John McCain’s presidential campaign has issued a statement regarding the controversial endorsement McCain received on Thursday:
“Yesterday, Pastor John Hagee endorsed my candidacy for president in San Antonio, Texas. However, in no way did I intend for his endorsement to suggest that I in turn agree with all of Pastor Hagee’s views, which I obviously do not.
I am hopeful that Catholics, Protestants and all people of faith who share my vision for the future of America will respond to our message of defending innocent life, traditional marriage, and compassion for the most vulnerable in our society.”
Bloggers like Josh Marshall and Andrew Sullivan are of course miffed at the brevity and lack of specificity. And I suspect that eventually, McCain will give an answer like that suggested by the Catholic League.
However, Marshall and Sullivan may have to elevate their level of irritation to “gobsmacked” once it sinks in that McCain’s response was not only vague, but in a press release (no video, no questions taken for McCain), issued at the end of Friday afternoon. Somewhere, Lanny Davis must be applauding, particularly given that the establishment media is already pointing its attention to the Democratic contests next Tuesday.
Rick Ellensburg, notorious sock-puppeteer, is trying to join in the high dudgeon, but keeps getting distracted by Jamie Kirchick, who writes that Ellensburg “really has little credibility on the subject of deeming which individuals are fit for mainstream support.”
(h/t Memeorandum.)
Comment by doubleplusundead on 2/29 @ 6:37 pm #
I like how all the nutroots are railing against Kirchick in the TNR comments.
Comment by Christopher Taylor on 2/29 @ 6:45 pm #
Why even respond? He should have just shrugged at it and said “everyone gets to vote in America.”
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 6:49 pm #
I think he disposed of it. Hagee’s not worth any more of his time I don’t think. Hagees are creepy though cause if there’s a controversy they dine out on that shit for years, and NPR licks that sort of thing up.
Comment by Carin on 2/29 @ 6:51 pm #
I’m Catholic … but strangely not outraged. You think my meter’s broken? But, I am (mildly) amused to have the liberals being “outraged” for my Catholic-self.
Comment by Good Lt. on 2/29 @ 7:15 pm #
You should read the comments at TNR – full, unabashed, lock-step support of Greenwald, smearing and dismissal of Kirchick, and full-throated LULZ all the way.
Reminds me of the last time an army of Gleens showed up to defend
himselftheir glorious Dear Leader.Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/29 @ 7:18 pm #
/begin transmission
Greetings, Past-people from the Shortlifes of the Life States of America of the Level III Branching Path Multiverse.
Well you have really messed in it this time.
It is the year of Life 2108 now and we send you greetings FROM HELL, as the post-apocalyptic biker world of the future has come to be called.
in ur year of 2008 John Sydney McCain in a desperate attempt to reconsolidate the devil’s bargain with the first theocons, (that Karl Rove, the Architect of All Evil, as he has come to be known), had drawn up, took Pastor John Hagee as his running mate.
Soon after, because of the advanced age at which he had achieved the presidency, President McCain began to evince the early onset warning signs of Alzheimers with senile dementia.
Alas, there were no neuronal therapy treatments available in the Life States of America because of the suppression of federaly funded basic research in ESCR, and President Bush’s persistant vetos of attempts to restart the devolving federal cell lines with “snowflake” embryos.
As soon as President McCain reached the “drooling cabbage” stage and was confined to bedrest with a feeding tube, Vice-president John Hagee seized the reins of power.
Because of a little know clause in “Terri’s Law”, President McCain could never be allowed to die…..and must contiue forever, vitually immortal, undead and yet not alive….degrading by millimeters.
Of course Pastor Hagee and the dispensationalists and leftbehinders that formed Hagee’s new Tribulation Party immediately ordered the bombing of Iran.
Although the ensuing firestorm did turn the Arabian penninsula into a sea of black glass, sadly, the Rapture did not ensue.
Shocked into near catatonia by the profound failure of his eschatolgy, Hagee and his Tribulation Party wideboiz took refuge in luxury FEMA bombshelters beneath Denver International Airport while the Life States of America…well…burned.
In revenge for the Iranian bombing and the destruction of MENA (their chief oil supplier) the Chinese began a campaign of carpet bombing that promised to leave no stone upon a stone in the Life States of America.
At this point past-people, we shortlifes have only one thing to say…..
HAPPY NOW?!?!?!
/end transmission
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 7:33 pm #
I always knew them Chinese was trouble.
Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/29 @ 7:35 pm #
oh feets.
i lurvs u.
reallee i do.
Comment by MC on 2/29 @ 7:37 pm #
Obamanishiilliterati… {yawn}.
