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BECAUSE OF THE GHETTOIZATION AND RAMPANT FRENCH NATIONALISM!  AND THE POVERTY AND THE ALIENATION!  AND THE CLAM STRIPS SO POPULAR IN CALAIS!

Or maybe he just doesn’t like some snooty fop telling him which wine goes with which foods.

Whatever it was, the one thing we can safely rule out is unprovoked terrorism and allegiance to an ideology that is both totalitarian and colonial. 

Because, well, that’s just a myth.

84 Replies to “BECAUSE OF THE GHETTOIZATION AND RAMPANT FRENCH NATIONALISM!  AND THE POVERTY AND THE ALIENATION!  AND THE CLAM STRIPS SO POPULAR IN CALAIS!”

  1. Suicide is painless says:

    sO WHEN DO WE TAKE THE KIDS GLOVES OFF AND KILL ‘EM ALL?

  2. nikkolai says:

    Would his name be Mahomed Mahomet Mahomed?

  3. dRoast says:

    Soon, S.I.P., very soon.

  4. Would his name be Mahomed Mahomet Mahomed?

    Nope. Late-breaking news gives his name as “Durka Durka Jihad Mohammed”.

  5. BJTexs says:

    I’m going with:  Achmed Muhammed Dubai Salafi Pomme de Terre. Because he is the apple of the earth.

  6. Tongueboy says:

    Oh, they captured the critter? I hadn’t heard that. Makes me feel the neocon fool for floodin’ my pits and layin’ a hot fudge brownie delight in my Underoos. But ya know da Kos Kidz didn’ need no Power Stripe or Depends—bein’ Kourageous and terrorist!-phffft and all dat she-at.

  7. Techie says:

    Nice bit of trolling there, suicide

    I’m sure it’ll be on TalkLeft or SadlyNo! by dinnertime.

    “Jeff’s commentators want massive genocide!”

    /more than they already do so now.

  8. mojo says:

    ”…swear to god, officer, it was the wierdest thing. After threatening us with his air pistol, he suddenly shoved it up his ass and jumped!”

    That’s my story, anyway, and I’m sticking to it.

    SB: once

    how many times can you pull a gun on me?

  9. Suicide is painless says:

    dRoast – I’m all for nuking Mecca etc. but that stuff becomes harder in the West, how do we know we got them all? I guess better safe than sorry, “any doubt take them out”. I’m sure someone like Michelle Malkin would understand that a few of her relatives have to be collateral (could be Moro).

  10. Techie says:

    SIP, dRoast

    FOAD

  11. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Nobody paying attention to you over at Sadly, No!, SIP?

    Or is this like their version of a gang initiation for wannabe Sadly No hardasses—send you over here, have you ascribe to wingnuts the predictable bigotry that only really happens in your cartoonish minds, throw in a Malkin reference, a Jeff if jobless reference, etc?

    Then what happens?  “Retardo” writes you a personal email, and you get one of screamingly hilarious Jeff Gannon t-shirts from the Sadly, No! store?

    Because that would be awesome.  Plus, male porn disguised as irony!  Which has gotta be heaven for you!

  12. Suicide is painless says:

    Please Jeff let me get in a “cock in your face’ reference before you redirect today’s IP to tbogg, pretty please.

  13. mojo says:

    I think all you’re gonna get is the boot, bud.

    So take your latent homosexual desires down in the basement, where they belong.

  14. Suicide is painless says:

    I think all you’re gonna get is the boot, bud.

    Well if that’s true then see ya all this weekend when I troll as Thor Den Beste, Steve’s verbose brother.

  15. Techie says:

    Trolls sometimes make me long for those old phone commercials:

    “Reach out and touch someone”

    /ooooooooooo a “death threat”.  Will this right winger show his opponents no mercy?  Time will tell.

  16. Suicide is painless says:

    Looks like someone has “Retardo” issues, how is his “outing” going?

  17. mojo says:

    Aw, c’mon SIP, be yourself. Don’t be ashamed of being an annoying asshole, be proud! Revel in your assholedom, brother!

    SB: bed

    and bored

  18. David R. Block says:

    Wow, more Sadly, No wankers. That place must be full of them.

  19. TODD says:

    sO WHEN DO WE TAKE THE KIDS GLOVES OFF AND KILL ‘EM ALL?

    SIP

    I been thinking hard on this one. I say we wait until you are under full dhimmitude, and at that time durka durka mohammed sets aside his goat and chooses you for servitude because that damn goat probably has a silly sideways grin and you most likely won’t squirm as much. Then,and only then.

  20. Mark says:

    I think his name is Allah au Jus

  21. Dan Collins says:

    I have a good candidate for S

    “Don Q” of http://irepeatmyself.blogspot.com/

  22. nikkolai says:

    Who would win in a fight: the mis-understood “youth” in France or SIP?

    And when the “youth” kicked the sh*t out of SIP, what happens to the youth’s goat?

  23. Dan Collins says:

    Donk you very much?

  24. oseaghdha says:

    Why do these dysfunctionals feel the need to show their asses all over the place?

    Is Dr Demento doing home schooling now?

  25. Suicide is painless says:

    Who would win in a fight: the mis-understood “youth” in France or SIP?

    And when the “youth” kicked the sh*t out of SIP, what happens to the youth’s goat?

    Too bad we’ll never find out who will win in a fight between your typical goat humpin’ A-rab (they all do corrding to real Mercans like TODD)with IED and Private 1st class Goldstein, isn’t it?

    hmmm

  26. Dan Collins says:

    This is a sample from Obsidianwings, where even the locals think this douchebag (and I use that term advisedly) is off his nut:

    I do not support “payback” – whether it’s the US attacking Afghanistan or Saudi terrorists attacking the US.

    But I do, it’s the only thing that keeps the greedy bastards that run the world in check. Do you really believe that if Iraq had the means of dropping a Nuke on NY that we would have invaded?

    Do you believe that the US would start a war with a country that had the means to project forces in the Continental US without thinking about it twice or thrice?

    As far as Torture is concerned, the old adage “Ignorance of the law is no excuse” applies, but if republicans want to convince me that they don’t aopprove of torture, it’s easy, start the Impeachment proceedings against GWB. If you can impeach a president over a BJ, I think you should be able impeach over state sanctionned torture.

    Posted by: Don Quijote | February 03, 2005 at 10:17 AM

    Elsewhere, in the thread, he states that he’s from Westchester.

    Perhaps this is a bad reaction to having been disappointed in 8/22, like Fitzmas?  Ace banned Larry the Urbanite today, for some unspecified terror abetting behavior elsewhere on the net (as I understand it).

  27. TODD says:

    SIP

    Ok you win, I’m exhausted and obviously outwitted.

    You can go now….

  28. Lou says:

    Todd,

    Did you get rid of the goats in the bunker I am sure SIP could come up with some good use for them. Duuuuurka duuuuurka Mohammed jihad peas be upon him, With the small carrots.

  29. Pablo says:

    Looks like someone has “Retardo” issues, how is his “outing” going?

    Apparently about as well as mine. What else you got, cupcake?

    tw: likely

    Jeff, that thing is a f*cking riot!

  30. Lou says:

    Todd,

    Lets call the Islamo faci by there real name.

    MUSLIMS.

  31. TODD says:

    Yes Lou,

    I sold them to a Mexicatessan in Santa Ana. Birria for everyone.

  32. 6Gun says:

    Why do these dysfunctionals feel the need to show their asses all over the place?

    Good question.  Don’t they know that’s not a missionary’s position?

  33. Rob B. says:

    Great.  angry

    Does this mean that some jackass let France into our “distract from Lamont” Rovian ploy?

    If so, I’m pissed. I only brought two cheese trays to this party and I’ll be damned if I’m going to take and crap off of those elietist cheese whores!

  34. Pablo says:

    BECAUSE OF THE VERMONT EXTRA SHARP WHITE CHEDDAR!!!

  35. N. O'Brain says:

    sO WHEN DO WE TAKE THE KIDS GLOVES OFF AND KILL ‘EM ALL?

    Posted by Suicide is painless | permalink

    on 08/22 at 03:32 PM

    Do you weat an old SS uniform and sing the “Horst-Wessel-Lied” as you play “yankee-my-wankee”?

    tw: what a repulsive nut case!

  36. Squid says:

    Where have you gone, Witheld? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you!  Ooo ooo ooo!

    TW: The first-string trolls could not be reached for comment.

  37. BeeCharmer says:

    ”…swear to god, officer, it was the wierdest thing. After threatening us with his air pistol, he suddenly shoved it up his ass and jumped!”

    He yelled his name to me on his way down it was,

    Bubba Abdullah Exhaust.

  38. S

    I’ll bet all your friends at Islammie-Martyrs High School must be pretty proud of you.

    TW: take your rampage elsewhere.

  39. ahem says:

    Why do these dysfunctionals feel the need to show their asses all over the place?

    Actually, I have a theory. And this is it: Ned is going down. That is my theory. There, I said it.

    You notice how they were relatively quiet when they thought they were winning? Well, they’re not winning. They’re looooosing. And they’re looking like fucking idiots: fucking, unwanted, retarded idiots. Idiots who are incapable of fooling the public.

    Hahahahahahahah, suicide.

    Fuck you.

  40. Dan Collins says:

    Yeah, wait till the Spike Lee documentary comes out, and the French decide Bush created the hurricane to destroy New Orleans to punish Americans of French extraction for being French, as well as black, etc.

    It used to be that you couldn’t make this kind of shit up, but that snake’s swallowed its own tail, and you can make it up again, because some idiot mofo is going to post it on the tubes and a whole bunch of other idiot mofos are going to buy it.

    Also, it’s going to win Best Documentary at Cannes.  So focking predictable.

  41. Dan Collins says:

    ahem–

    Don’t know whether you read Ace’s post on how the intertubesthingie buzz didn’t deliver giant box office for Snakes on a Plane.  His summation (yes, he cited the source): “You fucked up.  You trusted us.”

    PWL (people with lives) don’t get their news from the internet.  Nor do they get it from the MSM.  They mostly are too busy doing things to worry about all this stuff.  But every once in a while, in a place like CT, where people have too much leisure, apart from their commutes, something like this can happen.  A misguided band of insurgent goofballs can get deep into enemy territory, set off some explosive thingy, and suddenly realize that they don’t have an “exit strategy” when the American populace neglects to rise up and support them.

  42. BLT in CO says:

    S

    Tired of driving up his pageload count endlessly refreshing the last 5 threads to see who’s responded to you?  The assurance of your convictions so weak that you post the tired “KILL ‘EM ALL [Muslims]” pretending to be a hated ‘winger’ since Jeff’s readers aren’t bloodthirsty enough?  Privately annoyed by the fact that your trolling simply brings Jeff more readers?  Secretly ashamed that your 3-year-old talking points have long since been refuted and you’re reduced to wimpy personal insults?

    Yeah, I didn’t think so either.  You’re too ‘smart’ for all that.  Way too ‘smart’.

    <snicker>

  43. WItheld says:

    I am with you squid.  I am here.  I am all around the dark.  I’ll be everwhere – ever wher you can look. Wherever there’s a flame war so deeply prfoundly wits can speak progessive sarcasm to power, I’ll be there. Wherever there’s a cop pawing through a guys library checkouts, I’ll be there.  I’ll be in the way womyn spell words funny when they’re mad at the patriarchy.  I’ll be in the way Koskids water there mouths when they get fresh new open thread.  And when Ned Lamont is strolls into the senate house with his stepping chin chin and proud of the poeple has spoken, I’ll be there, too.

    One thing about Suicide is Painless:  a GREAT somg of a GREAT show which was of, yes, Korea, but relly it was Vietnam, wasn’t it (meataphor).  So in a way it was prescience of Iraq war.  (All the more because of Klinger was Lebanonese-American).  ANyway, the words of that song are SO great. 

    Through early morning fog I see

    visions of the things to be

    the pains that are WITHELD for me

    I realize and I can see…

    That’s the magicalness of poetry right there. 

    TW: </i>quite<i>

  44. WItheld says:

    Aslo, Eliot Gould.

  45. Dan Collins says:

    I’ll be in the way Koskids water there mouths when they get fresh new open thread.

    Just how DO Koskids water their mouths, Witheld?

  46. 6Gun says:

    Just how DO Koskids water their mouths, Witheld?

    Dan, don’t interrupt him/her; this witheld is absolute satire GOLD, man.

  47. 6Gun says:

    TW: </i>quite

    See what I mean?  Freaking satire GOLD…

    tw:  <i>Merely observing the genius at work…

  48. ahem says:

    Withheld:

    I can honestly say that that was as stirring a post as I’ve ever read.

  49. 6Gun says:

    Ha.  See what happens when you mess with the King?  Even my tags bow.

  50. Dan Collins says:

    Upon entering the tomb, she found that Witheld’s body was no longer there, though the shroud and bandages still lay within the tomb, neatly folded.  She ran to tell the disciples.

    * * *

    but McGehee did not believe.  Witheld said to him, “See my hands.  Feel my wounds,” and McGehee fell upon his knees, saying, “My Lord and my God.” Witheld raised him up, and said, “You have believed because you have seen, but blessed art those who have not seen, and yet have believed.”

    *****

    Appearing to them that night, Witheld told them what they must do and discussed many hidden things with them.  The Spurwing Plover descended into their midst and set their hearts alight.

    *****

    “For remember, whosoever of you opens your heart to him, he is with thee in squid.  Yea, though you walk through the valley of the trolls, though shalt fear no evil, for he guideth thee on thy journey.  And the cedars of Lebanonon shall bowwow down to him.  Amen, amen.”

  51. Rick Ballard says:

    I can honestly say that that was as stirring a post as I’ve ever read.

    Yeah. Hard to decide who to dig up and kick around – Fonda? Johnson? Steinbeck? A soliloquy such as that deserves a great round of flatulence.

  52. 6Gun says:

    <snort> Epic stuff, Dan. 

    (The only problem with outing witheld’s brilliant satire is that it makes him/her go away. 

    I feel so guilty.  I am, at best, but a foil…and I do not mean a curvilinear, often lobelike figure or spaceman formed betwixt the cuffs of intersnarking orcs, found especially in Gothic hosery and Boorish orientals.)

  53. 6Gun says:

    Not that there’s anything wrong with being found in either Gothic hosery and Boorish orientals…

  54. Dan Collins says:

    Yeah, 6Gun, I guess it’s too gossamer a thing to be touched by mere mortals such as ourselves without destroying it.  And I can see how you’d feel like a trefoil in that tracery.

    If he comes back, though, I do want Witheld to know in all seriousness that I admire his writing, because I am certain that, try as I might, I could never write that way.  It’s like Spurwing’s ploetry.  There’s nobody else who can do it.

    And he’s charming, although he’s completely daft.

  55. WItheld says:

    You guys.  Your making Witheld blush (private email).  He tells me to tell you he hasn’t posted very much in long time mostly because of many obligations do to being busy. 

    Me either because of I have enfant son who is currently at the Peak of Fussiness of Five Weeks (sleeping now in a very 21 Century slinged up snoring to his dad’s prodigulous belly, in the lastest blog commneting fashion).  VERY Mr. Mom. 

    Its not a thing you dingers woud understand.  (Except maybe Mr. Patsy-I-Stay-at-Home-I-Would-Of-Got-A-Phd-But-Whatever.)

  56. Ezra Heldwit says:

    Whoops I posted that last with the wrong name (different guy).

  57. oseaghdha says:

    Congrats on the runt, W.

  58. narciso says:

    You know, Don, your namesake is the principal character of an author, who spent quite a few

    years in an Algerian prison, in a battle his

    side won, in 1571!

  59. McGehee says:

    but McGehee did not believe.

    Wellm whaddaya know—there is something true in that book!

    Dan, is that the Book of Idimot, brought down from heaven by the Angel Idioti?

  60. McGehee says:

    Wellm

    Okay, Step One is admitting I have a problem. Damn keys won’t stay put, and that’s a problem.

  61. Dan Collins says:

    McGehee,

    Yes, part of it is from the Book of Idimot of the New Vestament, but we prefer to refer to the messenger as the Angel Smurfael.  Parts are also from the Gnospels of Dude and Shiznit, and the last bit is from the Book of Realvacations.  Honestly, you’re such a sceptic.

  62. Ric Locke says:

    Damn keys won’t stay put, and that’s a problem.

    Can’t imagine why.

    I prescribe another couple shots of whatever it is you’re imbibing. It won’t nail the keys down, but you won’t care any more, and the rest of us will be entertained. Win-win for everybody, eh?

    Regards,

    Ric

  63. Patricia says:

    I’m looking forward to the day when the liberal establishment officially names radical Islam as a mental illness.

  64. Dan Collins says:

    That Ric.  Always looking out for the good of the group! rolleyes

  65. Lost Dog says:

    Nice bit of trolling there, suicide

    I’m sure it’ll be on TalkLeft or SadlyNo! by dinnertime.

