A: When it’s taking a courageous stand on behalf of sinister conspiracies and the greater truthiness. From feministing, “You will not shame me”:
I have gotten email upon threatening email to rescind what I said last year about the Duke Women’s Lacrosse Team and their uninformed support for the accused rapists in the Duke rape case. The case that was mishandled, manipulated and finally dropped on Wednesday.
I usually ignore emails that intend to *put me in my place* but I think we owe it to our supportive readers to say something outside of “black strippers are lying whores” and the “we won” mentality that seems to have overtaken the public imagination with the dreaded interplay of rape and race.
I just want to say first and foremost, I still stand by what I say and have said. It does look bad for people to support accused rapists, at that point we didn’t know the facts either way. Furthermore, women of color are in fact OFTEN sexually assaulted and usually the criminal justice system and/or the media either overlook it or mishandle it. Women of color often have a higher burden of proof that they are not lying about rape. Case in point (as Amanda and others stated ): when the lack of DNA evidence was announced—before we even knew whether the players were innocent or not—people were quite quick to accuse the accuser of being guilty of lying. So be it.
The charges were dropped. Does this mean that they are innocent? None of us actually know what happened that night. Sorry, unless you were there, you don’t know what happened. Now for the rest of you that have such a die hard belief in the criminal justice system and evidence, well quite frankly I pity you. This is a system that arrests a disproportionate number of people of color, subjecting them to unfair trials, inadequate representation and longer sentences (in a prison system that resembles slavery) SORRY, I don’t trust the courts. When you’re a woman of color who’s a sexworker, up against white kids with money that can afford *good* lawyers, the outcome is not looking so good.
They were not found to be innocent, the charges were dropped from lack of evidence. Moreover, innocent until proven guilty only applies to certain people. Ideally, it would apply to everyone but *a lot* of people are guilty at arrest, just for being who they are and where they are. We are not operating in a vacuum, but within a long history of corruption and injustice in the supposed justice system. So, if these guys were in fact falsely accused, they got a taste of how black men are treated EVERY DAY by the criminal justice system.
And what is the outcome of all of this? The general public now believes that black strippers ARE in fact lying whores and the worst thing that could happen to a strapping Duke lacrosse player is that his lily white reputation is marred by false accusations. Beyond this being a terrible precedent set for women that bring up rape accusations (still something underreported) to never ever report rape again, the racist and sexist reaction from the media and public have been to say the least profound.
[all emphases mine]
Well, Samhita’s right about one thing: we certainly can’t shame her anymore than she already shames herself here.
Let’s take a quick look at the assiduous condescension and moral superiority on display in this ludicrous defense of sweeping generalization, sociological stereotyping, and doctrinaire establishment feminist identity politics.
First, note how Samhita is quick to label the Duke Women’s Lacrosse team “uninformed” at the time of their initial defense—marking their support of the Men’s Lacrosse Team kneejerk, reactionary, and anti-feminist. Yet it is a safe bet, given their commonalities, that those women knew the members of the men’s lacrosse team better than Samhita, or the Faculty 88, etc.—which would make the female lax team’s support far less illogical and kneejerk, in lieu of all the facts coming to light, than the condemnation from those who knew even less about the players or the party.
Samhita then tries to rally the troops and garner some ideological sympathy by appealling to “our supportive readers”—that is, people predisposed to believe, like Samhita, that the Women’s Duke Lax team are sisterhood sellouts—in order to form the skeleton of her defense. This is quickly juxtaposed with caricaturish depictions of those who early on found so much wrong with the accuser’s story that they began to question the rush, on the part of the DA, the university administration, and sociological “theorists” of all stripes, to convict the indicted players: those who remained dubious and eventually came to support the Duke 3 are not concerned about justice, the argument goes, so much as they are either in proving that women of color are lying whores, or else waxing triumphal over the laying bare of dangerous academic cant—which in this instance was used to galvanize the “intellectual” equivalent of a torch-bearing mob intent on lynching a type for a host of historical transgressions they came to represent.
Sadly, the individualism of the Duke 3 never mattered to these culture warriors. All that mattered is how they could be used to further their particular grievance narratives—from feminism to post-colonialism to anti-capitalism to institutionalized racism. And in fact, Samhita here marshals as many of these as she can to shield herself from the criticism she so very richly deserves. Setting aside rationalizations (nearly all of them of the tu quoque variety: innocent until proven guilty only applies to certain people, blacks go through this kind of thing every day, etc.—making one wonder why, if this is such a problem, she would be willing to perpetuate the very kinds of offenses she claims to abhor), she writes, for instance, of a “public imagination” “overtaken” “with the dreaded interplay of rape and race”—neglecting to mention that the interplay of rape and race was in fact foisted on the public as part of the narrative being constructed by people like Samhita in order to secure the conjoinment, a double-grievance against which to set “white male privilege.”
