Ms Marcotte blames the Catholic League’s Bill Donohue for her troubles, but in truth, her anti-religious screeds (she calls them “anti-theocracy”—though the distinction seems rather disingenuous, given that her attacks tend to target religious people who actually believe the tenets of their faith), once exposed, offended more than just the perpetually aggrieved and controversial religious politico. In fact, as Kirsten Powers noted on tonight’s “O’Reilly Factor,” Marcotte and McEwan’s pronouncements on religion were going to make it difficult for Edwards in particular (and Democrats more generally) to convince people of faith that the Democratic party isn’t hostile to their beliefs.
And this of course brackets completely her pronouncements on the people of North Carolina, and her continued attacks on the Duke 3.
The rest of Marcotte’s resignation announcement decries attacks on her free speech—which is, of course, absurd. It was her choice to step down; the government didn’t demand she do so. And coming from someone who routinely deletes comments that challenge her worldview—both on Pandagon and during her brief stint working for Edwards—the charge is doubly ironic.
Marcotte writes:
The main good news is that I don’t have a conflict of interest issue anymore that was preventing me from defending myself against these baseless accusations. So it’s on. The other good news is that the blogosphere has risen as one and protested, loudly, the influence a handful of well-financed right wing shills have on the public discourse.
Sadly, it seems, Marcotte hasn’t learned anything from this experience. Instead, she continues to see conspiracies rather than geniune outrage—and in so doing, she continues to lean on the crutch of her collective rather than taking a good hard look at her method of discourse.
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update: Patterico has more.
Also, if and when the Powers video is available online, I’ll link to it [linked in post -ed]
Ace has less diplomatic thoughts. See also, Michelle Malkin, Professor Bainbridge, and Glenn Reynolds.
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And lest we forget, here is what Edwards is losing:
I’m not an idiot. I’m a twat. Get it straight.
I’m a hot, moist, inviting twat. Warm, wet, inviting. But not to you or your friends. Even if I were single, these nubile thighs do not wrap around the hips of Republicans. You can fuck yourselves or the dry twats of the self-hating misogynists who will allow you tiny penis to penetrate them. Have fun! Um, the wounds you get from rubbing you un-lubricated dick repeatedly into your heartless, soulless woman–iodine is your best friend, my be-scarred friend.
Not as awful as threatening to beat somebody in the temple with your joystick, I realize, but still…
(h/t Robert O’Brien)
More, from Mark Coffey
That, my friends, is what is known as a “Whopper.”
Whaddy mean well-financed?!
My joint is only twenty-two thousand square feet…
Starts with B and ends with itch.
Once an idiot, always an idiot.
It could be worse, she could be sleeping with you.
FINALLY got my paycheck from Rove.
Unfortunately, it is per word on this whole conflict…
So I’m just gonna sign the damn thing over to BK, get myself a delicious Bacon Double Cheeseburger Value Meal, no pickles, lettuce, onions, tomatoes, et al, and call it the oh, I dunno uterus-oppressing heart-stopper.
The remaining 22 cents of the paycheck goes to whoever can come up with the patriarchical better name for my burger combo.
Kerfuffle Watch Credits , Dan , Kerfuffle Watch Credits ……
I say we reward Edwards for his principled stand in this matter by referring to Marcotte in the future on as “former Edwards staffer Amanda Marcotte”…
It did? Must be a diffeent set of them intratubes than the ones I use….
hmmmmm, OHNOES, double PATTY-RIARCHY!?
Damn… and here I thought I might be able to get another photoshop out of her or something…
Why does she think it’s Donahue and not her own writings? Indeed, her own post just yesterday demonstrates she can’t help dropping gratuitous anti-Christian sneers even in a movie review
Do you think someone noticed that and it just broke Pastor Edwards’ heart after Mandy promised him, on bended knee no less, to be good?
So, um, does this mean that her, uh, writings weren’t parodies after all?
How must it feel to want to keep a postiion so badly that you debase yourself by claiming that you weren’t really serious, then quit anyway?
O RLY?
Tough keeping it real, eh Brunhilda?
Silly bint. What the hell did she think was going to happen?
In the interests of full disclosure, I am a Catholic, and I have a penis.
Why did she quit? I don’t get this at all.
Maybe she’s bored writing carefully worded boilerplate about health care.
Wow, that was relatively quick! I almost regret not paying more attention brouhaha. Sounds like this carwreck would have been fun to rubberneck at.
Darleen—that quote leads me to believe Marcotte has no concept of the Catholic reverence for Mary. Fer crissake (heh), a prayer dedicated (and directed) to her is one of the most common forms of penance!