Comment by Mona on 2/29 @ 7:48 pm #
How amusing. Y’all can’t stand it that Greenwald — in conjunction with other bloggers, even including Ann Althouse — have catapulted the heinous views of McCain’s main preacher man into the MSM.
Endless spewing about Greenwald’s “sock-puppetry” at declning blogs such as this one, have had zero effect on Greenwald’s ability to affect the national political discussion. But continue on in your incestuous,increasingly marginalized echo chamber ad hominem ranting. If it, you know, makes you feel better.
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 7:52 pm #
Um, actually no one here defends Hagee, not that I’ve read. He’s fat and ill-dressed and a lot bonkers. I’m not sure what your point is.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 2/29 @ 7:52 pm #
If we’re so unimportant, Moaner, why are you here?
And nishi — seriously, babe, get over the bigotry.
Comment by Carin on 2/29 @ 7:55 pm #
Endless spewing about Greenwald’s “sock-puppetry†at declning blogs such as this one, have had zero effect on Greenwald’s ability to affect the national political discussion. B
I hear they’ve read his book on the Senate floor! SQUEEL!
Comment by Mona on 2/29 @ 7:55 pm #
Insane Person and Friend of McCain, on the Glenn Beck Show:
Yeah, a President who is tight with that idiot is who should have the hand on the button, conducting foreign policy, and answering the red phone at 3 a.m.
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 7:58 pm #
He’s mentally ill, Mona. You probably shouldn’t read too much of him. He might could get in your head.
Comment by Carin on 2/29 @ 7:59 pm #
Yeah, a President who is tight with that idiot is who should have the hand on the button, con
Honestly, this is getting really boring.
Comment by B Moe on 2/29 @ 8:00 pm #
Yeah, a President who is tight with that idiot…
By all appearances, Mona, I don’t think McCain even knew who that idiot was before the shit hit the fan, but keep right on affecting the MSM. You rock!
Comment by Carin on 2/29 @ 8:01 pm #
I hear Hagee married the McCains, baptized his kids, and blessed his house.
OH RIGHT, he didn’t. That was Wright with Obama.
Comment by serr8d on 2/29 @ 8:05 pm #
Mona: A frontline tin soldier in that Army of Gleens?
McCain will have people answering the phone at 3:00 A.M. If we’re lucky, it’ll be Karl Rove.
Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/29 @ 8:06 pm #
oooh
mona apparates
can Jeff be far behind?
Comment by jdm on 2/29 @ 8:10 pm #
Endless spewing about Greenwald’s “sock-puppetry†at declning blogs such as this one, have had zero effect on Greenwald’s ability to affect the national political discussion.
So why worry? What are you doing here? Either your religio-political mania won’t allow you to accept people with differences of opinion or you are, in fact, worried that this so-called declining blog is affecting the national political discussion.
Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/29 @ 8:12 pm #
I don’t think McCain even knew who that idiot was
yah BMoes…….mccains handlers shud have vetted that maniac.
toolate……
i think Hagee was supposed to woo the theocons away from Dobson and Robertson and huck.
hmm….i think i was evil to Greenwald in one of my MPD toons……Speaker-to-animals maybe.
Comment by MC on 2/29 @ 8:16 pm #
Moaner see.
And please be sure to read:
From this post – you know, this one.
Oh, and I hear your mommy calling.
Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/29 @ 8:17 pm #
our message of defending innocent life, traditional marriage, and compassion for the most vulnerable in our society.[ie, brainstemmed organ sacks]â€Â
yup, theres that snakin over to the theocon side.
such a bad choice.
mccain is just as bad as bilary.
doomed.
Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/29 @ 8:19 pm #
how did mccain vote on terris law?
schiavo is gonna come up.
i feels it.
Comment by Mona on 2/29 @ 8:24 pm #
To those wondering why I am here: I try to rise above it, but like many or most human beings enjoy the occasional schaudenfreud.
McCain courted and sought Hagee’s endorsement, touts it, and has photo ops with him. Never mind that Hagee is a deranged bigot who only wants war in the ME so that Jews are either killed or converted after the Anti-Christ and Second Coming, End Times stuff all gets rolling.
But I shall leave you all now to your intramural ….musings.
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 8:24 pm #
Schiavos aren’t really all that common I don’t think. Maybe a lesbian schiavo with a life partner battling the parents? That might could jumpstart it back up, but mostly it’s been done to death.
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 8:27 pm #
Hagee is a deranged bigot. That’s so duh. I’ve heard so much about you and here you are and you’re not bringing your A game I don’t think.
