File under: Morons Behaving Idiotically. This is so unintentionally funny, sad and pathetic that I’m almost at a loss for words.
With just a day left at talks to fight global warming in Nairobi, Canada had racked up the most “fossil of the day” prizes handed out by environmentalists to nations they say have delayed, obstructed or stalled the negotiations.
As delegates boo-ed loudly, activist Maia Green said Canada had won joint first and second place on Thursday for, among others things, “misleading” the world, “repudiating” the Kyoto Protocol and “flagrantly … washing its political laundry on the international stage”.
Then she placed an oil lamp and Canadian flag on a podium in front of a poster of a fire-breathing Tyrannosaurus rex. Burning fossil fuels like coal is a big source of the greenhouse gases blamed for global warming—hence the name.
First launched in 1999 at the annual climate convention of 190 nations, the “fossil of the day” award has named-and-shamed countries deemed to have failed by the Climate Action Network (CAN) of green non-governmental organisations.
While provides a daily dose of light relief, organisers say winners find it harder than you might think to laugh off.
A Canadian delegate stormed away and refused to talk to reporters after his country won a “fossil” prize this week.
Canada has been slammed at the Kenya talks, which are trying to agree a successor to Kyoto, mostly for saying it would be “very, very difficult” for it to meet its promised cuts in the emission of greenhouse gases.
Other “fossil” winners have included Australia, Saudi Arabia, the E.U. and United States.
U.S. President George W. Bush, whose country has rejected Kyoto, was being honoured as “Fossil of the Century”.
It’s so densely packed with stupidity that one hardly knows where to start, though Maia Green seems a useful handle. Amazing that George Bush would win fossil of the century so early in the century, too. Storming seems to be getting more violent, as well.
This washing of political laundry in public simply must stop! It’s indecent, I tell you.
Meanwhile, forest fires may be part of the solution. That evil Bushitler ought to stop trying to limit them. FOR THE POLAR BEARS!
Inohfe: Crockoshit
As an example of U.N. brainwashing at this week’s climate change meeting in Nairobi, Inhofe held up a children’s book he said was distributed at the gathering, called “Tore and the Town on Thin Ice.”
He said the book, the tale of a fictional young Arctic villager who becomes aware of global warming when his dogsled crashes through thinning ice, relies on disputed science.
“This is paid for by the United Nations and it’s brainwashing little kids,” Inhofe said.
Inhofe did not attend the Nairobi meeting but said some of his staff did.
“What we learned in Nairobi is … that the real focus has little to do with the fate of the planet and more to do with money—who has it and who wants it,” he said.
Inhofe will be the ranking Republican on the environment committee when the newly elected Democratic majority takes power in January. Barbara Boxer, a California Democrat with long-standing environmental credentials, will chair the committee.
Boxer and two other Democrats wrote a letter to Bush on Wednesday urging him to fight global warming by putting mandatory limits on greenhouse gas emissions.
Algore: US and Australia = Bonnie and Clyde
“I sincerely believe if Australia joined the rest of the world community in the Kyoto process, then the pressure on (US President George W.) Bush would be enormous, just enormous,” Gore told reporters in Sydney.
His stupid movie, has, of course, been nominated for various awards. Chariot of the Gods would have been, too, I expect.
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Australia is watching that notorious polluter next door, New Zealand, shell out billions to pay for a Kyoto treaty that was supposed to GENERATE revenue for them. I don’t see the Aussies rushing to join them.
How ironic that the Red States will suffer far more than the Blue States if global warming turns out to be real.
Think I’ll bet with the scientists and buy some stock in the companies that make those little boats y’all use as cars when those phony storms hit…
Maia Green’s name is just waiting for fun.
Gaia Mean? Buy a green. By which I mean Maia Green.
It is all about the money.
-also-
Howard is the man.
Also, I have been told to inform you, that there is nothing gayer than saying ‘a la’ in a sentence. Its french, and prissy, or something. Its so prissy, that in fact, we should call people ‘a la’s instead of another derogatory term. Buncha a las.