Is it an hormonal thing, that some women simply cannot see the illogic of their rants? Am I sexist for suggesting this as an excuse? If so, am I a sympathetic bigot?
This may be true, but it is not taught as a doctrine by the Catholic Church, which regards the virgin vessel (Mary) as equal to the Ark of the Covenant. The Church could not find an equal in any mere man to al Mary; all failed to measure up to the task of carrying the Divine Presence and giving to God His very humanity. It is for this fundament reason that the Council of Ephesis infallibly defined Mary to be the Mother of God.
Why did she quit?
Part of the agreement with Mr. Edwards last week, I expect.
I knew it ! Dammit , now I want an upgrade from minion to at least stooge or preferably henchman ( with of course the upgrade in pay , you being well heeled and all ) . Failure to meet these demands might , and I repeat , might , lead to an Important Action Alert .
the blogosphere has risen as one and protested, loudly, the influence a handful of well-financed right wing shills have on the public discourse.
I thought the blogosphere was divided mostly on left-right grounds, with moderates and a handful of right-wingers taking her side. Apparently if you don’t agree with her, you don’t exist. Kind of like in her comments section. Certainly, however, the nutroots rose as one voice.
Why did she quit? I don’t get this at all.
She posted something really stupid within the last 48 hours. Professor Bainbridge and Dean Barnett (at Hugh Hewitt’s TownHall blog) both picked up on it:
The Christian version of the virgin birth is generally interpreted as super-patriarchal, where god is viewed as so powerful he can impregnate without befouling himself by touching a woman, and women are nothing but vessels.
Even if she sees the virgin birth that way, it certainly isn’t “generally interpreted” by Christians that way. Or does she mean that’s how it’s “generally interpreted” by her godbag-hating feminist friends who think Christianity is some misogynistic mythological bullshit?
And that proved to John Edwards that she couldn’t be trusted to keep her mouth shut. So he sacked her, but he gave her the chance of resigning rather than being dragged out, kicking and screaming.
I figured she’d be smart enough to blog pseudonymously somewhere else (that’s what I wrote in a comment here at PW; I said she was “addicted to hateblogging”). Hell, she could have used one of her co-bloggers’ identities on Pwn3dagaon. But no: her “integrity” remained intact because she blogged that openly under her own name (perhaps as a consequence of goading by none other than Jeff Goldstein?)
Part of the agreement with Mr. Edwards last week, I expect.
I don’t think so. Wouldn’t she have held off on posting some shit about the virgin birth if she was going to fade quietly into the night?
Like I am going to fucking worry about what some nut jobs who believe in that Catholic crap think anyway. Fuck them.
IowaHawk. Iowa Caucus.
Ahhh, you mean we in the RDU area will not have to get used to her talking about how bad we are to black people in these parts? I mean, why can’t we be as open minded as those people in her part of the country…Texas. She would do well to remember that Texas had a star on the ‘ole Stars and Bars as well.
Of course the twit did not even realize most of us in this are are damn yankees.
I am so relieved. It has to do with validation.
It was a quagmire.
And God so loved us that he gave us His only begotten Son to be born of a foul vessel.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t slap her with Lucifer’s cock.
You got to give her credit, she stuck to her guns. And by guns, I mean metaphoric phallic symbols.
Let the unfettered nastiness resume.
Her being Marcotte.
Molly Ivins, Anna Nicole, Amanda Marcotte, Dixie Chicks
and the month’s not half-over
Mandy could not hold her tongue,
so over the side she was flung.
Now candidate John,
will be set upon.
To netroots his name is now dung!
Her bloggings, so full of hate,
got her thrown off of Edward’s estate.
But she’s in denial,
that her hateful bile,
not Goldstein, was what sealed her fate.
Ms. Amanda PandaBGone comments about being quoted with her own words in full context:
Jeff: did you get any of this cash that is pouring forth from the right wing coffers? Does this mean we all get pie? I’d like ice cream with my pie if it is not asking for too much.
Edwards selection of Marcotte shows just how hollow the assertion is that the hard left is a vocal minority that is distanced from the levers of power. In that sense I was hoping she would last longer so that what she is would become seared into the public consciousness and become associated with the modern definition of the word liberal.
Daryl’s right: that was one of the stupidest observations she could have possibly made about Christianity–on par with stating the earth is flat. Strictly bush-league cogitation. She’s probably embarrassed.
I hear you, Bill, and all I’ve got to say is . . .