    “Jeff’s commentators want massive genocide!”

    /more than they already do so now.

    Posted by Techie | permalink

    on 08/22 at 03:45

    I dunno. I thought he was serious. Are you sure he’s (she’s?) a troll, or could it be someone who is only half a step ahead of me?

    I am pretty much up to my ears with suicide by PC.

  66. Lost Dog says:

    ”…swear to god, officer, it was the wierdest thing. After threatening us with his air pistol, he suddenly shoved it up his ass and jumped!”

    He yelled his name to me on his way down it was,

    Bubba Abdullah Exhaust.

    Posted by BeeCharmer | permalink

    on 08/22 at 05:34 PM

    Well, I heard it diferently. It was the local Imam that shoved the air pistol into his dumper, and when the kid’s father asked him if he jumped, the kid said “Well, a little, at first”.

  67. McGehee says:

    Honestly, you’re such a sceptic.

    ANTISCEPTIC!

  68. Dan Collins says:

    Yeah?  Well tell it to . . . Snoot Foppy Fop that . . . French, y’know . . . rap guy guy.  You ain’t all that.

  69. Warren Bonesteel says:

    For your consideration.

    An early Iron Age ‘Theocratic’ Culture is trying to attempt world-wide genocide. In the course of their attempt they destroy everything they see that is not derived from their own Iron Age culture. They cannot be reasoned with. They ignore every treaty and negotiation. They kill everyone and destroy everything that gets in their way. They leave no other choice but to kill or to be killed.

    If the Iron Age culture is, by definition, openly committing genocide, what do you call it when…the more advanced and enlightened cultures who were targeted…murder every one of the Iron Age Neanderthal jihadists instead?

    What’s the </i>matter<i>? Can’t you face reality?

  70. Jeff Goldstein says:

    If the Iron Age culture is, by definition, openly committing genocide, what do you call it when…the more advanced and enlightened cultures who were targeted…murder every one of the Iron Age Neanderthal jihadists instead?

    Well, I don’t think anyone here is advocating that (save the Sadly, No! troll at the onset of this thread who is attempting to cartoon bloodthirsty wingnuts).

    But in answer to your question—and from a purely hypothetical standpoint—I suppose I’d call it a bit of “pruning.”

    Think old English gardens, only replace the unruly hedges with Iron Age Islamists bent on spreading in such a way that they destroy the civilized beauty of the carefully-sculpted maze.  Then apply the shears judiciously.

  71. Pablo says:

    If the Iron Age culture is, by definition, openly committing genocide, what do you call it when…the more advanced and enlightened cultures who were targeted…murder every one of the Iron Age Neanderthal jihadists instead?

    Pest control. And this is the Orkin Man. Who is also a poet.

    Things will not be necessarily continuous.

    The fact that they are something other than perfectly continuous

    Ought not to be characterized as a pause.

    There will be some things that people will see.

    There will be some things that people won’t see.

    And life goes on.

  72. Warren Bonesteel says:

    Worrying about left-wing nutroots accusing you of being “bloodthirsty?” Why? Because you offer appropriate responses to followers of Islam who verifiably want your head on pike? That seems to be the very definition of cognative

    dissonance.

    let’s see…. A self-declared enemy who has promised to kill or enslave you all. An enemy who has already killed millions of innocent

    men, women and children around the world over the last few years (Darfur and Somalia, among many others) – and you’re worried about left-wing extremists calling you bloody-thirsty when you want to defend yourself and your nation. WTF did I miss here?

    If ya keep up that disconnect from reality this nation is screwed.

    Put yer tuxedos on and pick a chair onna deck. This ship is going down.

  73. B Moe says:

    – and you’re worried about left-wing extremists calling you bloody-thirsty when you want to defend yourself and your nation. WTF did I miss here?

    That the Republicans don’t really have a dictatorship like some folks are saying, and if we lose support of the middle we are fucked. 

    And also there are some morality issues in literally killing them all and letting God sort them out, I would say.

  74. Warren Bonesteel says:

    My first post was a slam at those who accuse America and Israel of “genocide” when Islam has been rather openly promoting – and actually committing genocide around the world. So what do ya call it when – out of simple self-defense – ya kill everyone who is trying to kill you? Keep in mind that if you don’t kill them, they will kill you. For their part, that’s non-negotiable. Their stated and proven goal is to kill you.