In case nobody’s ever bothered to tell you that you’re a jackass and an intellectual munchkin, let me be the first.
If it helps, Dan, I can tell him too.
monky’s always been an a la.
How ironic that the Red States will suffer far more than the Blue States if global warming turns out to be real.
What’s more ironic is that global warming isn’t being caused by man. The polar ice caps on Mars are melting at an alarming rate. Here’s one for ya. Where does wealth come from?
Here’s the answer–and the granola eaters are not going to like it:
Nuclear plants. Lots of them.
And monky–please check page 121 of the Katrina hysteria guide and tell me how that whole “the killer hurricanes” are coming worked out this year. That’s what happens when you spot a trend based on a n of 1.
We have now reached the pinnacle of human arrogance: We control the climate on a planet where the temperature fluctuations of an ordinary yellow star a million time the size of our world don;t matter any more. Sheesh.
Simple question Monkyboy , your opinion on
Kyoto? Please be specific….. in a socio and economic way of course.
The “Global Warmists” are starting to feel the heat as more and more scientists come out of the dense underbrush of their political suppression that has taken place ever since the suppressors couldn’t sell the “global cooling” deal 3 decades ago.
I think they’re all washed up, perhaps this time they’ll go find a victim that actually needs saving, the Earth, the other planets (even the Martianless warming Mars and the icy de-planetized Pluto), as well old Sol, are just fine doing their thing that they’ve been doing since long before their human saviors arrived on the scene.
You forgetting Hurricane Rita, wishbone?
You must not be from Texas or Louisiana…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Rita
I agree with you on the nuclear power plants, btw.
Bill,
It would be a good thing to see if we can reduce greenhouse gasses now, just in case…
When Philip of Macedon (Alexander’s father) threatened the people of Sparta with the message, “If I enter Laconia (the old name for Sparta and from whence comes the word laconic), you shall be exterminated”, they wrote back the one word “If”.
If. It’s a powerful word.
Monkeyboy,
Do you know who drafted Kyoto ?
Nah.
Speaking of big blue-state urban cesspools.
Shove your hockey stick where the medium yellow star don’t shine.
Monkyboi. Wrong about everything.
Somebody should get monkytoy all wound up about M. Strong.
No, monky–what I refer to were the absurd predictions that the 2005 hurricane season would be repeated annually. Not so much, if you look around at 2006.
I want more nuke plants for very simple reasons–I don’t want to have to fight a war in the Middle East every decade or bankroll Hugo Chavez.
6Gun ,
I thought you knew better , let the trolls fall into the trap , don’t lead them dammit!
You know how science goes wishbone…every hurricane season is a roll of the dice…global warming means we’ll come up with snake eyes more often, not that every year will be a record.
And I’d like to point out that the Red States aren’t the only place in the world impacted by cyclones… the South Atlantic had its first hurricane in recorded history a few years back…
I don’t. But i think not only that you do, but that you got quite a long rant about it ready to cut and paste. Is he a ‘globalist’? You know, drafting a global climate treaty?
You realize, of course, monkeybutt, that that would make you a……capitalist!!!?!??!!!!11?!!!
[shudders in horror]
The South Atlantic, by most normative determinations, would be surprised to learn that, monky. What do you mean?
As the good socialist you most truly are Monkyboy ,how about you and me make some serious cash printing “Kyoto Bucks”, you know there’s nothing like us true “Climate Change “ activists to spread the loot around ……. as long as I get a Porshe 911 out of the deal I’m cool.
What’s really funny is that all these holyer-than-thou kyoto signitories have actually increased their greenhouse emissions themselves.
Not one has actually met the goals they pledged.
Sorry, Bill. But he’ll choke on “M.”.
Methinks somemonky’s posting from offshore…
Actus ,
The first time was free , as far as polite goes .If you want to discuss this issue , I’ll be glad. The last time I asked you to do some research , apparently you haven’t .
6Gun,
You know . They don’t .
TW: hot67……close but no cigar….
