — and his years spent (supposedly) learning from all the catch wrestling greats in his stable.
Funny: he calls Tony a fraud, and yet with all his years of legit training, he wouldn’t dare wrestle him.
This should tell you all you need to know.
I mean, why is he so scared of a “fraud”?
Answer: because he knows Tony’s skill. The rest is just Jake trying to “scientifically mind control” those who don’t know better.
He says he started at GGU in ’98. That’s the same year they started offering online degrees. Currently the M.Sc. doesn’t offer a concentration in Financial Engineering. Don’t know if that was the case from ’98 to ’02
And, interestingly:
No calc req? Yeah, that sounds extremely rigorous. And, of course, there isn’t even an econometrics class currently offered, even as an elective. You couldn’t get a real analyst job with this educational background (undergrad was English).
Further, noting his LinkedIn resume, he only stayed at jobs for a year or two tops. His resume would have been shit-canned for that immediately.
That’s what he says now. Back when he was a pro wrestler studying under Randy Couture, he didn’t really mention the hypnosis.
The gals in figure skating have nearly perfect asses. That is all. Oh, and Jake Shannon is a twatwaffle.
but why have we not had a tournament between the two schools?
Up until recently there was a direct parallel between Tony being Mister Miyagi and Jake Shannon being the founder of Cobra-Kai Dojo.
now it’s turning into something like Santa Sangre.
or Teen Wolf.
.
USA beats the socialist Canucks in a great hockey game, that was pre-empted for ice dancing on the network.
And, as he’s just so full of shit I can’t believe it actually needs to be said, no one, no one, no one leaves a high paying finance job to practice hypnotism full time at a crappy office park in Salt Lake City.
Unless they’ve been mesmerized by government mind rays, I suppose.
Good lord. Read the first few pages of Anomaly on Amazon.
Commence your deconstructions here.
For instance, I had no idea the “gap” between reality and representation (or is it expectation and reality?) is “anomaly.” The menu is not the meal, Shannon tells us; but to me, the “gap” between the menu and the meal is not called “anomaly.” It’s called “my waitress”.
Funny you say that. I was telling Tony one day that today’s martial arts practitioners would be pulling for the Cobra Kai.
WHAT’S YOUR LINEAGE, MIYAGI? WHAT’S YOUR BELT? AND DON’T GIVE ME THAT, “BELT USED TO HOLD UP PANTS” BULLSHIT THIS TIME, EITHER, YOU SAWED-OFF FRAUD…!
If anyone was thinking about buying it, he seems to have put most of it up piecemeal already as “articles” or blog posts.
Oh yeah. Stone cold loon? You mean like a nut wearing a V for Vendetta mask holding a Ron Paul sign on a street corner?
Bh – google Natalie Pechalat.
Heh, now this is the way to enjoy the Olympics: have JD keep an eye on it and google all the hot chicks he mentions.
Yeah, she’s another winner, JD.
Natalie Pechalat, Cheryl Bernard, and Torah Bright have made the Olympics rock. And Belbin.
Here he says he has a “master’s degree in math”.
Huh?
There is some strange resonance in that film but it is with those who comment herein. And I don’t mean we are, enslaved to/in the thrall of, an armless mother.
And yet the only claim to his fame in the Golden Gate University Alumni blurb circa 2007 is that he’s the CEO of Pinups for Pets.
This page cache now becomes a new enterprise that begins April 1st 2010.
Yeah, odd isn’t it, Pablo?
By that time, according to LinkedIn, he’d already been a senior analyst, a manager at three different companies and a founder of research firm by then. (For a year or two at a time no less.)
Yet, he blurbed his wife’s pet charity as his professional accomplishment instead?
I wonder if he was worried that the alumni magazine might call and check his story if he gave one of his other “accomplishments”.
Pencil neck arm candy? (Amazing fact: It seems that the guitarist on that track is Billy Zoom.)
Also, watch this because why wouldn’t you?
Is it just me or is Jake Shannon really Barack Obama writ small?
I love how BumperStickerist brought it back to Sante Sangre as well, Geoff.
Good times.
Yeah, no shit. In your analogy the Scientific Mind Control equals passing entirely new legislation through reconciliation.
Oh, this is so Netflixed.
bh, I was mostly thinking that he’s a goofy looking fuck that talks a lot of shit without much to back it up. But I’ll give Shannon the edge over Baracky on having run something that made money without actually stealing it.
Actually, I was thinking neck, head and ear morphology. But, hey, that works too.
Personally, I think both Obama and Jake Shannon are quite attractive.
Jake is, per his Twitter, the Vice-Chair of the Utah Libertarian Party.
Which is all well and good. Jake made no mention of the selection process. Though, there was an election with terms that ran through 2011.
