February 17, 2009

A Matter of Ethics [Dan Collins]

As in, Bernie Birnbaum ain’t got any:

Two Senate Democrats urged the Justice Department yesterday to quickly release its findings of an ethics investigation into legal opinions under President George W. Bush that paved the way for waterboarding prisoners and other harsh interrogation practices.

Senate Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin (Ill.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.) are demanding an update on the probe by the department’s Office of Professional Responsibility, which for more than a year has been examining whether the lawyers who prepared the memos followed professional standards.

At issue are opinions issued by John C. Yoo and Jay S. Bybee while they worked in Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel, a once-obscure operation that advises the government’s executive branch.

Ethics.

Related: Obama spends weekend doing lines?

In Denver, last August, standing in front of those stage-set columns to accept the Democratic Party nomination, Barack Obama delivered a speech that included the following promise (boldface is mine):

I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less – because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.

Today, Obama returned to Denver, and with elaborate ceremony signed the $787 billion “stimulus” bill passed last Friday by Congress, which runs to more than 1,070 pages. That left fewer than 96 hours between passage and signing (thus also violating his promise about posting legislation for five days on the internet before signing, to allow for transparency and comment).

When did Obama even find time to skim this monster bill? Let alone go through it “line by line?”

Obama enjoyed an intervening weekend heavy on R&R. Carbon-emissions-notwithstanding (personally I don’t care how much carbon he emits, but Obama wants all the rest of us to sacrifice on this front), on Friday Obama flew with his family and entourage to Chicago, where he helicoptered in from the airport, to spend time at his Chicago mansion and — as The New York Times put it — see a few friends and “reconnect to the rest of the country.” Over the weekend, he took Michelle out for a Valentine’s dinner at a South Side restaurant. He got a haircut. He spent two hours playing basketball. He watched the N.B.A. All-Star game. He also gave his weekly video address. He then flew back to Washington, and on Tuesday flew to Denver.

Unless Obama was reading the bill over his Valentine’s dinner, and had it taped to the basketball backboard, when did he go through it line by line?

What a lazy motherfucker. What a lying, lazy motherfucker. First weeks on the job, and this douchebag CEO can’t be bothered.

Posted by Dan Collins @ 5:42pm
164 comments | Trackback

Comments (164)

  1. All you trolls out there that like to accuse folks of being haters? Now you can say it honestly to me, because I fucking hate Dick Durbin with a passion.

  2. Apparently bad lawyering will get you in trouble. Who thought?

  3. I can’t wait for the Congressional investigation into Congress’s part in the financial meltdown.

  4. Not understanding who and what your enemies are will get you killed.

    I prefer being in trouble to being dead.

  5. Apparently holding views different from those of your political opponents will get you in trouble. Who thought?

    Fixed.

  6. Criminalizing policy differences will always end badly, meya. Your party will not always be in power. Remember, there were many voices calling for the endless investigations of Clinton in 2001. GWB resisted that. Think your guy has the same stones?

  7. Think your guy has the same stones?

    Now that right there was funny!

  8. “Criminalizing policy differences will always end badly, meya”

    The ethics investigation appears to be internal to DOJ and based on this:

    “The 2002 memo, known as the “torture memo,” was later withdrawn after successors in the office denounced its analysis as shoddy.”

    That’s not a policy difference. That’s bad lawyering. It’s not criminal, but it will get you in professional trouble.

  9. Criminalizing policy differences will always end badly, meya. Your party will not always be in power.

    Convincing our resident trolls of that may take some effort.

  10. “Convincing our resident trolls of that may take some effort.”

    Yeah its like I’ll forget about the power of impeachment or something. Did ya’ll live through the same 90′s I did?

  11. meya is a fascist I think.

  12. The aren’t objective grounds on which to determine “shoddy analysis”, certainly not by Carrie Johnson. This is a political disagreement, plain and simple. The “mistake” chipshot quoting Mukasey points to politics as well. Fine, they lost the opinion polling but don’t push this “ethical” questioning horseshit.

  13. meya is a fascist I think.

    Now, now. I’m sure she considers herself a “progressive”.

    Of course, “progressive” and “fascist” are largely congruent, so…

  14. Think [Obamis XIV] has the same stones?

    Let me check my purse.

  15. This guy Phillip Howard is onto something. Something huge. His recent book is entitled Life Without Lawyers: Liberating Americans From Too Much Law.