I is a “capitalist,” Bill.
I consider you big government Republicans the new leftists…you just won’t admit it to yourselves.
Kinda like Ted Haggard, I guess…
Monkyboy ,
I almost hate to be the one to let you in on this ,but the last time I checked there’s no Republican party in Canada . As 6Gun knows full well M. Strong will make even your pink hide blush at the total hypocracy of this Kyoto “scheme”.
P.S. any time the U.N. , or any other governing body of any kind refers to anything as a “scheme “ ,lets just all collectively grab our ankles and share the pain together. ACK!
It is telling, monky, that you think lobbing a Haggard reference to PW regulars will score some sort of rhetorical point.
As I have said on that topic before: Read much?
As your brand of capitalism is the 2+2=5 variety (where a Chinese plot lurks under every rock)–I’ll stick with my variety with a per capita GDP of $41K growing at 3% or so a year.
Lee,
What’s even funnier is they’re trading $$$$$$$ over NOT MEETING THOSE GOALS .
– You mean to say there’s still some people on the planet over the age of 10 that do not know Kyoto is a plan amongst the third worlders to level the global market playing field. Simply amazing. Hard to believe actually. *shrug*
TW: progress57 …. can be painfully slow….The real kind anyway….
As freaking usual , when confronted with reason , trolls do what they do best……cut and run.
I had an island sink under me once.
No, really!…
But then it turned out to be a gigantic legendary turtle.
…
Long story.
Bill,
I am always amused by the “arguments” of the faith-based community against their cast of comic books villans like Jane Fonda, France, Ted Kennedy, the U.N., environmentaists, etc.
Usually, it’s other people that have to pay for your fantasy world…
…but, as I said, this time you Red Staters will get to play the role of the “lucky, liberated third-word natives.”
Enjoy…
Don’t forget to badmouth the Red Cross and the U.N. as they construct your new tent homes.
Is there a word for this level of cluelessness? Is there a word to describe this level of complete and utter ignorance from someone who has hung around this site for weeks and still hasn’t a clue who most of us are? Reading his excrement just depresses me that I can’t summon expletives and perjoratives sufficient to express my disgust.
Bill,
If I’m not mistaken, you live in Canada, right?
Probably already lives in an igloo…
Just kidding, I lived in Alberta for 8 years myself.
Look nutbars, the “global warmists” have decades of scientific research and centuries of data collection to back up their claims. You feel-good morons have Inhofe and a handful of fringe scientists. It’s almost as if you are willfully ignoring expertise in order to justify an absurd yet convenient opinion. How’s that working out for ya?
So offshore monkyspank’s back to scrabbling at all it knows: Strawmanning American religious intolerance. This from the Leftwat suckled at the teat of “tolerance” by the Tolerant Party itself, no less.
Not much funnier than watching political correctness confront reality and come out charred right to the waterline.
So far so good. 95-0 against Kyoto in the senate, hey they can all get along!
More recently, Rockefeller, Snowe, and Waxman writing to admonish corporations to stop funding people that disagree with the “consensus” in a sort of “that just ain’t right” kinda thing, perhaps written in crayon?
Also, probably written out of desparation that the “equalizing” effect of Kyoto won’t ever get passed—and it won’t.
Why don’t you just dump your vast knowledge on the comments, and that’ll be my research? That way, I don’t have to read your mind.
Was I warm? Is he a “globalist”? What else is he? American or not? Does he have a PhD? But not in science?
heet,
I have an idea for you, and the rest of those that think the world is about to end.
Instead of trying to stop the whole world from using oil, why don’t you get the middle east to quit pumping the nasty stuff out of the sand?
You know, cut it off at the source.
Kinda like burning the poppy fields, instead of just arresting the addicts.
Might be a little difficult, but hey, the whole planet is at stake, right.
Nothing would make me happier, heet, than to look at your comprehensive sales pitch. Have at it.
Maybe start with Titan or Martian poles, but at least start. ‘Cause right now you just seem like an idiot.
