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Progressive delusional paranoia goes national:  NBC News “questions the timing”

Via Newsbusters, here’s NBC’s Kevin Corke:

“Yeah well said because a lot of people here are going to be asking the question, not only today but in the days to come, if, if the administration has known about this potential plot what was the hold up in getting the word out, especially domestically? Now right now they’re saying, Ann, that there’s no expectation that there will be domestic arrests related to this particular terror plot but still it does beg the question how long ago did they know of this and why are we just hearing about it right now?”

As Ace notes:

I can’t think of any obvious answers to that. Nothing like, “He didn’t leak it because he didn’t want to compromise the British investigation, which was a painstaking, massive one conducted over a period of months.”

Must be something else, I’m sure.

And of course, here’s the question that a truly objective journalist would have directed back to Corke—and those many many many people so “concerned” and “curious” about “the timing”:  If not today, when?  And the corollary (which goes to motive):  why NOT today?

Because here’s the thing:  had Bush leaked the story for political purposes days ago—say, in the run-up to the Lieberman primary—we’d hear braying from the left about the timing of that.  That he didn’t do any such thing—that he let British intelligence and law enforcement do its job and make the call about when to make arrests and how to break the story—is now (ironically! amazingly!  incredibly!) being framed as, well, what, exactly?  A coverup?  Who knows.  We’re never told.

And the reason is simple: by framing the question open-endedly—which has the effect of insinuating a dark conspiracy being carried out by cynical men for secret purposes—Corke and those like him have achieved their purpose of creating doubt where thre need not be any.  It is a smear couched as intellectual curiosity.

So in order to avoid this kind of unsavory journalism in the future, I have a suggestion:  perhaps Mr Corke and the rest of the “concerned” and “curious” can make this easy on all of us and just draft a list of dates when it would be convenient for them to have facts reported.  For my part, that the story broke on the day the arrests were made is something I’m comfortable with, answering to my satisfaction, as it does, the fraught question posed by Mr Corke: “why today?”

That answering being that today is the day of the arrests.  Which is the story.  QED.

Meanwhile, in other fifth column news, “civil rights group” CAIR is upset with the President’s speech today.  You know, because they didn’t appreciate his “framing”:

U.S. Muslim groups criticized President George W. Bush on Thursday for calling a foiled plot to blow up airplanes part of a “war with Islamic fascists,” saying the term could inflame anti-Muslim tensions…

“We believe this is an ill-advised term and we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism,” said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations advocacy group.

“We ought to take advantage of these incidents to make sure that we do not start a religious war against Islam and Muslims,” he told a news conference in Washington.

“We urge [Bush] and we urge other public officials to restrain themselves.”

Note that this is a move right out of the post-colonialist’s playbook—Bush used a term not sanctioned by the “authentic” group, and so he’s setting the stage for Muslim oppression and victimization—which is just another way of demanding that the propaganda war be fought on their terms, using their language of choice.

That is, CAIR gets to frame things.

Perhaps had Bush simply shoehorned his description into an open-ended rhetorical question…

(h/t Allah)

100 Replies to “Progressive delusional paranoia goes national:  NBC News “questions the timing””

  1. Spiny Norman says:

    I suppose Mr Corke is simply annoyed that the Media was not allowed to leak the story in order to warn the terro… ::ahem:: inform the public ahead of time.

  2. marcus says:

    These people will always find fault no matter who, what, where, when, or why this type of info is released.  It’s so confounding, I am really finding it difficult to express my disgust with mere words.

    Maybe I should draw a picture, or something…

  3. wishbone says:

    I am serious in asking the following:

    When, exactly, did it become optional for reporters (and I use the term in its most expansive sense) to know SOMETHING about their subject matter?

    If you don’t understand why Chertoff or Mueller or Gonzalez or Bush or (insert name of any executive branch official here) didn’t run screaming into the streets with news of the plot while the Brits were wrapping it up in a Hefty bag–then you should not be presenting any information to anything outside of an audience tree moss.

    Kevin Corke.  What find of friggin name is that anyway?

  4. Bill D. Cat says:

    My fucking head hurts. Can I try some of the pills in the couch, please? Timing, staged, framed?… has every leftist on earth completely lost their head-up-their-ass mind?