  16. No, for real. Forcing public officials to shape their policy views in deference to an unaccountable dirty socialist collective of thugs like the American Bar Association is about as fascist as it gets I think. It’s a lot anti-American to elevate the group over the individual like that. Where’s that one kid when a spot of eloquence is needed?

  17. Sight unseen, I’d settle for John Yoo’s ethics over those of some group of unknown bureaucratic morons in the “office of professional responsibilty” any day of the week. Or yours, for that matter, meya.

  18. Hope everyone sawObama’s lawyers are fighting for Karl Rove – heh, the comments are priceless

  19. Fascist tendencies are fascist tendencies, whether they’re from a newly-minted fascist dipshit like Baracky or from career fascists what have been ensconced in our Justice Department for years and years. The point is that putting public officials on notice that their policy decisions will be reviewed by a board what has the ability to take away their means of making a living is fascist, and meya is just licking it up and getting all moist here. God you’re vile.

  20. You know, it would be just too much to ask Congress to analyze its own failures. Something must be done about Boooooooooooooosh, before he strikes again!

  21. “there is such a thing a shoddy legal work”

    ask ted stevens

  22. I don’t give a damn that another lawyer disagreed with Yoo, idiot. As a matter of fact, the replacement specifically states that he disagrees with Yoo over a matter of opinion and as far as I’ve seen him speak to the matter has never, never I repeat for the idiot, questioned Yoo’s ethics. He thought the WhiteHouse should have spent more time involving the Congress in these decisions as a prudent matter of politics. This boiled down to a strategic decision of approach and he disagreed.

  23. Of course that bastion of ethics and acme of turpitude and hypocrisy Dick Durbin is a the heart of this; it would be either him or Leahy I guess…

    It goes without saying, but I will anyway, that they are truly pieces of shit…

    And Holder is the one that mulling over the question? He would have been behind bars if Boooooooosh! hadn’t made a point of not going after Clinton apparatchicks; in the name of true grace, unity, forgiveness, and non-partisanship…

    Oh that, and of course now they say that Jooooooooooooooooosssss! were behind the Rich pardon act; really, they were-the one!s minions have said so…

    As always, the morally bankrupt and politically conniving Democrat party is intent on doing what they have been spared many times over…

    Just remember, the worm always turns, every dof has it’s day, and the higher you fly-the further the fall…

    Folk wisdoms are so for a reason. O! and his fellow Communists Democrats are flying pretty high right now. I for one, am looking forward to their coming Icarus moment…

  24. Yeah its like I’ll forget about the power of impeachment or something.

    Who are we planning on impeaching?

  25. “Sight unseen, I’d settle for John Yoo’s ethics over those of some group of unknown bureaucratic morons in the “office of professional responsibilty” any day of the week.”

    Thats an argument for releasing the ethic’s report — unknown bureacrats no more! But you won’t settle for Yoo’s replacement? Seriuosly?

    “The point is that putting public officials on notice that their policy decisions will be reviewed by a board what has the ability to take away their means of making a living is fascist, and meya is just licking it up and getting all moist here.”

    Man this ‘fascist’ stuff has just gotten lazy. Now to not exempt admin lawyers from professional ethics is ‘fascist’? Upholding the rule of law — as it applies to fucking torture! — is ‘fascist’?

  26. And what is the rule of law, meya, as it applies to non-signatory enemy combatants?

  27. Man this ‘fascist’ stuff has just gotten lazy.

    whiny fascists are the worst

  28. Isn’t one of the ideas of the Geneva Conventions to protect civilians by insisting that parties to military conflict are identified as such?

  29. fucking torture! fucking torture! fucking torture!

    *giggle*

  30. Goldsmith isn’t the one making these claims as to ethics. I can read and listen to his arguments just as I can with Yoo. Both are decent men attempting to do what they think is right.

  31. I want investigations into the Lancet report, and all the pols who spouted that nonsense. Let’s have more investigations, meya.

  32. Here is Jack Goldsmith.

    There has been much speculation about how the Obama administration will deal with what many view as the Bush administration’s harsh, abusive and illegal interrogation program. Some have called for an investigation by Congress or the Justice Department, possibly leading to criminal sanctions. Others think such investigations are infeasible or would smack of political retribution, proposing instead that a bipartisan commission look into the matter.

