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Andrew Sullivan Dementia Watch (UPDATED)

That UK terror plot that’s been all over the news?  Sullivan remains unconvinced that such a thing even existed.  In fact, Andrew appears to be leaning toward the position that the whole thing was a bit of cynical political theater—a thesis that would require Bush to control Tony Blair, the British press, and MI5 (which, to be fair, is hardly a stretch if the Jews can control the media, Hollywood, and the world economy).  Otherwise, how could our rogue nation’s Christianist-in-Chief have gotten the British Labor party leader to go along with his nefarious plan to draw attention away from Ned Lamont’s ASTOUNDING Democratic Party primary victory in Connecticut?—a story that Bushcoburton must’ve known would resonate with the entire nation and trigger a domino effect of anti-war sentiment in precise inverse to the failed domino effect Bush had hoped for by arrogantly shoehorning democracy and universal rights into the backward, puckered hellholes of the medievalist middle east.

—Or maybe I’m simpy jumping to conclusions.  Is it at least possible, do you think, that Sullivan’s beagle is writing these posts?  After all, beagles are notoriously anti-establishment, as anybody who reads “Peanuts” can readily attest.

I mean, fact:  you hang around “Woodstock” long enough, and you’re bound to come away humming Joan Baez lyrics and having fevered dreams in which millions of doves descend from the heavens and peck the eyes out of Richard Nixon. 

So, you know, don’t rule this out as the work of a dogmatic leftist beagle, is all I’m saying.  At least for the time being.

We conservatives, we’re known for keeping an open mind.

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(h/t Allah; more from Ace; see also, Karol Sheinin)

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update:  Sorry, I was off doing some grocery shopping with the kid having a swastika tattoo applied to my shaved head and stomping on some queers outside the Orange Julius and am just now catching up on Sullivan’s attempt to turn himself into a victim of a homophobic smear attack.

For the record, I meant dementia in the sense of losing cognitive function from the effect of a trauma, which, as anyone who’s followed my other posts on Sullivan’s increasingly idiotic conspiracy mongering knows, I’ve attributed consistently to his single-mindedness over gay marriage, and his belief that Bush betrayed him by backing the Federal Marriage Amendment.

Ironically, I’m not sure that I even knew Sullivan had AIDS—and if I ever did, it meant so little to me that I’ve long since forgotten.  I know that probably comes as a surprise to St Andrew and his enormous ego, but what can I say?  I know virtually nothing of the dude’s personal life. 

Still, with this—his latest attempt to silence his critics by appealing to victim group emotionalism and then playing the implied homophobe card against me—Sullivan has officially earned his progressive merit badge.  Congrats, Andrew! 

That Daily Kos diary awaits…

100 Replies to “Andrew Sullivan Dementia Watch (UPDATED)”

  1. I mean, fact:  you hang around Woodstock long enough, you’re bound to come away humming Joan Baez lyrics and having fevered dreams in which millions of doves descend from the heavens and peck the eyes out of Richard Nixon. 

    Nope. No way. Woodstock (the bird) flew choppers in ‘Nam. He was no hippy.

  2. Karl says:

    As Ace suggests, this is Sullivan backwards-reasoning.  If the plot was real and substantial, he would have to square his torture hysteria with the apparent torture being key to defeating the plot.  Thus, the plot cannot be real or substantial.

    tw: stage.  Better than a Magic 8-Ball.

  3. Karl says:

    Sadly, “Andrew Sullivan Dementia Watch” has not turned up in his trackbacks yet…

  4. Pickle says:

    Apparently Sullivan took a second look at Alex Jones and liked what he saw.

  5. Karl says:

    …and though you’re kidding about Woodstock, we know he actually lives in a town that is reportedly rife with heterophobia.  As I almost never read Sully anymore, I don’t know whether he’s condemned the intolerance in his own neighborhood.  But I’m guessing he hasn’t.

  6. Meg Q says:

    Ugh. Looks like somebody’s cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

    Hang on Snoopy, Snoopy hang on!

