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God, I know I’m sick of this shit.
Is Nicholas Burns gay?
Erm . . . what, hf?
yup, soes everyone else, dan.
but Hagee and the leftbehinders are fresh and juicy.
Obama’s pastor’s a racist, nishi.
Obama has a racist pastor and Nicholas Burns is very likely gay.
Oops. Nope. He just sounds and looks gay I guess. My bad. Maybe he’s a late bloomer.
so?
ppl have heard that schitck a whole bunch.
all the Farrakhan/NoI stuff.
its old.
Hagee is just …..gobsmakingly raw.
how does mccain get out of it?
saying well, Wright is worse and hes O’s pastor..
doesnt even impact the shields.
i think Mccain better repudiate Hagee vociferously and take Huck for a vp.
You know what would be great? If someone presented that screed point-by-point to Obama, asking him to respond?
Wouldn’t that be great, nishi?
Dan, that does not bother nishi one bit. Her man’s the man with the slight tan. He could be shitting on babies for all she cares. This is a single issue campaign for nishi. And the “messiah” is on the right side of that issue.
Intelligence is an accident, Nishi, but stupidity is a choice.
Hagee is just too repulsive even to repudiate overmuch. It’s a self-limiting story. Hagee gets on tv and it’s too unbelievable a doof like that has any for real influence.
Not that it was remotely surprising but the local DNC press release agent (the Cleveland Plain Dealer) actually devoted maybe 10-11 paragraphs to Wright and his church before this Tuesday’s primary. The word “Farrakhan” came up once and mention was made of some “controversial statements” from the good Rev’und….but I guess they ran out of space before they got around to printing any of them.
The rest of the front section was mostly devoted to whining about how Clinton and Obama failed to specifically mention anything they would do that would benefit Cleveland. It’s now to the president’s job to get rid of a backwards-looking city council and school board, apparently.
but it wont happen dan.
…unless u do it!
hey…..letter to obama.
good viral meme.
do it dan.
thing is……i value intelligence and problem solving ability over all….good old IQ and g.
so far, O’s campaign is demonstrating intelligence and psa.
bilary’s and mccain’s, not so much.
otherwise, like Priss said.
“then we’re stupid and we’ll all die.”
hf – that nndb thing is kinda freaky, like scary freaky. Hope you work it out with Mr. Burns.
Interestingly, Hagee is listed in nndb, Pastor Wright is not. Not that this actually means anything.
Can anyone take the time to transcribe Pastor Wright’s list? Sounds pretty much like the standard leftist political pablum, which perhaps begs the question: What’s he the pastor of?
Is he the pastor of the nanny-state religion?
I couldn’t hear any page turning in a Bible or anything like that.
i value intelligence and problem solving ability over all….good old IQ and g.
so far, O’s campaign is demonstrating intelligence and psa.
Well, except for the problem of spelling. And grammar. And not recognizing a snake oil salesman when he blows in your ear.
Right. Nicholas is so not my friend. He’s a very confused man. Anyway, did you see that bicurious tie?
B Moes i find it just stunning that mccains handlers didnt vet this maniac.
and equally stunning that mccain hasnt totally repudiated him.
he wont get any theocon vote goodness out of this at all.
it will hurrt him big time.
sane ppl will run away right into O’s hopeychangey arms.
attempting to pint out that Wright an Farrrackhan are worse is a bad stategy.
the MSM is gonna focus on Hagee like a ruby laser.
Actually, I think it’s an excellent strategy.
i find it just stunning that mccains handlers didnt vet this maniac.
Why the hell should they vet him? They didn’t go to him, they didn’t hire him. He is some minor league TV preacher that nobody outside of Texas had ever heard of, he comes out in support of McCain and McCain says thank you, then when he realizes the guy is a little wacked, he says he doesn’t agree with everything he says. What the hell is he supposed to do, burn a fucking effigy of Hagee on TV or something?
You know what was pretty cool? Most of the women with excellent breasts moved on in American Idol last night.
Anyway, thanks for drawing attention to this thread, nish.
Breasts. Bicurious ties. Burning effigies. What’s with you people?
The shape of the ancient Greek beta is the lips in profile. It also looks like . . . and . . . . Anyway, we like labial, hereabouts.
Ah. Brio.
hf – Bicurious tie? I just chalked it up to the Frenchy french education.
It must be Friday.
I flagged that, definitely. Still, he’s got three kids. Could be he’s overcompensating though.
