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Your Tax Dollars at Work

Next time a progressive taxation supporter lays out the case for higher taxes, citing better roads and schools and maintaining public parks, etc. as justification—point him or her to this post at Sweetness and Light.

Then, as s/he sputters outs a strained response, politely interrupt and ask for $50 so you can buy a McDonald’s Value Meal for each of the 15 Christianist buddies you’ll be driving down to the local Planned Parenthood in order to threaten vaguely pregnant looking women with promises of eternal damnation and blown-up pictures of dead fetuses.  For Jesus!

Trust me. You’ll love the way they screw up their little faces and pout.  Like little progressive Koala bears who’ve just been told they are going to have to share their Eucalyptus branches.  So cute!

(h/t Dan Collins)

34 Replies to “Your Tax Dollars at Work”

  1. Farmer Joe says:

    <alphie>Gettin’ your money’s worth out of those tax dollars over in Iraq?</alphie>

    Just figured I’d get it out of the way.

  2. mojo says:

    Can you say “Aid and comfort to the avowed enemies of the United States”?

    “In December 2004 CodePink, Global Exchange, and Families for Peace

    raised and delivered $600,000 in medical supplies and cash to the

    “insurgents” who were fighting American troops in Fallujah, Iraq.”

    I knew you could!

  3. Moops says:

    501(c)(3)s are tax-exempt, not tax-supported.

  4. ThomasD says:

    So money that should be paid in taxes (since, by the letter of the law their activities are not tax exempt) instead goes to fund their chosen activites.

    I’d call that a subsidy.

    Hell, if I was a leftist I’d call any reduction in taxation a subsidy, not just the unfairly applied ones.

  5. Rick says:

    501(c)(3)s are tax-exempt, not tax-supported.

    To borrow a phrase from noted metallurgist Rosie O’Donnell:  “tax expenditures.  Google it.”

    Cordially…

  6. Jeff Goldstein says:

    TAX THE CHURCHES!  FREE CODE PINK!

  7. Moops says:

    So money that should be paid in taxes (since, by the letter of the law their activities are not tax exempt) instead goes to fund their chosen activites.

    I’d call that a subsidy.

    Most of the activities in the linked post are tax exempt under 501(c)(3).  The linked post overall does a poor job of explaining how the organizations are violating 501(c)(3). 

    Also, the Supreme Court has drawn a distinction between subsidies and exemptions in a similar context.

    But I’m with you.  Let’s just do away with tax exemptions.  Tax Media Matters, tax churches, tax the Boy Scouts, tax ‘em all.

  8. RDub says:

    Most of the activities in the linked post are tax exempt under 501(c)(3).  The linked post overall does a poor job of explaining how the organizations are violating 501(c)(3). 

    That may be true.  But it’s always worth illustrating what exactly it is these groups do (there always seems to be someone who is unaware of their agenda when they throw a rally) while enjoying their tax exempt status.

  9. nikkolai says:

    Those two dudes at Code Pink can really rake…Cindy Sheehan and Medea Benjamin, yeh, those are the dudes…didn’t they play double A ball somewhere?

    TW:mean46, as in “mean 46 mph fastball..”

  10. Pablo says:

    501(c)(3)s are tax-exempt, not tax-supported.

    Contributions to them are tax exempt, which means that dollars which would otherwise be taxed are not and go to support them. Thus, dollars come out of the tax revenue stream and support the 501(c)3.

  11. ThomasD says:

    Most of the activities in the linked post are tax exempt under 501(c)(3).  The linked post overall does a poor job of explaining how the organizations are violating 501(c)(3). 

    A typically expansive view of how tax exemptions operate.  Just not accurate.

    Exemptions are not pro-rated based upon ‘how much’ activity is exempt.  When a filing organization crosses the line the exemption is (or in the case of progressivist groups should be) lost.

    Or would you support tax exemption for NRA-ILA too?

  12. Moops says:

    Thus, dollars come out of the tax revenue stream and support the 501(c)3.

    Yes.  But again, there is at least a theoretical distinction between an exemption and a subsidy, discussed in the case linked above.  Perhaps it’s academic, but if “your tax dollars” are said to be supporting Code Pink, then they’re also supporting all kinds of churches, and you’re in dangerous first amendment territory.

  13. I think most people agree that taxes are necessary and would even, reluctantly, be willing to pay them, if only we knew they were actually being spent wisely and carefully in proper and constitutionally proper areas.

    That’s probably not been true since the US was first created, sadly.

  14. Pablo says:

    Exemptions are not pro-rated based upon ‘how much’ activity is exempt.  When a filing organization crosses the line the exemption is (or in the case of progressivist groups should be) lost.

    Almost. An organization can do political work and still be tax exempt, but contributions to it are not tax deductible. That’s a 501(c)4, and trying to fund one of those is a whole ‘nother matter. Tax deductibility is a major selling point in soliciting donations. 

    Political work in that context is generally lobbying, and any expenditure which is intended to influence legislators/legislation is considered lobbying.

    Code Pink should not be a 501(c)3. I can see Media Matters getting away with it, but not Code Pink.

