From Gerard Baker in the London Times:
When President Bush goes into the Texas sunset, and especially if he is replaced by an enlightened, world-embracing Democrat, their one excuse, their sole explanation for all human suffering in the world will disappear too. And they may just find that the world is not as simple as they thought it was.
It’s been a great ride for the past six years, hasn’t it? George Bush and Dick Cheney and all those pantomime villains that succour him  the gay-bashing foot soldiers of the religious Right, the forktailed neoconservatives with their devotion to Israel, the dark titans of American corporate boardrooms spewing their carbon emissions above the pristine European skies. Having those guys around for so long provided a comfortable substitute for thinking hard about global challenges, a kind of intellectual escapism.
When one group of Muslims explodes bombs underneath the school buses of another group of Muslims in Baghdad or cuts the heads off humanitarian workers in Anbar, blame George Bush. When Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, denounces an imbalanced world and growls about the unpleasantness of democracy in eastern Europe, blame George Bush. When the Earth’s atmosphere gets a little more clogged with the output of power plants in China, India and elsewhere, blame George Bush.
Well, at least the blogosphere will still have Jeff. I hope. Maybe George can get a blog.
UNRELATED: Furriskey has an insightful post up at Bloody Scott.
Which is always the stumbling block in the path of reactionary leftist utopianism.
I’d read a GeeDub blog. He could call it the G-Spot.com or something. Seriously, an exprez with a blog would be interesting.
Plus, I’d like to see how he spells nuclear. Nookular?
It’s columnists such as Baker who have gradually sucked me back into taking The Times seriously again. They haven’t worked out how to fit all the words onto the new tabloid format yet, so you can only read it on line, but it’s definitely swinging gently away from the futile pc leftism of the last 15 years. Or 35 years, if you count Fisk.
Bushington Post?
Little Green Bootfalls?
StrategeryPage?
And when Bush rides off into the sunset, do you see Laura running for anything? Running from Washington, more likely.
The Eurocentric victims of BDS will be forced to find a new foil. Don’t worry; they will find one. Those that are unhappy with the state of the world will always find a target for their vitriol.
Think about it: Bush came in pushing for dialogue, pushed through education reform, allowed campaign finance reform, set up a program for nationalized meds for the poor, to name a few programs. He fought a sometimes rigorous war against theocratic and fascist regimes that made women subserviant, wanted to execute gays, tortured and raped women and children. And he’s the antichrist.
How would they react to a conservative?
Well, Dan, if blogging without Chimpymchitlerburton becomes too much of an effort Jeff could always sign up for an account at Kos’s site dedicated to parenting.
http://www.mothertalkers.com/
It’s – well – one of those parenting sites. Which if you have kids between the ages of not-quite-born-yet to ten and have been around the intertubes awhile you’ll know exactly what I mean.
Since the good people at Pandagon and Feminst have convinced everybody that ‘gender’ is one of those ‘constructs’ and that parenting skills or labels aren’t necessarily determined from physical attributes like, say, a penis, there’s no reason why primary care givers who are male couldn’t benefit and participate fully in the disKossion.
Using an androgynous name might make things easier for a bit.
I like Madame Manboobs.
Good question, Dale. I work for a very large county government (Prayers and thoughts are welcomed!) and I constantly hear complaints about that filthy conservative, George Bush. I just grin and walk away thinking kind of the opposite. I differ from the President in, imo, he is too liberal in the things that I wish he were more conservative and too conservative in the things that I wish he was more liberal. I guess that may hold true for many classical liberals. I do, however, agree with his over all goal and understanding of the islamist threat. I may not agree on some of the tactics, but I know that he “gets it”.
As far as the libs being confused as to what to do once he rides off into the sunset..they won’t be. History started for the loudest and most obnoxious of these vermin on the day he took office. Every problem down the road will be traced back to GWB. Remember, there were NO terrorists before he became President. There were not jihadists. There were NO poor people. There was never global warming, real or imagined. Every subsequent “problem” will be the evil spawn of ChimpyMchalliburtonSatanEatsBabyFlesh Bush.
tw: building69
Oh yeah, I’m an architect of love bitches…
Don’t worry, they’ll find a new object on which to fasten their hate.