She goes on to complain that the “general public now believes that black strippers ARE in fact lying whores” (a strawwoman-of-color argument if ever there was one), before bemoaning the “terrible precedent set for women that bring up rape accusations (still something underreported) to never ever report rape again.” But what she doesn’t do is acknowledge that the responsibility for what she imagines will be increased public suspicion rests equally with the lies of this particular accuser, and with the kneejerk support given her at the expense of the accused by people who have spent their lives stoking grievances in order to institutionalize identity politics, which they then parlay into political power.
How ironic it is, then, to watch Samhita use the fact “none of us actually know what happened that night” as a defense not only for preemptively assuming guilt, but for ignoring the evidence since presented that caused the charges to be dropped.
Because, pace Samhita, the charges weren’t simply dropped as a matter of passive voice. They were actively dropped after a fresh investigation pointed to the shabby, politically motivated prosecution by Nifong—one that was emboldened and offered succor by the politics and sociological fetishes of people like Samhita.
You will not be shamed?
Too bad. Because until you are, you will never learn what it means to be the kind of American envisioned by the rich white males who put together the Constitution, a Constitution under whose protections you seek to dehumanize individuals in the service of a collectivist ideology.
*****
update: Reader John sends along this bit, from Jesse…who’s this now? Sorry, never heard of the guy:
“There’s a race/sex/class intrigue in the situation.
“And the idea of white males fantasizing about black women is—is quite old, quite—and quite ugly, and now quite illegal. And that’s why we really want the truth to be told. We want justice served. And we want the law to serve as a—as a deterrent.”’
Asks John, “Did I miss the fact that someone passed a law making it illegal for white men to fantasize about black women? Has anyone been charged under that law yet?”
To which I reply, just to be on the safe side, “WHAT’S IT TO YOU, RACIST?”
That bitch just needs to get fucked. What’s she look like?
You know, until the Imus thing happened, I could’ve sworn “nappy-headed” was just another way of saying “bedhead.” Like you just got up from taking a nap and hadn’t combed your hair yet.
Agreed, Jeff. There’s nothing right about justice being served (the false rape allegations being dropped) that can’t be made wrong in the pursuit of leftism.
Political panhandling and ideological ideads! Its a merry mess for the feminist…!
You’d better put on your self-referential irony tags, PN, or you’ll find yourself being used as proof of Samhita’s “points”.
Me, I distance myself from everything.
Samhita seems to have distanced herself from reality.
Well, if she’s good looking, PN is right, she prolly just needs a schnooking…
PN can play our honey pot – so long as he doesn’t mind getting shot.
Usually distancing one’s self from some – is the best way to get a good shot for your long-range gun.
Not to insinuate real violence, but as metaphors that hopefully make a whit of sense.
etc.
I was half way through her screed before I realized it was meant to be serious. It was so unbelievable given all that has come out, that I thought it was intended to be some kind of satire with a touch of irony. She must be deranged, or at a minimumn, totally delusional.
Furthermore, women of color are in fact OFTEN sexually assaulted and usually the criminal justice system and/or the media either overlook it or mishandle it. Women of color often have a higher burden of proof that they are not lying about rape.
This is based on what? I didn’t know you could throw out unsupported assertions like that. I mean, it certainly would make blogger easier.
Just to be on the safe side, I won’t be seen in public at the new Halle Berry movie. Instead, I’ll just stay home and go Zapruder-like through Swordfish.
Jesse can take my sweet, sweet Ayaan Hirsi Ali fantasy away when he pries it from my cold, dead mind. Especially the part where she bitchslaps his race baiting ass.
Or, it could be that people of color commit a disproportinate number of crimes because they fall for the rap lifestyle that is forced to use violent language towards women.
I hit enter too fast.
I was going to add “in order to sale more record to suburban white kids”
Damn enter key
LOL…Jeff, even if I thought she had a “point”, I still wouldn’t fuck her, whether she looked like Halle Berry or Vanessa Williams. That was some of the dumbest spew I have ever seen not written by a certain dirt berm advocator. Is shunning still a reasonable tactic to use against either witches or the hopelessly clueless? Though, I do like me some witches…The hopelessly clueless, like our dear Sammy? Not so much.