Comment by Visionsthrougheyes(another galaxy) on 2/29 @ 8:29 pm #
McCain really can’t go around saying we are in hell and have chosen lucifer. God won’t come back cause we did. We see in our sleep. We hear in our sleep. We had God’s bodies here that we sold to lucifer. So, the real answer is to escape the second death and cheat lucifer. Since we cannot escape this life by ending it, a sin, all existence would be ceased at once after response using Satan’s device, God’s will.
Clinton(latest offers and deals, the revolution) wouldn’t do it and chose to use lucifer’s eye instead of Satan’s device(which is perfect) go back to China and explain he was (a) democrat(ic), what America is, changing the future of America. Bush and Condi did the same thing, hoping for Satan’s device, but finding it had been ruined by lucifer’s eye. It’s actually better for us because the purpose of the device is to end all existence(including neutron stars and neutrinos with no mass), by collection, and Bush might have made a bad deal like his dad.
The tribulation is existence, which God damned us with in perfection. The rapture is a lie, unless it is Satan’s truth.
God has given us the Obamasiah!!!!!(and his preacher)
One of these things ain’t like the other.
The multiverse is an excuse to continue lucifer’s existence that should be ceased by Satan. Cold fusion was the same game. Fission would be the answer to Satan’s device. Of course, they made the movie with the robot men with fission eyes trying to kill mankind as they travelled through space using lucifer to continue their exisence. Then theirs the terminator who would only kill one person travelling through time.
Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/29 @ 8:38 pm #
i have to agree with Mona that Hagee was an idiot choice to court the theocons with.
mccains campaign managers are as clueless as bilary’s.
Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/29 @ 8:40 pm #
mona didnt u used to have a different name?
like a tragic greek name when i usta comment at greenwalds?
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 8:42 pm #
nishi, at #30 you just mostly echo the duh. The bar for you is set way higher than that. It’s your gift and your curse.
Comment by cjd on 2/29 @ 8:45 pm #
“mona didnt u used to have a different name?
like a tragic greek name when i usta comment at greenwalds?”
Narcissus?
Comment by B Moe on 2/29 @ 8:48 pm #
Okay then! Let’s have a Mona and nishi cheer off!
READY!
OH!-KAY!
OH!-BAH!-MA!
Come on! Let’s hear some SPIRIT!
Comment by Al Maviva on 2/29 @ 8:50 pm #
Mona, that’s not the half of it. Not only is Hagee, after one meeting with McCain, McCain’s “main preacher man,” but I also hear John McCain was actually sucking the devil’s cock at a local strip club mere hours after meeting with Hagee, after which he went and personally performed an abortion at a local Planned Parenthood clinic. As he left the clinic he was heard to curse “America and its Founding Fathers” three times, then he danced on a flaming copy of the Constitution. Then after that his aids packed him off onto his bus to hang out with democrats and moderates, and a fart that Ted Kennedy ripped in 1982 but which has been hanging around Washington ever since, and is in fact a senior Dem advisor on the Clean Air Act.
So yeah we folks who you and The Gleeening read out of the conservative / libertarian faiths are pretty bummed out about the whole deal.
Comment by jdm on 2/29 @ 9:04 pm #
Goddamit, Al, you did you have to reveal everything? Now Mona’s schadenfreud will know no bounds
Oh, man, Rove is going to be so mad.
Comment by JD on 2/29 @ 9:17 pm #
Mona, you ignorant slut. Thank you for coming by. Your fucking sycophancy is precious. And sad. And funny.
Comment by JD on 2/29 @ 9:20 pm #
Al – That was freakin’ awesome, though I wish you hadn’t given away all the secrets.
Comment by Mona on 2/29 @ 9:23 pm #
@nishizonoshinji
I don’t wish to appear to be violating my assertion that I was done commenting here, so I won’t reply to any of the comments to my substantive points. But I think you ask a fair (tangential) question, and did so politely. So for that reason I will make this actually final comment.
I commented (and sometimes posted) at Greenwald’s pre-Salon blog under the pseudonym “Hypatia.”
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 9:26 pm #
Oh. I thought it had been something pretentious.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 2/29 @ 9:26 pm #
Probably not even Mona. A mona moby? Saaaadddd….But, whoever it was, wow, very, very stupid. Hagee isn’t pushing anything. He believes in this stuff. It may be seem stupid and such, but he isn’t pushing it.
Comment by cjd on 2/29 @ 9:30 pm #
“So for that reason I will make this actually final comment.”
Until your master is called on his bullshit the next time.
Comment by Karl on 2/29 @ 9:37 pm #
Mona came here to troll because lying about what is written here accomplishes so little at the aptly-named unqualified offerings, which has a fraction of the traffic of PW.
Take a look at how HUGE the Hagee story is… not.
Comment by JD on 2/29 @ 10:15 pm #
Mona – Please don’t leave. Hyapatia … wasn’t that the name of a famous porn star? Sunstantive points? Hagee is a kook. Check. Pretty much everything else you and your master just made up, or are projecting onto others.
Comment by Pablo on 2/29 @ 10:49 pm #
Same as it ever was.
Oh, my. That’s only funny because it’s true.
Comment by cjd on 2/29 @ 11:12 pm #
Pablo,
Torquemada? That’s good, but Andrei Vyshinsky seems more apt.
Comment by Mona on 2/29 @ 11:43 pm #
Ok, I’m in total violation of my pledge to stop commenting — sue me. But you can’t say Stephen Bainbridge is liberal, or a Pauliac (which Greenwald isn’t either, all the nonsense above notwithstanding), yet Bainbridge endorses Greenwald on l’affaire Hagee/McCain, and indeed goes even further.
So, take that, y’all. (And remember, I said I’d stop commenting, and then didn’t — this is a huge, major, horrific indictment of my character.) Bring it up whenever possible.
Comment by Pablo on 2/29 @ 11:49 pm #
Mona, it’s par for the course with you. Just another day in the ’sphere. It’s not like you got caught being 5 ostensibly other people defending your positions and singing your praises. It’s boring and trivial, but then, I’m being redundant.
Comment by happyfeet on 2/29 @ 11:51 pm #
Stephen Bainbridge is, however, a ponce. An affable ponce, but c’mon.
Comment by daleyrocks on 3/1 @ 12:05 am #
At least Jeff lets Mona comment here instead of getting all pissy and shutting down threads like she does over at her deservedly overlooked blog.
Comment by maggie katzen on 3/1 @ 12:14 am #
why do they always think we all think alike? ie: here’s somebody on your side…. so… agree with him!!!
Comment by happyfeet on 3/1 @ 12:17 am #
About law, that’s one thing, but after that he’s goshawfully just rarefied. Like for sure if he gave me all his cds I bet I wouldn’t really want to rip any of them.
Comment by Karl on 3/1 @ 12:28 am #
To provide context for people just joining, Mona wrote at UQ that I was claiming that Hagee’s views were so nothing, despite the fact that in the post she linked, I wrote that McCain should disassociate himself from Hagee’s views.
In this thread, she continues from the same demonstrably false premise. It is not the first time that Mona has lied about what is written here. I suspect it won’t be the last. It is who she is and what she does.
Comment by happyfeet on 3/1 @ 12:31 am #
She seems to be kind of just phoning it in though. Maybe she needs a vitamin water, or has she always been so verveless?
Comment by Karl on 3/1 @ 12:35 am #
BTW, cjd did not have to wait long for that prediction to come true.
Comment by sashal on 3/1 @ 5:24 am #
Karl.
Kirchick is nasty character, typical proto-communist, aggressively striving to change and subjugate certain countries and nationalities to his likings.
He makes Jews look like always suspicious ,afraid of their own shadow people…
Comment by Pablo on 3/1 @ 6:32 am #
sashal, is Kirchick doing all that subjugating from his perch at TNR, or does he have an underground lair/control center he does that from?
‘feets, this is Mona’s A game. The bird does not sing because she has an answer, she sings because she has a song. Mona’s song is an oldie.
Comment by sashal on 3/1 @ 7:04 am #
Pablo,
he wish he had(lair/control).
I’ve seen that type of characters before.
Eager to shove their ideology down our throats , members of the komsomol or the local party organization…
Comment by sashal on 3/1 @ 7:14 am #
Pablo, contrary to many of you guys here,
I have acquired 7th sense to everything with even remote smackings of communism , voluntarism, authoritarianism, which I detect from miles away.
To everybody and everything who/which puts ideology ahead of pragmatism and realism.
To anybody with shrill perception of anti-semitism as well(remember , that USSR had anti-semitism as the subtle government policy)
Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/1 @ 7:22 am #
Not that there’s anything wrong with a little OCD.
No need to respond, Mona. Really. I’m not even paying attention.
Comment by B Moe on 3/1 @ 8:10 am #
Mona – Please don’t leave. Hyapatia …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia_of_Alexandria
Hypatia rebuffed a suitor by showing him her menstrual rags, claiming they demonstrated that there was “nothing beautiful” about carnal desires.
That’s our Mona.
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