    These are all bad ideas. They would bring little benefit, and they would further weaken the Justice Department and the CIA in ways that would compromise our security. (I worked at the Justice Department from 2003 to 2004 on issues that probably would be subject to new investigations, so readers should consider my views accordingly.)

  33. I’m gonna hunt down all you whores.

  34. And, as long as we live in a society where many consider the Constitution to be a fungible, living, document that suffers subjective interpertations, it’s no surprise that lawyers will have vastly different opinions of the same legal constructs…

    It’s a function of the sellout of ethics and underlying moralities in our secular progressive society. If people could agree on the baseline instead of searching for excuses for the indefensible, based on phoney props of culture and situational ethics, we wouldn’t have a fraction of the problems of today…

    My wife’s a NYC public prosecuter and is the first one to assert that many of the private attorneys she crosses path with operate under a “by any means necessary” mindset. That attutude, in one of our nations major cities, does not bode well for the overall integrity of those practicing that profession…

    At least in engineering, we recognize that figures don’t lie, but liars figure…

  35. Once upon a time we in the UK lagged behind the US and learned from both your mistakes and your progress. Now you’ll have to reverse the pattern; we got neo-socialism 12 years ago. You’re just starting yours. Ours is almost certainly irreversible, as we descend into deeper statism by the hour. You are screwed for two years at least, but you have a chance then to fight back and take the first steps to reversing the Long March. Either wrest the grip of the Obamoids from you levers of power or amputate their fecking arms, before it’s too late. Our condition is terminal and I see a familiar pattern developing across The Pond.

  36. Thank you, Frank. I wish you were here to help, in person.

  37. “Goldsmith isn’t the one making these claims as to ethics. ”

    No but he is the one that immediately overturned the work.

    “I want investigations into the Lancet report, and all the pols who spouted that nonsense. Let’s have more investigations, meya.”

    That Lancet thing surprised me. Who knew that they had an ethics board for work like that? As for this investigation, its done. Now it’s just a matter of whether we see it or not. Took a while to get the memo out. Maybe won’t take as long to get this out.

  38. Slow down, Mr. Collins.

    We first need feasibility studies into more investigations.

  39. i say we do code pink tactics: throw dead mice at sanfrangranma

  40. No, the investigation’s not done. The investigation went to methodology, not motive. I say, let’s find out who was behind the thing.

    Or do you have a problem with that, meya?

  41. Maybe won’t take as long to get this out.

    fascists like “science” that agrees with them

  42. meya

    did you actually read the WaPo article? Cuz I keep seeing the “professional standards” meme with no definition of what they mean.

    Sounds more like they are working backwards … seizing on memos they have they don’t like and MAKING a standard to violate to fit the pique.

  43. Boy you’re smart meya, aren’t you? Jack Goldsmith overturned his predecessor’s analysis because he disagreed with it. Wow. It’s so unethical of Yoo to be in disagreement with Goldsmith, right? Worst of all to disagree on strategic political questions the answers to which are perfectly and always obvious to people who don’t have to make the decisions in realtime, or who at least otherwise have some magical insight into the plan of the universe.

  44. “This is from the professional responsibility office at DOJ.”

    So, what’s the Republican/Democrat ratio there?

  45. “did you actually read the WaPo article? Cuz I keep seeing the “professional standards” meme with no definition of what they mean. ”

    Yeah imagine that. The WaPo does a poor job of discussing professional legal standards in a one page article about durbin wanting the results of an investigation released. That must mean they don’t exist and the office of professional responsibility in probably the largest organization employing lawyers (the department of justice) doesn’t know much about them.

  46. Oh, but I want more investigations.

  47. It really doesn’t matter meya, the only thing different is Obama won’t need a ruling because his crew can beat the shit out of whoever they want and the spooks will keep it secret.

  48. Blast.

    Sorry, Dan. I blame Captain Morgan.

    I say shoot them all out of cannons and skip the investigations.

  49. imagine, meya, a long article tracking the timeline of the Yoo memos and containing this line

    Memos issued by the OLC have been a frequent political pressure point.

    and absolutely NO DEFINITION OF WHAT ETHICAL STANDARD (IF ANY) WAS ALLEGEDLY VIOLATED.