RiverCocytus, you should comment more often! Or not. I NEVER like to “should” anyone, but I always appreciate and enjoy your comments.
RobB…Bingo. The argument can be about the root causess of the disproportionate numbers of young blacks being arrested and convicted, but not about the number.
RACISTS! SEXISTS!
I’m just trying to get it out of the way, people. Because you know it’s coming.
I bet she does not have that same disdain for the criminal justice system when it comes to the Scooter Libby investigation, trial and conviction.
Funny the fact that she, sammie, naturally, no matter the evidence, is inclined to believe the woman or accuser, while those that follow the evidence, like the AG & most recently Nifong himself, pronounce innocence in case. The author is willing to forgive the multiple misstatements of the accuser, while she can’t even begin to fathom that the accused are innocent, ever. The basis of her evidence, “Women of color often have a higher burden of proof that they are not lying about rape†mind you not the facts, statements made, or physical evidence collected, but an unlinked, non proven, statistic is the basis of her proof, whereas the accused or Duke 3 are limited because one can show he wasn’t there, there was no DNA evidence – though the accuser claims no condoms were used – there was DNA evidence from 3 other, non-Duke men, she was intoxicated & her partner has repeatedly provided wildly contradicting testimony. WTF kind of proof does she need to even approach that the 3 might have been falsely accused, a full length un-edited video? Much like the WMD deniers, anything less than perfect, untouched proof will only be acceptable, evidence or materials found cannot count because they are not complete or are merely pieces of a bigger whole & possibly questionable.
I guess the ultimate irony is the fact that Sammie’s pathetic arguments are even weaker & contain less actual evidence than the accuser’s case against the Duke 3 – both have had 13 months to refine their accusations & this is the best they can do?
I can’t imagine why anyone would demand an apology from sammie, much less take what she has to say seriously, she has proven herself incapable of inherently being objective in regards to at least 50% of the population & dependant upon unrelated, racially based conjecture vs. physical evidence. Rational arguments never count to her, because the race of the alleged victim trumps it, witness testimony won’t persuade her because the accused are males & naturally guilty, lack of physical evidence in/on the alleged victim or crime-scene, merely spell out conspiracy, because the accuser was a woman of color & the real perpetrators were white males.
Given sammie’s lack of empathy for males or ability to see beyond her own bias, the sad thing is that she is promoting a water-downed version of the time-old faith vs. proof argument. But in this case she isn’t arguing about religion, but pre-conceived racial & sexual stereotypes coupled w/ her view of the opposite sex & no matter what proof provided, nothing will ever persuade her to question her axiomatic core, which tells her that women are always right & men always wrong. Asking for apology or acknowledgement of innocence would require her to remove herself from her preconceived notions & given the fact she isn’t capable of recognizing any lack of evidence as possible proof of innocence, she’ll never be able to question herself or her beliefs long enough to be objective or humble enough to admit fault. Accountability & objectivity both require a person to remove themselves from their notions or beliefs & judge solely on merits or evidence. To sammie, the only merits are what sex or race a person is… funny, that seemed to matter to the Klan as well.
One does have to wonder if she is so incapable of being objective to complete strangers in a different part of the country, how subjective her treatment of those closest to her really is?
Did anyone catch this quote in her screed:
“They were not found to be innocent, the charges were dropped from lack of evidence. “
I’m guessing she just missed this little jewel from Roy Cooper: “..we believe these three individuals are innocent of these charges.”
Any chance she might reread her post & correct it??? Not likely.
J
BECAUSE OF THE MISCEGENATION!
The guys were not found innocent, there just wasnt enough evidence to convict them??? Excuse me, but that is not what the head attorney or the lead prosecutor (whatever he is, he’s the last word) said!! He said they were innocent! And I would remind the chicka of feministing that the lack of DNA evidence was not the only thing that cleared the guys-it was the accuser herself, and not because she is a poor, black dancer. It’s because, again as mentioned in the press conference, she contradicted her own stories time and time again. The one witness we knew about also recanted. Those are just a couple examples of the numerous holes in this case.