  7. Terry says:

    A very liberal gay writer whose name is something along the lines of “David Erensten,” has written widely that Sullivan is indeed undergoing some kind of mental meltdown, or dementia, as a result of all the different drugs he’s been taking. Whether due to drugs or other factors, there can be no doubt that Sullivan has gone round the bend on a very great many subjects. He’s become unreadable, both from a content and stylistic standpoint.

    On the other hand, perhaps he was always merely a fucking idiot.

  8. Froggy says:

    Of course none of the “Haditha Marines” have been charged with anything yet either, but I am sure that he is far beyond the “alleged” description there.

  9. The_Real_JeffS says:

    Sully probably thinks that Bush set up this non-existant AQ plot to kill thousands of innocent people just to take even more attention away from gay marriage.

    TW:  Hasn’t that been what Sully has been saying all along?

  10. BumperStickerist says:

    I have it on good authority that Andrew Sullivan is *totally* data-driven.

    Just read his past couple of entries on Male Genital Mutilation (circumcision).  He was totally, absolutely, completely 100% against it, up until a medical journal article came out that showed that circumcision reduces the risk of HIV infection by over 60%.

    Now he’s for it.

    He thinks.

    Sully also cooks a bit in Jeff’s rhetorical kitchen.  Sully believe there is an objective, quantifiable standard for how much sexual pleasure a man can have. 

    He’s of the belief that men who are intact have a greater intrinsic potentiality for more pleasure because of their intactness.

    But, now that Science has spoken he thinks getting cut is okay.

    Oh, and he’s taking some heat for equating male circumcision with female genital mutilation.

  11. TODD says:

    Oh that crazy Andy Sully guy!!  Great entertainment ain’t it.. Keep it coming Andrew….

  12. Rusty. says:

    Ah. The force is strong in that one.There is no war on terror. These aren’t the droids you’re looking for. Go on about you business.

  13. JohnAnnArbor says:

    Nope. No way. Woodstock (the bird) flew choppers in ‘Nam. He was no hippy.

    I remember those cartoons, where Snoopy was the helicopter and Woodstock was the pilot…..

  14. The Ace says:

    It is unbelievable this guy was taken seriously at one time.

    Yes his politics are reprehensible, but it is kind of sad to watch someone tumble so far.

  15. mojo says:

    It was “sloopy”, not snoopy.

    You kids today. Grumble grumble…

    SB: cannot

    is not notcan

  16. Edward M. Kennedy says:

    We conservatives, we’re known for keeping an open mind.

    But never an open bar.

    Skinflints.

    *hic*

  17. I remember those cartoons, where Snoopy was the helicopter and Woodstock was the pilot…..

    I think Linus was the one who asked where Woodstock learned to fly. After a panel of ‘’’’’’’’’’’, Linus had a one-word reply: “‘Nam?”

  18. B Moe says:

    Is it at least possible, do you think, that Sullivan’s beagle is writing these posts?

    Watch for the Bulwer-Lytton nomination if so.

  19. Jan says:

    Sullivan has linked to this post and added the word “AIDS” to “dementia watch”–i.e. this website is bringing Sullivan’s illness into the debate. Alas, I can’t find the word AIDS…perhaps I am missing something.

  20. Dario says:

    I’m a little suprised he didn’t veil this in one of his “interesting” reader emails.  That’s his typical MO for publishing blatent looney ideas and quiping, “I’m not sure if I would go that far but with what we know about the Bush administration it’s hard not to believe a lot of this”.

    Maybe he’s taking Townhouse emails and going right to the cut and paste.  Come on Sully, where’s the nuance?

  21. dario says:

    I had to see it for myself Jan, I didn’t think he’d gone that overboard like most here seemed to have commented.  I just figured the man changed his mind and he’s rationalizing it in real time.

    The usual suspects have deployed the usual rhetorical tropes against my questions about the evidence in the alleged terror plot based in Britain. Jeff Goldstein has me on an AIDS “dementia watch.” Another had this charming metaphor:

    <blockquote>Hell hath no fury like a man-bitch spurned.

    </blockquote>

    Just to be clear Jeff, “man-bitch”=AIDS.

  22. Mark Poling says:

    I remember the change in tone for Sullivan re: the Bush Administration.  A month before Bush came out against gay marriage, Sully was a staunch supporter.  A month after, and Sully was firmly in the grips of BDS. 