Breakin nuts with my vag-un’
I fought the Pa and the Pa won (twice)
I needed money cause I had none
I fought the Pa and the Pa won (twice)
I left John Edwards and it feels so bad
Guess his race is done
I lost the only job I ever had
I fought the Pa and the Pa won
I fought the Pa and the
Shootin’ Godbags with a pop-gun
I fought the Pa and the Pa won (twice)
I lost my job to do the blog-un’
I fought the Pa and the Pa won (twice)
I left John Edwards and it feels so bad
Guess his race is done
It’s the only job that I ever had
I fought the Pa and the Pa won
I fought the Pa and the Pa won.
I went back and read the “Children of Men” review that Amanda wrote. Let me get this straight: she’s, like, an adult, right?
I’m not denying that she is a decent writer. I mean the sentiments she expresses about male-female relationships are vintage 11th Grade. How has she managed to become an adult without maturing? Is she really this clueless? Inquiring minds …..
or for Pa won, sub Pw3n
Yes, Amanda Marcotte was felled by a vast, right-wing conspiracy that had the unmitigated temerity to smear her using her own words.
G*****n the f*****s who got Amanda kicked off Edwards m***********g site. A******s!
Here’s Feministing’s latest:
Myth-Busting Mondays: Feminism created sluttiness
Well, of course not, silly! It was the other way around! (I keeed! Kind of.)
This petition’s still meaningful.
No, I want her to have babies as soon as possible. For her sake. I know she really wants them. She just has her defenses up too high. Probably just hasn’t met the right guy.
This whole kerfuffle is making me horny.
tw:already45?
So she threw away her chance to be a part of the system, to try to effect change from within, for the sake of being able to hate as she wishes.
I hope it keeps her up at night, but I would bet she isn’t self aware enough to think of this as anything other than something that happened to her.
On the bright side, at least she isn’t strapping bombs to herself, or convincing others to do the same.
Yes, the patriarchy wins again!
We are men, men, men, men, men, men, men, We are men!
Instead, she continues to see conspiracies rather than geniune outrage
I’m not sure William Donohue’s outrage can really be called “genuine.” He’s made a living as a professional outraged person (turning the left’s victim culture back on itself).
And he wasn’t really outraged by the comments. He hates Amanda because she’s not a conservative Catholic. That she wrote a bunch of rude stuff expressing her views doesn’t change Donohue’s opinion of her. She could write like Mr. Rogers and she’d never get on his Christmas card list.
Donohue really does live up to the caricature Amanda paints of all conservative Catholics. That’s why she likes him so much. He validates her rants and makes a great villain for phony blog dramas.
But this was never about William Donohue. It’s about John Edwards, Amanda Marcotte, and Catholic Democratic primary voters.
Just because there’s some phony political outrage out there doesn’t mean all of the outrage is phony. Amanda’s comments were very offensive to a lot of people. Want proof of that? Liberal newspapers mostly avoided printing the “hot, white, sticky” comment ver batim and instead used Nedra Pickler’s whitewashed version (how does one whitewash semen?)
and I was worried this week was going to be boring.
Well, at least I can count on some round-the-clock watches at the right-wing breakwalls. We could be hit any minute with a vicious rant or important action alert now.
I’ll take first watch…which was from 7 to 9:30pm central time. Whew, that was rough.
In a post called, “Moving Effortlessly from Virgins to Whores,” Roxanne at Pandagon asks:
I reply:
It’s awaiting moderation. Odds?
(I know it’s juvenile, but I think it’s TEH funny)
The tragedy is there is nothing wrong with her a good deep dicking wouldn’t fix.
1. I hadn’t noticed.
2. I wouldn’t have cared if I had noticed.
3. I am always suspicious of a woman whose head is smaller than either of her breasts.
I think I noted that in my opening, Daryl.
The genuine outrage came from people exposed to Marcotte’s writings for the first time.
For my part, my concern came from the mainstreaming of hard left bloggers who balk at dissent and who never deal substantively with any criticisms to their positions. I doubt I was alone in this.
Oh, she doesn’t need sex. She’s probably bored with the instrumentality of it all. Various comings, and nothing happens. That’s why she has to toss her midnight trampoline and/or his condoms and do something RADICALLY AUTHENTIC.
Jeff
The Pandagon site is down.
She’s a GIRL, Jeff. Color me sexist if you must. I mean: Molly Ivins was a tough broad. But Amanda is a girl. Period.
Site might be down while she uploads some more stuff.
Sister Toljah’s title:
Disgraced Edwards blogger Marcotte Resigns
Disgraced, but NOT SHAMED. Hold your head up, Amanda.
I beleive I had Monday in the Amanda Hugankiss firing sweepstakes.
Pay up suckers
Yep. Amanda’s site is NOT down, she’s just uploaded a PDF of a document to the IRS informing on her main Catholic bete noir.