“I am hopeful that Catholics, Protestants and all people of faith who share my vision for the future of America will respond to our message of defending innocent life, traditional marriage, and compassion for the most vulnerable in our society.â€Â
ok….look at what he is trying to do.
buzzwords; innocent life==proLIFE!, traditional (not gay) marriage, compassion for brainstemmed organ sacks(schiavio).
hagee is the wrong person.
mccain is trying to swing right to woo the theocons (1/3 of the repub electorate), but dobson and robertson hate him.
he way backed the wrong horse.
the MSM will have a festival with this guy.
The MSM can’t do much with him, nishi. No one wants to look at that on their tv, and he’s too much the simpleton to command extensive print coverage.
buzzwords; innocent life==proLIFE!, traditional (not gay) marriage, compassion for brainstemmed organ sacks(schiavio).
And still you doubt her genius.
Hagee is not “a little wacked”.
Hagee is seriously insane, and is out there all over the media with books and youtubes that prove it.
linkage, dude.
If this is the type of silliness we can expect from the Left, this is going to be a long year. The gleens and his legions of sock puppets are out in force making shit up. The media is like hodeans PR arm. This is going to be a long year.
I saw the link, he believes Armageddon is coming. He specifically denied doing anything to promote it, because it is up to God. I know lots of people who believe this, nishi, some of them are even friends of mine. He said we should consider attacking Iran, he did not promote it. I agree with him, nothing should be off the table. You want to play this up like the nutroots and blow it all out of proportion, then go right ahead, but you are making a fool out of yourself. Your own bigotry and self-interest are making you irrational.
B Moes u are in denial.
did u see the link with the whore of babylon and the cup of jew blood in her hand and the hilter refs?
omg.
Sounds kinda like Farrakhan, then?
doesnt matter if it does.
u cant tar O with Farrakhan for some reason.
but Hagee is gonna stick to mccain like glue.
superglue
nishi, B Moe’s right. This was just a dealio for the Texas primary, and Hagee’s brand of kookiness is old hat to everyone in Texas. Outside of Texas, the story is there’s this kooky Texas preacher what endorsed McCain who made a statement distancing himself. The MSM is not ready to just drop their meme that conservatives are abandoning the Republican party to try to sell the idea that McCain is speaking in tongues and eagerly awaiting the return of Jesus Christ. They’re not going to rally those people to McCain. They’re obnoxious and deceitful, not stupid.
I think that since nishi has endorsed Barry
HusseinObama, then Osama should have to answer for all of the coocooforcocoapuffs ideas that nishi has spewed. How much you want to bet that Barry O will throw his pastor under the bus if the media actually starts committing acts of journalism?admit it….u guyz didnt know what the leftbehinders were when i linked them on Karls thread.
the MSM is gonna schooooool u.
nishi, half the people here is Texans it seems like. Leftbehinders are so over and done anyway. Da Vinci Code knock-offs are the thing now. And the chick with the alphabet thing.
Prove it. Neither Hagee nor Wright is a weel-known figure.
feets, the MSM IS stupid, deceitful and obnoxious.
and purely motivated by profit.
McCain has to do more than give out this type of statement about this hate monger. Hagee views are unacceptable. Period. Full stop.
Why McCain is accepting the endorsement of this loon mystifies me.
And I’ve been supporting Mac when he was dead in the water.
Nish you own a gravity bong don’t you?
Karl, the nation of islam schitck.
admit it….u guyz didnt know what the leftbehinders were when i linked them on Karls thread.
I still don’t know what they are, nishi, and I really don’t fucking care. This is not my first election, and I grew up with some backwoods ass Christians that make Hagee look professorial. My Grandmother used to take me to a church that one of my distant cousins preached at where people spoke in tongues and had fits in the aisles. This is not a big deal.
Hagee can’t touch Farrakhan for wackiness. Not even if you put Wright in with Hagee would that balance out Calypso Louie.
That said, none of those abovementioned Ministers represent any God I would recognize, so they can all blow each other as far as I’m concerned. They’re all linked with bicurious ties…
nishi, I spend my days documenting audience loss sans editorial changes. They are driven by more than profit. The NYT numbers are unprecedented and staggering, really. NPR is driving audience away in droves. Newsweeklies are hanging in there though, but a lot is their success with doctor’s offices etc., not that they’ve successfully tacked with their content to suit a changing marketplace.
Oy my G-d, can you see what you people are doing here? You are campaign pawns, dutifully responding and spasmodically reacting to the stimuli tossed your way by a cynical apparatus that has played everyone before. And it will metasticise across the internet, which is the most fertile and febrile ground for it to spread.
Who the hell should care about “spiritual advisors” or “advocates” or any other entities removed from the individual. I don’t concern myself whether or not my chiropracter is also into goat sacrifice; I expect him to interact with me on my terms. I would further expect people to judge my on my own merits or decifiencies, and not on those of my associates. However, I realize taint is a trait with the right. Please, get over it.
BTW, Dan, nice find. Perhaps Russert can ask the O if the bit about the US creating the AIDS virus is one of those things he disagrees with.
Which is why you’re against race-based affirmative action, right?
Barack Schwartz Obama
Thanks, Karl. I’ve asked Allah Pundit to pick it up and run with it.
Good point, Karl. The MSM can’t get their Hagee on without making Wright fair game. They won’t risk their little buddha like that. Golden child ain’t ready for the rough stuff.
Many, many Black people think that Blacks cannot be racist. Really.
I’m sorry, I reflexively said “the right.” I meant everyone.
In this case, Obama joined Wright’s church, not vice versa, and remains there. And the pastor=chiropractor analogy sorta breaks down when you realize that religion is not supposed to be “service” (though I won’t be asking you for referrals now that I know goat sacrifice isn’t a red flag for you). And O is not just a member of the church. His book “The Audacity of Hope” is named after a Wright sermon. Yhe theme for his keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention — comes from Wright. The speech he gave in Fort Worth to parents — blogged here earlier today — is right out of Wright. The list goes on and on. Watch that clip and ask yourself how you would feel if Pres. Bush was seeking to listen to something that wacky — but right-wing — every Sunday.
And the most cutting jibe of all, Democrat.
I’d feel highly discomfited, Karl.
BTW, Dan, I don’t see AP running with it without some offsetting Hagee. I s’pose he might do that, just for the Atheistic victory lap.
Wait a second. William F. Buckley founded the modern conservative movement and in doing so one of his first goals was to drive out the religious bigots and sectarian absolutists from the movement.
Now, I’m not saying that McCain is allowing them to return. I am not saying that his informal association with this Hagee fellow is comparable to Obama’s more personal relationship with religious bigots. The latter is far more troubling.
But in order to have clean hands here – and with the press the way it is we have to be completely clean – we need to denounce Hagee as much as we do Obama’s pastor.
Besides, as Buckley would say, it’s the right thing to do anywah.
hf,
In the NYT profile of Wright, it’s pretty clear that the two have agreed that O may need to pretend to abandon Wright for the general.
Well, AP already did the Hagee bit, Karl. Something like, McCain Accepts Anti-Catholic Preacher’s Endorsement.
Steve, I agree. And I’ve whacked Hagee a couple times, and Karl has, as well.
Not until McCain actually starts attending Hagee’s church will he be considered responsible for anything that Hagee might do or say.
He would have to do what Obama has done: made a conscious decision to start (and keep) attending a church run by a rabid racist like (say) Jeremiah Wright.
You can’t claim that an unsolicited endorsement from a minor figure that McCain had probably never heard of (and if I hadn’t lived in Texas for many years, I’d never have heard of him, either) is somehow so much worse than actually sitting and listening and applauding and returning to hear more.
Like Obama has done.
Week after week.
For YEARS.
But spin away. I hear it’s good exercise.
The point is that I cannot patrol pre-emptively those who would support a candidte. I suppose the Wright connection might need finessing. I further suppose that Clinton and McCain’s campaign will also need damage control. My point was merely that with its immediacy and ketchup-stain permanancy, these kind of slurs stick harder and longer.
@ #66
I love it when you talk dirty.
@69
That’s so Judas, Karl. Maybe he is The One.
Many, many Black people think that Blacks cannot be racist. Really.
Many of their Prog minders and tenders, too. I wonder how many Blacks end up in prison because of oso ‘progressive’ permission. At least Blacks can’t commit hate crimes – yet.
What drumwaster said.
SteveMG – Where are you finding anyone supporting Hagee round here?
I hope Cindy and John wern’t married by the Grand Wizzard.
Si they puede. And the way they’ll do it is exactly how they’re already starting to do it:
Look at this double standard whereby McCain can roll openly with all these Jeezo-hatemongers without reproach from the right, while the media! can’t stop condemning Obama for his non-association with Farrakhan! (…and Wright) Look at it!!! Farrakhaaaaaaan!
Here’s the cool trick in that: The referenced torrent of big-media condemnations of Obama re: Farrakhan will exist only inside this formulation, a mentioned thing that isn’t happening — except on the Republican-friendly margins of public attention, so the peddlers of this storyline will have a couple known-byline alibi-articles that the people who want to believe them will accept as proof of any- and everything.
The even cooler trick is that it’ll lock in the “meme” [puke] that condemnations of Obama re: Wright are subsets of these already overplayed condemnations re: Farrakhan before any of them even happen.
And so they won’t happen.
Well, now that we’ve established that Blacks belong in prison because of progressive permission, our work here is done. Huzzah!!
damn. But, yeah. I see it. But you know what? Fucker’s middle name is Hussein.
What’s needed here is for McCain to let that famous temper loose.
Outline:
1) He (McCain) doesn’t believe as Hagee does.
2) Hagee believes some nasty things will be done by God, not people in the near future.
3) Hagee doesn’t believe that anything people can do will change that in any way. His opinion (Yes, Catholics, Protestants have the ex cathedra distinction) is that a war with Iran might; his belief allows for the probability that a war with Iran would be a symptom of the bad shit (#2) starting.
4) None of Hagee’s beliefs call on people to do anything whatever except get right with God so they’ll have a chance of surviving the bad shit. In particular, Hagee’s beliefs, being based on Christian theology, say that behavior is symptomatic — anybody willing to cooperate in doing bad shit (to anybody, including Jews, Muslims, and nishi) is automatically revealed as being not right with God.
Summary: Hagee doesn’t want to kill anybody, Wright does. McCain doesn’t attend Hagee’s church; Obama’s a member of Wright’s. McCain doesn’t agree with most of Hagee’s beliefs; Obama quotes Wright’s (at the Democratic convention, no less.) McCain never heard of Hagee before last week; Obama lists Wright as one of his primary advisors and influences.
Going postal with that against one of the main offenders — one of the CBS jerks, for example — would jump McCain ten points.
Regards,
Ric
It’s a perfect circle! Like a carousel, but fewer ponies and more cattle.
Ric, you are bloviating. Give a direct cite where Wright is calling for direct and actionable blood. Otherwise, you’re another blowhard tool caught up in the hysteria.
Liberals threaten riots all the time if Obama loses, cynn. It’s very believable just the way it is.
Are you threatening me little Obama person?
No, I’m just saying. It would be bad.
the MSM is gonna schooooool u
In much the same way as the IJN schooled the USN at Midway.
Kaga, Akagi, Hiryu, Soryu.
Sunk, sunk, sunk, sunk.
In nishi’s defense, the MSM has already done schooled us. Hi, McCain, lookin’ good, and Hick’s a household name. Anyhoo, did we learn?
schooled
you?
In nishi’s defense
Quick, Hap’, who won the Series in ’44?
I have no idea. Is that trickery? Was it like called off for war or something?
Oh. St. Louis Cardinals. I googled.
I’ve had that suspicion about Nishi for a while now.
Oh, what? Well then, who did you mean?
No, cynn. I don’t do that, as a policy — look it up yourself. You’ll find it difficult. Hagee’s sermons are all over YouTube. Where are Wright’s?
I agree with you; we should be debating policy. But there’s no policy to debate! Only McCain is even offering anything that looks like policy and proposals, and that only as platitude. Obama’s speeches are full of hopeyness and changitude, William Jennings Bryan reborn as Dr. Feelgood; to the extent he offers anything substantive it’s a repudiation of what Democrats have stood for for the entire life of the Party.
Give me some policy and I’ll debate it. In the meantime, there’s what you might call meta-policy — the attempt by Democrats and their Press stooges to break up the Reagan coalition by demonizing Christians and insisting that candidates are only acceptable if they repudiate Christian ideals and theology. Hagee’s an easy target, a fat little fraudster with a Millenialist message whose congregation comes for the delicious thrills of a horror movie they make in their own minds — a Red State tradition that goes back to the Founding Fathers or earlier. Not Brother Love; the other one. (Note that for me, personally, any whiff of Millenialism and I’m outa there. Jesus taught that people then alive would see the last days. If He could get it wrong, mere humans have no chance. “No man knoweth the hour of my coming; no, not one.”)
But contemptible as he is, nowhere in Hagee’s teachings is any call for any human being to do anything nasty to any other, regardless of race, creed, color, national origin, allegiance, employment, or bibliography, nor is there any designation of anyone or any group as the Man Keeping Them Down and thereby worthy of contempt, censure, or active resistance. If there were, he’d be preaching to maybe twenty-five people at an independent Pentecostal church made of warped pine boards fifteen miles from Mena, Arkansas, and working as a welder the rest of the week to pay the bills. The contrast with Wright’s teachings could not be more stark, if you pay attention to what the respective preachers are saying and not to the ignorant and hostile paraphrases you will see in the public media.
So it is an issue, and an important one: Will ethical and moral principles derived from Christian theology be an acceptable input to the American political process, or not? Nishi declares not, and justifies her profession using the oldest evasion: experimenting on people is not nice, so what you do is define your experimental subjects as “not people”. Me, I think there are enough revenants still lurching about to affect the process if nothing else, else where did Huckabee come from? McCain could pick up just about all of Huckabee’s supporters by lashing out at the MSM, as I suggested above. The question before the House is whether the gain would be better than the loss of the nishis, and since I think the nishis and moonbats are gone for good it’s a question of whether a positive quantity is greater than zero.
Regards,
Ric
wow. That was cogent.
And yet you post the comments you do here. What, are you on vacation from this intelligence-valuing, or do you not have the slightest clue what the word means?
Intelligence is also the ability to collect information, examine it critically, and arrive at an assessment that reflects as closely as you are able, objective reality. I have yet to see evidence of this in any of your input here. Instead you posture, dancing around as though footwork is a suitable substitute for brilliance.
You are a poseur. If you are as intelligent as you make yourself out to be, try acting like it. I promise to be astonished and impressed.
I wish they (MSM) would go after Hagee, but they wont because He is what they fear the most- A White Christian Male that is ready and able to defend himself with intelligent enthusiasm.
All this ignorant slandering and repudiation doesn’t change his message on wit, but it does say a lot about you.
He’s also ready and able to eat Crisco out of the tub, looks like.
Nuh uh. Hey. I never knew David’s dad’s name was Jesse.
Yup. And his middle name was Hussein, but we’re not s’posed to talk about that.
You finally snapped a little there in #93, didn’t you McGehee?
Admit it, McGehee. It felt kind of good. Clensing, if you will.
Senor Locke – Tremendously insightful as always. Problem is, we already know how this will play out. All Republicans and all conservatives will have the words and actions of individuals within their supporters hung around their head, and be forced to answer for everything. Barry Fucking O, on the other hand will continue to be allowed to simply ignore the bigots and anti-semites he associates with. That is how it has played out every time, why should we expect this to be any different?
The problem I have with nishi’s various observations isn’t that they never occurred to me, it’s that they occurred to me (ok: yes, with different wording. But I think that’s a plus) about 25 years ago. Difference is that I didn’t, then, parade about as if I were the first person ever to have made those particular observations.
Oh, and there’s no such thing as “leftbehinders”. Your efforts to quoin a new meme have been largely unsuccessful, nishi.
“So it is an issue, and an important one: Will ethical and moral principles derived from Christian theology be an acceptable input to the American political process, or not?”
Well, it was good enough for Thomas Jefferson.
hmm…perhaps im so horrified at wat i saw that i am overreacting.
i honestly cant believe that mccain should accept any kind of connection to that vile ideology, however tenuous.
but he’s desperate to suck up to the theocons…i showed u what will happen in the general.
mccain is looking for theocon support without taking huck as vp, is all.
again, praps mainstream theocons dont find hagee and the dispensationalists as gobsmackingly awful as i do, but im pretty sure the more exposure they get the more ppl will be appalled.
and i do think mccain lost any part of the jewish vote when he accepted hagees support.
i guess this is a huge difference between you and me.
when i saw the youtube of hagee running around with a cue stick pointing at the whore and the beast and cup of jew blood…his fat jiggling…..i was instantly filled with incredulous, horrified revulsion on so many levels.
praps it wont affect everyone like that.
but wat psycho says is true…the MSM wont treat O’s support from Farrakhan and Wright the same way. partly because of the black thing, partly because NoI is oldhat, and we heard their schitck lotsa times.
it just doesnt have that OMG teh horror! that u get off the really fresh stuff that hasnt been overexposed yet.
and….mccain did accept hagee’s support…i think he is glad to have it even after Dobson and Robertson.
praps hagee doesnt look so strange to theocons…..but he is gonna look very strange indeed indeed to independants and non-theocon republicans like me.
and the MSM and the left are gonna capitalize on that.
u think mccain acceping hagee’s support is an opportunity to point out farrakhan an wright…but actually it will be used as misdirection, sleight of hand to draw attention away from those connections.
all eyes will drawn to the freakshow.
now! im going snoboarding.
have a supernice day.
lurvs u dan, feets.
slart, u not so much.
;)
Oh, and there’s no such thing as “leftbehindersâ€Â.
Cool, for awhile there I was devastated that I might not actually know everything.
oh one more thing.
Jefferson was a Freemason.
Jefferson was a Freemason.
He was also a Christian. Who wrote a personal interpretation of the Bible.
What you seem to be missing, nishi, is that McCain has a long established persona and he really doesn’t need to explain himself to most of America. He just needs to shore up support in a couple of demographics. No one is going to seriously equate him to Hagee.
Barry, OTOH, is that blank slate you’re trying to color
in all hopeychangeful, but you aren’t going to be the only one with a crayon. Lots of people are going to be looking at who filled in the final drawing.
“Comment by nishizonoshinji on 3/1 @ 7:52 am #
oh one more thing.
Jefferson was a Freemason.”
May be.
He was also a deeply committed Christian.
“Jefferson, although no churchgoer,was a sincere Christian, “a real Christian,” as he called himself. He did not oppose the church bu certain churchmen. He fully accepted the moral principles of Jesus, whom he regarded as one of the greatest figures in history. What Jefferson rejected was sectarianism.”
-Saul K. Padover, Jefferson
And yet you profess to be a Muslim.
I’m glad that nishi has confirmed that the MSM works for the DNC and the Democrats couldn’t get elected without the MSM’s efforts.
#110
??????
A deist. Yes. A christian in a way you’re familiar with………………nope. A scientist , you say. Interesting.
hehe, really i gtg inna minute.
yup, freemasons have personal religions, but they believe religion should be PRIVATE.
jefferson NEVER infused HIS religion into the constitution.
separation of church and state was pretty imperative for those guyz.
u need to remember, nearly everyone believed in god at the time..atheism wasnt a popularirly recognized option.
rob crawford, i am incredulous that Hagee can happen in America, the land of good public schools.
who knows, praps all Hagee’s followers were homeschooled.
but i guess religious insanity can happen anywhere. biological basis of behavior.
again, i think we’re getting a little blasee on teh horror of islamofacism.
its been overexposed and its startin to fade from the public consciousness.
like NoI.
if it bleeds it leads, but fresh blood is better.
You know, Gleen(s) should watch out for those rightbehinders.
i am incredulous that Hagee can happen in America, the land of good public schools.
who knows, praps all Hagee’s followers were homeschooled.
You really should visit America sometime, nishi. It is quite different than what you have been led to believe.
Pablo, its about teh vote.
does mccain accepting hagee’s support win him votes with the theocons?
will it offset votes he loses from prochoice independents and non-theocon repubs like me?
does the jewish vote count to repubs?
will mccain lose catholic votes he might have got?
i dont know.
i just honestly think mccain cud have gotten suppport from a more mainstream theocon pastor.
this was stupid.
As an admitted Obamaron, gd4u, no?
lurvs u dan, feets.
And remember fellas,
‘Tis better to have lurved and lost, the to never have lurved at all.
It’s a many splintered thing, lurv that is.
I’m convinced. Nishi has huge boobs.
well…when i was a coblogger at Gene Expression my friend godlesscapitalist (a staunch republican)
always worried that the theocons made republicans look stupid.
i just think Hagee makes republicans look stupider than they are.
i hope.
I thought the expression was “Obamaton”.
McCain lost your vote because of Hagee? I’m telling Barack!
nope, big brains, small boobs.
You’ve always got us, nish.
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#110
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#111
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nope, big brains, small boobs.
Over compensating, mayhaps?
Write something smart and blow the carbon out of those brain pistons then why don’t you?
The Ethnical Obamaton.
the theocons made republicans look stupid.
Sometimes, but it is a pittance compared to the multitude of moronic constituent groups the Dems are toting around.
“jefferson NEVER infused HIS religion into the constitution.”
Jefferson had nothing to do with writing the Constitution. He was in France at the time.
“separation of church and state was pretty imperative for those guyz.”
It was a throwaway line in a letter to (gasp) a Christian congregation.
“u need to remember, nearly everyone believed in god at the time..atheism wasnt a popularirly recognized option.”
Jefferson also wrote the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. Athiests welcome.
Please, learn some history before you spout off again, ‘mkay?
i missed this, wat ric locke said.
So it is an issue, and an important one: Will ethical and moral principles derived from Christian theology be an acceptable input to the American political process, or not? Nishi declares not, and justifies her profession using the oldest evasion: experimenting on people is not nice, so what you do is define your experimental subjects as “not peopleâ€Â. Me, I think there are enough revenants still lurching about to affect the process if nothing else, else where did Huckabee come from? McCain could pick up just about all of Huckabee’s supporters by lashing out at the MSM, as I suggested above. The question before the House is whether the gain would be better than the loss of the nishis, and since I think the nishis and moonbats are gone for good it’s a question of whether a positive quantity is greater than zero.
he’s right.
mccain needs the theocons to win. he has to keep hagee at this point i guess.
and ppl like me that voted repub because GW was good for nat’l security always resented the religion convolved with government thing.
so we are free now and u wont get us back until the theocons are gone from the party.
im sorry.
so we are free now
And after all that haggling over price…
hehe…unless there’s another …..event.
dont think there will be.
thing is GW, has done a great job.
that is why i can vote for O.
This is, after all, the land of opportunity. Opportunity to succeed also means opportunity to epoch fial.
OT, I’m starting to get a feel for nishi’s wide-eyed, noticing-the-world-as-if-for-the-first-time astonishment at, well, pretty much everything. But she can’t possibly be only twelve or thirteen, can she?
You never were part of the party, nishi; certainly not a reliable part if the endorsement of some silly little preacher in Texas turns you away. The support you offer isn’t support, and the price for your ‘support’ is more than it is worth.
That whole rant by the good preacher was about as metaphorical a victimization meme as I have ever heard.
However he left out Kyoto.
wait, is nishi really trying to equate hagee with wright? obama has come out and spoken and written about wrights influence on him and his thinking. hagee endorses mccain, but mccain has never had any dealings with the guy outside of that.
can you honestly even compare the two? or are you just a simple minded retard?
oh noes, im just comparing the relative vote count advantages that dervive from the pyschowankers association with their respective candidates.
an the way the MSM presents the whackjobs in relation to their supported candidates.
u can consider me the junkfood of Karl.
he goes for vote allocation and political analysis based on reason, statistics, poll data, etc.
im more into the biological basis of behavior and yuck factor voting analysis.
and history, Karl is big into history.
my rides here.
very windy on the front range here…hope i dont wind up shredding a tree or sumpin.
Jeremiah Wright propagates hatred and division for purposes of self-aggrandizement.
Riling up his listeners with hate filled rhetoric is how he gets off. Every tyrant in history has employed similar tactics of exploitation of an audience. As does the creepy recent honoree of Trinity church’s publication, Louis Farrakhan.
I have a hard time distinguishing their tactics from those of radical Islam, which absolutely depends on propagation of hatred of “the Jew” (to a lesser extent, hatred of “the Unbeliever”) to keep the movement alive.
All reminiscent of the rhetoric from the origins of the Black Muslims in America.
Tedious, ignorant.
And was primarily about preventing government interference in religion, not about people informing their political views with their religion.
Rather than obsessing over the “biological basis of behavior”, perhaps you should get out and meet some real people? They’re no where near as simplistic as you believe.
nishi, in terms that you would understand, your methodology is being skewed by your mindset.
While you may think that Hagee’s endorsement of McCain will create some kind of massive groundswell of teh outrage, in truth the vast majority of Republican secularists, blue blood elites and moderates won’t give a rat’s ass. They don’t share your hardline world view of “snake handlers” as a premier voting concern.They are also aware enough to understand that McCain is only tangentially connected by this endorsement. Hagee has no long term relationship with the albino nor does he have a voice in policy making. By applying your own, narrowly defined, decision matrix to these voters you are pasting a narrative that simply doesn’t exist to any large degree.
This is in sharp contrast to Obama’s long and close association to the victimization pimp. Most people can easily see that Wright has a hands on connection to the campaign and there has already been talk that the good pastor will distance himself from Barry if this connection becomes a liability. You may think that these are subtlies but they don’t require a PhD to recognize.
You need to rethink your methodology of voting preferences to avoid a willful ignorance of voters’ attitudes. They are not you.
Addemdum: Hagee will be forgotton in a week as he will have no signifiant access to McCain’s campaign from now on. Wright will continue to be heard in connection to Obama’s campaign unmtil he chooses to do the “distancing” thing.
A week from now, no one will be talking about Hagee.
After reading up to this point one thing is clear; nishi and her Obamassiah friends are very clearly scared shitless of this gaining traction in the MSM.
nishi-Your assertion that the Hagee mess is juicier then the Wright mess is a bit tough to swallow when the grey lady splashes Johnny Mac’s “non-affair” affair on the front page. Especially after it is obvious that he will be the opponent from the GOP. The MSM stopped caring long ago about ratings and circulation and what is “juicy”. This Wright thing is as juicy as it gets but they are deathly afraid of being labeled “racist” and losing their uber-liberal street cred.
No.
No he was not.
In 1960, William R. Denslow, Masonic scholar and editor of the Transactions of the Missouri Lodge of Research, concluded that Jefferson was not a Mason, saying all claims for his membership are based on association or insinuation, with no proof by records. Masons are big on keeping records. Becasue of thsoe records there are a number of things that can be said about Jefferson and Freemasonry:
Thomas Jefferson was often in Masonic company. His son-in-law Governor of Virginia Thomas M. Randolph, his favorite grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph, and nephews Peter and Samuel Carr were all members of Door to Virtue Lodge No. 44, Albemarle County, Virginia. Freemasons such as Thomas Paine, Voltaire, Lafayette, and Jean Houdon were some of his closest associates in Europe. Masons whom he admired in America included George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Dr. Benjamin Rush, John Paul Jones, James Madison, James Monroe, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark.