Our Libertarian Party of Utah annual convention was held at the Salt Lake downtown library on Saturday, May 16, from 11 AM to 1 PM. New officers were elected for the two year period until May, 2011. Next year, at about the same time, we will have our nominating convention, at which candidates for public office, including U.S. Senate and (probably) Utah Governor (special election) will be nominated. The following officers were re-elected: Andrew McCullough, Chair; Dylan McDonnell, Vice Chair; and Joe Buchman, Secretary. Welcome to our new Treasurer, Gene Bell, from Brigham City.
Some people wait for the stars to align — other people project themselves into the Astral Plane and move the stars through force of will into alignment.
I look forward to Jake’s next book “Scientific Libertarianism” – his views intrigue me and I am interested in subscribing to his newsletter
Certified Catch Masterbation Handbook by Jake Shannon.
Learn to get that dick of yours (or someone other dick) into proper submission. When it comes to materbation, Jake Shannon will show you how! Years of pleasure is promised.
Has anyone ever told Joe that he has the literary cadence of a robot?
That does not compute!
I guess we’ll have to contact the Utah Libertarian party higher ups and ask about Shannon’s position.
According to their website, it’s still McDonnell and the annual convention is in May. I’d ask McDonnell, whose email addy is very conveniently listed on that first link.
Also, I can’t find any indication that any meeting was held at which electing a new vice-chair was on the agenda. You’d think it would be here, like this was. But it ain’t.
I emailed Dylan. It’s possible he’s in DC now, so let’s wait to hear back.
Or one of you can email someone else on the board and get corroboration.
What do you want to bet that the Utah Libertarian Party is different from the Libertarian Party of Utah.
What. The. Fuck?
GGU doesn’t have a MSc in anything resembling “Financial Engineering”. They just have a MSc in Finance.
“Financial Engineering” is highly misleading; GGU doesn’t even have an engineering program. They do have an IT program, but that’s a different beastie altogether.
At GGU, you can get a Master’s in Finance online, although perhaps not back in 2002.
So, the dude’s got an English degree, and possibly an MSc in Finance. These equip him somewhat with a business plan-writing capability, as well as some qualification to talk a good game.
Or the People’s Front of Judea.
Can somebody find me the link to the Tweet where he claims to be Utah Libertarian Party Vice Chair?
Oh, this is Jake’s linkedin profile:
Reverse mortgages. Sounds trendy.
Slart, I couldn’t help but think of Financial Engineering in terms of the art of taking a pry-bar to other’s finances and removing them thereby.
Okay. The Libertarian Party thing is legit, according to Dylan, who just emailed me back. He says he moved to NY and that Jake was voted in at an annual election meeting a couple weeks back or thereabouts.
On another front, I don’t see a Masters degree offered in math at GGU. I’m going to call to find out about the Masters of Financial Engineering thing.
It’s in his twitter profile, Jeff:
http://twitter.com/Jakeshannon
Upper RH corner:
Bio M.Sc. Financial Engineering, Author, Master Hypnotist, ScientificWrestling.com founder, inventor of the Macebell.com, & Libertarian Party of Utah vice chairman
Here, Jeff. He also mentions it in his Twitter bio and it’s on Facebook as well.
What would “financial engineering” entail?
Also, where are you all finding the the degree was obtained online?
For sure he could get life credits if there was a Master’s Degree in bullshit.
Wow. So the vice chair of the Libertarian Party of Utah called me a “political hack” — and as proof, linked to Sadly, No! and Patterico’s Pontifications.
Meanwhile, no mention that I was a speaker at SamSphere for the Sam Adams Alliance a few years back — or that I am one of the quintessential classical liberals in the blogosphere.
Because he’s all about the honor.
Hmmmm….
Would it kill you to punctuate?
Is Evolver Jake Shannon? Could be. This appears to be a personality split of some sort. I wonder why.
The GGU course description of financial engineering:
Probably modeling. Again, note that it’s currently just a class. Not a major or concentration.
Re: the online thing. It’s been available (CyberCampus) since 1998. That’s the first year he was there (’98-’02). Don’t know whether he did that or not, though.
Okay, I emailed GGU to ask about the MSc. in Financial Engineering / Math. Hope to hear back soon.
See bh #23 which shows a correlation only. Online started same year as he did.
In that GGU Alumni mag, Pablo, note his email address, evolver73@.
Also, some of the blog posts are identical to the articlebase writings. Also, in that myspace blog he mentions he started up Infidel Revolution.
Slow again.
Matt Furey early on attached himself to the Newsmax crowd. Shannon is just following suit, only he’s going libertarian (and the rather fringe type at that).
I guess I can make Tony the classical liberal go-to guy for self-defense. Motto: “Not nearly as bugfuck crazy as that Shannon asshole.”
Yeah, but will you be on the agenda at Denny’s?
On the Infidel Revolution page one of the “members” is a “Joe Decker”. One this Google cache page which I linked in #38 he says he co-founded Gut Check Fitness with Joe Decker.