    TW : this “happened” (no shit) for real, today.

  5. syn says:

    What part of ‘submit or die’ does CAIR not understand? 

    Have they heard of Bin Laden, Nasrallah, Ahmademjihad?

    TW: Off’d NBC after the ‘Bush hates black people’ tirade; they just ain’t got no class

  6. Benedick says:

    Jeff, you crystalized it perfectly.  It is hate wrapped in sanctimony wrapped in dishonesty.  It’s disgusting.  I refer both to the Left (read: media) and to CAIR.

  7. sesame screeds says:

    The left will not answer direct questions, such as, will getting out of Iraq stop Islamofascism? Will throwing Israel overboard stop Islamofascism? What will stop Islamofascism?

    No answer. Ever.

    The left’s heads are so far embedded they are turning themselves into Klein bottles.

    The left is afraid to fight.

    TW: Hillary changed her tune faster than a spinning top. Let’s see how long it takes to come 360.

  8. oseaghdha says:

    MSM-“Why weren’t WE informed?

    “We are, by God ACLU, the PRESS. DAMMIT!”

    CAIR- “We cut yur neck. Devil mak meetbols of you.”

  9. Alien Grey says:

    It very simple. They (MSM) don’t wont to be inform of these arrest. They want it a secret untill someone from the CIA calls them about the secret arrest by BushHitlerHaliburtonChaneywithshotgunElviscontrolsEnronCowboyMcChimpy. That the story that will win them the prizes.

  10. George S. "Butch' Patton (Mrs.) says:

    Well, CBS Morning News did its part today.  They broadcast the formula of the homemade explosives involved and even showed samples on the supermarket shelves so every disorganized whackjob who couldn’t find it on his own knows where to look now.

  11. CraigC says:

    Like I said at Ace’s, it’s a high bar to get over, but that may be the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard a TV “reporter” say, and I worked in the business.

  12. wishbone says:

    Me too, Craig–hence I am am stunned at the depth of ignorance this demonstrates.

  13. Apparently Shepherd Smith asked roughly the same sort of question today as well.  It’s like they have a script to follow and are mindlessly going through the steps even if it makes no sense at all.

  14. piggybelly says:

    Memo

    Dear Ali, Mohammed, and Mustapha:

    I cannot contain my disgust.  Apparently this “plot” you numbnuts came up with was uncovered in part by interception of telephone calls by the “terrorists” and by tracking the international financial transactions of some of the “terrorists”! 

    Dummies!  Don’t you read my damned paper???  I tried to help you idiots as much as I could!  Pay attention, you morons!

    Love,

    Bill Keller

    TW: Don’t get me started.

  15. TODD says:

    Butch,

    ABC local news in Los Angeles ran a similar story on what elements are involved in making the now famous “Sports Drink Bomb”. Even with tips on inserting a membrane to keep the actual drink seperate from the slurry. And the use of a disposable camera flash as the detonator.  Nice of the MSM isn’t it?

  16. The Ace says:

    how long ago did they know of this and why are we just hearing about it right now?”

    He didn’t have the guts to say:

    “Is this a distraction after the glorious, anti-Bush 51.8% vote yesterday!”

  17. B Moe says:

    “We ought to take advantage of these incidents to make sure that we do not start a religious war against Islam and Muslims,” he told a news conference in Washington.

    “We urge [Bush] and we urge other public officials to restrain themselves.”

    Unbelievable.  I cannot comprehend being able to say this in public.

    I would like to urge Nihad Awad to go fuck a goat, if he can find one without diapers.

  18. wishbone says:

    a goat, if he can find one without diapers.

    Yet another failing fo the Bush administration.  Federal funding for livestock diapers is at its lowest point since Harry Truman.

    BECAUSE OF THE GOAT PAMPERS!!!

  19. Sav says:

    I ran across Howard Fineman on Chris Matthews’ show tonite questioning the timing as well. Apparently, Tony Snow’s statements in yesterday’s press conference about how the Democrats need to be on the right side of the terrorism isssue–I’m taking Fineman at his word that Snow did in fact say this–is a sign that the administration new the news of this British bust was coming out today, and that it was intended to show up the Dems as unpatriotic cowards.

    Forget the Democratic Party, I don’t think there are any adults left in the mainstream media.

  20. ahem says:

    This evening on PBS, I saw Arianne and E.J. Dionne on Charlie Rose. They were spouting some of the most illogical, idiotic notions I believe I’ve ever heard come from the mouths of adults. Ostensibly they read, but they are pitful at interpreting data. Ostensibly they see, but they don’t seem to know what they’re looking at.

    Post-election, they were speaking almost as if they believed they were still the party of JFK! (Who, in my estimation, would be pelted with tomatoes if he ever gave one of his famous speeches today.)

    The putsch against Lieberman was perfectly reasonable and acceptable. ‘The overwhelming majority of Americans’ are dead-set against the war. Lieberman is, indeed, a right-winger–after all, the nutroots haven’t gone after any other Dem who supported the war. (Obviously, they haven’t seen Kos’ hit list. Boy, are they in for a shock.) There’s absolutely no radicalism in the Democratic party; it’s a Republican canard. The Dems can elect an anti-war president if they reframe their argument. An on and on along those lines.

    Clearly, one of us is out of our mind. I hope it isn’t me.

    tw: very. Very scarey.

  21. Serr says:

    Kudos to the Administration for keeping the investigation under wraps until the pigs were in the poke.

    I can hear Corke now, if word had leaked out and the terr’rists had dodged: “This Aministration is as leaky as a sieve.  Can’t Bush get people who are quiet??”

    tw: Power in the silence…

  22. sherlock says:

    Mr. Corke provides today’s source for my cautious but growing optimism that the lefties and their media buddies are becoming so blatantly fucking backstabbing bastards that they will ensure we have a Republican Commander-in-Chief for many years! smile

    note I said cautious

  23. N. O'Brain says:

    Posted by sherlock | permalink

    on 08/10 at 09:01 PM

    Sherlock, I hope your deduction is correct.

  24. ahem says:

    Interesting artcle in US News&World. Hope it’s true.

    A three-page-survey memo obtained by Washington Whispers reveals that despite reports of some dissatisfaction with the economy, the war, and President Bush, 81 percent of Republican voters are “almost certain” to vote and an additional 14 percent say they are “very likely.” It goes without saying that they’ll vote Republican: By a margin of 84 percent to 6 percent, they will pull the GOP toggle switch in the voting booth. And here is something you don’t hear very often: 88 percent of Republicans approve of how the prez is handling his job.

  25. thelinyguy says:

    Ouch. Jeff, where ya been? I’ve missed your brand of venemous common sense.

  26. sherlock says:

    OT, I had this vision this afternoon of Rumsfeld giving Ahmademjihad the old rummy rhetorical skewer:

    Ahmademjihad: “Can you doubt that we will get the Bomb?!”

    Rummy: “Do I doubt it?  No, it certainly could happen.”

    Ahmademjihad: cheese

    Rummy: “But will you enjoy how you get it?  Oh Lordy, I doubt it.” wink

    tw: seven should about do the trick.

  27. Beto Ochoa says:

    I, for one, question the timing of ahem’s post and the poll it alludes to.

  28. 34% approval says:

    The whole idea of the Bush administration politicizing terror alerts to try to manipulate public opinion!  Why it’s simply absurd.

    I think the trouble here is that Bush has, I don’t know, a little credibility problem.  Most Americans don’t think he has any.

  29. wishbone says:

    No 34%, what your side claims is that the administration (and the British government) is manipualting terrorism news in the wake of a Democratic senate primary in Connecticut.  Instead of before.  Seriously.  You also nominated John Kerry for President.  Seriously.

    Newton himself cound not draw up the calculus equation for this stuff.

  30. wishbone says:

    Lefty logic:

    Next up, a major terrorism ring is uncovered in Des Moines after the Bixbury by-election.

    P.S.:  I have no idea if any place named Bixbury exisits, but it sounds like a place in the Cotswolds, right?

  31. Phinn says:

    Progressive delusional paranoia, sure. 

    Buried under a few moldering feet of fecund, impacted narcissism

    It’s hard to imagine how self-absorbed you have to be to even think, much less believe, that the arrests of dozens of members of a multi-cell international terror operation, involving what I am sure involved thousands of man-hours and the coordination of military and law enforcement units from different countries, was all orchestrated just to take the wind out of the sails of the internet supporters of Ned Lamont. 

    ‘Cause he won a primary, no less.

  32. The Corkster says:

    Dear blogguys,

    Obviously, we need to question the timing since it took a little wind out of the Kos’s Non-Stop Ned Lamont victory Leftabration! and Pillow Fight featuring Jane Hamsher doing the entirety of The Jazz Singer.

    So, just to be clear, no revelation of War on Terror successes before any event helpful to the Dems.

    No revelation after such an event, and, of course, never distract us while in the process of harming a sitting President during wartime.

    Pretty much, just keep this info to yourselves….that would really help us out.

    thanks!

    -Kevin Corke

    cc:

    M.M.Z.

    N.L.

    H.D.

  33. Benedick says:

    34%

    Okay, I’ll bite.  Bush has a credibility problem.  Assuming that’s true, what reasonable conclusion does that fact compel about today’s events?

    Tell me which if these statements you think is untrue:

    1) A group of radical Muslims plotted to blow up U.S. commercial aircraft originating in the UK, using liquid explosives.

    2) The British government learned about the plot and investigated it over a period of time.

    3) The United States government kept the British investigation secret because the British government didn’t want to interrupt the investigation prematurely.

    4) The Brits made the decision to arrest the plotters today, because they thought that waiting any longer posed a risk that the attacks might actually occur imminently.

    5) The Brits publicized the investigation today, after making the arrests.

    6) If the Brits or Americans had publicized the investigation before making the arrests, that would have tipped the terrorists off that somebody was on to them.

    If you believe any of these statements is false, please explain why and cite facts to support your contention.

    If you agree that each statement is true, then logic dictates that the success British investigation depended on secrecy, that the American government contributed to the success of the investigation by maintaining that secrecy, and that both governments were publicy forthright about the matter after it no longer jeopardized the operation to be so.

    You can cling to smarmy innuendo, but it is wholly unpersuasive.  It is childish and emotional.  Make an argument or stop wasting other people’s time.

    Grownups are talking over here.

  34. 34%...and dropping? says:

    never distract us while in the process of harming a sitting President during wartime.

    More correctly, during an elective war that has turned into uncontrolled disaster and made the sitting president a massive political liability to his supporters, like Lieberman.

  35. Swen Swenson says:

    NBC News: “Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations says many Moslems fear a backlash from tomorrow’s bombing.”

  36. Benedick says:

    Skirting the issue, 34?  Please provide a counterargument on the topic at hand.  Your petulent flailing remains unpersuasive.

  37. Beto Ochoa says:

    The real surprise for 34% et al will be on the morning of 11/08/06 when the pollsters will have to run for the hills as they did 11/03/04.

    Normal people don’t respond to polls. Hence, l’anomalie grande.

  38. Chairman Moi says:

    “We believe this is an ill-advised term and we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism,”

    Or we’ll cut off your heads!!!!

    34%, nice try, but distrust of Bush is not pathological to most of the population. If the evidence corroborates claims that this terror cell was in the final stages of planning the downing of ten or more airplanes, the timing of the arrest will not even be a tertiary concern to the general public. In fact, I don’t think that most of the population finds Bush to be any more opportunistic than any other politician, especially those in the fringes of war opposition. People are generally upset about how the Iraq war is dragging out, and unhappy about the price of gas, not that we’re stopping attempts to blow up airplanes.

  39. ahem says:

    “Awad” is right. Perfect name. What a cynical dick.

  40. wishbone says:

    made the sitting president a massive political liability to his supporters, like Lieberman.

    Hold on to this.  Laminate it.  Stroke it and call it “my precious.”

    It will keep you warm when the Republicans still control both hosues of Congress.

    AND Lieberman is still in the Senate.

  41. Beto Ochoa says:

    an elective war that has turned into uncontrolled disaster

    sez you and yours. I thought it would be a lot worse than it is. The uncontrolled disaster is the reporting and propaganda from our fifth column press.

  42. Chairman Moi says:

    More correctly, during an elective war that has turned into uncontrolled disaster and made the sitting president a massive political liability to his supporters, like Lieberman.

    Do you still have to type that all in, or can you just push a button now?

    Yawn.

  43. Russ says:

    Forget the Democratic Party, I don’t think there are any adults left in the mainstream media.

    There’s still Brit Hume.

  44. Neshobanakni says:

    OT:  Just had an epiphany.  August 22; Iranian nuke – American forces – Baghdad.  Or maybe it’s just the Glenlivet.

    TW:  Ahmidinejad strikes at our ARMY.

    Tom on the rez.

  45. Beto Ochoa says:

    how long ago did they know of this and why are we just hearing about it right now?

    Does this guy ever wonder if he’s not making people question his agenda?

    Every time you ring that bell a new conservative gets his wings.

  46. Chairman Moi says:

    Anyway, the Corke blather is utterly insane. In some regards maybe the explanation is more mundane. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if Mr. Corke was at the end of a long day of TSA briefings followed by on-air regurgitations and just decided to start winging it. I’m sure after a while reporters find themselves in the unhappy position of running out of new information five minutes before commercial.

    On the subject of credibility, has anyone seen any new polls about the public perception of media bias? Is the number of people who believe it tilts left still in the 70’s? I can’t imagine it’s improved lately.

  47. Patricia says:

    The good news is Bush hasn’t apologized yet.  Since he used the “I” word perhaps he has decided to stick to his guns!

    And Iraq is no more a disaster than El Salvador was years ago.  As soon as our true adversary is defeated, its proxies will too.

  48. wishbone says:

    In some regards maybe the explanation is more mundane.

    I still cast my vote in “He’s a shallow, stupid tallking head” direction. 

    Makes me feel all red-statety.

    And that annoys twits like 34% and that makes me feel even better.

  49. Chairman Moi says:

    I still cast my vote in “He’s a shallow, stupid tallking head” direction.

    Why can’t it be both?

    But, you know what, I bet there was a conspiracy. I bet that authorities waited until today to arrest these guys because they didn’t want to abridge their right to vote.

  50. Benedick says:

    Should I wait around for a coherent argument from 34, or just shake my head bemusedly and go to bed?

    *yaaaaawn*

  51. Beto Ochoa says:

    This shouldn’t be news to you Nesho’ but I believe Mad’dood Ahm’intojihad already has a couple nukes from the KGB or the Norks’and is going to use them. The man’s loonier and more fervent than David Koresh. Hell, he makes Koresh look like a backslider.

  52. Robohobo says:

    34% and the others, like this addled reporter, should just surrender now. CAIR would like that, I am sure.

    The Hobo

  53. John Wayne says:

    34% and the others, like this addled reporter, should just surrender now. CAIR would like that, I am sure.

    One thing’s for sure.  With valiant keyboard warriors like you protecting the home front, I sure feel safer.  Carry on, 101st Fighting Keyboarders, carry on.  A nation’s security depends on it.

  54. Jeff Goldstein says:

    That one never gets old.

    Of course, many of the people here are active duty, but don’t let that stop you.

    And of course, fighting the propaganda war is not a valuable use of one’s time.

    Unless they are doing so for, say, Ned Lamont.  Carry on, 101st Jewhating Minstrelizers, carry on. A nation’s insecurity depends on it.

    But hey—mandatory gay marriage!

  55. Sean M. says:

    Oh no!  The Duke just called us chickenhawks!  If anyone needs me, I’ll be on the floor in the fetal position, sobbing.

    TW: How do the lefties come up with such brilliant debate tactics?

  56. Chairman Moi says:

    One thing’s for sure.  With valiant keyboard warriors like you protecting the home front, I sure feel safer.  Carry on, 101st Fighting Keyboarders, carry on.  A nation’s security depends on it.

    Hey, I protected your wife all week while you were working.

    Trolls. Yawn. Goodnight.

  57. lee says:

    The man’s loonier and more fervent than David Koresh. Hell, he makes Koresh look like a backslider.

    Actually, I just heard Mike Wallace on Hannity(I know, I know…), Talking about his recent interview with Afaulkingminutedic(I think thats the Iranian presedents handle).

    Ol’ Wallace claimes the man is smart, sincere, and peace loving. Not at all anti-Semetic. All for world harmony, and only questions the numbers of the holocast, not that it happened. By saying Israel should be wiped off the map, he only means the location of the country should be transplanted to Europe. All in all, a perfectly sane, personable, all-around swell person.

    After seeing someone get snowed that bad, I’m convinced global warming is a myth.

  58. Boghie says:

    I was rather inflamed today.

    But, I didn’t rant and rave and kill and burn foreign leaders in effigy.

    But, still rather inflamed.

    Maybe tomorrow I will act like a barbarian – just like those bubbas in the Middle East…

  59. Darren says:

    Here’s the thing.  Kevin is a sports guy, not a news guy.  I was shocked when I saw him in this “news” light.  It’s like asking Chris Berman or Keith Olberman to talk about news (and yes I meant that sarcastically). 

    They, like Kevin, cut their chops eating, drinking, and living sports, not news.  Kevin was a sports anchor here in Denver and then at ESPN NEWS.  What is he doing as a hard news guy who’s BEING INTERVIEWED ON NATIONAL TELEVISION? I’m truly baffled why he’s considered an expert. Hell, I have more experience in news than him and I’m just a lowly radio reporter.  They should call me.

    I’m not trying to diss Kevin all together.  He is a good guy, and a guy who I’ve known for awhile and like. My question becomes that if Kevin, who’s a smart guy, but a sports guy, is the best that the morning shows can come up with…well what are the producers doing? 

    Please get me a real expert who’s contacts are NSA rather than NBA.

    From My experience, the folks behind the cameras are way more biased then the folks in front.  And I say this as a guy who has numerous battles with the producers behind the news. 

    Good guy, that Kevin, but not the one I’d listen to as an expert in terrorism

    Sorry Kevin, I still love ya.

    TW: Deep:  as in if Kevin’s the best expert NBC has, they’re in DEEP doo-doo.

  60. John Wayne says:

    Man, those chickenhawk cracks bring Jeff out of the woodwork like nobody’s business. 

    Look, little buddy, I know you were on the front lines of boozing at your community college and getting booted out of the Ph.D program at Cornell.  All true Americans salute your sacrifices in the GWOT.  The boils you have developed on your ass while sitting at a computer promoting bloodshed of all kinds in the Middle East are an inspiration to all Americans.

  61. Sean M. says:

    I just thought I’d point out how incredibly brave our friend “John Wayne” is, coming here to insult a bunch of strangers under an assumed name and a fake e-mail address.

    Kudos to you, good sir!  That Medal of Honor would be in the mail, if only we knew where to send it.

  62. ahem says:

    Duke: The chickenhawk meme has been banned on account of unutterable stupidity. Twenty points are being deducted from your total argument score.

    You may now proceed.

  63. Defense Guy says:

    Yes John Wayne, because everyone knows that the truly valiant are those that adhere strictly to the approved messages given to them by their betters.  Like say Kos.

    Keep up the good work.  You’re making all the difference.

  64. Big Bang Hunter says:

    Left = Chickenpussies

  65. lee says:

    That’s not John Wayne. John Wayne would never bring a knife to a gun fight.

    Or in this case, a half wit to a full wit fight.

  66. Beto Ochoa says:

    He has half a mind to insult you Lee.

  67. B Moe says:

    I have been considering that a natural extension of the chickenhawk argument would be that if you aren’t contributing financially to the fight, or the running of the country for that matter, you should have no say in the decisions.  Should some bum too lazy or cowardly to go out and get a job- giving nothing to finance the defense of this country- have any kind of say in anything?

  68. Defense Guy says:

    …promoting bloodshed of all kinds in the Middle East are an inspiration to all Americans.

    This is a guy who watched Moore’s scene of the tranquil kite flying going on in Iraq before the war, and believed it.  Don’t try to engage it, just smile and nod and hope it doesn’t start flinging it’s feces.  Again.

  69. Cybrludite says:

    So, “John Wayne”, when did you serve, and in what branch? What was your MOS? Where did you train? What unit were you in? Who was your company CO and Top? Or do only supporters of the war have to be vets to voice an opinion on it?

  70. Sean M. says:

    Or do only supporters of the war have to be vets to voice an opinion on it?

    [points to tip of nose]

  71. Democrat says:

    “I have been considering that a natural extension of the chickenhawk argument would be that if you aren’t contributing financially to the fight, or the running of the country for that matter, you should have no say in the decisions.”

    I’ve paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes to support King George and his insane policies (unlike Republicans, I don’t cheat on my taxes).  What is your next line of attack, you conservative geniuses?

  72. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Have you ever had a thought that didn’t proceed from an idiotic generalization?

    Do me a favor.  Head back over to Sadly, No! and talk about my cock fetish.  Today is a serious day, and you—well, you’re a moron bent on get a little attention.

    Not interested.

  73. the wolf says:

    Ah, Mr. Wayne…as opposed to the boils that have developed on your ass drumming up monetary support for multi-millionaire liberal candidates like Ned Lamont.

  74. John Wayne says:

    Do me a favor.  Head back over to Sadly, No! and talk about my cock fetish.

    Well, I’m always anxious to do a favor for an American Patriot like cock-slappn’ chickenhawk Jeff Goldstein.  So good night, folks!

  75. Defense Guy says:

    Anyone else here think Democrat cheats on his taxes every single year?  I can’t be the only one.

  76. CraigC says:

    Jesus Christ, “aa,” you fucking moron. I know thinking is tough on you, but try as hard as you can to think about the logical extension of the idea that you can’t support any war if you’ve never fought in one.  Not to mention the fact that it would mean that anyone who’s never served would have to shut their bloody piehole if they’re against the war, too.

    Are you five years old?  Ten? How do you get across the street on your own? Did your mother have any children who lived? I’d love to go on talking to you all night, but now it’s time to play our game.

  77. wishbone says:

    I’ve paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes to support King George and his insane policies (unlike Republicans, I don’t cheat on my taxes).  What is your next line of attack, you conservative geniuses?

    Let’s see…2001-2006.  Hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes.

    It can only be George Soros!

    Either that or a granola-eater without a job fantasizing about contributing to society.

    P.S.:  We don’t cheat on taxes, dumbass.  We get control of Congress and sculpt the tax code to our capitalist pig-dog liking.  That’s what elections are for.

  78. Cybrludite says:

    You still haven’t described your own service, John-boy. Where did YOU serve that YOU get to voice your opinion on the war?

    TW: The British soldiers wore red coats so their enemies wouldn’t see them bleed. For a similar reason, French soldiers wear brown pants.

  79. TIm P says:

    Look, little buddy, I know you were on the front lines of boozing at your community college and getting booted out of the Ph.D program at Cornell.  All true Americans salute your sacrifices in the GWOT.

    Wow johnnie, how totally predictable of you to just sling your little insults, because you haven’t even the shred of something intelligent to say. You call Jeff and others here cowards, yet it’s you who are too scared to come out from behind your anonymity. Can you say ‘projection’? I knew you could.

    You are sooo shallow, ignorant and stupid. That’s a hell of a way to go through life, son.

    Now go crawl back under your rock. Everyone here shit’s better trolls than you.

    TW: deal, as in you ain’t the real one

  80. Darleen says:

    Actually, terror frontgroup CAIR should be damned happy that Bush only used “fascist” in describing their brethren.

    Italian and Spainish fascists weren’t interested in wiping the earth free of Jews.

    German fascists, aka Nazi’s, made it one of their prime objectives.

    Islamic Nazis is more realistic.

    Funny how Jihad translates into German as Mein Kampf

  81. Darleen says:

    Oh for cripes sake

    What is it with Democrat quislings trolling under names like “John Wayne”?

  82. Jeff Goldstein says:

    You gotta love trolls who can’t get the bio right even when it’s posted right here on the site.

  83. wishbone says:

    It’s what passes for cleverness, Darleen.

    Remember they nominated John Kerry for President.  I’m still amazed by that.  And now they think Ned Lamont is a hero.

  84. Noel says:

    John Wayne? John Wayne Gacy, maybe.

  85. ahem says:

    …Hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes…

    You don’t make that kind of money working at the university library, Barbie. The whole lot of you at SadlyNo will be lucky if you make that collectively over the next thirty years.

  86. The_Real_JeffS says:

    Actually, as a logical consequence of the chickenhawk argument, “John Wayne” should be volunteering to be a human shield in Lebanon.