Denslow showed that Jefferson was reported by Dr. Joseph Guillotin to have attended meetings of the Lodge of Nine Muses in Paris; that he had marched in a Masonic procession with Widow’s Son Lodge No. 60 and Charlottesville Lodge No. 90 on October 6, 1817, at the cornerstone laying of Central College (now the University of Virginia); that the Grand Lodges of South Carolina and Louisiana held funeral orations and processions for him following his death on July 4, 1826; and that a Blue Lodge at Surry Court House, Virginia, was named Jefferson Lodge No. 65 in 1801.
the land of good public schools.
who knows, praps all Hagee’s followers were homeschooled.
but i guess religious insanity can happen anywhere.
Oh, for fuck’s sake …
Stereotype much?
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the land of good public schools.
who knows, praps all Hagee’s followers were homeschooled.
but i guess religious insanity can happen anywhere.
Oh, for fuck’s sake …
Stereotype much?”
Anti-Chritianism is the antisemitism of the whackjob.
Nishi’s tune is all hook and no bridge. I’m done arguing with a failed Turing experiment.
If we’re going to talk biology, all one really needs to know is that nishi started off on the point that everyone has heard all of this and doesn’t care, but continues to comment and comment and comment to try to move the subject.
Allah-lanche!
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mccain needs the theocons to win.
Nope. Try again.
Still waters run deep, but Nishi is never still.
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The comparison between Farrakhan and Hagee is vacuous. Farrakhan is about racial hatred, Hagee is about a theological dispute.
When did involvement in theological arguments among Christians become a value of the Democratic party?
Once again, it’s the Democrats, not the Republicans, who prove they don’t understand what role religion should play in politics.
(Unrelated to this topic, please visit my political blog, “Plumb Bob Blog: Squaring the Culture,” at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Thanks.)
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Good rebuttal, Ric, but I still think ethical/religious/moral triangulation in a presidential campaign is bullshit. I continue to studiously ignore all such assaults. And I’m waiting, as always.
#153 oh noes rusty im so right.
this my fav poll..
economics and bidding theory kinda strips out the spoofs.
the theocons make up 1/3 of the republican party.
mccain cant win the general without them.
#141 from tanstaafl is worth a look in case you missed it and worth a re-read if you didn’t.
“I have a hard time distinguishing their [the Jeremiah Wrights] tactics from those of radical Islam, which absolutely depends on propagation of hatred of “the Jew†(to a lesser extent, hatred of “the Unbelieverâ€Â) to keep the movement alive.”
Important, this.
Another thing – Jermiah Wright’s self-stated philosophy is based on Liberation Theology, in the form of Black Liberation Theology. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNTGRL0OJWQ&feature=related for one of many examples.)
Liberation Theology is nothing but Marx-Mao-Lenin plus Jesus, cobbled together by old-fashioned Communists in hopes of capturing a new audience in heavily-Catholic Latin America.
Black Liberation Theology is L.T. plus the rhetoric and hatey whitey jewey of the Black Muslims, as referenced by tanstaafl above.
This is the ideology voluntarily espoused by Barack Obama, evidenced by his membership in Jeremiah Wright’s church for over 20 years and his frequent parroting of Wright’s words and arguments.
Of all the options this privileged prep-school Ivy League professional has had available, Obama has chosen to closely associate himself with a Marxist-Racist-Islamist social philosophy packaged in a Christian wrapper.
Ah, but to even bring it up is off-limits. Such is the bulletproofness of half-blackness.
Not a scientist, more of a technician really.
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Why does Obama keep getting a free pass? Why is any inquiry, or challenge to his record, or unsavory associations, met with accusations of racism? Jeramiah Wright, an obvious racist and anti-Semite, not only endorses, supports and praises Farakan … Obama is a lot more connected to Wright than a mere case of guilt by association. Obama himself has described Wright as his spiritual advisor and mentor of 20 years. Obama was going to have Wright speak at his announcement to run ceremony, until he realized it would be a bad political decision. Any fool can weigh 20 years of involvement against a momentary half hearted denouncement, motivated by personal political ambition. The left and the media has fashioned Obama into a sacred cow, who is above reproach. Obama’s record, and associations have become like the Emperor’s new clothes, even when the future of the world is at stake!
an unamerican nigger wanting to kill all whites sure sounds godly
rev. is unamerican nigger wanting to kill all whites
oh just stop. that’s inartful at best.
Pastor Wright is not a racsit For Those who are saying that. He Is speaking The Truth White american No This world will never be equal. Because their will always be Whites that hates and are scared of blacks. Leave Him alone> This Is The Truth and the truth Hurts.
ANd to be truthful whites aint gon vote for a black man anyway