    I had the impression then that Andrew had a thing for W, and felt somewhat personally betrayed by Bush’s position. 

    I can’t help thinking that Sully’s take on “torture” might be a wee bit more nuanced if Bush were a wee bit more pro-gay agenda.  Or if W had sent a box of chocolates and a subscritption to Men’s Health. 

    TW: lines—I suspect I’ve just crossed a few.

  23. DrSteve says:

    The following is just amazing to me:  AS, and probably a few others, can spend more than a few seconds seriously considering the idea that MI5 and Scotland Yard were politically manipulated into a PR ploy based on a squeaker of a primary election upset in a small state in another bloody country entirely—but Hikmat Shakir?  Not worth thinking about.

    It’s a species of paradox I’ve seen a lot lately—for instance, my brother-in-law is one of the 9/11 conspiracy types (“WTC7 was a controlled explosion” is his hobbyhorse), but when I try to talk to him about how the DNC’s approach to policy is influenced by the fact that its largest contributor was for many years a government employees’ union?  Nope, just too far-fetched.

  24. peanut says:

    Actually, Dario, “man-bitch” also = “guy who doesn’t have the balls to stand behind his weasel-worded insults.” The “dementia” thing is clearly a reference to this. Or isn’t it? A true non-man-bitch would have left no doubt.

  25. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – It’s somewhat amusing, knowing it’s coming like the sun raising in the morning, watching the Left struggle to “manage” each and every terrorist “event”. Every turn of the thumbscrews by the Jihadists, deposits a few more squirts of narrative urine in the Liberal bowl of equivalency/rogue nations cornflakes. But that’s the way it go’s when you’re desperate to regain power, and you’re gaggle is all flakes.

    – And then there’s the moonbat Nediot plan. Almost everyone with a working braincell thinks that little political malaprop may turn out to be the hands down winner of the Mellenium Clusterfuck award.

    – As for Sullivan, he reads like a snarky Liberal girly-boy scorned, no longer deserving of any serious attention, post his obvious loss of objectivity owing to BushCo’s “unforgivable sin”. That said, he, like the NYT OpEd’s, should provide many happy hours of fisking opportunities.

  26. DrSteve says:

    Hey peanut, project much?

  27. Snoopy says:

    “It was a dark and stormy night. Sully braced himself against the wind and turned the collar of his overcoat up…”

  28. LoafingOaf says:

    Sullivan’s posts usually don’t have many trackbacks but his scummy conspiracy theory post has generated 10 so far.  Maybe he’s joining the Kos Kids to keep his traffic up? 

    Also, in baseless conspiracy theories one can find out what the conspiracy theorist WISHES were true, which says more about that person than anyone else. 

    And he can spare us the whining whenever anyone calls him a name as every day on the Daily Dish he’s demonizing people. 

    Hugh Hewitt said it best.  He’s a hater and haters can’t be trusted.

  29. Stephen_M says:

    Andrew Sullivan Dementia Watch

    Mmmm.

    Kinda like a DRY PAINT sign by now, no?

    Though, sometimes there is entertainment value.

  30. kyle says:

    The dementia reference can’t simply mean that AS is losing his marbles, can it peanut.  OH, no.  You see through the veil, vaulting over Occam’s Razor and unveiling JG’s unstated intimation: that teh AIDSis behind AS’ decline.

    Or maybe you can just take it at face value and save yourself the embarrassment.

    I WILL, however, note that my TW is “aid,” which, we all know what THAT’s all about.  Right, peanut?

  31. w3 says:

    Does Snoopy’s work as World War I Flying Ace mean nothing to you?

    TW: It’s not as if he tried to appease the Red Baron into ceasing hostilities, <i>for<> goodness sake!

  32. Derek says:

    “Dementia”?  “From all the drugs he’s taking”?

    What a needlessly homophobic and depraved thing to say.  You should be ashamed.

  33. Dan Collins says:

    I think Andrew’s limbic system still functions reasonably well, but penile dementia is a sad, sad thing.

  34. Lewis says:

    Sullivan’s posts usually don’t have many trackbacks but his scummy conspiracy theory post has generated 10 so far.  Maybe he’s joining the Kos Kids to keep his traffic up?

    Examine the trackbacks a little more closely.

    In only two cases do the linkers appear to take him seriously; all the others think he’s clearly nuts.

  35. ed says:

    Hmmm.

    “Andrew Sullivan”.  A synonym for “asshole”.

    sw: There is a “he” in ”she” but no ”she” in “he”.

    Which is one way of explaining heterosexual relations, at least until marriage.  In which case there’s no contact whatsoever.

  36. DrSteve says:

    needlessly homophobic

    There’s a class of needfully homophobic statements?  You’re a real prize, Derek.

  37. topsecretk9 says:

    Wait…Andrew called the Michelle Malkin guest blogger “DERANGED”

    there was no imminent threat of anything but a possible “dummy-run,” whatever deranged guest-bloggers at Malkin say.

    And now he wants to boo hoo that others might think it he who is deranged? (the Guy who dredged up the crusty debunked Alex Jones Cheney conspiracy video?)

  38. SteveMG says:

    Must stop Lamont, must stop Lamont, must stop Lamont, must stop Lamont…

    After all, as Andrew “I’m against Manichaean interpretations” would say (and say and say and say), Lamont’s tactics and style are essentially Stalinist in nature.

    SMG

  39. The “dementia” thing is clearly a reference to this. Or isn’t it? A true non-man-bitch would have left no doubt.

    No, peanut, the “dementia” thing is a sophisticated way of says “Andy is acting like he’s lost his fucking mind.” It doesn’t require a connection to AIDS-related dementia.

  40. dogmatic leftist beagle

    “dogmatic”?

    Oh, please.

  41. David R. Block says:

    Sadly, all of the letters for AIDS is in Andrew’s name, which means that just by using his name you are providing the ingredients for the implied word aids.

    [/moonbat off]

    But then again, this post wasn’t abstract enough for that kind of treatment. Andrew cannot recognize the difference because he’s too wrapped up in himself.

  42. Chairman Me says:

    Yes, but you do realize that gay marriage is inevitable, right?

    …and circumcision.

  43. tim maguire says:

    I think Sullivan’s really onto something with that passport issue. I mean, how could those plotters possibly have plotted anything if they didn’t have passports?

    Come on! We all know that nobody anywhere in the world has ever successfully passed off a forged passport.

    What are you people thinking?!?

  44. McGehee says:

    Wow. A few years back I had a next-door neighbor who was diagnosed with dementia. If I’d only known it was really AIDS.

    Of course, she was nearly 80 and probably hadn’t had gay sex since at least 1920 or so…

  45. Dan Collins says:

    Oh, crap.  The births of my first two children, both boys, coincided with my being in a Ph.D. program.  Given what I knew about transmission of venereal diseases, I had them both circumsized.  I took a lot of crap from my fellow graduate students for it, and I almost fainted both times, but there you go.  Am I cruel?  Yeah.  But I don’t figure these guys are liable to be any less horny than I was.

  46. Techie says:

    I am circumsised, and frankly, want to be in a victim group and be promptly financially compensated…….

    /sarc

    TW: again

    Here we go _____.

  47. Tongueboy says:

    The “dementia” thing is clearly a reference to this. Or isn’t it? A true non-man-bitch would have left no doubt.

    Or it could be a reference to this. Which one you pick depends on your reading skills, I suppose.

  48. B Moe says:

    What a needlessly homophobic and depraved thing to say.  You should be ashamed.

    Seriously.  You can only use demented regarding hetero conservatives.  Andy is light skinned enough that I think you could safely call him a monkey, though.

  49. Meg Q says:

    Well, at least we know Woodstock and Snoopy are no chickenhawks!

  50. Tongueboy says:

    What the heck just happened? Try this

    Well, that doesn’t work either.

    [stalks away in disgust]

  51. Chairman Me says:

    The births of my first two children, both boys, coincided with my being in a Ph.D. program.  Given what I knew about transmission of venereal diseases, I had them both circumsized. I took a lot of crap from my fellow graduate students for it, and I almost fainted both times, but there you go.

    Why the hell would anyone give you crap for that? The overwhelming majority of women prefer it, so you make up for lack of sensation with lack of jerking off–and cheese. And who the hell wants to have a penis that looks like his dog’s?

  52. Rob Crawford says:

    Does Snoopy’s work as World War I Flying Ace mean nothing to you?

    Not particularly. He was the pilot in WWI; when he was buzzing around as a chopper, he was the airframe, and Woodstock was the pilot.

    Completely different situation.

    Although, I have to wonder—when the Red Baron shot Snoopy down, did Snoopy just auto-rotate down to the ground?

  53. Mark Poling says:

    Dementia induced by health issues or drugs is a less damning explanation than outright anti-Bush stupidity. 

    I mean, op-ed payback against the boy you had a crush when he turns out to be a homophobe is so, well, prep school

    For Andrew, I think it really is true that all politics is not just local, but personal.

  54. You guys are great.  First comes the post attacking Sullivan without even mentioning any of his evidence, and then there’s a flurry of anti-Sully comments which CONTINUE to ignore why he said what he did.  I’m not necessarily saying that Sullivan’s evidence is conclusive, because it’s certainly not.  It’s mostly speculation based upon a few facts from Craig Murray.  But you didn’t address any of it or even mention Murray.  Instead, you give some of your own speculation and pretend that this is better than his.  And your speculation wasn’t based upon ANY facts, but instead solely on your own beliefs about who Bush would have to control to make this happen.  So it was speculation based on speculation.  Fantastic.

  55. Techie says:

    Yes, Dr. Biobrain,

    Thats exactly it.  Blair really got spooked when Ned Lamont erked out a primary win in CT.

  56. Mark Poling says:

    Just a leeetle cost-benefit analysis of the consequences of faking something of this scale should convince anyone without an axe to grind that the likelihood of a government scam approaches zero. 

    Of course, ignoring stuff like that is what conspiracy nuts do

    TW: light – more of that, Mr. Sullivan, and less smoke please.

  57. ultraloser says:

    backward, puckered hellholes

    Excellent.

  58. Snoopy says:

    And your speculation wasn’t based upon ANY facts, but instead solely on your own beliefs about who Bush would have to control to make this happen.

    Um, he’d have to control everyone who’s playing along to some degree. That’s not speculation, that’s a condition necessary to commit the crime, Doc. Look up “conspiracy”. What you’ll find will explain everything. 

    Oh, and Sully is a goober. Has been for years. I hear that he used to be rational, but I’ve personally not seen much evidence of it.

  59. Phone Technician in a Time of Roaming says:

    I am circumsised, and frankly, want to be in a victim group and be promptly financially compensated…….

    I like this. First, we should calling circumcision “penis shortening” to make it sound worse for everyone.

  60. Pablo says:

    Andrew Sullivan Dementia Watch

    Mmmm.

    Kinda like a DRY PAINT sign by now, no?

    Like the Arafat Death Watch. Though it is awfully nice to take a minute to savor his very stable condition from time to time.

  61. Squid says:

    You didn’t not disprove that Bush didn’t control Scotland Yard!

    Clueless speculators!

    We also didn’t not disprove that Rove didn’t coerce the astonomers into not demoting Pluto from its not-non-planet status.

    Sully needs to hire better defenders.  This is just sad.  Maybe he needs another fundraising drive!

    TW: Demanding proof of a negative? What a basic error. (I don’t think this guy’s a real doctor.)

  62. angler says:

    Dr. Biobrain, heal thyself.

    Sully wasn’t attacked based on the evidence he “mentioned;” he was attacked for dreaming up a conspiracy, WITHOUT ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE, between Blair and Bush – a conspiracy that would have required Blair to make up the story of the “alleged bomb plot” in order to save Bush from some perceived negative press resulting from Lieberman’s primary loss – and which, if believed, self-servingly supports Sully’s anti-torture crusade.

    Sully’s silly post is more than merely “certainly not conclusive,” as you’ve said, it, as you have also said, “fantastic,” in the fanatical sense of the word.

  63. B Moe says:

    It’s mostly speculation based upon a few facts from Craig Murray.  But you didn’t address any of it or even mention Murray.

    Andy got the money quote wrong, it was the first sentence:

    I have been reading very carefully through all the Sunday newspapers to try and analyse the truth from all the scores of pages claiming to detail the so-called bomb plot.

