Or, “If the Seattle Post-Intelligencer editorial board helps the FBI and the citizens of the Pacific Northwest identify possible terror plotters, the terrorists will have already won.”
Up is down. Black is white. Nobody much cares for Raymond.
Or, “If the Seattle Post-Intelligencer editorial board helps the FBI and the citizens of the Pacific Northwest identify possible terror plotters, the terrorists will have already won.”
Up is down. Black is white. Nobody much cares for Raymond.
I hated that show. And I don’t care much for perpetually damp self-righteous poseurs. If the muzzies want Seattle, give it to them.
I presume this means the PI will no longer run the crime blotter (straight from the PIGS, man) stories on budgets or appropriations (they use icky GOVERNMENT provided numbers – ewww!) cease to cover City Council meetings, State Legislature sessions or Congress (The “G” itself – aiieeee!).
Oh, does this mean they won’t run any leaks by Government employees either?
Did I miss the announcement of the memorial service for nuance?
If I had known I would have attended, brought flowers and worn my best brown shirt, pistol holder and jack boots.
In case someone didn’t get the point. I’m all about the teaching.
Can’t the FBI just buy an ad? Am I missing something? Seems to me that that would clarify things a bit.
“Can’t the FBI just buy an ad?”
The PI doesn’t accept money from hate organizations.
I think, Major John, what it means is that they’re full of shit.
(Not very nuance-y, but there you go…)
Ace-o-Spades makes the great point that many of those who argue we should treat terrorism as a law-enforcement issue seem pretty hostile to actual law-enforcement efforts.
While I haven’t read enough of the specifics of this event to really form an intelligent opinion, I was surprised at the public showing of the arrogance by the PI editor who wrote this article and is representative of the opinion many in the press hold towards the public in general and this administration in particular, forinstance…
From the PI Editorial board;
Uh, no people don’t have a hard time with that.
What I think that a lot of people have a hard time with is how on some occasions, such as this, members of the MSM just come out say, that they basically own the means of information dissemination and they will decide what you get to see, read, hear because they know what’s best for you. Therefore they will not assist their government during wartime.
While at other times they try to tell us that it’s their job to remain objective and present all sides in the interest of evenhandedness. So they will report on a top secret government surveillance program to try and trace terrorist funding.
Finally they follow through by painting themselves as the ‘real patriots’ and victims of the big, evil ChimpyMcHitlerBurtonBuchco. This is getting tiresome.
One good thing that may result from the MSM meltdown we’ve been witnessing since the advent of alternative media is the return of journalists to the rightly deserved status they had during the times of W.R. Hearst and yellow journalism, which was about three notches below child molester.
I think what is most distressing about this is the way it denigrates the people who make up the FBI.
Can the Seattle P-I not allow that the agents who investigated this matter, and requested the publication of the picture aren’t necessarily one micron away from full Gestapo membership. Can there be no FBI agent of integrity or who acts from a sense of civic duty?
Maybe it’s just me, but it’s just not funny anymore. I’m not talking about Jeff and PW; I’m talking about things like the PI editorial board.
Rhetorical question: If the two men were presumed white Christians wanted for questioning regarding the bombing of abortion clinics would the P-I refuse to cooperate?
After reading the Managing Editor’s arrogant comments (and the fictional story about the ferry captain calling him and quoting Ben Franklin), I can state with all certainty that I am not the least bit comfortable with clowns like him determining what it, and is not, news.
Aldo – They would run those pictures on the front page until they were caught.
One further thought the editorial in the PI quoted Ben Franklin
How ironic. After the deaths from 9/11, after learning just who the Islamists are and what their agenda is, these people are so unmoved that they will not lift a finger or be in anyway inconvenienced in helping their country. They rail against Bush, conservatives, the FBI, any strawman that will allow them to not have to face the real threat to their freedoms and way of life. They will allow others to do their fighting for them while mocking them.
Ben Franklin was speaking of people rising up to defend their freedoms against tyranny. To accept the British impositions of his day would have been accepting a sort of colonial dhimmitude.
Today, the US is defending a decadent west against an enemy who deliberately targets innocent civilians and non-combatants as part of their strategy and would destroy all the freedoms we take for granted.
Perhaps a modern corollary to Franklin’s quip might be, those who are too decadent to aid their country in time of need do not deserve its freedoms or its security.
I was discussing this issue with a panhandler the other day and he ended his comments with a quote from the English divine, Richard Cecil:
“Wisdom prepares for the worst, but folly leaves the worst for the day when it comes.”
Tim P – I would bet dimes to dollars that he made up that story around that quote.
Tim P, nice comment. I’ve had that quote thrust at me when trying to just play devil’s advocate in regards to the data mining and wiretapping tactics the administration has engaged in in order to find and root out terrorists/jihadists. I have to question which civil liberty is being uprooted? I consider myself a libertarian (classical liberal) and have absolutely NO problem with any of this administration’s demoestic policies in regards to trying to catch terrorists/jihadis. I did not like the whole DHS as I thought we already had that in various departments in the Federal government, but I really had no problem with the Patriot Act.
The civil libertarians that worry that any Executive move that might overreach it’s parameters are just complete paranoids in my opinion. The Lew Rockwell libertarians if you will. The left? Well, let’s just say that if President Bush was a democrat, they’d be awfully quiet on all these isssues. The politics of all this is disgusting.
Ah the “go-to” quote from Ben Franklin “Mr. Electric”. Why doesn’t anyone quote Ben when he was sitting at the bar at Chowning’s Tavern:
More gravy my good man, and send a mulled wine over to that fair maiden with the huge tits – with my compliments.
Obstreperous Infidel – This is where the friction and acrimony originates between the Left and the Right, in my not so humble opinion. Similar actions have been taken, and will be taken, under Dem administrations, in more benign times, and nary a peep from that side of the aisle.
The rancor exists because they reflexively oppose that which could make us more secure, under the pretense of protecting some vaguely described civil rights, ones that are never actually defined, nor shown how they are being violated. They pretend to take the high road, while simply being partisans of the worst sort.
Didn’t Benjamin Franklin also say that “Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy.”?
If those guys were casing the offices of the Seattle PI, do you think they’d run the pictures?
I think Ben may have coined the phrase “meade goggles”.
I think the PI also figured out that having a haiku contest on the subject wasn’t exactly the brightest idea ever.
“I think Ben may have coined the phrase “meade gogglesâ€Â.”
Or was it ‘ale spectacles’?
slackjawedyokel
I sincerely doubt that is something that they learned.
I think it’s the PI’s absolute right to pick sides in this battle. It’s ours to point out which side it’s picked.
“Or was it ‘ale spectacles’?”
I stand corrected. I may have been thinking of “meade wiener”.
I thought it was Firewater Kielbasa
You’re thinking of “Raisin Jack Sack”
I’m thinking we should come up with some prize for the best haikus over there – you know, since the SPI refused to choose a winner after offering prizes and such.
My personal favorites:
Posted by unregistered user at 8/22/07 6:54 a.m.
Why post the pictures?
You could protect our lives, but…
CAIR might sue your ass.
and
Posted by unregistered user at 8/21/07 8:24 p.m.
Hold Liberal convention
On the ferry, then
Sink that sucker!
I’m kinda partial to this one too, from the haiku apology blog entry:
Posted by unregistered user at 8/22/07 7:18 p.m.
Terrorism’s fake
Nothing bad can happen here
‘Cause we recycle
– Reality makes a comeback –
– In a push against the Escher-esque “stairways to no-where” polititical atmosphere engendered by the Progressive movement, the efforts out here in California to change the Electoral college vote block approach for Presidential candidates in the election, from winner takes all to district by district, is causing massive heartburn for the Left as they begin to react like a Niagra Vibra-Lounger.
– Of course they have no problem with the two states that already use this approach, Vermont and Nebraska, which are “safe†blue states. When asked about that obvious bigotry, they are reduced to the usual fast nattering verbal tap dance.
– The conservative voting groups behind the plan have already begun the gathering of the 400,000 signitures needed to get the measure on the ballot in time for the upcoming elections. No difficulty is anticipated, and the SecProggs are in full flight panic.
– Aside from possibly losing California, generally a safe state for the Dems, an even worse specter for the moonbats is the domino effect that may occur once the tsunomi gets started, with state after state following suit.
– Such a change has been described as the Mt. Saint Helens of the American political process, wherein the majority would actually rule for a change. (What a novel idea-Ed). Already in the minority by a sizable difference, such a change might mean the “Progressivesâ€Â, and their influence on the Democratic party, would be relagated to the dust bins of political history.
– Personally I don’t blame them for being panicky. But an interesting effect would be the reduction of political influence of both extremes, not just the Left, but the extreme Right as well, and would pull the teeth of powerful special interest groups and their lobbyists, groups that depend on delivering state block votes for the source of their Political clout.
– All of which couldn’t be anything but good in this age of severely polorized polity. California might yet prove itself a usefull citizen, and live down the embarrassment of the San Francisco cultists enclaves.
– A haiku for no other reason than I dislike certain types of onions that tend to give my Man-card a pinkish tint…
Sir, you cannot board
What, how dare you profile me
No, its your rocket
– Expect Mohammud and Sahid to sue somebody for trampling on their Constitutional rights to look and act like terrorists.
The Conspiracy Theorist’s Haiku
Summer Sound swallows
Hundreds of innocent lives
One more false flag flown
Captain’s eyes meet mine
Detonators are all set
He doesn’t know me
The ode to Billy Jack Manly Man haiku
My Harley hums on
pressed ‘tween muscular thighs
Man-card in tight jeans
“those who are too decadent to aid their country in time of need do not deserve its freedoms or its security”
Perhaps, in analogy to those “do not resusitate” instructions, they should get “do not protect” tattooed on their foreheads. Certainly they do not deserve protection. If, God forbid, there is another massive terrorist attack in the US, I hope that the victims are mostly these sorts of people. Perhaps they they will wake up, sort of like communist party members didn’t notice that there was something murderously wrong until it was they who were shot or sent to the gulag. While it was “merely” peasants and workers and the non-political middle class, they couldn’t see anything wrong.
Was it Michael Moore who protested the 9/11 hijackers’ choice of New York City as a target, because most of the people there are liberals?
I wouldn’t bet the pricey downtown real estate on it.
Perhaps, in analogy to those “do not resuscitate” instructions, they should get “do not protect” tattooed on their foreheads.
Didn’t San Francisco flirt with that awhile back, when they wouldn’t let a battleship dock at the port or something? I swear someone said that they would take their chances with whatever enemy might come ashore, thank you very much, as long as that awful baby-killing military doesn’t get involved.
Or maybe it was someone on the right who proposed it. Can’t remember.
But good idea, pst314, capital idea.
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