Yes, rapes and assaults happen, a lot. I don’t know about the actual stats on whether these crimes are committed diproportinately against women of color, or that no one will believe them. But for “feminists” and race-baiters to focus on this case, and support Mangum no matter what, does not help real rape victims and it does not atone for the crimes that go unprosecuted. When’s the last time you heard of Jesse Jackson offering an actual rape victim a free ride to college? When’s the last time he or Sharpton wept for the exploitation of scantily-clad dancers in rap videos?
It’s absolutely maddening. These people claim to be the friend of the victimized and downtrodden. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
I was waiting for this one. Nice.
TW: plane81. No, plane 4:05
That still lets her off too easily. Nifong was not just emboldened and offered succor by people like Samhita: His whole political motivation behind the prosecution was Nifong’s decision to play to their prejudices in order to get elected.
Huh? So, by her logic, this “Samhita” wench could make any wild ass charge she felt like against anyone, say, ME, and unless I’m found “not guilty” in a court of law, I should have a cloud of suspicion hanging over me until the end of my days?
Maybe not even then: “not guilty” doesn’t necessarily mean “innocent”, does it? Just not “guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.”
Stupid narcissistic pedantic idiot.
“terrible precedent set for women that bring up rape accusations (still something underreported) to never ever report rape again.â€Â
It’s more of a precedent for women who bring up obviously false rape accusations…”don’t worry, you won’t be charged if you seem pathetic enough.”
Joke aside, ThePolishNizel has a point. Isn’t there a way to make women who try to destroy men’s lives with false accusations of rape pay–in a very personal and intimate way?
Saddam Hussein’s “rape rooms”, properly and justly applied, seem like divine justice to me.
In a just world, people like “Samhita” would suffer the same fate.
No, Spint.
Even if you’re found “not guilty” in a court of law you’ll have the cloud of suspicion hanging over you until the end of your days.
Because if the jurors were white they just protected their own, and if they were black they were duped by the rich white guy’s slick defense attorney (all white guys are rich, don’t you know).
God, I hope that’s a moby.
Has to be. In any event, I distance myself from everything. Just to be on the safe side.
So, by her logic, this “Samhita†wench could make any wild ass charge she felt like against anyone, say, ME, and unless I’m found “not guilty†in a court of law, I should have a cloud of suspicion hanging over me until the end of my days?
An astute observation, SN.
If Samhita is so concerned about women of color having an unfair burden of proof laid on them when they say they’ve been raped, she should be condemning Cristal Mangum’s actions and calling for her to be tried for false accusations. If anyone has made it harder on rape victims, black, white, or anything else, it’s Mangum, not the Duke lax players. That “burden of proof” just got heavier–thanks, Cristal. Go and enjoy the talk-show circuit. (And many thanks to you, Nifong!)
I’ll certainly admit that I, playing “sociological theorist,” snapped to (100% correct) judgment based on little evidence–mostly on “extraordinary claims…” grounds.
This would have been the first confirmed case of white-male-on-black-female gang rape in the U.S. in, as far as I can tell, ever. It must have happened some time, but…well, maybe it hasn’t. I can imagine it. The world, apparently, can’t. I hate Whitey, too–especially in his feminist and academic guises–but not for shit he doesn’t do. Extraordinary claim #1.
#2: “All my prejudices are correct.” Never has a case fit so perfectly into such a broad range of lefty feminist sexual and political mythologies. But crazed bigots don’t see the world as it actually is. So that kind of story is always a lie/hoax/etc. QED. And, hey, lookie–it is a hoax. And not only is, but always was.
My ignorant ass remains perfectly satisfied with its uninformed self.
(Possible extraordinary claim #3: Prosecutors aren’t always lying. Remember that one, lefties? Good times.)
Babe, I think you are hanging with the wrong black men.
Oh, and I love the condescending remark that now the majority of “the public” now “believe that all black strippers are lying whores.” What a sentence. Like we’re all sitting around now, saying, “I knew it! It’s like I always say: you just can’t trust a black stripper! They’re all alike!” I can’t remember the last time I thought real hard about the honesty and integrity of a stripper, black or white. But you can bet I will now!
Thanks, Samhita. I love the way leftists think about the public–we’re all just a bunch of rubes, who cannot be expected to figure out the delicate particulars of a case ourselves.
Typical of the left to use sweeping generalizations when accusing the rest of us of sweeping generalizations.
WHAT ABOUT TAWANA BRAWLEY!?!?
tw: progress14
That tw thing is like a laser!