Speaking of idiots:
Hey actard, the way it works is like this. The planet’s been here for some time. It used to be a ton hotter. And it used to be a ton colder. YOU develop a sales pitch—based on science, presumably—that gets the entire planet onboard to the tune of a sizable percentage of it’s productive output.
Otherwise piss off. Putz. You global Socialists are so sanctimonious and arrogant about trampling everybody who doesn’t agree with you. Kinda religious that way…
I don’t think you understand the claims of the climate scientists. I don’t know them exactly, but I think this isn’t it.
Carbon dioxide is a pisspoor greenhouse gas… as the Martians, sweltering in their post-tropical atmosphere almost entirely consisting of CO2, will tell you. Oh, that’s right, isn’t it? It’s cold on Mars. Fancy that. And with air that has something like nine hundred and ninety parts per million of bad ol’ glowball warmening stuff.
The greenhouse effect is caused by water vapor, end sentence, end paragraph, end chapter. All other greenhouse gases combined cause only 5% of the effect—and despite the fact that carbon dioxide is over 90% of that 5%, it contributes less than three-quarters. Oxides of nitrogen, with about one-fiftieth of the abundance of CO2, cause fully 20% of non-water-vapor greenhouse. Mother Gaia suffers much more from the NOx in your urine than she does from the CO2 in your SUV exhaust.
And all anthropogenic sources of greenhouse gases added together contribute a little more than one-tenth of one percent to the total greenhouse effect. Yep. Wipe out the human race entirely, and you do away with 0.117% of the problem immediately. And that includes the NOx. Simply do away with industrialization, reducing all but a few of monky’s friends and co-conspirators to favelistas, and almost a quarter of that wonderful saving would be lost. Live people piss, even if they don’t have SUVs.
What amuses me about “global warming/cooling/climate”, between bouts of red rage that make it very fortunate the Internet doesn’t offer a “bash the poster with a rock” option, is that the whole thing is a scientific shortcut that’s escaped its masters. Water vapor is hard, hard, hard to model. To begin with, our data on its distribution is spotty, and good models for how it originates and gets into the atmosphere are nonexistent. (Evaporation? Sure. How much, where, and where does it go? If you’ve got answers with good numbers, report immediately to Boulder, Colorado and ask directions to the National Center for Atmospheric Research, NCAR. Fame and fortune await you.) Worse, water comes in three forms, all three can exist simultaneously (see: cirrus clouds), and all three have different effects on insolation, reflection, and absorption. The computers and programs the wallahs have are already straining at dividing the Earth into a few hundred cells and calculating the effects. Add water into that mix, and superclusters of multigigahertz Pentiums start looking like my raggedy-assed laptop does when Windows decides to start paging.
But when computer modelers can’t calculate something for real, they look for a proxy—something they can calculate that (hopefully) follows what they really want to figure out. They can’t send a time machine back to measure the temperature in Hawai’i in the year 900, so what they do is measure tree growth rings. Trees grow faster when it’s warm, so tree rings are a proxy for the temperature.
Carbon Dioxide is known as a greenhouse gas, however bad it is at it, and it’s easy to calculate, because it’s always an odorless, colorless gas whose transparency at various wavelengths is well known to several significant figures. So they use CO2 in their models, and cross their fingers in solemn hope that it’s an adequate proxy for total greenhouse effect. The current state of the art is to add in the average reflectance of clouds—without making any distinction between, e.g., cirrus and cumulus clouds, which have very different effects on reflectance and absorption.
And, yeah, industrialization produces a significant fraction of the total atmospheric carbon dioxide—so they use that, and the scientists’ Cheerful Charlie assumptions, to scare the ignorant into awarding them with what they want, which is power. They don’t tell you that the total effect of all CO2, from all sources, is trivial. It wouldn’t be scary enough.
Not a single link. Bad, innit? Fooey. Google “greenhouse water vapor” and follow the links. The info is available, so long as you don’t ask monky and his allies, who either lie through their teeth or are too stupid to look it up as long as what they’re hearing matches their bigoted preconceptions.