That Google cache page now resolves to Mental Self Defense which is the latest venture. Starting April 1st.
On not One, above
The Libertarian Party of Utah website has the following contact information for its officers:
W. Andrew McCullough
LPUtah State Chair
(801) 565-0894 (Office)
LPUtah State Chair Dylan McDonnell
LPUtah State Vice Chair
(801) 918-3151 (Cell)
LPUtah Vice-Chair
Joseph Buchman
LPUtah State Secretary
LPUtah State Secretary
Gene Bell
LPUtah State Treasurer
(435) 237-3122
LPUtah State Treasurer
LPUtah Legal Counsel
LPUtah Legal Counsel
I am sure a phone call to any of them could confirm where Jake Shannon fits in (if at all).
Joe see #63 above.
I’m guessing that in addition to being a polymath, the guy’s also an autodidact. Because there’s absolutely nothing in his formal education (GGU, UCBoulder) that would qualify him as a mathematician.
What is it with the libertarian folks we see around these parts – Shannon, Barrett Douchenozzle, Warren BonerSteel … Another trend developing …
It’s the live-and-let-live philosophy, JD. When your platform states that freaks and weirdos should be allowed to live in peace, you tend to attract more than your share of ’em. It’s why there’s never any shortage of good photojournalist bait at a Lib rally.
Just to keep this real … yo …
The fact is that whatever a douchbag Jake Shannon is, the man filmed half-nekkid chicks wrestling for money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_OYI8-PHU8
We can all respect that. On that we can all agree.
Right?
for the children.
and, just to be clear,
if it turns out that Jake Shannon actually can pop microwave popcorn with only his mind, then, I’m sorry Jeff, you’re on your own.
moreso than you were before.
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You’ll need me, BS. Because I am the ONLY ONE ON THE PLANET offering a special super secret elite — and completely digital! –anti-mind rays helmet, which I’ll be selling ONLY FOR A LIMITED TIME at the ridiculously low low low price of $597.
Hey, super secret mind ray protection — the most elitistist protection against mind rays EVER AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC — ain’t cheap, that’s true. But then, a MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE*
*(“a mind is a terrible thing to waste” is the property of Jake Shannon; if the Persians or anybody else say they invented it, they’re a pack of fucking liars).
another Jake-Site to add to the mix –
Salt Lake City Family Hypnosis
http://www.slchypnosis.com/
Not for nothing, but Jake’s organization is not registered with Utah’s Commerce Dept. At least the business name is available to be registered.
as is “scientific wrestling”
… just sayin’
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@88
Doesn’t miss a beat to shuck his “book” does he? Again claims the degrees and reiterates his cancer story.
Would anyone really give a guy money who uses that picture? Really? Anyone who does, have they been mind rayed?
Cool.
Taking a page from the Playbook of this Modern-Day Admirable Chricton I just registered http://www.ScientificProteinWisdom.com
… once I repackage Jeff’s essays on logic, rhetoric, locus of meaning,and querulous Levi Jeans into a “The History of …” series into something I can sell, I’ll be rolling in clover.
Clover, I tells ya.
Clover.
.
link under name.
Thar’s gold in them thar shills.
Or, there’s gelt in them thar geldings.
Well!
I must say, I don’t like the sound of “Master Hypnotist”…
Suggestion: get interested in the real sport
Nothing like comment spam. It just never gets old.
master hypnotist is better than MasterBater, mojo.
JD, isn’t that the guy who teaches the newbies on “Deadliest Catch” how to put the chunks of fish on the hooks?
No reply from Golden Gate U as of yet.
I think this project would really take off if we could just get that Sham-Wow guy to endorse it. Billy Mays is not available at this time….
I think this pretty well sums Jake up… even looks like the circumcised penis head.
Leave penis heads alone !!
well …
http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/tag/jake-shannon/
7. Where did you get your training in hypnotism and are you certified by any organization?
I am an auto-didact mostly. I had dabbled in hypnosis since being introduced to visualization as a teenage oncology patient but I didn’t begin serious, deliberate study until a few years later in 1993. By 1997 I was creating mischief and adventure for myself with hypnotism every single day in San Francisco and Los Angeles.
However, I did finally get certified by the International Association of Professional Conversational Hypnotists once I decided to begin a practice. As a prank, I didn’t tell the others at the certification about my past experience with hypnosis so they were all quite amazed when I was fully hypnotizing strangers later that night at the bar after just day one. A creative hypnotist with a sense of humor can be quite fun.
The International Association’s web-site is right here:
http://www.iapch.org/index.html
Jake’s not listed – in fact, there are only two IACwhatever’s listed. Which may put IAHCP right up there with Scientific Wrestling as a credible credentialing organization.