Whoa. I hope NO ONE thought that I advocated doing anything of that sort
to sammy or a false accuser! That’s just wrong. There should be recourse, however, for the accused but again, OBVIOUSLY NOT that. I just simply said that sammy needs to get fucked. Of course, It would have to be consensual. My point was who would want to fuck such a moronic piece of shit. Certainly, not me.
Just unbelievable with this line of thought. Did you not hear what the NC DA said in that no charges should have been filed in the first place? There was total incompetence on the part of Nifong, yet you REFUSE to admit this woman was a lying scum who destroyed the lives of 3 innocent men.
Then you come back with this comment that was insane.
“So, if these guys were in fact falsely accused, they got a taste of how black men are treated EVERY DAY by the criminal justice system.”
Oh well who cares if they are innocent people who were victims of a whacked woman, now they get to see how others feel now.
My God are you even reading what you are writing and truly believe this? If this is what you truly believe, I think you might want to go seek some professional help.
Ok guys, sorry. I should have used the word “karmic” instead of “divine”.
But is there some way to make the false accuser pay, one way or another? It’s a bad sign that the Duke skank is being let off on the grounds that she’s deranged.
Then again, if that is true, then we should go after Mr. Nifong all the harder for trying to prosecute based upon the testimony of an obvious lunatic.
We should ask OJ how thats working out for him.
sorry, couldn’t resist.
I can’t remember the post, Nick—I think it was a post on sexual harassment seminars—where we had a long discussion about whether or not false allegations should carry heavier criminal penalties.
You can probably find it doing a site search, but if I’m remembering correctly, it was a pretty decent discussion.
Typical of the left to use sweeping generalizations when accusing the rest of us of sweeping generalizations.
Wait, did I just make a sweeping generalization?
Shame on me!
Now what the hell am I going to do with my season tickets to Duke Women’s Lacrosse? I see the way they look at me. All hungry and shit. I’m scared.
You all miss the Bigger Issue here! Don’t get bogged down in the details of who raped who…It’s all about Society, baby, and how the ofay KKKapitalist sticks it to The People. Don’t you remember the famous scene in that movie?
Ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests – we did.
But you can’t hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn’t this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg – isn’t this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
I think it was Gregory Peck, IIRC.
By all accounts the accuser has mental/emotional problems. I think it would be a mistake to focus the anger on her. Not surprisingly, it is common for people who are not tracking reality very well to make false charges.
When the system is working properly, the police and prosecutor filter out charges that cannot be substantiated. In this case that didn’t happen, because people like Samhita hijacked the accuser to use as a stalking horse for their own political agendas.
It wasn’t just that people like Samhita were emboldening Nifong. If it wasn’t for people like Samhita, Nifong would have tried to get elected by prosecuting crimes, rather than committing them. The only reason he went after the Lacrosse players was to curry favor with the black community and elite white liberals.
Her conclusion is priceless (and I’d post there if I wasn’t afraid of contracting Teh Dumb from their registration bot):
Delicious irony, considering that she perfectly describes the problem without realizing her part in it.
Truthiness trumps facts! F***! We’re doomed!
Stripped away of all its ‘educated’ pretense, leftism is coalitional tribalism. The race pimps will never apologize for ‘defending one of their own’, because that is the sum total of their politics. Their entire program is the assembly of just enough identity groups to get a plurality of votes in a majority of Congressional districts and states, then use their power to take from the rest of us for the benefit of the coalition members.
When they accuse us of choosing sides on a racial basis, they’re projecting. That’s what they do. When one of ‘ours’ does wrong, we punish them. When one of theirs does wrong, they circle the wagons. That’s why Nixon resigned, but Clinton went through the impeachment and trial.
Therefore the only people who can ever be judged objectively are (Judeo-?)Christian Heterosexual Anglophone White Males, or anyone else who refuses to toe the party line (Michelle Malkin, the prostitute for Bill O’Reilly, pace Malik Shabazz).
TW: Preview: her54 means an identity group representing 3% of the voters could be cut loose, and thus divide the spoils less. Submit: pay52 I was only off by one. Damn, this thing is scary.
Thanks, Aldo, for getting to my point better than I could. Is there some way, karmic or otherwise, to make Samhita and her ilk pay for trying to ruin certain people’s lives?
Just asking.
Because America, relatively speaking is SO good, SO advanced, SO enlightened – compared to many, many past cultures and civilizations that you have to really work hard to invert , er , invent grievances to keep your leftist agenda rolling.
But of course, like Evan Sayet wryly pointed out, the only way to make the world ‘right’ is to make everything ‘right’ wrong so it is no longer worth fighting for.
I take issue with anyone who is part of that machine.
PS – Thanks, PN. I don’t often have the time to actually comment, but I do often read the comments and Jeff’s/Dan’s posts.
Well as Andrew Sullivan says “Since whites still enjoy vastly more cultural power than blacks, Sharpton’s bigotry is more defensible than Imus’s.”
Relativism: it’s not just for your congressperson.
Her Bio is CLASSIC:
“Samhita is a 28 year old grad student and blogger living in San Francisco. She is currently finishing up her MA in Women’s Studies at San Francisco State University. She is also working as a blog consultant for New American Media. A graduate of SUNY Albany’s Women’s Studies/Sociology programs, Samhita’s passions are trans-national feminisms, veganism, theories of knowledge production, electronic music and fashion. She lives in the Mission District and is a reformed party girl.”
San Francisco? Who would’ve figured? LMAO.. What in the world is “theories of knowledge production”? I think she definitely needs more knowledge production…
and BTW, I’m a female…
I’m going to try that out on the next hot black chick I meet. “What? Of course I don’t think of you that way. It would be ILLEGAL! Quite illegal in fact. So can I buy you a drink? I bet that black guy is objectifying you. Not me though. Illegal”
I’m afraid that even a “not guilty” verdict wouldn’t get you off the hook in the eyes of people like Samhita. An acquital only means that there’s a reasonable doubt about guilt. It’s not a finding of actual innocence. Samhita and her ilk would probably hold up that distinction to claim that “no one knows what happened,” or that the accused still did it.
It would probably take multiple eyewitnesses and video/electrnoic evidence to get someone off the hook in her eyes. Even then, you better hope you’ve lived a spotless life and have the right political views, because if you haven’t she’ll hold up your transgresssions to proclaim you an evil misogonist who just got a taste of the injustice that women and brown people (*shudder*) experience every day.
I think if I ever met -in person- someone who informed me that they had an MA in “feminism”, I might laugh in their face. Hopefully I could keep it to quit giggles.
Gratuitous Monty Python ref:
“Now let’s not BICKER and ARGUE about who raped who… This is supposed to be a SYMBOLIC occasion…”
It’s interesting that a lot of the other feminist bloggers haven’t said a peep about the outcome of this case. They at least, it seems, have the good sense to cut their losses. This one…not so much.
Well, you know what they say, if you can’t produce knowledge, theorize about producing it.
I’m not surprised she lives in my neck of the woods, and that she is part of my tax dollars at work.
Where is the HUAC when academia needs it most?
So, since Mormons don’t hold a particularly large amount of “cultural power” vs. the traditional Judeo-Christian background of the U.S., I can convert to Mormonism and any bigotry I have/develop can be excused.
I am going to look so fabulous in that special underwear.
No it wouldn’t. The eyewitnesses were bought off by the pale male patriarchy. The PMP also had all of the electronic/video evidence erased and replaced with fakes (ATMs? Puh-lease-DIEBOLD makes those!)
If fire won’t melt or weaken steel, there is no telling what the PMP can do, except everything.
Among the many absurdities on display, why aren’t these loony girls kicking Mike Nifong’s ass from here to Sunday for “botching” the investigation? That is part of their narrative, part of the silliness they cling to in order to right the ship. I’ve heard no criticism from them for Mike’s incompetence making it that much harder for black strippers to get an even shake under the law, you’ll pardon the terrible pun.
Oh, and “rape rooms”. Not cool. You say no more Nick.
“Samhita is a 28 year old grad student and blogger living in San Francisco. She is currently finishing up her MA in Women’s Studies at San Francisco State University. She is also working as a blog consultant for New American Media. A graduate of SUNY Albany’s Women’s Studies/Sociology programs, Samhita’s passions are trans-national feminisms, veganism, theories of knowledge production, electronic music and fashion. She lives in the Mission District and is a reformed party girl.â€Â
Translation: She is certifiably full of shit.
Terri,
I believe that’s more commonly referred to as “Ways to make shit up”.
Hey, I’m fresh out of White Priviledge? Can I borrow a bottle from someone? I’ll pay you back on the 1st.
The once proud neocon warriors fighting over the scraps of some fringe left roadkill?
Almost sad.
Almost.
LOL. I just threw up a little in my mouth. What a laughable cliche of a human being. That bio says to me that every single word that is expelled from her being is a bunch of fucking horseshit.
That said, did it ever occur to these brain-dead apologists for The Liarâ„¢ that maybe, JUST MAYBE, The Liarâ„¢ might have done actual rape victims an immeasurable disservice? Or does that not fucking matter because The Liarâ„¢ is black, and rape victims aren’t as victimized as people with darker skin?
Fuck those fascist faux-feminists. They’ll be screaming bloody murder next time there’s a big rape case in the media when nobody believes the accuser, without realizing it’ll be on their hands.
And! I don’t want to hear shit from Al Sharpton ever again. He’s drawn to these frauds like flies on shit. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who accepts his “help” is asking to be looked at as a fraud now.
SEXIST!
Not sexist, just thrifty.
Watching the hapless neocons take on the fringe left midgets is cheaper than ordering Bumfights 4.
If I’m not mistaken, this is Action Chimp’s first comment on any thread with any connection to the Duke Three since they were declared innocent.
And his comment consists of a snide swipe at the people who were right while he was declaring their guilt. No admission of how horribly wrong he was.
Odd, that. Almost like he’s too cowardly to admit how badly he screwed up.
O RLY? Well, you said yourself that a feminist site is “fringe left.” And here’s a tip: that site isn’t some “fringe” site w/r/t traffic, either.
But hey, that really doesn’t matter when all you have to say in response to criticism of stupidity is “look at the neocons.” What a fuckin’ amateur you are.
But thanks for playing!
Ruining someone’s life on the basis of nothing at all isn’t coll either, Dave. A bitch like Samhita would be happy to do that to you on the drop of a hat.
These people are no-holds-barred political murderers, Dave. Why do you believe you are only allowed to respond to them according to the Marquess of Queensberry rules?
Actually I liked Ace’s take on it. paraphasing here for brevity.
It must be comforting to have a worldview that is incapable of being proven wrong.
Black girl accuses rich white man. Proof of racism and class inequality.
Would there have been guilt proven? Proof of racism and class inequality.
When the new NC AG states he “believes they are innocent of all charges” (quoted)… Proof of racism and class inequality.
It must be nice to have a god that you can turn to who is the answer for every situation. I’m not familiar with the “racism and class inequality” god, but (s)he’s being worshipped this week.
And I am not a ‘neocon’. I am an Episopalian and an FDR liberal.
Let’s see: Baptismal certificate – yep, Episcopalian.
Big public works projects to improve the material lives of people and to heck with slimy small fish, aka, TVA? – Yep.
Emergency government sponsored work relief to help people rather than just send a check, aka WPA and CCC? – Yep.
Oppose tyrannies and Fascist governments, use the force of the USA to fight them, and long for the day when we can erase all from the earth and make them mere references in a library book, aka Examples too numerous to mention? – Yep.
Willing to cut deals now with some of the above tyrranies and Fascist governments in order to remove some now, aka Examples too numerous to mention? – Yep.
Believe that ‘Equal Justice Under Law’ applies to individuals and not groups, aka This thread’s topic? – Yep.
Go and rot, monkyboy, and your ilk.
And his comment consists of a snide swipe at the people who were right while he was declaring their guilt. No admission of how horribly wrong he was.
People can forgive you for being wrong, but they almost never forgive you for being right.
–J.K. Rowling, HP6 (paraphrased)
TW: …is the moral73 of the story
Alphie, hanging out in this moribund place, hijacking threads.
Almost sad.
No, wait. Just plain pathetic.
They don’t have to go far…there’s a case of rape going on at Duke right now where a frat boy allegedly raped a woman in their frat house. The local media and the grrrls at feministe are mum about it, though. I’ll let you figger out why.
SGT Ted-
Damn, I’m always been told that my “white privilege” knows no end… How did you manage to screw it up? :o)
It’s not that I believe black strippers are lying whores. I just want to know where the hell my watch and wallet are.
Welcome to—I shit you not—the sum and substance of domestic relations law, such as it is. I’ve held off going on and on about how it ain’t just blacks, folks, and it ain’t just strippers either.
It’s your friendly local court building and environs, typically housing some of the most fascist anti-male guilt-by-assertion types around. You’ll pray never to meet the folks making other folks prove innocence but you’re probably only slightly more than a phone call away from it as we speak.
This Samhita horror is so over the line there aren’t words. Good thing she doesn’t write for the quality people who once ran a Democrat presidential candidate’s blog or anything.