The Decider Online.
I think there’s less to this premise than meets the eye. The left will go right on hating and blaming George Bush, for everything he did and everything he failed to do, until the next Republican president comes along. The intensity will be diminished just a bit, but he’ll be the gift that keeps on giving.
Yeah, they’re still having trouble letting go of Nixon.
Don’t forget Reagan, Pablo. Nixon and Reagan. Republican presidents before them seem to have faded into the woodwork.
Pablo
Yeah, Nixon is still a viable punching bag for ‘em…and they make pains to ignore the whole Reagan term (or dismiss it).
Actually- it would be interesting if he started a blog in which he could discuss something he enjoyed without having to comment on every political topic of the day; I’m thinking a baseball blog.
That would be pretty neat, actually.
Reading the whole article, it’s just a lead up to showing how Europe and the democrats are too nuanced (read: nancyboys) for their own good:
“Even as some future Democratic president proclaims his commitment to renewing alliances, he is sure to be greeted with all kinds of explanations as to why the Europeans are just not quite ready to make that a joint ownership. When that moment comes, everyone will be urgently wishing they still had George Bush to blame. “
Scary outlook, if you ask me.
MLD.
That BDS runs deep. Check out some of the comments on this CBS story about a small mishap involving the Swiss army.
Jeez, I bet they check for Rove under their bed before they go to sleep each night too.
Well, I know I check under my bed for Karl every night. But that’s only because I’m hoping he’s there.
Rrrrrrrooowwwwwllll.
Jeff, I think you’ve verbalized a fetish/fantasy so disturbing that it doesn’t even have its own web site yet.
It does now.
Once W is gone the BDS will gradually recede from chronic to merely acute. But they will always have Israel to blame. Well, on second thought, maybe not forever…
I predict the BDS will give way to the more generalized RDS (Republican derangement syndrome), of which it was always a subtype anyway. The next Republican president will be once again dragging us back to the middle ages, will once again be a godbothering fascist, etc. etc. It’s so predictable and tiresome. I mean, the things they say about Bush now, are exactly the same things they were saying about Reagan back then. Just replace Iraq with Nicaragua.
Rode a tank, held a General’s rank
While the Blitzkreig raged and the bodies stank
What is BDS if not the ultimate form of identity politics?
What will the right do when your lame excuse is gone and you’re forced to realize it’s your policies people, hate not your Wal-Mart greeter.
I’ve read that three times, and it still makes no sense to me.
Jeff, I think you need to upgrade to Moonbat 5.2. Version 5.1 (alphie) has always generated nonsense, but up ‘til now it was at least parseable.
The comma location makes more sense if you read it in a William Shatner voice–and I appreciate the exhortation to “hate not your Wal-Mart greeter.”
As far as BDS being ‘the ultimate in identity politics’, I can’t figure that out at all. I think it has something to do with alphie not actually being Bush.
I guess the identity politics part is: only a Bush-hater who is not Bush can hate, um, Bush….
I see, Alphie, so all those people out there protesting with the paper mache effigies and the Bush=Hitler signs and so forth are actually expressing disapproval of policies? Strange way of showing it.
Bush had an approval rating of close to 90% not too long ago, Gray.
Hard to hide behind the irratioal belief that 60% of Americans decided to just start hating him for no reason.
Unless that’s the best excuse you’ve got, I suppose.
Ali G: Is it cuz I’m Bush?
Sound principle by which to lead your life. And reminiscent, in terms of rhythm, of the traditional OE verse
“Teach not thy parent’s mother to extract
Ovarian juice by means of oral suction.
The dear old lady can that feat enact
Quite irrespective of your kind instruction.”