    So it is actually speculation based on more speculation from Murray.  No evidence has been released, Murray pulled a bunch of shit out of his ass.  Pardon me if I don’t take it seriously.

  64. TODD says:

    “And who the hell wants to have a penis that looks like his dog’s?”

    Yes, I am circumsized, but my dog is offended by that comment…..

  65. McGehee says:

    First comes the post attacking Sullivan without even mentioning any of his evidence

    And you defended him by claiming he had evidence—without mentioning any.

  66. Big Bang Hunter says:

    “Uncircumsized cheezy males” – Looks like we’ve added another “identity group” to the river dancing midget hookers.

    Pretty soon we’ll have enough groups to start a party, or infiltrate and hijack one, like the moonbat closet Marxists are doing. We’d need to follow their business model, and base the talking points on anti-conspiracies, and anti-anti-war and stuff. Instead of Marx’s or Mao’s books, we could use a Old Navy catalog. Instead of a party platform of “We hate Bush”, we could go with “We heart midgets”. Wonder if we could find a midget named Cindy, or Dean.

  67. Karl says:

    I condemn you all.  And myself, of course.

  68. oseaghdha says:

    Andy is light skinned enough that I think you could safely call him a monkey, though.

    I believe the proper term is macaca.

    TW: George Allen said it.

  69. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I question the timing of your universal condemnation. This is just a distraction, ment to draw attention away from “teh Andrew” brilliant expose’ of the twin evils of chimpyMcHitlerburton, and BlairingcarwithHorns great Satans.

  70. benrand says:

    Andrew Sullivan Derangement Watch

    Rock Hudson Death Watch

    Koren Robinson Death watch

    Lindsay Lohan Death Watch

    Brad Pitt Anal Obstruction watch

    Sharon Stone Desperate Watch

    Hollywood Fucking Idiots Watch

    Howard Stern Irrelevant Watch

  71. Phone Technician in a Time of Roaming says:

    We also didn’t not disprove that Rove didn’t coerce the astonomers into not demoting Pluto from its not-non-planet status.

    Of course he did.

    NASA launched a probe to Pluto in January. You think Bushitler wants to send a mission to “the first Kuiper belt object?” Screw that—he wants to send a mission to “the last planet.”

    Layers.

  72. Lew Clark says:

    I issue a blanket questioning of the timing of anything that happens for the next month and I precondemn anything that is said, done, or thought by anyone in that same time period.  That way, I don’t have to keep up and can just cool it for a month.

  73. Um, actually now Xena’s the last planet.

    Probably to buy off the lesbian vote.

  74. Phone Technician in a Time of Roaming says:

    Um, actually now Xena’s the last planet.

    Make no mistake, Rove will do something about that.

    And it will probably make Frank J. happy.

  75. The Ace says:

    then there’s a flurry of anti-Sully comments which CONTINUE to ignore why he said what he did.  I’m not necessarily saying that Sullivan’s evidence is conclusive, because it’s certainly not.  It’s mostly speculation based upon a few facts from Craig Murray.

    Who?

    In the spirit of intellectual honesty I read the post.

    In summary: it’s unmitigated bullshit.

    Here is some of the “evidence”

    So far, no one has been charged …

    Under a law that the Tories helped weaken, the suspects can be held without charges for up to 28 days

    Um, yeah.

    They were arrested last fucking week.

    My God.

  76. ShoreMark says:

    Um, actually now Xena’s the last planet.

    Hmm, first all those African countries they made me memorize in school disappeared, now this…

    I think I’m just going to stick with nine this time around.

    TW: Whether anyone likes it or not.

  77. Joe Ego says:

    I know virtually nothing of his personal life.

    The sad thing is that though I, too, know nothing about it I am very aware that Andrew has been working hard to tell his readers every detail for the past couple years.  Come for the punditry!  Stay for the overly personal medical/boyfriend/pet details!

    And that was well before the gay marriage & BDS issues began.

    The media originally snubbed these “weblogs” as voyeuristic, public diaries with no news value at all until it coule be referenced after some crime or scandal.  For the longest time Andrew Sullivan has been fighting to prove them right.  He’s just a regular guy who likes to spout his opinion on matters about which he barely has any knowledge.  The only difference between him and a gay 16 year old is that Andrew gets to write for Time.