What a week. The Imus censorship benchmark and now the ugliness of overt race and gender politics rears it’s ugly head. Like it’s a message or something: Take care of your shit or your shit will take care of you. What’s that I hear pounding on the door.
Correction: “…strippers taking advantage either…”
Black strippers aren’t lying whores, except for the ones who tell lies and have sex for money. I would like to apologize to all the African-American prostitutes who are habitual liars for the preceding slur.
True enough, Jim, but you are treating people as individuals rather than identity groups, and that simply can’t be tolerated or the whole thing falls to pieces.
They accuse us of judging people based on membership in a group (again known as ‘projection’
.
Imus is fired yet Snoop dogg still has a job! What a wonderful country!
And if you’d have told me ten or fifteen years ago that Ice Cube would be making family comedies, I would have had you committed.
Sean,
After Cheech Marin became a school bus driver on a morning kids show….anything is possible.
He’s probably mumbling to himself: “Ok, ok, the Duke kids got away, but at least we got Scooter Libby.”
The accuser is supposed to have mental problems (according to mike nifong). Everyone else at the party remembers no rape. Maybe she hallucinated the whole thing. Accounts for her ‘remembering’ differently at different times (according to nifong’s office). I think this poor girl needs psychiatric help.
I’m afraid that even a “not guilty†verdict wouldn’t get you off the hook in the eyes of people like Samhita.
No, it wouldn’t as she goes on to say ”I don’t trust the courts” as well.
See, she’s set everything in a silly little box. She believes what is convenient for her political agenda.
Nothing else. If these 3 guys would have been convicted, she certainly would believe in the courts.
If I were as stupid as this woman, I’d stop talking.
PS – If I were as stupid as alphie, I’d stop talking too!
Loser, much?
I fear99 brain cells are all that little bitch has left.
You know what Duke U needs in order to keep it’s priveledged white kids away from those darker complected strippers and shit. A big huge earthen berm with some big assed baloons holding up a chain link fence. I’ve done the math and it could be built for less than what Nifong spent withholding DNA evidence.
I think I know what Chris Rock would call her and the men she hangs out with…
She got me at this part. ‘Scuse me while I laugh my un-feminist ass off.
You know the thing I don’t get about this is the fascination with the “patriarchy”. I mean, seriously, no actual member of the patriarchy with any dignity would ever have a thing to do with these insane feminazis. Kinda hard to comment on a group of people who won’t have anything to do with you, isn’t it ?
FYI, knowledge production ? Also known to the unwashed masses as “learning”.
Nothing quite as precious as someone milking the education system to the maximum extent possible. Still milking it at 28 ? Good lord.
My prescription to solve all her issues – a J-O-B. Come on, now. Contribute to society will you PLEASE ?
She could get that in jail while she’s serving time for perjury.
In a just world.
Check out this intro paragraph to a scholarly piece called “Situated and Distributed Knowledge Production in Network Space.”
You could read the rest but have someone on hand to vigorously shake you at regular intervals.
IF she doesn’t trsut the courts, why does she keep asserting that the boys weren’t found innocent?
What would it matter what the courts found?
Logic – Dreaded tool of the partiarchy.
You fight the power, Samhita.
Fight the power.
Another helpful tip for this once again new mother: Stop fucking.
Or, if that truly is the only marketable skill she posses, there’s Norplant.
It’s hard to keep them down on the plantation…
If the Duke Women’s Lacross Team really wanted to support these brave and wonderful young men, they would have provided a Live Sex show for the party. Why were these lads forced to spend 800 of their parents hard earned dollars hiring two lazy strippers, who refused to do a live sex show or strip because the lads didn’t behave.
And furthermore, they paid this money to two women one of whom showed up so out of it that they could barely do anything but take videos and photos (many had to use their cell phones) in an attempt to recoup some sexual gratification from their lost investment.
As a nation we owe these lads our support. But we also need new legislation: The Truth In Strippers Legislation. If we pay our money we expect a show, not someone falling down and possibly mentally ill. Who among us would not have gotten some lemonade from this awful situation by videotaping these women as they left.
While I do not condemn the Women’s Lacross Team, because it is possible the men did not offer them a chance to earn an easy 800 bucks, they should have stepped up to the plate and stripped for their brother athletes. At least the innocence of this delightful team party leaves a good taste in the mouths of Americans, as does Collin’s bravery in fighting percersion wherever he encounters it. Down with all pansies! Collin for President!!!! Move over Pope John Paul, there are some new saints in town.
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