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Integrity [Dan Collins]

Barak Obama is a man of principle: He said that the lives of the soldiers killed in Iraq were wasted, and, by God! he’s determined to make sure it happens!

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update [jg]Compare and contrast.

44 Replies to “Integrity [Dan Collins]”

  1. peance says:

    I don’t think Iran thinks they’re wasted. We probably couldn’t have done them any better with all that money and lives.

  2. Toby Petzold says:

    The more one thinks about it, the more one must recognize that Obama’s candidacy is the limit of narcissism. I’m not offended by his opinion of American sacrifice; I’m offended that there is a political and media culture out there —occupying the same objective reality that I do— that is pushing this thing against all sense and decorum. Who does he think he is? Where are his accomplishments in this society that would justify the intensity or even the mere fact of his candidacy? This isn’t even a con job, jack! Run the flag up and see who salutes —what?! This one-third-of-a-term-Senator is the great racial shibboleth the American body politic’s been [waiting] for? “Are we ready?” You know: in earnest, probing, and monitory tones. “Are we ready?” Yeah, for a punchline.

  3. alphie says:

    Maybe he thinks he’s an American, Toby.

    You know, a citizen of the place where anyone can grow up to be president?

  4. gebrauchshund says:

    Maybe when he grows up, he can be.

  5. happyfeet says:

    I’m offended that there is a political and media culture out there —occupying the same objective reality that I do— that is pushing this thing against all sense and decorum. Who does he think he is?

    Toby – I would wonder but that the first proposition doesn’t negate your sentiment about Obama’s presumptuousness. I think it’s entirely possible that the media and Democrats have spec’d out an 08 campaign which includes Obama as part of a storyline that places all of the energy and excitement on the Democrats’ side. Looked at this way, Obama is being a good soldier.

  6. Dan Collins says:

    That’s an interesting possibility, happyfeet.  But I think that there is a strong streak of narcissism there, and that Obama is perfectly capable of seducing himself into believing that he’s the inspirational leader that he’d like people to think he is.  Signs are, he already has.

  7. happyfeet says:

    Right – not mutually exclusive possibilities though – and I’m not being terribly clever here – just a faithful NPR listener…

  8. Great Mencken's Ghost! says:

    Professor Obama needs to be reminded of Stephen Maturin’s dictum that “there is something about the oroffession of schoolmaster that unfits a man for adult society…”

  9. alphie says:

    Isn’t running for president always a sign of narcissism, Dan?

    Of the 300,000,000 or so Americans alive today, maybe ten will ever be president.

    Seems like thinking you’re special would be the first step.

  10. Great Mencken's Ghost! says:

    Professor Obama needs to be reminded of Stephen Maturin’s dictum that “there is something about the proffession of schoolmaster that unfits a man for adult society…”

  11. Dan Collins says:

    alphie,

    Maybe.  But this guy’s a walking, talking bag of platitudes.  Not that there’s anything wrong with walking or talking, per se.

  12. Dan Collins says:

    Closer, GMG.

    You’re kind of lively for Monday night, what? ;-p

  13. The_Real_JeffS says:

    Obama’s secret motto for the 2008 presidential campaign:  “Narcissism with a smile!”

  14. alphie says:

    On wasting the lives of our soldiers:

    I learn that the mission they were on was clearing the route to the site of an American helicopter that crashed the day before. The previous night they had cleared a path out so that the bodies of the crew could be recovered. Today, they had gone back to clear a path home for the Marines left to guard the airframe until arrangements could be made for its recovery and/or destruction.

  15. furriskey says:

    alphie, that would seem to be 3 civil posts in a row. Are you feeling OK?

  16. Major John says:

    Am me, why is my state always blessed with such inferior Senators… Creepy Dems, insane Repubs, hacks, symbols, etc.?

  17. BJTexs says:

    Methinks that this could be a clear indication that the good Senator does not have the wherewithall to run a national campaign.

    Obama has not grasped the concept that one doesn’t reach for a conclusion to a war by suggesting that the individual soldiers wasted their lives as opposed the the war itself being a waste. While this might play to the hardcore antiwar crowd, I suspect that many Democrats are going to be squirming at this verbal jab. Most americans are not going to receive this opinion favorably.

    He has now created the sound bite that can appear in any campaign ad, especially for the primaries. Hilary needs to continue to balance the hard left with the moderate middle (that moderate base being the fuel behind the Democrats’ gain in Congress this past year.) She can pound this into the ground while still pimping the concept that the war was mismanaged by Republicans, separating herself from Obama in the whole troop support concept.

    Obama needs to review some of Gore’s and Cary’s statements in this vein and ponder how that sort of distinction worked for them. Keep in mind that the Senator can’t even hide behind any justification on the basis of his own military service.

  18. nnivea says:

    The only way marines will feel their lives have been wasted in this endeavor is if the politicians choose to waste them by not allowing them to finish the mission.

  19. peance says:

    Only the first one, a former illegal immigrant, was a waste. All the rest died for the one before. so not 3000, just 1. We can afford that.

  20. Matt, Esq. says:

    Can anyone explain to me why Obama is qualified to be president, other than the fact that he’s black?

  21. peance says:

    if a UT law reject can make it, a harvard law review president can too. No surprises here.

  22. Squid says:

    Can anyone tell me where this “pants” troll came from, and how we might send him back?

    Much obliged.

  23. BJTexs says:

    if a UT law reject can make it, a harvard law review president can too. No surprises here

    How about running something significant like a state government?

    You know, experience and such…

  24. peance says:

    we all have different experiences. some of us, drugs in our teens, some go on for a bit more. Some go on to several executive and figureheadish positions. I’d say that these days, there are lots of people qualified to be president.