  78. topsecretk9 says:

    ’m not sure that I even knew Sullivan had AIDS—and if I ever did

    Actually, I did too…but I DID know he has sleep apnea.

  79. topsecretk9 says:

    DId forget too.

  80. Phone Technician in a Time of Roaming says:

    I think I’m just going to stick with nine this time around.

    I’ll bet you still call apatosaurus “brontosaurus” and orcas “killer whales.”

    Bah.

  81. ShoreMark says:

    I’ll bet you still call apatosaurus “brontosaurus” and orcas “killer whales.”

    I haven’t called either of them lately, but if I had extra minutes on my plan, I surely would still call them by their real names.

    I bet T-Rex is still T-Rex though, they’re too too afraid to mess with him, aren’t they?

  82. Kevin B says:

    The Daily Mail (via Ace o0f Spades) seems to think there is quite a lot of evidence that the plot was real.

    I know the NYT uses unnamed sources to back up it’s leak stories but the Daily Mail seems to have some strong hints on how the plot was disrupted.

    Quotes like:

    the audacious surveillance exercise – approved by the Home Secretary – allowed MI5 surveillance teams to build up a detailed picture of the group’s planning, contacts and, crucially, when they intended to strike.

    And:

    Tiny eavesdropping devices picked up conversations involving various members of the suspected terrorist gang as they put the finishing touches to their plans to blow up a series of commercial flights over the Atlantic.

    seem to suggest that the authorities in Britain have their ducks in a row regarding the prosecution.  Of course this report could all be smoke and mirrors from the anti-terrorist guys, but I haven’t noticed much of the normal “these are just innocent boys who may have come out with a bit of wild talk” noises from the usual defenders.  Instead we had the “change your foreign policy or else next time we’ll (sorry they’ll) succeed” letter from the moderate muslim leaders, and the rapid floating of the torture meme from Pakistan to pave the way for the appeals.

    Incidently in Britain the wire tapping and bugging had to be approved by the Home secretary, a member of the Government, not some “independent” judge, and the police can only hold these guys for fourteen days before charging them.  (Though they can see a lawyer… if they’re hungry.) I’m sure Saint Andrew is happy with his home countries liberal judicial system.

    TW Modern policing is wonderful

  83. oseaghdha says:

    I’ll bet you still call apatosaurus “brontosaurus” and orcas “killer whales.

    And Undocumented Guest Workers “wetbacks”.

  84. Phone Technician in a Time of Roaming says:

    I bet T-Rex is still T-Rex though, they’re too too afraid to mess with him, aren’t they?

    Well, they did change its stance—now the body’s mostly horizontal, balanced by the tail.

    All those toys and old movies obsolete. Nothing is sacred.

  85. Phone Technician in a Time of Roaming says:

    And Undocumented Guest Workers “wetbacks”.

    I condemn thee! And I condemn everyone who hasn’t condemned you!

  86. I think Sullivan refers to himself as having HIV, but in a vanishingly small amount because of the efficacy of modern drugs.

    If he’s making an AIDS-based appeal, he’s contradicting, well, himself.

  87. ShoreMark says:

    All those toys and old movies obsolete. Nothing is sacred.

    And another thing, I don’t know when they actually did it, but I first learned of it when my son was in elementary school and announced that he was learning cursive. What the hell was wrong with script?

    I can understand though, but don’t agree just the same, dumbing down spelunking to caving.

  88. Terry says:

    Taranto has a pretty good riff up today on this latest piece of crap from Dementia Andy:

    “… Sullivan is highly idiosyncratic, less an indication of the political climate than a localized severe weather condition unto himself.”

    By the way, isn’t “Doctor Biobrain” one of the anonymous e-mailer correspondents that Andy likes to use to promote some of his more bizarre thoughts? Or, perhaps it’s the sock puppet, “Derek?”

  89. oseaghdha says:

    Alas, for I have become wretched.

    Verily, I am condmened.

  90. Bill D. Cat says:

    Holy shit dude, did Derek just get served?