Oh, and BTW, as long as you’re Googling, you might look up some stuff that doesn’t, at first glance, look global-warming related. Remember the tree rings? Tree rings are easy to measure in most southerly climates, even very old ones, because they grew so abundantly that there are lots of remnants and fossils remaining. Check out the dates—and the latitudes—of the Anasazi of Chaco Canyon, of Angkor Wat, of Machu Piccu and the pyramids of the Maya, of the settlement of the Sudan and what is now the southern Sahara. Recall that in the year 1000, people were growing grain in Greenland, and wine-grapes in Thuringia and Warwickshire. Funny coincidences, eh? I live in a southern clime. Bring it on.
Regards,
Ric
– actass, you can obfuscate all you like. everyone who has a working brain long ago saw the two main thrusts of the “global hot air” agenda, aside from the hot property grants they bring the shady or desperate scientists that pander to this crap.
– 1) Give the struggling third world countries, in particuliar Socialist based states that have a snow ball chance in hell of keeping up, a covert advantage.
– 2) Hurt the “Capitalists”/Democracies as much as possible.
– Everything else is total bullshit, and you know it.
Actually, I was thinking more of those that believe Al Gore is a brilliant meteorologist and prophet.
Heet/Monkyfreak/Actup,
So they can’t tell us what the weather will be like in two weeks but we’re supposed to believe that they know what the weather will be like 100 years from now??? Give me a freakin break. Fringe scientists? Richard Lindzen, Fred Singer, I could go on and on and on. Is it something we should continue to study, yes, is it something we should commit trillions of dollars to, hell no, it makes no economic sense whatsover.
Global warming has a better chance of being true than Saddam’s nuclear weapons program…
…and yet we’ve funneled half a trillion dollars to Red State companies to “protect” America from the threat of Saddam’s “nukes” and we’re still there at a cost of $100 billion plus a year.
So something tells me the actual probability of a threat doesn’t determine how many tax dollars you guys want to spend to counter it, Fat.
Hmmm….what is the basis for Republican government spending…I can’t.quite.put.my.finger.on.it…
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Monkyboy,
Are you by any chance from New Zealand?
I ask because three out of the last five sanctimonious, holier-than-thou, unbudgeable bigots I’ve encountered, on the Internet and elsewhere, have been Kiwis. I’m sure there are nice people somewhere on those islands, but my experience has been negative so far, and I was wondering if you made it four out of six.
Regards,
Ric
The South Atlantic, by most normative determinations, would be surprised to learn that, monky. What do you mean?
He means Brazil. For some reason, the Atlantic south of the equator does not get hurricanes. It has something to do with wind shear. Essentially, any hurricanes that think about getting started down there get shut down fairly quickly.
However, in 2004 a hurricane hit the coast of Brazil. Very interesting. There’s an impressive pic of the storm there.
But again, monky is extrapolating from an n of 1.
Both may be true, but which is more immediate, threatening, and correctable?
Global warming may even be benificial in the long run, nukes in the hands of terrorist sponsers definatly is not.
Putting national priorities in order is no job for a monky.
– monkey…since everything American is so terrible, why do you waste your time commenting here? Isn’t that a little obtuse?
– Seems after a certain point, your drowning ner’do well comments begin to slip across that thin line into the common definition of obsession/mental issues; doing the same thing endlessly expecting a different outcome. does that ever cross your mind?
Monky, having once again received an intellectual ass-kicking, changes the topic to Saddam and WMD.
At long last sir, have you no shame?
– wishbone. Now that was down right mean. they have to keep the dream alive. It’s never a good thing to take away all of the crutches from the obsessed.
*sigh*
Hoisting the ol’ Mission Accomplished banner again, guys?