Here’s a copy of a sample certificate – suitable for framing –
http://www.conversationalhypnosiscertification.com/images/certification.jpg
btw – the name at the bottom of the certificate “Andrew Murphy/President IAPCH” doesn’t turn up in a Google search. And, the “contact us” information leads one to look at a site called “getquicksupport.com” … a quick tour to there shows a label — ‘Street Hypnosis’and an inactive site.
So, our friend Jake’s sole claimed credential for his medical-ish hypnotherapy practice appears to be a joke. OR perhaps served as a model for Jake’s own CaCC credentialling system … I don’t know. IAPCH also has an open book test for its lower levels of membership.
Jake’s a puzzle wrapped in an enigma soaking in a half-filled douchebag … this particular bit of thread tugging of Jake’s self-attributed skillz took all of ten minutes of time to unravel. It took more time to write this and provide cites than it was to convince me that Jake – whatever his street performer skills and/or annecdotal evidence of helping people – is a douche.
If for no other reason that the man claims as a strength “Expertise Acquisition”
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:M6ozztXHYQoJ:twitter.com/scientificmind+%22jake+shannon%22+expertise&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
* Name Jake Shannon
* Web http://www.scient…
* Bio Hypnosis, Meta-Cognition, Mnemonics, and Expertise Acquisition.
Given his history with CaCC, his hypnosis, chick-wrestling site, and doofy Dr.-Xavier-Meets-Crocodile-Dundee-Mind-Controlling-the-Water-Buffalo-Behind-The-Green-Door picture, I’m guessing he’s acquiring the expertise of others, rather than developing expertise himself.
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I’m beginning to suspect that Jake Shannon is just an elaborate prank. Not pulling an elaborate prank; his entire life, career, and public persona are an elaborate prank.
Kind of like the Reverend Buck Naked. Or more aptly, the Reverend JR “Bob” Dobbs.
I’m sure that’s what he means by “expertise acquisition,” BS. He gets experts to sell shit on his site so that he can bathe in reflected glory.
He’s a glorified road manager who has no problem fucking the fat, wall-eyed friend of the hot girl who’s off bobbing on the lead guitarist.
His problem is, he thinks that makes him attractive and able to make an ax sing.
BS — and the rest of you, as well — if you don’t mind, I’m going to use some of these comments in full for my next couple posts on the outside sites dedicated to exposing our pal.
Oh, and he’s invented the macebell. Which is just a gada, with a different name pasted on it. Just how old is that Karl Gotch mace-swinging video, I wonder?
Just try buying one. They’re cutting-edge engineering!
Incidentally, I just purchased Anomaly. I have no idea why; it was almost as if my will had been overtaken…
“I’ve been waiting and waiting, and finally someone has perfected the ‘heavy ball atop a stick’ thing. Thank you, Jake Shannon! With this new cutting edge technology, my conditioning will soar to NEW LEVELS!”
I hope it helps you to differentiate between conspiracy theory and conspiracy evidence, Jeff. Because nothing else can help you with that.
well, in Jake’s defense, having a hollowed-out on the heavy end and starting each training session by putting a live guinea pig inside was his idea.
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Jeff, feel free to use any posts/comments I’ve here — clean up the transitions, grammar, as necessary.
Also, I’m perfectly okay with your using any of my posts or leads as unsourced or non-attributed so that your posts don’t end up being overly footnoted. The stuff I found was public knowledge/readily available.
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Obviously, if the guinea pig lives, you weren’t doing Jake’s Mace-Bell routine right.
I was thinking about making a Macebell out of a third of a bag of concrete, a suitable-sized plastic bucket, and a length of iron pipe.
But that’d be a horribly inferior product, I suspect.
Also, there wouldn’t be much place for the guinea pig to go to.
I’ve been looking at Pinups for Pups and I’m having a hard time seeing where they give any of the cash they’ve raised away. Which makes this interesting:
Actually, it’s a great model for not having to report what you’re doing with the money you raise. But for generating funds, it’s idiotic. There’s no reason a 501(c)(3) can’t partner with private interests. And there’s no good reason to one, pay taxes and two, be able to accept tax deductible donations.
Then there’s the calendar:
100% of the proceeds? Really? Not just profit, but proceeds? When? How? Where does this or any of the other charity they’ve collected get spent? It isn’t on their site, aside from one broken legged doggie they were trying to raise vet funds for. I can’t seem to find it anywhere, and of course it never has to show up on a Form 990.
Damned convenient, that.
Mine has a picture of Jake etched into the ball.
I call him “Gus, the Exercise Monster.”
No idea why.
By the way, this is not a knock on Torque Athletics. I got my 40lb sledge (er, sorry…”war hammer”) through them, and it’s a fine product. I also bought a couple of grip tools from them that I use quite a bit. Shipping costs are outrageous, though.
Jeff, I hope you tipped the UPS guy when he delivered your half-ton of “war hammers”, weight vests, and assorted asskikin paraphernalia. Otherwise, future deliveries might get … um … mishandled.
Interesting, Pablo.