  91. Phone Technician in a Time of Roaming says:

    Another one that I can actually get behind is changing Aryan (in the historical context) to Indo-European.

    What the hell was wrong with script?

    Fascist.

    Verily, I am condmened.

    Three times. Remember Lew and Karl.

  92. mojo says:

    Bronto/Apato: guilty

    I plead insanity, your Worship. Sir. With an excuse.

    As for Saint Andy of the Bunched Panties, I stopped caring about his malleable opinion about pretty much everything sometime in 2004. So far no ill effects, cross fingers.

    Captured A-Q biggies? Well, chemicals are probably more effective overall, but beatin’ the snot out of the jihadi prick is good for the soul. God loves a good A-Q beatdown, baby – he told me so, last Friday while I was washing the ducks.

    SB: season

    merry merry

  93. N. O'Brain says:

    I’ll bet you still call apatosaurus “brontosaurus” and orcas “killer whales.

    And the homeless “bums”.

    And to save time, I condemn myself for saying that.

  94. wishbone says:

    Let’s diagram this:

    1.  Say outrageous, if not downright stupid anything.

    2.  Get called on it.

    3.  Respond with:  HATE!

    Perhaps Sully could start hanging out with the CAIR crowd (whose rhetorical exercises match the pattern) for a dose of true homophobia because he’s not going to find it here.

    P.S.:  If you were Bush and Rove and your power did extend this far, wouldn’t you use some of it to corner say, Shannon Elizabeth and that hot chick fromt he first season of “Boston Legal”, into some real fun?  And couldn’t you figure some way to make it cramp Ned Lamont’s style?  Planting terrorism plots in the UK in response to Connecticut senate primaries seems so mundane by comparison.

    Planting terrorism plots in the UK in response to Connecticut senate primaries

    Read that again.  That’s what the loons are arguing.  Accusations of Apollo mission fraud PALES in comparison to the sheer idiocy of such an idea.

  95. Sean M. says:

    For those of you who haven’t seen it already, Ace re-linked to this today.  It’s basically an old rundown of St. Andi’s greatest shrieks.  Good old “gob-smackingly vile” makes an early appearance.

  96. Robbie says:

    Eh, don’t worry about it, Jeff. My co-blogger and I fell into this trap ourselves once upon a time, and we’re gay men. We accused someone of having dementia, had no idea he was HIV positive, and suffered the hellfury of many of our fellow gay folk who consider victimhood their full-time job.

    Sullivan’s always been a coward, and he has a history of taking refuge in his perceived persecution for various whatevers. Why else would someone be so obsessed with torture?

    I’d not be shocked to discover he’s a closet flagellant.

  97. triticale says:

    Does one wear a Derangement Watch on the wrist or carry it in a vest pocket?

  98. Bill says:

    I just want to know how many had passports and where the evidence came from.

    I think this is exactly the type of hysteria that led to the WMD fiasco.

    If they have the evidence I hope they nail these guys for life and get enough info to nail everyone they ever talked to about it.

    Its really pathetic how hard it is to raise a question about something when it has to do with national security. Its probably the most dangerous thing about our current situation.

  99. Chumps says:

    Who cares what Sullivan or Mr. Pasteater, ABD think or write.

  100. SteveG says:

    I feel for those guys who have aids. One of my friends had his partner die from aids and at the ceremony celebrating life, they dropped his ashes off a bridge and into the stream that runs through his land… well, they tried. Missed and all the ashes plopped onto a rock in a big lump.

    Sent the gardener down to sweep him into the river.

    It was awful… until his bereaved partner laughed, then cried, then laughed….

    All of the men there either were HIV/AIDS positive or knew someone well who was.

    We all knew someone who had died of AIDS.

    It must be terrifying for gay men to wonder if the sniffles are the beginning of the end… and to have to run off and get tested.

    I’ve seen AIDS dementia in clients… try wrapping up a 500K contract sometime with a guy who suffers from AIDS dementia… but compassion always prevails. With Andrew, no need for compassion on that front… he’s a 100% natural self indulgent jackass.

    tw: I didn’t know the lyrics to “Hail to the *Chief*” were; lying, fucking, asshole, chickenhawk bastard Halliburton and were written by a Democrat with Tourettes Syndrome

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