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Protein Wisdom Saudi Women’s Support Initiative [Dan Collins]

Suppressed by patriarchal strictures in their conservative society, young Saudi women express their desire for liberation from the shackles of puritanical Wahhabist morality by reaching out for appreciation and approval on the web.

From MEMRI:

Following are excerpts from a TV report on Saudi women and web cams, which aired on LBC TV on April 18, 2007:

Reporter: Behind closed doors and far from any supervising eyes, they remove their shame and turn their backs on all customs and traditions. Girls display their bodies in chat rooms on the Internet, in most cases, free of charge. As soon as one of these girls places the camera in front of her, she begins to strip, displaying her seductive charms to more than 300 young men of different ages. Some believe that the phenomenon of stripping over the Internet may be understood within the framework of social hypocrisy, especially since they believe that our religious and educational discourse does not attribute importance to the strengthening of self-restraint, and prefers the appearance over the essence. This drives some people to play several roles and wear several masks.

Commentator: Women are seeking emotions and admiration. This way, she gets words of admiration for her personality and even her body. She might remove one piece of clothing after another, in order to gain this admiration.

[…]

Reporter: On the other hand, many believe that web stripping has not reached the proportions of a phenomenon, and that these are merely isolated cases. They emphasize that the vast majority of our girls protect their modesty and respect the customs, and traditions. These people believe that web cams can be useful tools. They can be used to maintain family ties, and can have educational applications, in lectures and conferences, for example.

Many young men and women believe that the endless prohibitions drive them to hide behind closed doors, and surf in relations that rebel against all costumes and traditions, in search of love, in some cases, and in order to satisfy their urges, in other cases, especially since the Internet gives them the opportunity to openly declare their repressed desires without fear.

Young Saudi woman in shopping mall: The girls misuse the web cams. They take them into their rooms, and even their families do not know that they have cameras, or what the girls use their laptops or web cams for.

Young Saudi man in shopping mall: A girl can buy a web cam for a very cheap price, 70-75 riyals. She takes it to her room, closes the door, and begins the show.

Reporter: Although Saudi Arabia has a strict mechanism to block access to site that are immoral, these chat rooms are available to all. Teenagers are the most frequent visitors to these sites.

The camera scans her body, sending an image, with all the details, to the other party. The further she goes with her stripping, the mare admiration she harvests, until she becomes a star, applauded by the masses – or so she imagines.

Saudi psychologist Samira Al Ghamadi: Instead of becoming upset that such images are being broadcast, we should ask why such things happen in our homes. Why do our children enter these sites? Out of curiosity. They seek answers to things we never explain to them. We tell them that this is forbidden, and shameful, shameful, shameful, shameful… We never answer them. We always say: “They will learn in the future.” But they learn the wrong things, I am very sorry to say. We do not give them a sense of security. We do not give them enough room to express themselves, so they go to chat rooms. Many women might be upset with me for saying so, but there are married women whose husbands constantly pressure them, while they themselves go out at night and hang out. So the wife withdraws into the Internet and meet many people. She chooses an imaginary name, and meets guys who value her and treat her properly, while on the other hand, her husband humiliates her. Why wouldn’t she go there?

It’s true that from time to time we here at Protein Wisdom have been accused of anti-feminism, and even misogyny.  I think it’s time that we put paid once and for all to this gross mischaracterization.  Please express your willingness to express your appreciation for the self-expression of Saudi women, below.

UPDATE: I’m not sure I get this guy’s point, exactly, but I think he makes it very well.  I think that we ought to have a fan pic spot for this lovely young lady here.

Here’s Haifa’s official fan site.

Where you can learn about her “humble and sincere personality,” and that she has “perform[ed] gratuitously at events in aid of underprivileged children.” Also, that she has been named “The Sexiest Woman in the Middle East” by Lounge Magazine.

19 Replies to “Protein Wisdom Saudi Women’s Support Initiative [Dan Collins]”

  1. JHoward says:

    Saudi women need webcams like a fish need bicycles, Dan Collins.

  2. Dan Collins says:

    How can you tell, JH?

  3. JHoward says:

    I don’t know but I’ve been told, Dan.

  4. B Moe says:

    Behind closed doors and far from any supervising eyes, they remove their shame and turn their backs on all customs and traditions. Girls display their bodies in chat rooms on the Internet, in most cases, free of charge.

    And we are just supposed to believe this?  I am sorry, I need some links please.

  5. Lew Clark says:

    I’m with B Moe!  I’m calling bs on the whole thing until I see photographic evidence.  And no photoshop crap.  I know the difference!

  6. Dan Collins says:

    All I can say, guys, is information wants to be free.

  7. furriskey says:

    I was going to demand links too, but I see the lads got in before me.

    Come on, Dan. Black & white will do-

  8. Q30 says:

    Let’s not feel too superior to the Saudis. In our so-called “enlightened” western society, women can’t even get blind stinking drunk at frat parties without worrying about someone touching their asses non-consensually!!

    Why must you right wingers always focus the spotlight elsewhere? Can’t you just ONCE condemn the excesses of your own white penile facism?

  9. BumperStickerist says:

    Okay, gents – http://www.arablounge.com/personals/chatRoom.cfm?siteIDD=45

    Once I changed my screen name from Seamus Al-Qaedrani to Mohammed al-Qaedrani, teh Saudi chicks really started removing their shame in earnest.

    Allahu-Akbarrrrowwwwwrrrrr

  10. Dan Collins says:

    Is the name Haroun Maliki Kamel taken?

  11. McGehee says:

    I’m calling bs on the whole thing until I see photographic evidence.  And no photoshop crap.

    To hell with photographic evidence—we need video. Maybe even firsthand observation.

  12. Lew Clark says:

    I changed my handle to an Arabic sounding name and was still blocked from the chatroom.  Maybe there is already a “Jeff Goldstein” registered.

  13. harrison says:

    Maybe there is already a “Jeff Goldstein” registered.

    Maybe they don’t like “Jeffs”.

  14. Achmed Goldstein says:

    I’m not sure that it’s “Jeff” they have a problem with.  I was not able to register either.

    Achmed Goldstein.

  15. Andrea Porkin says:

    There’s a strong bimodal distribution going on there.

    On the one hand, you might get this, this, or this.

    On the other hand, you might get this.

    Let’s be careful out there, shall we?

  16. Tim P says:

    YIKES!!

    There aren’t enough carbon offsets available to offset the gas I burned getting away from that!

  17. Al Maviva says:

    Can’t you just ONCE condemn the excesses of your own white penile facism?

    Right, right.  We will, just as soon as we get done condemning the excesses of facile penism.

  18. The Lost Dog says:

    Hey, Dan…

    I’m afraid that I need some evidence, too.

    I think a burkaless Saudi woman would be at least as exciting as those fifty year old “high school cheerleaders” we all occasionally run across.

    Intigueing, but where are the URL’s?

  19. B Moe says:

    …those fifty year old “high school cheerleaders” we all occasionally run across.

    Damn Dog, I think you been waaaaaay lost, bro.

    ;p

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