Any of you finance guys want to weigh in a bit more on what he’s doing with this? Seems to me like he gets to pretend he’s a charity — with all the benefits thereof — and yet he needn’t act like one (that is, he needn’t disclose where the funds raised are going).
Much like that great episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm in which everyone loves the fact that Ted Danson is an anonymous donor — because everyone knows he’s the anonymous donor. His selflessness is ostentatious. The pretense of anonymity is what is lauded.
Well, it’s similar in terms of motivation. Not sure Danson materially profited…
Darth —
The UPS guy is always asking me about the shit he delivers here and about how I use it / train. Nice guy,
The weight vests…that was cool. Because they actually fit them into USPS flat rate boxes. So the mail carrier had to lift two 50lb boxes that were no bigger than 10″x12″x3″.
I wouldn’t pretend this is within a hundred miles of my area of expertise but I don’t see “for profit” charity as inherently shady. If he wanted to, he could have gone non profit and simply given himself and his wife large salaries if he wanted to be skim.
However, as the scale of this charity is so small and it doesn’t seem to be doing anything novel (that required legal flexibility) it seems ludicrous to take the tax hit. As in, really ludicrous. Add that with his obvious love of BS and flim flam, and yeah, it might be interesting to investigate how the money is spent.
In other words, what Pablo said.
It says that 100% of the proceeds CAN go for the puppies.
It does not say “MUST” go.
That Jake – he’s a word-smith, forging sentences in the blackshop of his mind and unleashing the POWER.
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Thing is, Jeff, he’s deliberately eschewing a number of very significant benefits that a 501(c)(3) is entitled to, which makes no particular sense for one trying to maximize funds raised and expended on a cause. But he is using the charitable facade to close donations.
Unless he’s hypnotizing Lincolns to spend like Franklins it just doesn’t make any sense. And there’s no way to see where the money goes, and Pinups for Pups doesn’t tell us. It doesn’t seem to be on their blog, either, which, I don’t even know what to say about that thing.
I think he believes he is pulling off a giant prank on the entire world and getting the suckers to pay him to be punked by him.
Offering 3 day training sessions, with discounts off the “List” price. Critical Thinking, Investigation, and Mental Self-Defense 101 only $375 marked down from $595. Hypnotism and Hypnotherapy 101 marked down to $375 from the list of $895, 58% off, what a deal! Non-Verbal Communication 101, marked down to $395 from the $450 list, based on a hit TV show, “Lie to Me”. Push a big clue right in the suckers faces and watch them climb over it to hand you the money anyways. Priceless.
The thing with that is that those salaries would have to be disclosed annually on their 990, which anyone and their mother can stroll on over to Guidestar and look at. Then you get things like Charity Navigator assessing all that data, laying it out all user friendly and rating the charity on a number of measures. There’s all sorts of transparency in the 501(c)(3) game. Unless you’re cooking the books, you really can’t stuff your pockets full of donated money without anyone knowing about it, real quick like.
But if you break the soul-sapping constraints of being tax exempt and bend the free market charitable paradigm into a new age reality, you don’t have to tell anybody shit.
Good point, Pablo.
So it’s, only the IRS knows for sure, and they never leak except to top politicos of the “D” persuasion when necessary.
I notice he has now gone to the Pin-Up well at least twice.
Nothing sells better than tits, I think.
The weight vests…that was cool. Because they actually fit them into USPS flat rate boxes. So the mail carrier had to lift two 50lb boxes that were no bigger than 10?x12?x3?.
So the USPS will ship anything that fits in that box for a flat rate? Neat!
It’d be lovely prank to fill one up with, oh, say, neutronium – by my rough calculations, such a package would weigh around 3.9 quadrillion pounds. Give or take…
Leaving aside certain practical considerations (like, “where does one get a bunch of neutronium” and “isn’t it kinda pricey?” and “where would I get a table strong enough to hold the package whilst I address it”), it’s still an intriguing thought.
I mean, the look on that guy’s face… priceless!
Heh.
That much neutronium would pack a substantial gravity field. Better rethink.
fwiw – Tony (or you for that matter) may wish to follow the path Jake’s blazed …
http://www.gaebler.com/LOS+ANGELES++CA-LION%27S+SHARE+VENTURES+LLC-SBA-Loan-Information++366333
— and —
http://www.sba.gov/loans/businessdetail/output/2008/busca.html
Seriously.
SCORE could help with that.
Lion’s Share LLC is the parent organization to Scientific Wrestling.
.
So, let me get this straight, the fabulously successful financial wiz had to take out loans as small as $10k and $5k?
Call me crazy, but there is a hell of a lot less paperwork involved in writing yourself a check.
Added benefit to just writing yourself a check? No interest. Seriously, there’s no interest at all. Didn’t anyone at GGU teach him that?
Could this guy be any more of a lame ass carnival barker?:
*
and
seem at odds with each other, don’t they?