– Angie – The difference of the hemispheres lies in the nature of the ocean currents. The common Northern hemisphere hurricanes are generally, but not always, started just off the coast of South Africa, and move east gathering strength from the heat in tha water, heat that is caused by the tropic “conveyor belt” that flows in a folded “S” pattern from south in the gulf, Northward, looping just south of Greenland, submerging to a deeper sub-ocean thermocline, and then returning Southward along the African coast, and thence back across the South Atlantic into the gulf completing the circuit. There are current flows along various parts of the South America continent that are similar in nature, but lack the intensity, so conditions have to be almost perfect to generate and sustain a full up hurricane level storm.
– Storms just below the Cape of goodhope, are actually low intensity hurricanes that fall short of achieving the customary wall and eye, albeit 70 mph wind speeds are bad enough to the Captains that have to navigate those seas. They are also noted for the fact they seldom move very much, and can rage on for days, or even a week or more, and occur quite a bit more often than Northern hemisphereic storms.
Hire some new writers, Henny.
This from the guy who accuses us in the “faith-based” community (like BMoe, I still can’t get over that) of repeating ourselves.
staying the course again, monkyboy?
Bite me. I could give two fucks about convincing you of anything. I’m just here to poke the mongoloids in the cages. You guys have your heads so far up your own asses that rational discourse is impossible. You’d deny the existence of poor people if you weren’t one. Every response is “if you hate America so much” this or “you’re a socialist moron” that. And yet you wonder why people don’t try to engage you in real discussion?
How does this compare to…
And now heet will demonstrate his real discussion skills …. soon … anytime now … hello?
Poke away, genius! At some point, though, you’ll long for the Kossian Chorus of me too’s, all conservatives are goons and “mongoloids” all the while congratulating yourselves for your progressive tolerance and Jeffersoniam Enlightenment, as long as we don’t talk about that whole “slavery” thing. Go back to the choir and help Markos fight the b”fucking war” that he’s so far losing to Carville.
Look, BJT! It’s “rational discourse”. Disguised as an appeal to authority sprinkled with an ad hominem. How could you guys have missed it?
So, bill d cat, Hows the above for research? Did you have something else in mind? I know, I know, at least we’re not hearing the earth is 6000 years old. What else am I missing Bill?
You definately don’t understand the claims of climate scientists. Maybe you’re not reading them, and instead only listening to the filter. People don’t predict weather that far into the future. I think they predict global average temperature. If anything, what I’ve heard is that the local weather effects will be unpredictable.
Thank you, that was ever so helpful.
You’re so right jdm! My bad! I have to quit using those “inconvenient” dictionary definitions.
An open question to actus and heet, nobody has been able to answer this for me, ever. We know throughout earths history the temperature has fluctuated a great deal, in a cyclical pattern. We know the trend lately has been warming, the discussion is what is causing it, and primarily what can we do about it. My question is, given the fluctuations we have seen in the past, how do we know it isn’t supposed to be getting warmer? What happens if we interfere with a natural weather cycle we don’t yet understand? Personally I think this unlikely, the idea that the Sun pulsates and causes it seems most likely to me. But if Man can disrupt natural weather cycles, what makes you think it is a good idea?
Two possible answers I can think of:
Whether or not its human caused, we should be looking for how the change will impact humanity, and see if there is anything we can do about it.
The other is to figure out whether the climate data used to predict includes past fluctuations, and so whether this fluctuation is outside that norm or not.
That is one scary answer right there, a metaphor for progressive thought that hey, we can fix anything, no matter how global or historical. Idealism in a bottle, drink and be enlightened. The point that BMoe was making was that if, as the historical evidence suggests, climate change is a natural occurance and we don’t have a clear or complete understanding of its causes and cycles then anything that we may attempt to do could actually make things worse in addition to screwing up our economies and not allowing undeveloped countries to develop industry that would alleviate the economic condition of the residents there in. Let’s not forget the wonderful consequences of banning DDT on the 70’s. We traded stronger egg shells for millions of dead brown and black people struck down by malaria and other fly borne maladies. But, hey, the eggs are stronger!
Some have tried to make this claim, but its not very compelling. There is a disturbing lack of agreement as to the length and causes of historical fluctuations. In truth if, because of increased volcanic activity or a change in the sun’s output, we are in an inevitable warming, 22 Kyotos are not going to solve that problem. We will have to adapt, plain and simple. The idea that we can affect planetary conditions that have spanned a millenia strikes me as a faith based science moving in lockstep with man’s arrogance and misplaced charity. The idea that, hey, we should do something just in case strikes me as very shallow thinking and potentially calamitous.
How is it possible that there is someone as dumb, if not dumber, than monkynuts? Congrats heet. BTW, if you are so worried about carbon dioxide and global warming, here’s a tip. Stop exhaling.
The scientists game is fun too. I think MOST scientists do agree that global warming is happening (Yeah!), they just disagree on the degree of warming and the causes or more to the point the severity of the various causes. Like somebody else mentioned, you twits are merely wealth redistributionists and are using the same ploy you claim the repuplicans use (scare tactics) to do your bidding. Now fuck off and stop breathing. Have some convicitons for once ya whiny little bitches.
Be proactive! Think of the children!!!
If you are talking about building better floodwalls, or maybe changing agricultural practices in anticipation of new weather patterns, I am all for it. If you are trying to actually change the weather, I think you are nuts.
Lovely. Then fuck off. If you can’t do what you findly refer to as “real discussion” because the very point of slapping you is to publicly invert your substanceless bullshit right back in your face, then simply go fuck off.
Don’t ever demand I prove a negative, see? And don’t make me say that a third time.
Like actard and monkyshit, you trot in here with your peepee out and fully expect that your dime store leftist indocrination constitute reality? Take your social bigotry and racial intolerance—they being products of that bullshit socialism—and go fuck off. It simply ain’t gonna fly among normal human.
Don’t like the style? Change it on your puny side first. Otherwise kiss my arse.
It is said that one shouldn’t ascribe to maliciousness what can be equally well explained by stupidity. Personally, I think monkyboy is the exception that proves that rule – especially after his comments to The Major in another thread.
In other words, it is de Villepan just gassin’…they bloody well know this ain’t gonna pass muster.
Yes there is.
Ignoranus: A person who’s both stupid and an asshole.
Except that Saddam did in fact have a nuclear program.
Or are you too frikkin’ stupid to read the news?
The answers are “not really” and “highly unlikely.”
Not really, because it’s full of guesses, and highly unlikely because even the guesses show wider ranges of temperature fluctuations than what’s being blamed on CO2.
It was accomplished.
You’re an ignorant dolt.
Donkyboy –
Very few question the fact of global warming.
What anybody with a brain questions is: When water vapor makes up 95% of “greenhouse” gasses, and CO2 makes up about 3% of same, what makes you think that an increase of 84 ppm in the last 100 years is enough to cause global warming?
How did we export this stuff to Mars to melt those polar caps too?
You are too ignorant of facts to express yourself, and I expect to see you in the Darwin Awards soon
By the way, junkscience.com (I never tried this before, so it might come out just like it looks – useless) has a great “primer” on global warming. If you haven’t seen it, check it out.
It really illustrates the futility of the Kyoto Treaty, even if it were written as science, instead of as a way to pick America’s pockets
Scientists agree that the moon is moving away from the Earth, which affects the planet’s rotation and, ultimately, the weather.
Obviously, we need to rein in the moon; hence, the development of the space ladder. It all makes perfect sense.
I thought that we had agreed on the Ginormous Space Lariat? There was that NASCAR marketing tie in…
That was the plan to use Michael Moore as ballast, right?
…and Barbara Streisand and Rosie O’Donnell and Natalie Maines. cuz the moon is big and heavy doncha know…
I know Maines is skinny, but I want her there anyway!!!!!!!!
Exhibit A. Where the fuck was I talking about race or socialism, you perseverating schizo? The world becomes much less scary when you realize it ain’t black and white, comrade. PW gots issues.
PW gots trolls. You can help that issue by going away.
Trolls who resort to religious intolerance, stereotyping, lying, bigotry, and hate. As far as issues, the left’s Reality Party’s evidently got issues confronting its cognitive dissonance.