  15. Pablo says:

    Perhaps it’s academic, but if “your tax dollars” are said to be supporting Code Pink, then they’re also supporting all kinds of churches, and you’re in dangerous first amendment territory.

    You would be if the First Amendment mentioned freedom of moonbattery, or freedom of sedition. Not to mention that churches do actual charity, like feeding, clothing and housing poor people. 

    Code Pink is not a charity, unless you count feeding, clothing and arming terrorists.

    tw: lines96

    Be careful where you try to draw them.

  16. emmadine says:

    501(c)(3) don’t pay taxes. If that means they are taxpayer supported, then so are tax cuts.

    And there is a freedom of sedition in the first amendment. You’re going to have a hard time convicting someone for pure political speech.

  17. guinsPen says:

    FREE CODE PINK!

    Nope.

    Not even if you paid me.

  18. McGehee says:

    You’re going to have a hard time convicting someone for pure political speech.

    On the other hand, misusing their 501(c)(3) status…

  19. emmadine says:

    How are they misusing it though?

  20. Great Mencken's Ghost! says:

    *sigh* And I’m printing my picket signs as Kinko’s…

  21. Pablo says:

    How are they misusing it though?

    Lobbying.

  22. Rob Crawford says:

    You’re going to have a hard time convicting someone for pure political speech.

    Code Stink provided cash to the “insurgents” in Fallujah. That’s not “pure political speech”.

  23. The Lost Dog says:

    “You’re going to have a hard time convicting someone for pure political speech

    Let’s throw this one to the I-Man.

  24. jon says:

    I used my tax-exempt funds to buy groceries, a yoga membership, gasoline, some magazines, beer, tequila, a zoo membership for the family, some underwear and socks, and utilities.  I am ready to answer questions before the Congressional committees regarding my egregious use of the tax code.

    In this case, I have to say the law is stupid.  That people can and do find all sorts of idiotic ways to exploit the tax code is as surprising as finding maggots in old roadkill.

  25. Mikey NTH says:

    Solicitation and conspiracy are still crimes, emandine, whether the actors are talking about knocking off a bank or overthrowing the government.

    Thanks for playing, though.

  26. emmadine says:

    “Lobbying.”

    That page doesn’t really make a good case for it. They correctly describe lobbying: “An organization will be regarded as attempting to influence legislation if it contacts, or urges the public to contact, members or employees of a legislative body for the purpose of proposing, supporting, or opposing legislation, or if the organization advocates the adoption or rejection of legislation.”

    But they don’t really make the case that code pink does that. “Tell congress to get out of Iraq,” for example, doesn’t really support specific legislation.  It’s plain old “educate the public. Then again, there is what code pink the organization says, and what members of code pink say.

    “Code Stink provided cash to the “insurgents” in Fallujah.”

    Well it looks like you’re also not going to convict someone with “scare quotes,” either. Why aren’t they in jail for this? Is the bush admin lax on prosecuting the war on terror?

  27. Dan Collins says:

    Hear!  Hear!

  28. Dan Collins says:

    Cuz we all know that, like, Imus is a political prisoner!

  29. Pablo says:

    “Tell congress…

    Did you miss that part? What do you think they’re doing when they’re picketing Pelosi’s house telling her to cut funding? What do you think they’re doing here? What do you think they’re doing when they’re rallying calls for impeachment?

    for example, doesn’t really support specific legislation.

    Ummm…they’re calling for legislation that does a specific thing. There doesn’t need to be a pre-existing bill for you to lobby for specific legislation. ‘Cuz you’d be lobbying the people who write the bills, and trying to get them to write one for your issue.

    It’s plain old “educate the public.

    News flash: Congress is not the public, it’s the Legislature.

  30. Pablo says:

    Why aren’t they in jail for this? Is the bush admin lax on prosecuting the war on terror?

    Good question. Have they prosecuted the leaks of classified national security information, including investigative and surveillance tactics?

  31. Moops says:

    Pablo, protests and calls for legislation that “does a specific thing” isn’t lobbying under 501(c)(3).

  32. Moops says:

    Or would you support tax exemption for NRA-ILA too?

    Yes.

  33. Pablo says:

    Pablo, protests and calls for legislation that “does a specific thing” isn’t lobbying under 501(c)(3).

    protests, no. But calling for legislation most certainly is when you’re doing it in the “Halls of Congress”.

    And if at your protest, you’re encouraging people to walk the “Halls of Congress” with their message, then it’s lobbying. It’s really simple. If you’re expending funds with the intent to influence the legislature, you’re lobbying. 501(c)3’s are for charitable work. If you want to lobby, you form a 501(c)4, and you surrender the notion of taking tax deductible donations.

    tw: point37

    Don’t make me whip out 38.

  34. Is the bush admin lax on prosecuting the war on terror?

    In the sense of the war at home; that is public relations, selling the war and the efforts, publicizing the heroes and pushing media coverage of their deeds, and prosecuting traitors… no, he’s not.  This is his failure in the war on terror, and we’re all paying the price for his dereliction.

    It’s not enough, in a democracy, to simply send the soldiers and give them what they need, you have to fight at home as well.  That’s the president’s job to sell and support his policies and convince the people.  President Bush failed us here.

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