I wonder why he would agree to such a weird little promise and who would even want to persuade him into agreeing? Okay, I don’t really wonder that.
I swear he’s a third rate snake oil peddler direct from 1903. Renowned polymath and time traveler!
But precisely because of that he is worthy of study. All the tricks of the trade are there, done in a shoddy fashion so that they can be seen more clearly than when done by a first rater.
Have to learn to dissect the frog first before moving to the pig and finally to an autopsy where something crucial is on the line. He is a 101 level course in snake oil scammers. And it doesn’t cost no $375 after discount, yard sale pricing.
Heh, I hadn’t thought about it like that, Geoff. He does really show his hand as often as possible it seems.
Oh, on an earlier topic, it finally dawned on me why he just repackages old books and magazines into his “new” “books”. Public domain. Go to the library, find something old, scan it into your computer and sell it Lulu. Genius! If genius was served with a giant side of scumbag.
“If genius was served with a giant side of scumbag.”
Dinner in DC. On our tab of course.
This guy considers “White Collar” a study guide.
Found more. This guy must have 48 hours in one of his days. Maybe he figured out a way to slow down time with his mind.
JAKE SHANNON
* Founder, Scientific Wrestling
* Inventor, the Macebell
* Shamrock Submission Fighting, level 2 instructor
* Certified CrossFit Trainer
* Krav Maga Instructor
* Certified Kettlebell Lifting Coach, AKC
* SHOCKNIFE Safety Certified
* Professional Hypnotist (specializing in sports performance and weight loss)
I am fucking drooling over getting some of that $150 sledgehammer action. I have access to a machine shop, next time any of you want one of those I will make you a HELL of a sweet deal. Custom sizes too.
you left out Pin-Ups Wrestling, which is Jake’s bidness, not the Pin Up Pups thing, which is his wife’s charitable work.
BS
Except that he lists himself as CEO of the Pups thing. I would hate to ever have to go through his tax returns.
Question,
Anyone know what the LDS might think about his hobby in SLC? How/ why did he ever move there? Does his wife have a legit job there?
If we wait ten minutes, he’ll have added a couple more already.
* Certified Certifier
* Global Strategist, Goldmen Sacks*
*Not a typo.
Pure hunch, he probably bailed on California for the tax thing. He’s vice chair of the Utahn Libertarian Chapter, which means he pays for the second round of drinks at the State Libertarian Party Convention, held on Saturday at 10:00 AM at Denny’s, Booths 2-5.
Uh, he IS on the Indymac Alumni group on LinkedIn.
I’m not sure I’d put having worked for a failed bank on my resume.
Hmm…American Kennel Club?
the “tax thing” being the onerous burden of taxes paid by the little people for THE MAN. and other Libertarian thoughts.
Were I this way minded – some things that could be interesting –
– Scientific Wrestling is not registered in Utah. You could, conceivably, register the name for, iirc, $25 and put up some content having to do with the physics of wrestling rathe than a CaCC site
– Find out if Grand Master Jake and his Furious Five Fingers of Mind Control is in compliance with Utah’s medical community oversight agency with regard to Jake’s claims of being able to use hypnosis for smoking cessation and weight control. Those seem, to me, to be medical claims. I’m okay with “hypnotize yourself to be a better you” crap-o-la, but medical stuff is medical stuff. And Jake’s public statements about his concern should a patient have an “abreaction” to his tender hypnosis administrations leaves me worried … for the children.
There are actual, you know, credentialling organization
Interestingly – or not –
Jake’s been editing the Bejezus out of his “Newest Crisis” post ** and ** not documenting the changes.
I went to pull a memorable quote – one about Jake not wanting to take claims at face value – and it didn’t read the same.
Well … the newly revised post features new links, one of which is to a
youtube user account – http://www.youtube.com/user/Tuin699 – who didn’t register until Feb 8th 2010. The tape referenced by link in Jake’s Very Big Post has had a total of 61 views.
Also, the tone of the post has changed to a more “Aw shucks, I’m just a regular ol’ guy tryin’ to put food on his family’s table .. ” — JAKE! You FORGOT TO USE THE GOOD QUALITY NLP STUFF — it doesn’t work.
douche.
One guy who seems like a “good faith actor” in all this is Bill Cogswell. He is a former vice-president of Tony’s International Catch Wrestling Association, and jumped into a several of the Catch Wrestling threads with a “I was there, I have the documentation, This is not going to be a good conversation, et cetera.” but didn’t release the documents.
Which, you know, is a logical fallacy. Unless the guy is operating in the real world. What’s striking is Jake’s use of Cogswell to run Tony C. down in his “Newest Controversy” line.
Meanwhile, Bill Cogswell, on his site “Ground Fighting” has this to say about Tony”
Tony Cecchine: Tony showed me a different side of grappling that was a perfect fit to my own style. His system of grappling is rough, very rough, and I learned a ton from him regarding constant pressure and delivering pain to gain compliance. I also consider his material to be the most adaptable to real world violence. Solutions to real world violence are what I look for when it comes to training and learning, he has that and more.
http://www.groundfight.com/GF%20Influences.htm
Well, as Jake is – according to Jake – all about teh sweaty man-grappling, why does Jake talk out the side of his neck
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I wonder if Lion’s Share Ventures, LLC is registered as a foreign LLC in Utah. Just guessing but he’s probably only registered in Cali or Delaware or Nevada.
I wrote to Cogswell recently. He posted what Tony said was an out and out lie about him in a forum; Tony is willing to go the legal route to have Cogswell’s claim removed. Early on, Cogswell ran with Shannon in this scheme. He was selling himself as a catch expert on the WorldWide Grappling Forum. Lately, he’s mellowed. He respects Tony’s work, that I know. I think he just wants to be left out of it, but Shannon is dragging him back in.
That’s Shannon.
Also today I was skimming Sherdog threads (Shannon appears in nearly every one about Cecchine and drops a link to either his SW hit piece or a Bullshido thread that he used to trash Cecchine), and I got wind that Shannon had threatened people who posted about him with legal action – and even managed to get threads on Sherdog pulled by threats of same, according to at least one poster who recalled the incidents.
Seems he can dish out the libel, but he can’t take the truth.
Doesn’t really surprise me.
Actually, a safe way to avoid a lawsuit would be to talk about his background and varied interests.
He’s not looking like someone who would like to go through the discovery process.
Incidentally, those clips leaked by Tuin on Youtube? They are in my blog post, and they are now on Tony’s Youtube channel.
Those are clips from the “infamous Gotch tape” which as I’ve told people all along isn’t really infamous at all beyond Jake’s having labeled them infamous. Much like Jake’s “encyclopedias” are “authoritative” only insofar as he’s crammed “authoritative” and “encyclopedia” into the title of his collection of public domain texts, which he’s photocopied and rebound.
As is evident from the first moment of the tape, Tony made this to send to Karl Gotch as a follow-up to a phone conversation they had. Gotch wanted to see everything Tony knew about submissions. This is a demo tape, not an instructional, and the original was close to 2 hours long.
Shannon and his crew have cut some bits out to try to make Tony look bad — they mostly pull pro wrestling working hold stuff — and in fact, they even got rid of the sound for a large part of the first clip.
Though this is Tony’s property, he doesn’t have a copy anymore. We’ve been saying for at least two years that if they give us the tape, we’ll post it. Well, they didn’t — they tried to leak it — but we take ownership of it without reservation. And so far, it’s getting reviewed nicely on his channel, put into its proper context.
After all, a few of the things Tony shows — the effective stuff, like the proper grip up for the figure four choke, etc. — winds up on the Lost Art of Hooking series. The other stuff he doesn’t put on there, because it’s not hooking.
I also read today on Sherdog that the Shannonites are trying to manufacture another lie, namely, that Billy Wicks showed Tony how to wrestle. To assert this, they’ve leaked footage from an old CECCHINE SEMINAR, one in which he let Wicks show a few old-time rides, etc.
They don’t tell you this is a Cecchine seminar, or that it is from 2000 — 2 year after Tony filmed Lost Art of Hooking. Instead, a bunch of them hold a fake conversation in the thread that goes something like this:
Shannon shill 1: “I was innocently skimming Youtube today, and this Billy Wicks clip popped right up! Wow. It says Tony Cecchine doesn’t know the basics of catch wrestling. I watched the clip and I’d have to concur!”
Shannon shill 2: “Wow, I see that. You’re right. Tony must have been learning catch from Billy Wicks. Probably long before Lost Art of Hooking came out I bet.”
Shannon shill 3: “Indeed. Billy is a true catch wrestler. Tony must have taken all his moves.”
Shannon shill 1: “How did he fool so many people? Poor Billy. To be taken by this Tony character, who as we can CLEARLY SEE doesn’t know the basic fundamentals of catch wrestling!”
Here’s the deal. Wicks was a regional pro wrestler. After LAOH, lots of these old timers came crawling out of the woodwork. Tony would never say it publicly, but the impression I get from people who were around at the time was that Wicks doesn’t know dick.
This “ball and chain ride” was a ride Tony didn’t do. So he’s letting Wicks demo it at his seminar. Then he’s trying to teach Tony how to demo it. Tony is being nice and trying to learn something from the guy.
To have it spun 10 years later as a time travel video in which Tony is learning catch 2-years after LAOH and 3 years after doing seminars with Lou Thesz, who was blown away by him, is more of Jake and company hoping to rewrite history.
It’s sad. Jake thinks if he posts links to “critical thinking” tutorials on his site, it shields him. The suggestion being that Jake is really after the truth, and to believe him is to align oneself with the critical thinking crowd.
But really all it is is an attempt to give those who do no investigation on their own the ability to align themselves with “critical thinking guy.” By transference, they are the smart ones.
Art of the con. Let the marks come to you. Make them feel smart.
I learned that from Jim Rockford.
I wanted Shannon to release that Gotch stuff.
He didn’t have the balls to do it himself; again, he sets up a shill front and does it that way. But still — that gambit goes to me.
He sounds like the “good neighbor” everyone wants to invite into their lives.
Shills?!?!?
You mean like the one review on his Anomaly “book” at Amazon?
By the way, the latest clip is up from Snap, No Tap!
If that move looks familiar, that’s because it’s the move Wicks’ student Johnny Huskey got tapped with in his one pro fight for Pancrase (the fight Tony got for him as a favor to Wicks).
Shannon later interviewed Wicks (as a way to tear at Tony yet again), and in the interview Wicks said he’s “not a fan” of the top wrist lock, while Shannon noted it “only works on a novice.”
The interview went this way because they know the top wrist lock is Tony’s pet move, that he nails it all the time.
They were simply hoping to finesse reality a bit with their staged conversation. Working the crowd just like Billy did as a pro wrestler.
Of course, at the time, they had no idea the Huskey clip would surface…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0AEdXrlkUY
OOPS!
Did you see this? It came up as related from your link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQGpinPPISw&feature=related
There’s just so much weird shit in it. Faking a head lock? Huh? Why would anyone but a 10 year kid on the playground care? Also, for his fake, he gives the other guy his back. Sorry, dude, but you’re going for a ride if you try that with me and I’m a terrible wrestler. Or, I’ll just put my hooks in right then and put my other arm under your chin. Why would you give up position to fake something that can’t hurt someone with even minimum training?
Then the throw. Huh? If the guy slips the hold you just pulled him on top of you and gave him side control. On purpose, apparently.
I’m not seeing much there I’d do just rolling around, let alone in a fight.
It’s a joke — the move, not headlocks. Real headlocks can be brutal, but you do them quick and you take them to the ground.
We have a double wrist lock throw that can actually work, because it’s based in reality and taught by a guy with a throwing background:
http://www.youtube.com/user/cecchinecatch#p/c/76CD074C54544C98/2/elBp1wLI8Ic
I’m just talking about that video I linked. Totally different position. Your link shows solid technique for something you really do need to know how to get out of. You see that used successfully all the time on the mat.
I’m very curious about the headlocks. I’ve never gotten caught in one and don’t think I’ve had anyone try one on me since I was a kid.
By kid I mean like yellow belt, not the playground.
We show them on Snap, No Tap! Some of them, when coupled with a sprawl and the proper torque, will break a neck.
Of course, the front headlock is a long-time staple of amateur wrestling, as well.
In pro wrestling they are used as rest holds many times. Not the same as what we’re talking about. You don’t stand around with one, that’s for sure. To easy to counter if you aren’t quick and decisive with them.
Tony’s specific technique sounds pretty interesting to me then. Even if I’d have to figure out a way to definitely NOT snap necks. (That’s probably a DQ.)
When people try that lazy front headlock (not decisive, as you say) or even a guillotine to try and move me around I’m normally psyched. As long as I make sure I don’t fall into their guard, it’s one of the few times I feel pretty good that I can get a takedown and quick half guard at least.
I should add, when I say people don’t normally try headlocks, I meant the rear headlock. It’s just a way to give someone your back in my mind.
Okay, enough laughing at the flim flam man and picking your brain for the night.
Later.
If I were market-driven, I’d extend the Mace-bell concept
… with electricity!
… and EDGED WEAPONRY
I looked at the Shocknife stuff … add frickin’ Shocknife to a Macebell and you’ve got a mutha-frackin ShockMace
or attach electrodes to one end of the MaceBell and set the thing up to give you low-ish intensity shocks at random times. Make it a “Tolerance of Pain” process …
… attach a Rooskie sounding name to it, because Russians are tough, and you’ve invented the “Pain Ball”
or, in Russian,
Bolyee Myacha by Tony Cecchine
put some disclaimers – “Use of this device may cause heart-attack, stroke, concussion, smashed testicles, crushed feet, injury to standersby or aggravate ligament and tendon conditions … no pain, no gain.” – cover liability and sell it for $5 less than the Mace Bell.
or double the price.
Hell, it’s a niche market – there’s no telling what people will pay.
Hmm, add some tasty fried corn tortillas, and you could have yourself a TacoBell.
This is all great stuff. Please keep digging.
After all, Shannon has on many occasions told us it is our obligation to dig into dubious backgrounds and let the light of truth illuminate the shallow graves that we dig up, so that whatever skeletons exist there may find the heat they deserve.
See if the certificate here doesn’t look familiar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2D6lPoGIDc
The certificate does but the body build seems different from the Kimura throw video in this one.
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