Don’t like the generalized, personal blowback, trolls? Then knock off the habitual exercises in everything you claim to hate.
FWIW, the few colleagues of mine who are not afraid to engage in political discussions at work seem to feel that not only is GW not anthropogenic, it probably isn’t even real (at least not to the extent that people seem to think). Granted, these aren’t reporters or economists or cell biologists or physicians or Nobel laureates. They’re, you know, Ph.D.-holding analytical and environmental chemists on faculty at one of the largest universities in the state. The continued depiction of GW as settled science by the media (and, dare I say it, the National Academy of the Sciences) is simply intellectually dishonest.
T.W.: evidence72. Damn that’s creepy.
Howard translated back into Australian: “Piss off, mate! Crack tubes! [pssssstttt…]”
Well there you have it. Some guy on the internet says he and his anonymous buddies in a tangentially related field have decided on the global warming phenomenon. I’m sold.
Hoisting the ol’ Mission Accomplished banner again, guys.
“sigh” Have to. You haven,t offered anything even romotely resembling a fact let alone anything objectively scientific. Given any thought to my question?
I didn’t think so.
Posted by an anonymous troll, with no credentials at all, who hasn’t said anything of substance at all. Irony, heet? Ever heard of it?
You just can’t make this shit up.
By the way, environmental chemistry is not tangentially related, and what they said was they hadn’t decided on it yet.
Holy crap ,sorry I missed all that . After a quick scan of the comments not one of the A-trolls can get past the science(most of which is questionable at best , blatently false at worse), and come up with any LOGICAL explanation how sending vast sums of taxpayer money to non-complying Kyoto signatories is going to do a damned thing to curtail emissions here any time soon.
Again, you people are willfully misreading because it is convenient. I’m no expert on GW and don’t expect you to take my word. There is, however, a consensus among most all climatologists. A group of anonymous scientists in a tangentially related field making political smalltalk is really going to convince nobody. Even if they are at one of the biggest universities in “the state” whatever the hell that means.
Oh Christ. Grow a pair, Mary. I thought you tough-guy PW posters were ass-kicking red blooded Americans.
Well, guess again, shithead, because that is an out and out lie.
Thanks for playing, and here’s a copy of our home game.
Buh-bye.
Alright, then heet. I’m using my work email this time, so I’m no longer anonymous. Look me up. My area of specialty is tangential, but analytical and/or environmental is not. I can’t name names of those I have discussed this with, because I don’t think I can do so without their permission (after all, you could turn out to be some whackjob who’ll start stalking them; I’m not particularly worried that you or anyone else will do that to me because I can take care of myself and mine). However, it took me all of a few seconds of searching the literature to find:
<a href=”http://www.warwickhughes.com/papers/Idso_CR_1998.pdf” target=”_blank”>
One seriously doubts whether Al Gore (technically a former colleague of mine, though he never seemed interested in convincing any of the actual scientists here of his views, probably because we know the Emperor has no clothes) has bothered to search the literature, but feel free to keep looking to him for scientific knowledge (which is quite a bit like looking to The Dixie Chicks for political analysis). And before you start posting links to the vast no. of articles which support Gore’s stance, I’m well aware of their existence. My basic point was that this is not a settled issue, but I guess you missed that.
Damn! I’ll never figure out these internets. But you can certainly still look up that one very easily-obtainable dissenting voice. Though I doubt you will.
</blockquote>There is, however, a consensus among most all climatologists.<blockquote>
Because an anonymous troll said so, on the internet, it must be true.
Do you ever listen to yourself, tough guy?
Well, there it is: the always-at-the-ready consensus. Either the “science” behind Global Warming (or more correctly, what’s – no, who’s to blame for Global Warming) can be used to correctly predict end results or it can’t.
It can’t.
But I’m sure that consensus you’re so excited about is making a good living on Other People’s money being real serious and shit about how some people (aka white Republican Christian Americans) are killing (yes, killing!) our planet.
And the Jews too. They’re always involved. Somehow.