    Also keep in mind that for the last thirty years that diplomatic solutions have only led to further Muslim atrocities…each and every month – almost weekly, and at times, daily – for thirty years…Not counting casualties of war, hundreds of American civilians have been killed, injured and crippled. Millions of others have died around the world, and the followers of Islam have said that they are going to destroy America and Americans. In view of their history and of their present influence in American politics, I take their threats very seriously.

    My second post asks what are you willing to do to defend yourselves? Argue with left-wing extremists about being called “bloodthirsty” because you merely think about defending yourselves? When you’ve done that, you’ve bought into their ‘narrative’ and allowed them to frame the debate…and have allowed them to mentally, emotionally, and ideologically tie both hands behind your backs so that you cannot ever hope defend yourselves or this nation. When you allow them to do this, they’ve already broken your will to fight and have ‘surgically’ removed your instincts for self-preservation from the equation.

    That’s quite an interesting way of protecting your nation and your families.

  75. B Moe says:

    Also keep in mind that for the last thirty years that diplomatic solutions have only led to further Muslim atrocities…

    That would be a diplomatic failure, not a solution.  Many of our half-assed military actions duting the same period ended in disaster also, but I don’t see you calling for an end to the use of force.  The problem as I see it has been a lack of a coherent, balanced approach like we are trying to do now.

    Argue with left-wing extremists about being called “bloodthirsty” because you merely think about defending yourselves? When you’ve done that, you’ve bought into their ‘narrative’ and allowed them to frame the debate…

    If we don’t rebut them we have allowed them to frame the debate. 

    I am curious though, since you refuse to negotiate with your fellow citizens, do you advocate force against them if they regain control of the government?

  76. BeeCharmer says:

    what do you call it when…the more advanced and enlightened cultures who were targeted…murder every one of the Iron Age Neanderthal jihadists instead?

    Thinin’ the herd, thinin’ the herd.

  77. Major John says:

    Lets u leave the use of force to me, RTO, filecloser, et al., um’kay?

  78. B Moe says:

    Lets u leave the use of force to me, RTO, filecloser, et al., um’kay?

    That works for me, although you guys might want to keep an eye on that little Verc kid. tongue wink

  79. RiverCocytus says:

    Pablo: The Orkin man is not only a poet, but a master of 1000 fighting styles (if you recall…)

    Remember this old thing?

    TW: (its magical!) Don Rumsfeld: Grandmaster, press corps kung-fu.

  80. Badger says:

    When Rummy starts doing his pressers in haiku, then I will tune in.

  81. Rusty. says:

    Merde! Are those bearded clam stips we’re talking about?

  82. Warren Bonesteel says:

    There’s a reason that diplomacy fails when it comes to Islam and to Muslim majority nations. It has nothing to do with Western diplomacy… except for not recognizing the threat, and for leaving the problem for later administrations, governments and generations to deal with. Start with Al-Taqiyya and hudna and go from there…

    I also served my nation, Major. I lost friends in Jimmy’s little fiasco…and still more in Beirut…and I’ve kept my eye on Islam ever since. Several Marines that I’ve mentored from the time that some of them were fourten years old have died or have been crippled in Iraq. They have each turned into better Marines than I ever was. I know this enemy. He is implacable. He is clever. He is often very subtle. He is tough. …and there is no hope for meaningful negotiations with him. The best that diplomacy and negotiations can hope for is to delay the inevitable for another day. To believe anything else is to live in a land of make believe. …a land that will soon be destroyed because we refuse to recognize the enemy for who he really is and what he really does.

  83. There’s a reason that diplomacy fails when it comes to Islam and to Muslim majority nations. It has nothing to do with Western diplomacy… except for not recognizing the threat, and for leaving the problem for later administrations, governments and generations to deal with. Start with Al-Taqiyya and hudna and go from there…

    Nah. Ignore the religious justifications, and just go to the heart of the matter:

    The Muslim world wants war.

  84. B Moe says:

    Diplomacy can only work if both sides want to negotiate,and granted that has not been the case with the Islamofundies lately.  My experience has taught me that sustained violence can sometimes encourage a more diplomatic approach down the road, so it should not be ruled out as a future solution.  Until recently, all of our diplomacy has had nothing threatening to back it up.  History has shown when the only choices offered a culture are change or annihilation, rules and religions often become alot less dogmatic. 

    Just sayin’.

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