    Hey, meya, how about some cop you may have pissed off because you guys got in an argument in the 10 items or less line and after you leave the market he picks you up and arrests you. You’re held for 48 hours, and you’re told you’ll find out the charges after THEY figure it out what they want to charge you with.

    fine with you?

  50. You know, it was pretty terrible, the leaks over Plame. Somebody should go to jail.

    Leaks over waterboard interrogation of three terrorists in custody, though, that’s patriotism. Patriotism to reveal “black” prisons. Patriotism to reveal extraordinary ren . . . oh, wait, sorry: Obama’s keeping that in his arsenal.

  51. about durbin wanting the results of an investigation released

    fascist liar. What dirty socialist piece of shit Durbin wants is to turn over the investigation to organizations that can end the careers of Bush officials and blacklist them. Yes. Blacklist them you fascist, and put everyone else in government on notice they better toe the fascist party line. You’re a McCarthyite skank I think.

  52. B Moe

    more importantly, the Obama fellating reporters will keep it secret.

    shades of 1960′s … save Michelle can’t pull off the pillbox hat

  53. meya is a McCarthyite skank I think, just so we’re clear.

  54. On your update Dan, check out Amy Holmes comment on Obama’s theater today.

  55. You do realize, right, that Mrs. Clinton, whose husband pioneered this extraordinary rendition, is right on board with the policy of her husband and her boss, though she likes to talk about how horribibble teh Christians are, what with their Christiany torture prisons and all? Perversion of the religion!

  56. Also Byron York’s track on the non-speed of the emergency.

  57. It seems that Mr. Bushy McFishSandwich or whatever nom de plume he has taken in the lefty mind this week could have spent a good part of the former half of his presidency investigating Tarnak Farms and invoking “the failed policies of the last 8 years which led to 9/11,” but there’s that little dignity thinger.

  58. Oh, if there weren’t so many other facilitators, I’d love for it to be his alone, sdferr.

  59. Damn since most of the trolls left, Meya is getting beat like a red-headed stepchild for being the last O! supporter standing.

  60. is it me or does mr. affirmative action doesn’t seem to care what happens as long as he gets room service

  61. I think he’s mistaken if that’s what he wants, though it does seem just that for now. I’d guess he’s depending on the masses to be unable to differentiate cause from effect when the economy eventually recovers a couple of years from now. How stupid? Pretty stupid after all, they elected him.

  62. I for one will sponsor H1b visas for new trolls, seeing as our current encephalopathic lot have exhausted all this week’s talking points.

    O and damn, anyone see the Dow recently? Play your cards right and you could pull some serious bank when the upturn starts.

  63. Basecatazz please oh please do Palin next!!!!11!!1

    I am being sarcastic if you couldn’t tell douchebag.

  64. Obama: “I am a mendoucheous marxist naif, and inflate your tires. Cracker”

    Direct quote. I Swear.

  65. In what sense any of your comments on here have anything to do with this post other than proving you are a tool.

  66. meya, you are aware that campaign contributions from DOJ went Obama 3-1

  67. “the fundamentals of our economy are sound” – John McCain.

    Oh, look how cute! The troll is trying to induce cognitive dissonance!

    Wrong blog, Base. And you’ll have a hard time finding a starboard-side blog that will defend McCain. Most of us hates him.

    Besides, McCain is also famous for saying that he doesn’t understand economics very well, so instead of identifying that comment as a lie, you should classify it correctly as a really stupid, know-nothing statement. Which puts him on par with the rest of the Senate.

    So I can’t give you more than a —2.5 on that stinger. For next time, brush up on (a) the general attitude of this blog, (b) the difference between a lie and a dumb statement, and (c) humor.

  68. Well he did say he didn’t understand economics that well yes but even he was smart enough to know not to vote for over a trillion dollars in spending before reading the bill.

  69. No, it doesn’t sound like America, meya. Actually, it sounds like one of those multi-culti nations.

    But, hey, do your best John Mellencamp imitation for the cameras.

  70. Sounds like America, don’t it?

    no fag pink houses for me

  71. I should write a book about the LIBTARD media and Obama.

    I’d call it “SLOBBERING”.

  72. …check out Amy Holmes comment on Obama’s theater today.

    Is Biden holding a bucket in that picture? I can’t tell for the desk.

  73. fascist liar. The article isn’t about the innocuous release of the results of an investigation.