*lph**, let’s get one thing straight. You’re a an odd bird. But the thing is, the moonbats don’t call policies, “The chimperor”, “Evil”, “like Hitler” or any thousands of other childish names. No, they hate Bush. They hate Bush, because he is a Christian who wears his faith on his sleeve. BTW, I wish he wouldn’t do that, too. But, I don’t hate him. They also hate him because he’s the boss dog. He has kicked their asses for these past 7 years and they had to take it. Much like the majority of your intellectually dishonest arguments in here, they were impotent to do anything about the evil McChimperor. Oh yeah, he also stole the election in 2000.
Are you OK this morning alphie?
Disjointed thought patterns, slurring of words and difficulty focusing are signs of a stroke.
It’s a medical emergency.
Quit dicking around on the internet and get to a hospital–they can administer some drugs to prevent more brain damage.
I think pity is more what people feel for Bush these day, RFN.
The poor man has aged these past few years.
Shorter furriskey:
Don’t teach your grandma to suck eggs.
but25
if, and or
It should have been obvious to the BDS-enablers that Baker’s particular, damning critique of their pet-project would appear.
So, we can dispense with some of the Bull: we all know that Soros’ “savvy” media-constultants and Holly-wood message-makers who spun the hyper-personal “Hate-Bush” meme over the last six years, knew Bush’d be out of office by ‘08 at the latest.
But, they chose to propagate the personal meme anyway.
This suggests one of two things, and maybe both: one, that the “Hate Bush”-meme was a throw-away line and they don’t really mean it (the edible-underwear of political attack messages), or B. the Democrats’ “visionaries’” plans in 2008 do not account for an orderly Presidential succession.
Pondering the latter, we may want to call it “Election 2000-redux.” It’s as if the BDS-crowd expects Bush to stage a coup and stick around seeing as the dimpled chads say he’s “illigitimate” and all.
Fixed that for you, alpo.
I’m with you, man. I need to put that on a t-shirt, along with “The internet is not a big truck. It’s a series of tubes…”
Six, to be exact.
This is the stupidest damned column. When Bush leaves office, lefties won’t have to hate someone new, because the world will return to its normal state of perfection.
The polar ice will thicken, and so will the poor polar bears. Hurricanes will cease altogether. Jihadis will lay down their arms and go home to beat their wives. The French will like us again.[1] The Norks will give up their nuclear program and turn their attentions to inventing new ways to cook grass. The Iranians will cry and say they’re sorry and go back to just ordering hits on writers. Putin will declare the Soviet Union to be back on again, which will provoke anti-American demonstrations in Europe. Disco will live again.
Just like in the good old days.
[1]OK not that.
Grandpa, tell me ‘bout the good old days
Sometimes it feels like
This world’s gone crazy
Grandpa, take me back to yesterday
When the line between right and wrong
Didn’t seem so hazy
Did lovers really fall in love to stay
And stand beside each other come what may?
Was a promise really something people kept
Not just something they would say?
Did families really bow their heads to pray?
Did daddies really never go away?
Oh, Grandpa, tell me ‘bout the good old days
Grandpa, everything is changing fast
We call it progress
But I just don’t know
And Grandpa, let’s wander back into the past
And paint me the picture
Of long ago
Nostalgia never goes out of style, Angie.
You’d think a 100 million stinking, rotten corpses would amount to a bit more than a stumbling block. Or were those merely in their wake (no pun intended)?
TW:look58 pie!
Alphie was heavily into pretending that all of the epithets, personal slurs and accusations were policy oriented, not against a person, and then lapsed into verse.
Gray, I think you’re right; he’s having a stroke. In his case, it’s definitely a mini stroke though.
Speak for yourself and whatever band of miscreants you run with, *lph**. The idiots that I work with (purely anecdotal, I know. But isn’t it all?) and that I know hate, “hate, hate, hate” Bush. Why would you, or anyone else pity him? He made his bed. You guys just don’t like the way he made it. Too words…tough shit.
I’m not saying there isn’t a small percentage of people who just hate Bush, Blue. Maybe 10% at most.
But looking at the entire intellectual foundation of the right:
You just hate America.
You just hate the troops.
You just hate Bush.
It’s not hard to see why it collapsed like wet cardboard last Novemeber.
I’d say try coming up with something more concrete this time.
With the thrice-married, pro-abortion, pro-gay adulterer Rudy Giuliani the likely Republican nominee for 2008, I don’t think amateur “moral” propaganda is gonna be enough to win.
Oops, I had an *lph** moment. Two words!
Hard to hide behind the irratioal belief that 90% of Americans love him for no reason.
Um, alpod?
The actual words “I hate Bush” really, truly do pass the lips of these people.
You know what you are? You’re a BUSH-HATRED DENIER!!!
“entire intellectual foundation of the right”
George Will.
William F. Buckley.
Above please find listed above two conservative writers. They can arguably be considered as part of the intellectual foundation of the right. Please note that, unlike yourself, I won’t attempt to assert what percentage they represent. Since I don’t know, spweing out numbers would be dishonest. This is a restriction you’re not cursed with.
Anywho, I haven’t found any of their writings to reflect this ridiculous, false platform that you’ve conjured and declared to be the foundation of the Right. And, since the Right, like Operation Iraqi Freedom, global warming and Kyoto existed
well before Bush left Texas, you’re again, wrong.
I heard the words “I hate Bush” today. I asked the young lady why? She stated, “ He murders innocent people” I left it at that. Alphie, believe it or not, popular opinion can be swayed by media bias. besides whose polls are you referring to? CBS, NYT, CNN, NBC, Lefty Quarterly, ABC? Yeah, honest polls…..
What about if he just pushes policies that aren’t completely fucking insane? I think that’ll be enough. Far more than I’ll ever expect from your side.
Another tact might just be to have a plan that doesn’t somehow involve saying America sucks. You guys ever come up with any of those?
Speaking of Soros.
I wonder what role Soros will play in the 2008 election because this may hurt his credibility a bit.
Reagan and Clinton, SGT.
Huh. Just 117 minutes earlier, right here on this thread, you said 60% hate him.
You’re not very good at the whole consistency thing, are you, alphietross?
Noooooo pablo,
I said Bush has lost the support of 60% of Americans.
From 90% approval down to 30%(or less!) approval.
And this is the guy trying to teach the Iraqis how to operate a bi-partisan government.
Good luck with all that.
alphie,
I guess we all forgot how a bipartisan government is supposed to work. Since the dhimmicrats are the masters of bipartisanship….
alphietross sez:
Then alphietross sez:
You’re so full of shit you’ve got me looking for the flush handle. It stinks in here, monkyboy.
The really smart progressives, like little “a†will do what they always have done; turn their hate for Bush into blind love for any Democrat successor, like they showed the disbarred, impeached, accused rapist, Bill Clinton. In their eyes he could no wrong, but in truth he did little right.
Its going to be funny how history treats these 2 Presidencies & as Clinton has spent more time away from office, I think the more realistic his view of his own has become. I doubt that any Democratic President will ever show the same level of class that Bush (43) did by involving the former President in anything as public as tsunami relief, etc & most will react like Carter, Gore or Kerry have.
If a Republican wins again, they’ll merely transfer their very “rational†& justified hate unthinkingly straight towards him/her, unless something like 9/11 happens again. Then they’ll bite their tongues & wait a couple of months before rehashing their bile. The same bile, arguments, responses, judgments & talking points they have been reliant upon since Nixon. Unless anyone else doesn’t remember Nixon, Ford & Reagan being described as stupid, arrogant, pro-rich, anti-poor, elitist, reactionary, like Nazis, evil & the anti-Christ as well.
The truth is no Republican, no matter the accomplishments will ever be celebrated or given a chance to the left. To the left politics is all. Hell, little “a†couldn’t discuss carbon credits w/o delving right back into the War in Iraq, much like the left cannot mention any war w/o falling back into the Vietnam meme. Much like little “a†– the same person who claims to be a Republican, but is just another lefty liar – “progressives†are not intellectually or inherently honest enough to evaluate anything that doesn’t follow their prescribed line of thinking. Ask them why or to go into more detail than their talking points & you get their uneducated, base reasoning.
Sorry to disappoint you, PMain, but Rudy Giuliani will probably get my vote unless he starts pandering to the crazy right like Mitt.
For values of “pandering to the crazy right” that involve committing to finishing the job in Iraq.
My thoughts exactly.
Ever notice how these clowns never define the term “crazy right”?
And then alfitross says….
Assert. Refuted. Run away!
I don’t know how it works in Birtain, furris,
But here in America, not approving of the job a politician is doing doesn’t equal hating that politician.
The lazy BDS claim is just identity politics, the right trying to pretend we hate them instead of their agenda.
Nice act though.
errr, aphaitie,
In order to vote for Rudy you need to be registered as an actual Republican. You realize this, don’t you. Should we alert the leftist media of your sudden conversion or just consider it a bit of late night idle talk?
Exactly. So when you say 60% of the country hates Bush, that isn’t the same as saying they don’t approve of him. Which you just tried to sell us.
Why don’t you go find some stupid people to play that game with?
What are you on about, Pablo?
I said 60% of Americans who used to approve of Bush’s performance now diapprove of his performance.
I think that, rather than accept the fact that most American’s disagree with the right’s agenda, you guys have decided to hide behind the illusion that it’s personal annimosity that’s behind Bush’s low approval rating.
Clear enough?
THAT is what you said, Alpo.
Intellectual dishonesty, much?
Right up there with your “I’m a Republican” claim.
Go build a balloon fence or something, you lying twatwaffle.
I was pointing out the BDS ruse is an obvious crock, Dew.
I may have misspelled “irrational” but I think its meaning is obvious.
You yourself seem to have quite a lot of hate, though.
Let’s see, Gray said:
and then alpoo said:
And now you’re trying to tell us that you were pointing out that BDS is a crock? Well, sure, that is what you were doing. Because you were arguing that 60% hate him for good reason.
BTW, when did they start polling agends? Got links, you lying little bastard?
Now that Birt, he was a wanker’s wanker. You would have got on well.
The one conflating approval/support with hatred is you, alfi, for crying out loud. I could swear I saw you admit to making a mistake a few weeks ago, something to do with military numbers. It won you a couple of days of relative respect.
Lost the habit?
Yes, as I recall, he insisted that I was WRONG WRONG WRONG about a statement I made about historical casualty numbers, and then he apologized to maggie.
Yes, he even screwed that up.
Do you guys know who Ali G is?
You know, Borat.
Pablo I can understand not knowing, but furris?
No.NO. Pablo. That passes as logic with him. His parents really should ask for their money back. The educational system has failed him. Reason and Alphie have never actually, you know, met up.
And I’m pointing out you are full of teh poo.
You state one thing, and then say you said another. Do you think that we cannot scroll back up 20 lines of text or so?
We are not as dumb as you are.
Congrats! You FINALLY got one right.
It pisses me off to no end to watch what you think is honest debate. You make some half-baked, lame point, and then when the grown-ups hand you your ass, you make up a completely different lame-assed point. Then you go poison some other thread, usually with the same tired, lame-ass Kos Kommando talking point (you know, the one that got you your ass handed to you the day before… remember that?)
I honestly wonder if you have some new hybrid disease…. something like BDADDS (Bush Derangement Attention Deficit Disorder Syndrome).
I’ve had a flipping gut full of the left making the same crappy, worn-out, disproved, rebutted, refuted bullshit points. Every single one of them has been crammed up your ass sideways, and yet you and the rest of the rabid communist/DNC base keep plodding merrily along.
You almost never post links backing up your idiotic stances and statements… you just fling your three-sentence-long poo to see what sticks, while people here post well thought out, reasoned stances, usually backed up with informational links and articles.
But you know what really honks my hooter, Alpo? The fact that six years of my life were spent defending YOUR freedom to be a tool on the Protein Wisdom blog. SO many more deserve that…
You are a fucking waste of space, air, time, and genetic material.
Good day to you, sir.
Yes. We were at Cambridge together. He would have thought you were a wanker, too.