Gay Seahorses. Personally, I have no objection to their marrying.
Following up on Jeff’s post regarding the tsunami of anti-Semitic violence in the UK, Melanie Phillips outlines the perverse rhetorical responses in the British press and polity, and adds this interesting information about British Muslims that I’d missed:
Last year, an opinion poll in the Times revealed that a horrifying 37 per cent of Muslims polled believed that that the Jewish community in Britain was a legitimate target’; 53% believed British Jews had ‘too much influence over the direction of UK foreign policy’, and no fewer than 46% thought the Jewish community was ‘in league with Freemasons to control the media and politics’.
I’m sure Alphavictim will have responses.
At Gates of Vienna, the Baron has an interesting true/false quiz regarding our attitudes toward Islam.
Hezbollah admits it is supplied through Iran and Syria. h/t Captain Ed, who also has George Soros calling for the denazification of the US.
I suppose I will respond.
There’s a game being played here that I don’t really understand. I understand how it’s played, but I don’t get the goals.
Take the linked post by Phillips, for example.
First we get this:
The number of attacks was up by nearly a third on 2005. More than a third, 37 per cent, of attackers whose background was known were Asian or Arab. Since 1984, when the recording of antisemitic incidents by the trust began, white attackers have been in a minority only last year and in 2004.
Implying, I suppose, that 37% of anti-Semitic attacks were by Muslims identified by their race.
Then we get this:
Come again? ‘Anti-Muslim racism’? Since when were Muslims a race? Islam is a religion. It is the Jewish people who are victims of something well-nigh identical to racism.
So, in this game, it’s okay to identify Muslims by their race when they are being accused, but not when they’re being defended?
Strange little game indeed.
I think that the thinking is that these people are described in the UK with respect to the part of the world from which their family immigrated. Further, that it is statistically quite likely that this makes them self-identifying Muslims. Further, that 37% is a rather high figure with respect to the percentage of the general population.
It’s funny, though, that some of the people who were appalled, as I was, by white yobs’ Paki bashing in the 80s find it difficult to believe that Jews might be subject to similar treatment at the hands of people who dislike them.
There’s a shocker.
Damn Freemasons. Running around in their stupid fez’…. ooops those are the Shriners sorry.
Then there’s Elks, Moose, Skull and Bones,
and those asshole Rotarians. Sneaky frickin whitey backstabbers…
I don’t even know any of these people…. see how frickin sneaky they are?
Alfie… are you a Freemason? Because I noticed you just sorta glided by that part of the article and you guys do that.
tw: I met46 of ‘em and didn’t even know it.
Alphie:
Do you believe that Jews are in league with Freemasonry to control the media?
I just wanted to say that as a conservative trying to learn tolerance, I can handle the jooos, but mixing jooos with freemasons is beyond the pale(read: not very white of them).
Bastards.
“Dag nabbit, Maw! FREEMASONS!
Go git mah scatter-gun!”
SB: student37
GPA: 0.0
If the British government initiated a program to eradicate Jews, 50% of British Muslims would likely express outrage that the British government ‘spends so much time and energy dealing with the Jews.” First they came for the Jews, and I said nothing. Then they came for the Jews again. And again. Etc…
Alphie,
So if Joooos are attacked by non-Muslims, that doesn’t count?
I hope someday you eat enough LSD to make you think about the real world. I’m not counting on it though. It appears that your mother ate enough for both of you while she was waiting for you were born.
Could I have actually meant “to be”?
Doubtful. I am a “Righty” – as opposed to a “Wrongey”
I am increasingly nervous about the state of affairs in Europe, especially England. Why do they tolerate this crap? I have been watching the chatter among the chavs, because it is funny, but it’s becoming stridently directed against the Jews. Is this some acceptance of internal tension inherent in any former empire-nation? Scary times.
I love Seahorses like some girls love ponies and unicorns.
I wonder if there are gay unicorns.
OK, alphie, it’s Sunday and I’m feeling Christian, so I’ll try to explain to you:
Asian or Arab. As opposed to ‘white’. No reference to religion.
Implying, you suppose.
IMPLYING, YOU SUPPOSE.
?
Well, alphie, the only person who has done that here is you.
Strange little alphie indeed.
Me too. I used to have a unicorn painted on the wall of our family room, but I could never talk it into having sex with me.
So – who knows?
TW: car 68. Jeff? Could you please not use any numbers above 58? They really bum me out!
O.K. O.K.
Last one. I promise (kinda).
Soros? “De-nazification?”
Soros woulden’t know a Nazi even if he was one. He also probably thinks that Jack Black is cool.
TW: having19. Don’t we all wish…
Maybee,
If you can lay your hands on a copy of Under the Hill, by Aubrey Beardsley, you will learn more about the sexual predelictions of the unicorn than anyone could use in a lifetime of wanton abandon.
furriskey: Something tells me that the Jewish backlash has just begun. I will be honest; I am resentful toward Israel, because the state is high-maintenance. There seems to an unofficial military and diplomatic policy toward Israel which frankly seems patronizing and overweening.
Events in the Middle East only compound the animus toward Israel. By extension, the Jews are included. They are not Israel, and Israel is not them. —Or maybe it is, depending on the source. But Jews are caught in the crossfire.
Yeah, I’m resentful toward them, too, trying to exist in the middle of all that delicious Araby.
Feh. Shitty little country. Why won’t they just roll over and give up? Or at the very least move to Florida and Arizona like the non-inconvenient Hebes.
Shriners are Masons!
Soylent Green is people!
Joanie is Chachi!
(One of the above is not true.)
Ah, the arab branch of the freemasons…. sneaky white bastards masquerading as Moroccans. Didn’t I see one of them fez hats on Kaddafi (Qaddafi whatever)?
Sneaky…. just like the sneaky jews to get Libyan and Moroccan headgear and then act like freemasons in order to decive the world
Cynn,
My father is an Arabist, my brother is an Arabist, I was an Arabist. I was born and brought up in Lebanon, Egypt, Yemen, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
I honestly do not understand how you can speak of Israel and the Jews as though anything which is happening to them is suitable grounds for your resentment.
I would admit to being rather resentful myself over the way some of the massively wealthy Arab countries I have lived in have treated the Palestinians.
And all of this time I have been burdened with the Actus and the delightful Cynn I have ignored. Cynn, come to me… come to my arms you magnificent infidel!!!
Furriskey: First, what is an “Arabist?” The -“ist” suffix is pretty definite. It’s declaratory.
Same with “Islamist” or “jihadist”
Now there’s Jewish—“ish” —that suffix seems equivocal, iffy. It connotes a temporary state of being. Do you think by adopting the “ist” suffix there would be more acceptance? Doubt it.
Abu, Babu, bananafana you know the rest.
Cynn,
It really isn’t difficult.
An Arabist is a person learned in Arabic culture, history and language.
It is in the dictionary. It doesn’t have anything to do with Jihadist or Communist or Feminist.
As for Jewish, if we are going to descend to wit, and why not, I direct you to Jonathan Miller in Beyond the Fringe. “Of course, I’m not really a Jew. Just Jew ish”
OK? Happier now? I am going to go & have lunch with some mates and watch the recording of England stuffing Scotland 42-20 last night.
Cynn-
Why not take a couple of hours and aquaint yourself with the history of Palestine?
It really couldn’t hurt you, and you might come away with some semblance of an understanding of what is really going on over ther.
Yeah. It was painful for me, too.
Here’s hint #1 –
The Joooos did not arrive in Palestine with guns blazing.
You are a genius, my Lord.
Cynn – I resent the Jew because I promised I’d help her get her apartment together cause her parents are coming in from Nashville and she called today and is holding me to it. High maintenance doesn’t even begin. But the backlash has begun cause I’ve already decided that when I take her to breakfast tomorrow before we get started on her apartment, I’ll order myself a plain cup of coffee and not the french press stuff even though I know she really loves it, having crafted a whole little french-press ritual rivalling anything the Japanese have ever done with tea. Unless, of course, she sneakily says something like, “You don’t want to get the french press?”
Uh, no. Unicorns don’t exist.
Uh to you, Sean M. If unicorns don’t exist, how can there be an Aubrey Beardsley book about their sex lives?
Nice try, furris,
If this pairing was just an attempt to show attacks by non-whites, why not include the 14% of attacks committed by “Blacks”?
The authors of the source report also attempt to link attacks by “Asians” to the Middle East.
From page 12 of the report B Moe was kind enough to link to:
One interesting detail is that the percentage of perpetrators of antisemitic incidents who were
identified as being of Asian appearance stood
at 22 per cent in 2004, 18 per cent in 2005
and 29 per cent in 2006.
This may reflect the fact that the trigger events for antisemitism in 2004 and 2006 were mostly related to the Middle East, whereas in 2005 there were fewer trigger events from that part of the world.
Having just 7.8% of the attacks committed by “Arab” attackers doesn’t quite fit the story.
Paired those attacks with the 29% of the attacks committed by “Asian” and you’ve got a trend, though!
damn ninjas
By “nice try” I suppose you mean that I didn’t manage to explain it to you.
Well, I can only use the tools at hand, and those require a degree of ability to comprehend on the part of the teachee, (that’s you, alphie.)
Your understanding of this particular case would probably (ok, possibly) be helped if you knew that as far as the Race Industry in Britain is concerned, “Asian” means anyone from Turkey to Japan inclusive.
But even given that, your failure to see that the only person here actually conflating race with religion here is you suggests that I may have been wasting my time from the start, which is a shame.
Now I’m going to Mumbai until Thursday, to Interact with some predominantly Non Islamic, Non Jewish, Non Christian Internationals. Try to behave while I’m away or I’ll tell timmy where you live.
So you’re saying immigrants from Tokyo got so upset about events in the Middle East in 2004 and 2006 that they decided to assault a few British Jews, furris?
Is that how you read the snippet of the report I posted above?
Why do I picture your “interactions” with the residents of Mumbai involving a bullhorn and a tin cup?
No, I’d imagine he’s saying that a lot of those people were immigrants predominantly from certain parts of the former British Empire. Like, say, Pakistan and India. Some of those people–who are from Asia–are Muslims. Like others have pointed out, the word “Asian” is commonly used in the UK to describe such people.
No, Alphie, and you would have to be a moron to arrive at that interpretation. QED.
By “Asian” in this context, the report meant Bangladeshi, predominantly from Sylhet, and Pakistani, predominantly from Karachi.
When you know nothing, try to keep your mouth shut. That way it will take us longer to establish the full parameters of your ignorance.
Sounds like you’re now agreeing with my earlier point now, furris.
The phrase “Asian or Arab” is indeed intended to be read as “Muslims.”
Full circle?
Maybe you do have an open mind after all.
Wow, you’re still talking to alphie?
I’ll tell you what, since no one has made an offer on my human sized hamster wheel, I’m going to sweeten the deal with a section of brick wall, perfect for bashing your head against. That way, after you’ve worn yourself out without getting anywhere, you can inflict needless pain upon yourself!
Y’all know you want it! Any takers?
Folks, a-bot is going to waste his precious outrage on people who attack Jews and increasing anti-semitic attitudes. No, he has to save that for the people who point out that anti-semitic attitutdes and attacks are on the rise. Those are truly the evil people, because by pointing out the problem they imply that something ought to be done. And a-bot is definitely against doing something. Or at least having the USA do something.
So you’re saying all Asians are Japanese?
It’s willfully obtuse, McGehee, and auto-contrarian. There isn’t anything there, really.
Oakland…?
I was thinking more like insteller space. Hard vacuum.
But it could be Oakland, I suppose.
The creature’s blind stupidity beggars belief.
me: I think Philips is slandering Muslims.
Furris: No she’s not.
me: The report she’s citing is even more explicit in its slander
furris: Of course she’s slandering Muslims. You’re dumb.
Mikey: High five!
Wonder why you guys lost the last election?
Hard.
Vacuum.
alphie: “if I move my hand up and down this real fast, I wonder what will happen”
alphie: “ Wow! That was fun! I think I’ll go on doing that, like, forever!”
alphie: “ And the cool thing is, I can do it all on my own. So I will!”