    Two sources briefed on a draft of the report said there is a strong likelihood that its findings will be shared with state legal disciplinary authorities, who could launch their own investigation into whether the lawyers who prepared the memos abided by their professional responsibilities.

    What meya wants is to blacklist public officials for their political views. Yes. Blacklist. Welcome to Baracky’s fascist America. Blacklisting. And somewhere upon tattered wicker meya’s fascist unkept pooter drools excitedly upon meya’s fascist ample thighs I think.

  74. meya

    It’s pretty simple… if there are “professional standards” somewheres that all lawyers are to adhere to, how hard is it for a reporter to ask “what are they being charged with?”

    funny how I expect that … but then I expect real reporters, not J-school democrat syphocants

  75. Wrong blog, Base. And you’ll have a hard time finding a starboard-side blog that will defend McCain. Most of us hates him.

    We hates him, yes we do my precious. Still, he did win your nomination for a reason.

    Besides, McCain is also famous for saying that he doesn’t understand economics very well, so instead of identifying that comment as a lie, you should classify it correctly as a really stupid, know-nothing statement.

    And yet, everyone who voted against him was even more stupid.

    How elitist of you.

  76. Shorter Meya: Blahhhhhhhhhhh, blahhhhhhhhhhh.

    Navy seals get waterboarded as part of training or so I hear. Go protest them. Yea, yea brown people and all that.

    But for reals, the remaining people not suffering from tertiary syphilis of the economic/civic variety, yea Idaho I’m looking at you, should form some sort of free trade union from Montana to Texas and steal all the prosperous/competent industry from the unholy coastal alliance of dirty socialists what don’t even realize what harm they’re doing because all those nasty 9:30 econ classes were really cutting into the ganja time, and man look at this Boticelli, how sweet is that?

  77. Let’s leave Botticelli out of this, Dash.

  78. newt

    bushobama

  79. You’re surprised that they don’t have any information on the investigation whose results are not released. In an article about people demanding the release of those results. Maybe they should release those results then.

    You know what is almost as tasty as a crisis, Dan?

    Rich, secrety goodness!

  80. Ok I’m in my safe place now. Jasper Johns is here.

  81. Still, he did win your nomination for a reason.

    Because he was the media darling. Well, in the primaries anyway.

  82. newt
    nixonobama

  83. i like

    stop bushobama

  84. Baby, I’m-a want me
    Baby, I’m-a need me
    I’m the only one I care enough to hurt about . . .

  85. “chief justice thought it was a ‘reasonable’ seizure to put arrest and jail a girl for eating french fries in a metro.”

    was it against the law and who makes the law in big cities? can you say Demorat?

  86. Let’s leave Botticelli out of this

    Yeah. Nastiest hangover I ever had came from that stuff.

  87. “chief justice thought it was a ‘reasonable’ seizure to put arrest and jail a girl for eating french fries in a metro.”

    i like how you demorats make laws then not to follow them ax chuck rangel

  88. Fascism is always serious, meya.

    Despite what you might have learned from watching Hogan’s Heroes.

    And you know who’s wearing the brown shirt?

    You.

  89. OOhhh I can’t wait until the mockumentary ‘Fahrenheit 2/17′ comes out.

  90. And you know who’s wearing the brown shirt?

    i think naomi klein told algore to wear “earth” colors

  91. Is black an earth color? ‘Cause that one works, too.

  92. You lie again don’t you? What is it with that, you just can’t stop yourself? Beldar’s fuller discussion of that opinion.

    WaPo: The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia yesterday upheld the arrest of a 12-year-old girl by Metro police for eating a french fry in a train station in fall 2000.

    The court affirmed a lower court ruling that Metro’s “zero-tolerance” policy and the child’s subsequent arrest were constitutional, although Judge John G. Roberts made it clear that he was no fan of the policy.

  93. Is black an earth color?

    yea because it is italian

  94. But everyone wants to see what OPR has to say.

    sorry appeals to a mob don’t sway me

  95. Let’s leave fascism out of this.

    is the direction of the private sector by the obamament fascism?

  96. Let’s leave fascism out of this.

    You first.

  97. Oh I don’t pretend that professional ethics is a joke. This is serious.

    fucking torture! fucking torture! fucking torture!