  25. Techie says:

    And so, Peance providing the example, quite possibly may be on drugs now.  Otherwise, he’d be the president, not that moron law school-thingy person/chimp.

  26. BJTexs says:

    It’s now confirmed that Obama is learning the Joe Biden Backpedal.

    Hilary cackles in glee!

  27. BJTexs says:

    This is what a Joe Biden Backpedal sounds like: (in response to a question about whether families of soldiers should get an apology.)

    “Well as I said, it is not at all what I intended to say, and I would absolutely apologize if any of them felt that in some ways it had diminished the enormous courage and sacrifice that they’d shown. You know, and if you look at all the other speeches that I’ve made, that is always the starting point in my view of this war.’’

    Also demonstrates a firm grasp of the Jon Cary Non-Apology Apologyâ„¢

    Good gravy, is it really only Feb. of 2007?

    Must up meds…

  28. CockLikeAHorse says:

    Affirmative action at work!

  29. TheManTheMyth says:

    Right peance.  And I’m sure Barak “Abe Lincoln Was Almost as Cool as Me” Obama never once checked the “black” box on his Columbia and HLS applications.  And I’m sure the fact that they had a chance to elect the first “black” president had no influence whatever on the then editors of the HLS Law Review, because we all know how CONSERVATIVE those Ivy League law students are, right?  I wonder what schools Obama/Osama/I’mGonnaCauseTrauma’s grades and LSAT scores would have gotten him into if there were not a magic “black” box he could check.  Perhaps this is what he meant when he mentioned how it is impossible to be black in American without being treated black a few days ago–always a big red “easy” button you can push, just like in the Staples commercials.

  30. peance says:

    Wait, you think he didn’t do well at Harvard? that he received some preference, say by virtue of who his daddy was? I still think that meets qualifications these days.

    Maybe there’s a box to check to get a magna cum laude. Or a box to check to direct a nonprofit, or a box to check to get a teaching position at chicago law. Or to spend years in a state senate.

    Its gonna be a real fun election season. Oh yes. All sorts of america is going to be showing up. And showing their colors.

  31. ahem says:

    alphie: you’re related to monkyboy. i just know it.

  32. TheManTheMyth says:

    My guess is you’re not conscious of your own irony, Peance, as you liberals are the ones who are obsessed with color.  Whatever happened to “not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”?  I tell you what happened–the left wing happened, and turned dreams of freedom, equality, and achievement into a nightmare of perpetual peonage to be served on the plantations of the limousine libs and their fellow travelers of the Sharpton/Jackson ilk.

  33. BJTexs says:

    ahem;

    HE IS MONKEYBOY INCARNATE!!

  34. peance says:

    Thats right. I mean, I’m the one that looks at the half-white midwestern child of an immigrant and thinks thats what got him that magna cum laude at harvard law.

    And then you tell me what happened, and what ilks are responsible for this. Its gonna be a great election season. Lots of true colors are goign to be shown.

  35. BJTexs says:

    Peance;

    It’s like you have fetish for colors, true colors and shown colors, an ongoing theme.

    Kinda kinky…

  36. furriskey says:

    I suspect Pants may be timmyb in drag. He is incoherent enough, he doesn’t make any points nor seem to have one. timmy b.

  37. BJTexs says:

    I suspect Pants may be timmyb in drag.

    Well, at least that explains the whole kinky color fetish…

  38. I suspect Pants may be timmyb in drag.

    Well, at least that explains the whole kinky color fetish…

    I wouldn’t be convinced until I saw something along the lines of, “but everyone agrees with me!!!” or “it’s popular!” and maybe a slightly mangled historical reference.

  39. BJTexs says:

    Polls, maggie. It’s all about the polls.

    BECAUSE OF THE SUPER MAJORITY!!

  40. Jamie says:

    Would it be relevant (because I do want to be relevant) to bring up Condoleezza Rice at this point? Stanford seemed to think well of her.

    I had a long disagreement with a blog friend about Dr. Rice’s fitness to be SecState. He (pretty much an uber-liberal, who hated Rice passionately for stated reasons including her inauthentic blackness) held that she was not up to snuff but never did give a reason; I held that the bar was set at Madeleine Albright, Clinton’s second-term SecState – and Rice can surely clear that bar. Skin color and gender were irrelevant; was she or wasn’t she at least as qualified as Albright? <crickets>

    Can a Senator be elected President? Well, yeeessss… but it doesn’t happen often (of 15, only 2 have moved directly from the U.S. Senate to the Presidency). Can a young first-term Senator, who has only been a senator (State before U.S.) for all but four years of his post-law-degree life, manage it? I find it unlikely. He’s never governed – which is why governors become President a lot more often than Senators do. So is he qualified? His work experience doesn’t support it. He might be – but we’d have to buy a pig in a poke to find out.

  41. Furriskey says:

    Jamie,

    The Spectator gave Condoleezza Rice a major kicking last week, saying that she was a useless Secretary of State who had been inneffective on every major issue.

    I have some sympathy with that position, although having been represented by Jack Straw and Margaret Beckett I am scarcely in a position to throw stones.

    Incidentally, (and this is a serious question, and I apologise for my ignorance), I now know the candidates for the Democratic Party at the next US election, but who is going to succeed Bush in leading the Republicans?

  42. peance says:

    Does bush really lead the republicans?

  43. McGehee says:

    Hate to say, but I think that mallard was on crutches before last November’s election.

  44. TheManTheMyth says:

    Bush is an idiot.  Why go into Iraq if not to invade Syria and Iran?  An historic opportunity wasted to appease the traitors in our midst (are you listening, alphie?)

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