    Unless, of course, “John Wayne” served as well, so that s/he can comment on the war.  Because, you see, the “chickenhawk” argument cuts both ways.

    Unless “John Wanye” is a hypocritical troll attempting to score points in a drive by crapping.  In which case, “John Wayne” is merely a loser using a losing argument.

    TW:  Hope that we never meet, “John Wayne”.

  87. Darren says:

    Hey John,

    Are you a professional writer?

    Then why the hell are you writing?  You’re not an expert.  Leave the writing to those who have experience in publishing.

    It’s also obvious your not a professional opinion giver, so stop…now.

    In fact, anything that you’re NOT an expert in, STOP DOING, because, as you point out (amateurishly), if someone only has opinions, but not expertise, they should shut up.

    Well, amateur…shut up

    Hey your rules, not mine

  88. Darren says:

    …cause, of course that’s the “Chickenhawk” argument in a nutshell….

  89. Darleen says:

    “John Wayne” like Marc and the rest of the giggling hordes from S*dlyNo or Pandag*n or K*s or Lamont’s nutroots are singularly juvenile and unserious.

    This is a wake up call. The modern Dem party is incapable and cannot be trusted with national security.

  90. wishbone says:

    “John Wayne” is probably over at S*dlyNo boasting that we are so pissed that he has no point.

    I’d take time to explain irony to him, but he thinks Ned Lamont represents good times and I’ll take that as a proxy for intelligence.  I think instead I’ll explain alliteration to the dog.

  91. ahem says:

    Wise man.

  92. Noel says:

    Muslim groups criticized President George W. Bush on Thursday for calling a foiled plot to blow up airplanes part of a “war with Islamic fascists,” saying the term could inflame anti-Muslim tensions.

    So can blowing up airplanes.

    “We urge him (Bush) and we urge other public officials to restrain themselves.”

    How ‘bout urging the bombers to restrain themselves?

    Many American Muslims, who say they have felt singled out for discrimination since the September 11 attacks,

    Many American-Americans felt singled out ON Sept. 11.

    reject the term and say it unfairly links their faith to notions of dictatorship, oppression and racism.

    Just the opposite–it is meant to separate peaceful Islam from Malignant Islam.

    “…it attaches the religion of Islam to tyranny and fascism, rather than isolating the threat to a specific group of individuals,”

    Then by what name should these groups be called?

    “…American Muslims, feel alienated by the president’s characterization of these supposed terrorists…”

    And I feel pissed off by your characterization of these bloodthirsty louts as “supposed terrorists”. Asshole.

    “We’ve got Osama bin Laden hijacking the religion in order to define it one way. … We feel the president and anyone who’s using these kinds of terminologies is hijacking it too…”

    No, the President has just given bin Laden’s hi-jacking a name: Islamo-Fascism. If you don’t like it, let’s hear your preferred name.

    Awad, of the Council on American-Islamic Relations,

    which has had five of its members arrested on terrorism charges…

    called on Muslims to step up security at mosques and community centers to counter any negative backlash to news of the plot.

    The only community centers that have demonstrated a need for more security are Jewish ones. And instead, how ‘bout calling for Muslims to help authorities root out these nameless “groups of individuals”?

  93. corvan says:

    I miss Actus.

  94. Sean M. says:

    Funny, corvan, I was just thinking the same thing.

  95. The_Real_JeffS says:

    I dunno, guys, think of all the bandwidth Actus isn’t wasting.

  96. Karl says:

    Trust me; you miss the idea of actus more than you miss actus.

  97. Norm says:

    Timing:  Since the MSM has used timing on broadcasting countless “stories” in the past, it’s probably only their innocent assumption that everyone else does the same thing.

  98. Pablo says:

    BECAUSE OF THE NEDRENALINE JOEMENTUM!!!

  99. Meg Q says:

    John Wayne? John Wayne Gacy, maybe.

    Snort. Heh, heh.

    I’d take time to explain irony to him, but he thinks Ned Lamont represents good times and I’ll take that as a proxy for intelligence.  I think instead I’ll explain alliteration to the dog.

    Yes, know your limits.

    Trust me; you miss the idea of actus more than you miss actus.

    Hope he didn’t, like, hit the Bar with his head, or anything.

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