The site was down, I think, because they had a momentary panic that they were going to get overrun by nasty commenters.
BTW, they did approve my comment.
And she wants everyone to download, and mail it in! Not very nice, Amanda.
Ok not really . But I sure wish I had picked Monday.
Prolly what Steve said. But I got the message saying that they were being spammed.
How awkward is she going to feel in 10 years: married, a child or two, attending the methodist church in Arlington Texas (after her “come to Jesus moment” with a rough trick named Rosie), when some parishioner comes up to her and says “didn’t you used to write a blog or something?”
Steve
I just caught that….
a HUGE graphic of IRS form 3949 already filled in to report Donahue for “violating” his non-profit status.
Oh my… I guess they have to hold their acolytes hands to fill these out, eh?
Heaven forfend some person call a bigot a bigot without having the bigot sic the IRS on ‘em.
UPDATE
Three minutes ago, I accessed Pandagon.net and was confronted with a PDF of a sheet filled out for the IRS informing on some Catholic individual. In the last 2 minutes, that PDF front page has disappeared, and has been replaced with a drunken panda.
What gives.
one word:
Sloshy!
Steve
The pdf is still there…but you can’t get to the comments page due to “asshat spammers”
UPDATE 2
Now the IRS form is back, and I saved the page, just in case. I mean, why not.
Why, Ms. Marcotte’s protests sound like a clear-cut case of the walnut calling the pecan hard-shelled!
Thanks, Darleen.
Actually, I am using multiple browsers and some give me the IRS and some give me the panda. Whatever.
Well, I didn’t realize she was MARRIED. That’s a pleasant surprise. She’s almost there.
The best way to fight the oppression of your free speech is to try to stifle someone else’s using a government agency.
At least, that’s what I learned in civic’s class.
Marcotte vs. Donohue
This is where we root for injuries right?
I have to imagine that Ms. Marcottes personal diary/journal entries would be quite a thing to read. You know, if we knew someone who did that sort of thing.
Steve
Huh? She’s always described her pegging partner as her boyfriend, punkass marc.
Did I miss something?
Also, I would like to say you have anywhere from 45 minutes to 2 hours, 45 minutes to have a drink for Abe Lincoln. I am going to slam down a couple shots of rye for that right now. Later.
I put this comment on Marcotte’s site, but I doubt it will last, so I thought I’d put it where someone might appreciate it:
Heh- Good parody! You’ve managed to capture the emotional meandering of a second year “Womyn’s” studies” student beautifully. Seriously, doesn anyone who isn’t in college write like that? I laughed so hard when I read this, it reminds me of how the scrawny guys would talk when they were trying to pick up the lefty chicks. Sweet!
I mean, seriously, does anyone write like that after leaving college? You’re joking here, aren’t you?
And I will give you a hint, bitch: sentences like “The Christian version of the virgin birth is generally interpreted as super-patriarchal, where god is viewed as so powerful he can impregnate without befouling himself by touching a woman, and women are nothing but vessels.” are not only poorly written, they are cowardly. “generally interpreted” by whom? “God is viewed…” by whom? By You? By Christians? By the Left? THe Christian Left? Apparently by taking women’s studies you missed Comp 101. The passive voice is not your friend, unless you are hiding something. Your statements in the passive voice are meaningless. This is so basic, your english teacher should be embarassed.
I showed great restraint, and did not then instruct her to go have a baby.
She’s married? Wow! I admit I am a Neanderthal red state knuckle dragger, but I am having trouble picturing the type of guy who would sign up for that type of abuse.
On the other hand it just shows there is someone for everyone.
Nope…no objectification there at all…
Darleen: Jeff posted an update quoting Mandy saying “even if I were single” (I wouldn’t screw Republicans). So I assumed she’s married. I mean …. maybe I’m wrong.
Must. go. drink.
Geez, steve… my eyes just sorta rolled over that… I was in awe of how this Feminist(tm) may hate men she can’t subjugate, but she really and truly loathes women who refuse to buy her line of vagina supremacist sh*t.
Hey. At least she didn’t threaten to BEAT anybody with the thing.
PATRIARCHLE THREAD! (or however the fuck you spell that.
I think it was all the references to f***ing those who didn’t agree with her, while also saying they would never get to do so (as if they wanted to).
No one likes a tease.
This is all so much fun. Too bad it isn’t going to go on for another couple of years, as we’d hoped.
I’m in favor of hot, moist, inviting twats, and I’ve been fairly consistent in that position for some time. It hurts my feelings that Miss Marcotte could not leave it at that, but had to dilute her favorable mention her twat with yet another hateful rant.
Twat, Such a vulgar word for Snatch!