    You’re a fascist joke is what’s a joke. If you believed that these gentlemen aided and abetted torture than you would have to argue against a professional slap on the wrist and insist upon a criminal procedure.

    fucking torture! fucking torture! fucking torture!

    But no. You and your Soros-fellating cadre of fascists are too cowardly for that. No trial, please, we’re fascists. Your phony angst about torture is a pretext for a good old-fashioned blacklisting of your political opponents. That’s all it is. You are one truly nasty fascist skank.

  98. “The court affirmed a lower court ruling that Metro’s “zero-tolerance” policy and the child’s subsequent arrest were constitutional, although Judge John G. Roberts made it clear that he was no fan of the policy.”

    I’m not a fan either. But apparently in America, it’s “reasonable” which is what the Fourth Amendment requires, not that we or our judges be fans of seizure policies, but that they be “reasonable.”

    “sorry appeals to a mob don’t sway me”

    Hey even Darleen wants to know more.

  99. French Fries – Root Cause.

    I’m a little surprised no one had done that yet.

  100. It was your dirty socialist DC pals what passed the law in question, fascist meya. This is who you are.

  101. She’s really angry that the justices refer themselves to the Constitution. Once all these people get over that, there won’t be any problems anymore.

  102. Roberts:

    No one is very happy about the
    events that led to this litigation. A twelve-year-old girl was
    arrested, searched, and handcuffed. Her shoelaces were
    removed, and she was transported in the windowless rear
    compartment of a police vehicle to a juvenile processing
    center, where she was booked, fingerprinted, and detained
    until released to her mother some three hours later — all for
    eating a single french fry in a Metrorail station. The child
    was frightened, embarrassed, and crying throughout the ordeal.
    The district court described the policies that led to her
    arrest as ‘‘foolish,’’ and indeed the policies were changed after
    those responsible endured the sort of publicity reserved for
    adults who make young girls cry. The question before us,
    however, is not whether these policies were a bad idea, but
    whether they violated the Fourth and Fifth Amendments to
    the Constitution. Like the district court, we conclude that
    they did not, and accordingly we affirm.

  103. it’s “reasonable” which is what the Fourth Amendment requires, not that we or our judges

    you idiot demorats made the law. why are idiot demorats making idiot laws according to demorat activists who blame rethuglicans supreme court people who rule in favor of idiot demorats?

  104. “The question before us,
    however, is not whether these policies were a bad idea, but
    whether they violated the Fourth and Fifth Amendments to
    the Constitution. Like the district court, we conclude that
    they did not, and accordingly we affirm.”

    And the fourth amendment requires that it be “reasonable.” There you go. Roberts thinks it is. He’s not alone.

  105. basecat

    does your mommy know you’re on her ‘puter?

  106. By the way welcome back assclown.

  107. If I were you, I’d stop asking questions.

    yes of course fascist don’t like questions. hey rahm “dead fish” you be paying taxes on your free rent any time soon?

  108. And the fourth amendment requires that it be “reasonable.”

    maxine waters reasonable? or the JOHN conyers type

  109. Yeah and I will believe you are willing to have an actual conversation on here when you do not start it out with how much you hate Palin, McCain, or Bush.

  110. I’ll believe Republicans give a shit about the Constitution around the same time they prove they’re actually willing and capable of shrinking government.

    so demorats are about the ever expansion of obamament?

  111. A troll can change his name, but never change who he really is. TrollHammer™: ask for it by name.

  112. wow meya, that “french fry” meme went right back in your face. You look really weak here about now.
    I get that you don’t agree with many here, but the people here aren’t stupid.
    they have recourse to search engines too, you know.
    food for thought–now play nicely, or failing that, smarter.

  113. meya is a McCarthyite skank I think, just so we’re clear

    Happy, why you make me so sad? I love skanky women, and McCarthy was a true hero, who died at 48 years of age after serving his country with honor and dignity. If you don’t know of the Venona Project, you don’t know shit about the Wisconsin hero Joe Fucking McCarthy.

    What you are doing is slandering a hero, like many Republicans are and will be slammed because libs want them destroyed: Bork, Thomas, Bush, Cheney, Nixon, Allen, Quayle, Palin, Reagan, etc.

    Let us all stop and celebrate the heroism of Joe McCarthy, when we get a chance.

    for a sheeny, he’s got a lot of good qualities
    -Mink LaRue

  114. libel

  115. “you idiot demorats made the law. ”

    Hey and I was using it as an example of how things are in America. Looks like everyone agrees on it.

  116. Yeah and I will believe you are willing to have an actual conversation on here when you do not start it out with how much you hate Palin, McCain, or Bush.

    Yes, that would be nice. But, in light of recent events, what would have been the point?

    The GOP needs ideas beyond Tax Cut muscle memory. Sarah Palin is an idiot.

    And get this…it wouldn’t have bothered me all that much had McCain been elected.

  117. Many critics of the released Venona papers claim the material to be unverifiable, with some, such as William Kunstler, going so far as to claim that the NSA had forged Venona material in its entirety in order to discredit the reputation of the Communist Party of the United States of America and its members.-wikipedia

  118. Comment by easyliving1 on 2/17 @ 9:17 pm #

    Yeah, well lying pieces of shit can post anything on wikipedia.

  119. I was using it as an example of how things are in America. Looks like everyone agrees on it.

    fascist liar. Our Chief Justice said he didn’t agree with this law. The law was subsequently changed. Why don’t you get your skank ass back to drawing up your blacklists and stop trying to play the little dirty socialist legal scholar home edition game?

  120. crap.

    fascist liar. Our Chief Justice said he didn’t agree with this law. The law was subsequently changed. Why don’t you get your skank ass back to drawing up your blacklists and stop trying to play the little dirty socialist legal scholar home edition game?

  121. What a lazy motherfucker. What a lying, lazy motherfucker. First weeks on the job, and this douchebag CEO can’t be bothered.

    I love you Dan for saying that…in a heterointentional sort of way.

  122. Oh the new memo, all Republicans want is tax cuts. Keep repeating that, also failed policies of the last 8 years.

    Defend your shitstained bill? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Defend Obama’s nominees?
    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Defend the 50 campaign promises he has broken?
    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Wash, Rinse, Repeat, Enjoy!

  123. Damnit Pink.

  124. Fuck I forgot it made the spaces mess up. Sorry man.

  125. TrollHammerâ„¢: ask for it by name.

    I prefer the orange version.

  126. Mr. Pink,
    Hammer yourself and it goes back to normal. For you.

  127. Hey and I was using it as an example of how things are in America

    so you be attack Mass and OR for trying to establish monitoring of your vehicle miles? you be demorat

  128. I never remember where I got it, geoffb. Hey, it’s been installed 200 times. Pretty neat.

  129. Now we all have to punch out Mr. Pink for frelling up the formatting. Thanks loads, pal.

  130. Hey, it’s been installed 200 times.

    Yeah, that amazes me too. Surely there aren’t that many people using it here.

    Stupid fascist girl is taking Roberts to task for actually paying attention to the law and the Constitution.

    Outmoded concepts, among the “smart set”.

    She’d just better hope that the people she’s trying to enslave never realize that two can play at that game.

  131. Jaysus, Mr. Pink, you broke the thread…

  132. She’s too skanky to tit or tat I think.

  133. Can’t Dan fix it just by trashing that one post?

  134. This thread seems to have taken a wide stance.

  135. Just adding a few spaces would be enough.

    Writing a line-wrap algorithm that’s robust enough to handle every situation is a surprisingly hard task, btw.

  136. SBP, my first attempt would be to just break up any “word” that was over a certain number of characters long (not counting whitespace of course) into smaller pieces. That would help some, anyway.

  137. So I mistakenly watched that ‘Body of Lies’ flick, bootleg of course, and it seems, according to our betters, that Muslims behead people because of Guantanamo Bay. And the CIA is evil. And incompetent. And now Hollywood can take a nice 4-8 year brake from slandering the country.

  138. I pity the folks who took a nap this afternoon and woke up to find every man, woman and child $30,000 deeper in debt. I know no one gave me a kiss on the face so maybe the democrats slipped in and kissed my ass.

  139. “Comment by Big D on 2/17 @ 8:41 pm #

    French Fries – Root Cause.

    I’m a little surprised no one had done that yet.”

    Because they didn’t want to be chased by a howling mob of pun haters, perhaps? Heh.

  140. Stupid fascist girl is taking Roberts to task for actually paying attention to the law and the Constitution.

    Laws are immaterial. I mean, the “stimulus” bill was being re-written virtually as it was being signed — when people pull that kind of shit, how serious are they about crafting a system of laws that are intended to be followed?

    They want rule by a Chosen Elite. They assume they’ll always be able to do the choosing.

  141. They assume they’ll always be able to do the choosing.

    Yes. They might want to look into what happened to the “intellectual” class in the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia… post-revolution.

  142. And now, we know that they plan to present another “stimulus” plan, they will be asking for AT LEAST $100,000,000,000 for the housing industry, countless billions for the automakers, and AT LEAST $2,000,000,000,000 for TARP2.

    And meya is a fucking mental midget.

  143. Well, JD, they’ve got to rush through these “stimulus” plans while they can. Lots of social engineering to accomplish.

  144. She’s a fascist mental midget JD what supports blacklisting and also she lies with an alarming facility. I think she might be a sociopath.

  145. I’m really angry at the dirty socialist for turning happyfeet into pissedofffeet. Normally he has a knack for wry and dry phrasing that makes me smile. When he’s irked, not so much.

    Barack ruined my free ice-cream!

  146. I know.

  147. cranky-d and happyfeet – The dirty little socialist fucks told us that the “stimulus” was an emergency, requiring immediate action or the whole world would collapse, and then their dirty little socialist overlord could not be bothered to read or sign the bill for 4 days? What gives?

  148. What gives, JD, is that he knows what’s in it that he cares about (the details don’t really matter) and that is more power to him and government in general. That’s what counts as a good thing in his world.

  149. Barack lies even more better than meya, JD. Here’s Baracky’s “disaster” – page two of PDF

    CBO expects the economy to begin a slow recovery in the second half of 2009 and to grow by a modest 1.5 percent in 2010 (see Table 1).

    Baracky’s “disaster” was that the economy might have recovered before he could pitch our little country into a dirty socialist abyss.

  150. Obama is working from the Alinsky playbook. Getting people in a panic makes them ripe for massive social changes, and that is what they’ve done and will continue to do. He knows things would eventually work out with no action, so action must be taken immediately. It was a mistake on his part to wait 4 days to sign it, but he needed to make it a public spectacle and a campaign stop because all he knows is campaigning.

  151. Oh, and he needed another vacation. Remember when the Leftists thought that was important?

  152. JD, it had been WEEKS since he’d gotten away. A guy needs a break.

  153. Carin – That dirty little social lying fuck is one hard worker.

  154. Carin – That dirty little socialist lying fuck is one hard worker.

    And I type too fast …

  155. You know that basketball doesn’t dribble itself …

  156. Basecatass = Thoresticle. No one likes you here thor, not because you are piece of shit. But because, you, like the dirty fuck socialist president, add nothing to the conversation or the well being of the Republic, for that matter.

    Baracky now wants to pay every deadbeat home owner $2,000 a yr to stay in their homes, that they can’t afford, anyway. Anyone one of the trolls want defend this?

    Please, we’re all ears.

  157. Remember all the bitching about Bush’s “vacations?” Now the media are strangely silent on the issue. I don’t remember Bush running out of the White House after being in office for less than a month.

  158. OTT – Taking from the responsible and giving to the irresponsible. It is Robin Hood writ large.

  159. JD – we are so fucked.

    The dirty socialist fuck president wants to abbrogate private contracts. Trolls – let me lead you down the nose to the logical conclusion of this shit-stained endeavour. Do you think this will:
    a) Cause lenders, in the future, to only lend only up to 50% of the appraised value of the house going forward
    b) charge extra for every 10% more you want to borrow, to offset costs of retro-spective “write-downs”
    c) spawn a new breed of class actions lawyers to exploit what is deemed secured and unsecured basis “market value”
    d) Lead to state legislation that makes morgages unique to their locality, hence removing ability for securitization and thus eventually monetary velocity?
    e) make an already illiquid market even more illiquid?
    f) All of the above?
    g) nothing?

    Whats next, the right to own land?

  160. Do you think you could work in a few “Marxist dipshit”s in here? I think they would go well.

  161. own land?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    That’s soooooooooo pre-Kelo.

    All you have is a temporary lease from the gov’t. Soon as someone offers the gov’t more….you’re outta there.

    I weep for the Republic daily.

  162. Pingback: More Alleged Assaultive Dead Chimp Cartoon Rage [Dan Collins]

Leave a Reply