indcbill: got mortared today*
indcbill: 5 of them
proteinwisdom: You okay?
indcbill: yeah. a twelve year old kid got his knee blown out*
indcbill: and an Iraqi welder was killed
indcbill: fucking nuts
indcbill: scary sound, let me tell you
indcbill: that twelve ear old who caught shrapnel and lost an orange-sized piece of his leg?
indcbill: he was sittng there, drinking juice
indcbill: quietly
proteinwisdom: Awful.
proteinwisdom: So—was it an attack by one of those roaming Shia death squads that doesn’t want a peaceful or unified Iraq, but instead is bent on an incessant campaign of ethnic cleansing—the end result being the eventual installment of a front government that will be a mere proxy for the brutal oppression of any remaining Sunni Muslims, kind of a Bizzaro version of the pre-invasion Iraq, with Saddam replaced by a committee of bloodthirsty Shia warlords in fancy suits and expensive shoes?
indcbill: no, actually he was hit by maniacs throwing mortars
proteinwisdom: Oh.
proteinwisdom: Well, I have to tell you, I’m not sure I can believe you—at least, not while stalwart conservatives like Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Greenwald are telling me otherwise.
proteinwisdom: That, and once this Jamil Hussein fella emerges to confirm that it was indeed a Shia death squad responsible for the attack, and that the little boy was actually six little boys—all of whom perished in the attack, along with 20 women leaving a mosque—well, then we’re going to have what can best be described as “an information conflict.”
proteinwisdom: And with all due respect to your proximity to the attack, pal, you simply don’t have the cultural background to tell me what I should think.
proteinwisdom: I mean, don’t get me wrong: I appreciate that you’re over there, potentially putting yourself in harm’s way. But the fact remains, you’re there as an occupier’s puppet, a brainwashed automaton unable to see the desert for the palm trees.
proteinwisdom: Whereas Sullivan and Jamil Hussein? Everything they say fits perfectly—nay, exquisitely—with the narrative of an Iraq in chaos, where the rampaging Shia don’t want Dar al-Salaam, but rather relish in leaving Killing Fields in their wake.
proteinwisdom: Which is what many in the media here are saying, too. Along with a new breed of “sensible” conservatives.
proteinwisdom: And so it must be true. Otherwise, how else to explain the consistency of the tales?
proteinwisdom: QED
indcbill: well i’m just telling you what I know
proteinwisdom: Meh. Whatever, warmonger. We should just pull back and let the brown folk slaughter each other. I mean, it’s obvious, is it not? Sometimes you have to destroy the village to save it.
proteinwisdom: Tell me, Bill—WHY DO YOU FEAR THE TRUTHINESS!
Welcome back, sir.
Allah Pundit will be showing up to call Bob Owens and Curt at Flopping Aces jerks in 3,2,1…
Welcome back, Jeff. We all missed you.
Good morning, Mr. Goldstein.
Go ahead, make my day.
You could probably come up with a LOT of footage, and perhaps someone should, of reporters lecturing people on the ground about the “reality” of the situation, or even lecturing experts on their areas of expertise.
Kind of like that classic with the reporter getting shut down while pestering a soldier in Iraq on how low morale must be, when he responded along the lines of “Well, if I got me information from the news media I guess I’d be pretty depressed, too.”
Oh, and welcome back JG!
Does this mean I have to start posting here again?
Oh come on Jeff, don’t be so harsh on the media. Hell, someone has to tell us what are opinion is on all these matters don’t they? I mean hell, why should we be exposed to what the truth is when we have those academic media types thinking for us? I’m just saying……Original thought be damned and all…..
I’ll admit to fearing the truthiness.
Welcome back, Jeff!!
Bill tells me he has an interview with an Iraqi policeman coming that will set some of our defeatests’ teeth on edge.
I look forward to it.
I’m so glad to see you’re back!
Holy shit, Jeff. You’re right! We should pull out and let the animals rend each other!
Why didn’t I see it before?
Sooooo good to see you back, Jeff.
Brilliant… I laughed out loud, and that’s rare…
My favorite soldier quoute qould have to be a sniper, when asked what he felt when he shot an insurgent/enemy combatant, he answered “Recoil, ma’am…”