Nah, more like the right semen.
She’s probably licking her self inflicted wounds,
wondering who she maligns as her newest whipping
boy.
From the comments in Amanda’s “Children of Men” review:
Marc is a guy that fantasizes about escaping the violent patriarchy. NTTAWWT…
It’s true about how this high-profile job gain and then loss was what exposed most people to Marcotte. If I had ever read her before the last couple weeks, I am not aware of it.
I don’t blame her for wanting to grab at as big a prize as she could —even if it was only to be an online neigh-sayer for Silkiness— but I do blame her for being intellectually dishonest. And unprincipled! Don’t forget the unprincipled thing! Marcotte totally sold out and it made her guano smell different in the nostrils of all the other moonbats.
But it’s on now, see. That other thing? Nah. It was just a tactical feint on Marcotte’s way to theological certitude. Now she can explain to us all how the absurdity of creation myths somehow makes any difference to the political reality of religious belief and its conflicts.
Yeah, I think that would have hurt the movie a lot. Women are shown as rational actors, and nothing about this really implies that women are
I’m assuming not-Jim-Treacher has a slot lined up for him on bitter feminists with douchebags?
well done. what goes around, bites your ass. just sayin’. revel in your sloshy victory,
The Human Project? Are they related to The Human Fund?
oops, the links didn’t work.
What goes around?
Wait, are we now responsible for her decision to resign?
No, I think they are related to “The Human League” however.
cynn–
We don’t think we had a whole lot to do with it–I think. Most of us would rather have had the thing drag on. And while, in some sense, I feel sorry for her, she’s not the most sympathetic character. It’s not as though she’s dead, like Anna Nicole Smith. And though in some respects she may be less scummy, it’s not as though she’s shown as much intellectual integrity.
Going after the guy at the Catholic League using that favorite left wing institution, the IRS.
“Favorite?” you might ask. Hey, if they want to raise taxes, who is going to collect them??
How sweet. I’m not even Catholic and I support them on this one.
I just want someone to explain to me this; when did quoting someone become smearing them? I mean shit…if thats the case Vince Lombardi is gonna have a serious beef with me on the other side…..
Cynn: I defended Amanda keeping her JOB repeatedly hereabouts, so don’t hang that sign on me.
The most interesting point however is that by resigning she has more or less ensured that Edwards will go nowhere.
Henceforth, any time she writes a post about godbag patriarchs, hot cum, or “I’m a little twat, short and stout”, the material will be quoted and assigned to “a former spokesperson for the Edwards campaign”
No, that’s going to stick like …. like something, anyway.
Speaking seriously now, it’s incorrect to say that the character were talking about is less scummy than Anna Nicole Smith. Anna Nicole, to my knowledge, never expressed hate, and she never hurt anyone (except in the very attenuated way some say she contributed to a decline in our culture, blah, blah, blah…) And when Anna Nicole kept her weight, she was strikingly pretty, so her picture – reproduced for all out eyes by the modern media – made the world a more pleasant place.
Marcotte is an utterly worthless intellectually pathetic hate-spewing zero, who – when she acts or speaks in public – makes the world that much worse. With her smallness and hate, it’s Marcotte who’s “scummy.”
Steve,
I believe the term you are looking for is: Holy Spirit!!!
And also speaking seriously now, I’d like to say that I don’t think that at this point in the campaign it speaks terribly badly of Edwards that he kept those dopes on board. You know, Malking made it sound as though he did it simply because he was cowed by the netroots. It could be that, despite the fact that he’s a jumped up ambulance chaser, he actually had a certain modicum of compassion for them. And it could be that he hoped that a word to the wise would be enough. And it could be that he didn’t want to have to start eating crow so early in his campaign for the miscalculation of whatever dopey staffer it was who first suggested he hire them. None of those things is mutually exclusive.
So, I think that it’s a little hyperbolic of O’Reilly to say that it’s the worst mistake he’s ever seen a campaign make. I don’t think it’s true. I do agree with the assessment that says that this will cool the ardor of any other candidates who had thought to harness the passionate BDS of the netroots in order to mobilize, and then move to the center.
cynn
Edwards gave Amanda a second chance…whether or not she blew it on purpose with her little anti-Christian dig or just couldn’t help herself, she had a job as long as she behaved herself.
She has no one to blame but herself…but she’s doing a bang up job of blaming everyone else.
Damn but her attitude reminds me of the unrecovered-defiant-alcoholic husband I divorced 10 years ago.
Amanda’s site is back up & I just had to leave a comment. Funny, my posts used to show right up, but just in case I decided to leave this under this post regarding sending in an IRS tax form: