From the indefatigable Allah. Linked with minimal commentary from the easily fatiguable Jeff—who, admittedly, has been helped along in his stupor by a bottle of Pinot Grigio and some Percocet.
One thing I will offer though: if the Times of London is reporting that “crisis planners” are taking the Iranian 8-22 threat seriously, I think it’s time we all did the same.
Of course, I’m maybe a bit cynical. Whereas Mike Wallace? Not so much. From Drudge:
88-year-old CBS journalist Mike Wallace says Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a ‘reasonable’ man on Sean Hannity’s ABC radio program… Points out Ahmadinejad not anti-Jewish… just anti-Zionist state. Says many Jews in Iranian Parliament, in great positions in Iranian life… Believes Ahmadinejad sincere in his hope for peaceful coexistence between Iran and West… Troubled by comparisons of leader to Hitler… Marvels at Ahmadinejad’s civil engineering degree, ‘intellect’, ‘savvy’… Asks viewers not to bring ‘prejudices’ to Sunday night ‘60 MINUTES’ broadcast… Proclaims ‘discussion’ was sincere and not for propaganda purposes… Developing…
Uh huh. Meanwhile, “Son Chris Wallace weeps, begs dad to ‘please take pills.’ Developing…”
(h/t Ardolino, who admits to a “Saved by the Bell” fetish that I think many of us have long suspected…)
YOu sent Mike Wallace? Now you guys are just sucking up to us. I mean jeez, give me a break. It’s no fun if you don’t even try.
– One of the heads, I forget which one, sitting in for Hume one day, had heard Mike blow off one of his usual Bysh-hating smears, and during the disscussion he asked him what was up with his dad.
– He actually said…”My dad…I really don’t understand him or the things he believes, I think he’s just lost it…getting old”.
– Bet there’s a ton of harmony at Wallace family reunions.
– Mike has always been an administration gadfly, no matter who’s in the WH. He just thinks thats the winning formula, ankle biting. Well at least up until his bud Rather bit the weinie. After that he went over the left cliff.
TW: After awhile its not delusion anymore. It morphs into full blown senility.
Can you say the words, Neville Chamberlain?
tw: poor. Poor Mike.
I heard the first ten minutes of Hannity’s exchange with Wallace.
If anyone here has ever read Shirer’s “Rise and Fall of The Third Reich”, I suggest you pull down your copy and direct your attention to the passage where Hitler addresses the Reichstag in the aftermath of Munich.
I have this feeling that Wallace, who most surely has to have read the book sometime in his past, is going to wake up some night and immediately throw up into his wastebasket. He attributed to the Iranian – “time beyond bombs and war, a time of peace and good neighbors” (paraphrased) – exactly what Hitler fed to his lackies and to the world.
Sad. Very sad.
Uh, just how goddamn stupid does one have to be to believe such a thing? My head hurts.
This is just 60 Minutes trying to get some ratings. Offer a “controversial” interview, make the blogosphere promote it, and otherwise make sure a whole lot of people watch those car ads.
Liberal bias in the media? No, it’s a corporate liberal bias. A subtle difference, maybe. But a difference.
I found Herr Hitler to be a charming conversationalist, capable of holding forth on a variety of subjects. The dinner was superb; the wine exquisite. Afterwards, we retired to the balcony, where we had fine brandy and finer cigars, while some chaps from the Schutzstaffel entertained us by building a hearty bonfire, upon which they slow-roasted some Jews.
TW: Now that the people of the Sudetenland are joined with their brethren, I’m sure Britain and Germany will remain forever friends
Damn. Yet another world leader with a civil engineering degree like me. All I’ve done with mine is…get a job…in…ENGINEERING. Pffff.
OK, Neville–in the future please give warning so that I do not spray Diet Coke out my nose and on the keyboard.
Mike Wallace trying for a Pulitzer ala Duranty?
“You can imagine what a bitter blow it is to me that all my long struggle to win peace has failed. Yet I cannot believe that there is anything more, or anything different, that I could have done, and that would have been more successful… We have a clear conscience, we have done all that any country could do to establish peace, but a situation in which no word given by Germany’s ruler could be trusted, and no people or country could feel themselves safe, had become intolerable… Now may God bless you all and may He defend the right. For it is evil things that we shall be fighting against, brute force, bad faith, injustice, oppression, and persecution. And against them I am certain that the right will prevail.”–Neville Chamberlain
It’s sometimes a mistake to judge a man by one press conference. That said, I don’t think Mike Wallace could shine Neville’s shoes.
Nah, Wallace is just 88 and going ga-ga.
Did Chamberlain visit H. once or twice? I seem to recall a later, painful interview where H. excoriated Chamberlain up one side of the office and down the other. Or am I getting it wrong.
It’s instructive to recall Churchill’s opinion of Chamberlain: although disagreeing with him entirely, he respected that Chamberlain had acted from the noblest motives. That’s the kind of dispassionate liberal attitude you seldom see these days.
Liberals CAN’T be this fucking stupid. Do the math for yourselves.
Ah, Sonderkommando Wallace, who was supposed to be the interviewing pitbull, tosses nerf balls and kisses to a man who claimed the holocaust never happened, who has said that Israel should be wiped off of the map and who is thumbing his nose at the world in open defiance with his pursuit of nukes. A man who is openly supplying weapons, soldiers and finacial aid to Hezzbollah, an organization who’s avowed aim is the destruction of Israel. And Wallace defends him.
Wallace is the same man, who decades ago, when asked hypothetically, if he was with enemy troops and they were preparing to ambush American soldiers, what would he do? Wallace said he would do nothing. If I haden’t always loathed him, I’d attribute his recent embarrassment to senility.
Hose
But those terrorists were created by Bush! and..oh… by the Zionist Neo-Cons.
Liberals figure that once you get rid of Bush and cut Israel loose, the
Islamo Nazioppressed insurgents will settle down, fly kites, raise fluffy bunnies and all will be skittles and non-alcoholic beer.Hmmmm.
Amazing coincidence enough, I’m playing a WWII computer game as the German player.
It’s 1942.
I’ve taken over everything from Spain east through Turkey. My flag flies above London and my panzers are forcing their way down through Palestine, towards Cairo, and eastward towards Baghdad and Basra and the oil fields. I’ve massed my divisions along the Eastern Front in time for Operation Barbarossa, I keep wanting to call it “Operation Barbasol” though, and my invasion of the USSR is on schedule.
I must say that Mike Wallace was indeed very useful. Ahhh. I mean Neville Chamberlain.
No idea why I’d get those mixed up.
I’ve heard many things said about Muslims, but that quote takes the cake. From whose ass did you pull that one out of, Mr. Unsupported Tailpipe?
Hmmm.
Actually there is one (1) jew in the Iranian parliment. It’s a guaranteed seat. But there is of course, only the one (1), jew in the Iranian parliment.
So I’m rather curious about that “many” being thrown around by Ahm-in-a-dinna-jacket.
“We have a clear conscience, we have done all that any country could do to establish peace…”
Like sacrificing the freedom and lives of the Czeks and the Poles. How noble.
The present infestation of appeasement leftists want us to withdraw to our national borders and wait till the nuclear hammer blow falls. Fuck the Iraqis who voted for freedom, fuck our ally Israel.
Only after our allies and tens of thousands of American citizens have been sacraficed on the altar of political correctness can we engage in a pure and virtuous war.
Never again? Never heard of it.
TW: truth (no shit)
Aw, Mike’s in love. Ain’t it grand!
I posted this at my blog earlier tonight and would like to get input on my mental health status:
I believe that one way the Islamofascists are communicating is through spam mail. What better way to anonymously communicate than to spread spam mail around so it’s hard to track the true intended recipient of a message? Of course, the originating email is bogus and traces back to no-where. The message also appears innocuous and wouldn’t generate a second thought in most people except to hit the delete button.
Sounds coo-coo, right?
I receive these very generic requests for mortgages, refi-s and shall we say pharmaceutical stuff all the time (don’t we all), but sometimes the “subject” line has an interesting word in it. Today’s word was “hudna.” A hudna is a false end to fighting or a cease fire used by muslim armies for centuries that is used to re-arm, re-equip and re-fight the cause. It lulls the enemy into thinking the conflict is resolved and then boom, fighting resumes with the element of surprise on the islamist’s side. Ever wonder why cease fires never work with Israel? The other side is only biding its time to fight another day.
So, an interesting choice in the subject heading, huh?
The email looks normal even bland when you open it, but on the far right side (must scroll to see) are usually a bunch of letters that aren’t words. On the bottom of the email (must scroll to see) is a nonsensical paragraph of real words that in no way relates to the purported intent of the email- mortgage, viagra, etc. So why are these things there? If you attempt to copy the contents of the email it shuffles the text of the email and an entirely new text emerges all interlaced together, not smushed but interspersed with the letters on the far right. If you try to highlight the text, the cursor bounces all over the content of the email highlighting single letters at a time.
This is today’s text at the bottom:
The automated kitchen produced another stale sandwich, the machine
was half-knackered and out of adjustment, along with a lukewarm cup of
watery cocoa. I crunched and sipped gloomily, then found the bedroom
Could the automated kitchen be London’s Islamist bomb factories, the stale sandwich be code for a foiled operation, the machine…cocoa, imply the materials were defective, and found the bedroom mean the email writer made it to a safe house?
AM I ON TO SOMETHING OR DO I NEED TO BE ISSUED MY MEMBERSHIP CARD IN THE DEMOCRATIC TINFOIL HAT BRIGADE?
Not trying to glom onto your blog, but this shit has been bothering me for a while and I finally drank up enough courage to go public with it.
Reaching for my Reynold’s Wrap….
Was anyone surprised with the bit quoting Wallace referring to Israel as “the Zionist state”?
Stephanie,
Were I to, hypothetically speaking, do something like that, I’d make certain that the trigger word in the spam had no relationship to me and my organization. But, yes, the technique is valid. Remember, it’s not wether you’re paranoid, it’s wether you’re paranoid enough… FNORD!
TW: Practice your marksmanship so you can fire a nice tight group
Jeeze, Wallace is still alive?
60 Minutes? I thought that was replaced by one of those silliest video shows.
WTF?
Maybe Lil Kim will have him over for a chat next.
The plot definately seems to be a carbon copy of Operation Bojinka. I’ve written a fairly detailed account about Bojinka. It can be found here: – <a title=”OP” href=”http://flashbuck.com/2006/07/04/operation-bojinka-and-9-11/” target=”_blank”>Operation Bojinka</a>
The plot definately seems to be a carbon copy of Operation Bojinka. I’ve written a fairly detailed account about Bojinka. It can be found here: –
http://flashbuck.com/2006/07/04/operation-bojinka-and-9-11
One regular feature on the Mike Gallager radio show is a call-in from Chris Wallace. He recently told a story about visiting his Father in the Hamptons. Mike Wallace took him to a big dinner party full of people bashing Bush. Chris took it as long as he could & finally ripped into the guests, tearing apart everything they said. There was a stunned silence & then someone asked Chris “Where are you from?”.
Chris said that they left soon after that & he doesn’t think Mike will take him to any more dinner parties.
In the two or three days before the arrests, the cell was going operational, and authorities were pressed into action. MI5 and Scotland Yard agents tracked the plotters from the ground, while a knowledgeable American official says U.S. intelligence provided London authorities with intercepts of the group’s communications.
Well, I certainly hope they got warrants first.
Gromit was always the brains of that operation, anyway.
The only thing I could think of while Wallace was blathering on to Sean about the glories of the misunderstood and eager-to-be-loved leader of Iran was, “What a pathetic sight – a delusional self-loathing Jew stuck in denial, slipping so publicly into senility.”
Stephanie: If you think there’s something wrong, forward it to the FBI with your concern. I’ve received just such an email, too, but I didn’t open it as I pre-screen my mail and delete all spam. You may be on to something. Don’t be embarrassed.
Mike Wallace and Daniel Schorr at the Shady Oaks Home for Should-Be Retired Journalists.
Apologies for OT …
Ed –
Which WWII computer game are you playing?
Wallace does not deserve the excuse of senility.
I have no idea whether ne’re-do-wells could use spam to communicate in code. But that spam with the watery cocoa text is old.
Wallace’s brain is now a hardened, shriveled thing. He started noticeably losing brain elasticity about 20 years ago, with a gradual acceleration over the last ten years.
It will probably happen to all you fellas as you approach geezer-hood. You can pass as normal for quite some time, but you lose your bounce and brilliance. Women get forms of dementia, of course, but on the whole women don’t suffer as much from the the same kind of brain stiffness as a result of late middle age – early geezerdom that men do.
It interesting and scary to observe men start losing the ability to screen their innermost thoughts. The discrepancy detector in the right hemisphere seems to suffer rather brutally.
Wallace has an old stiff and cracked rubber boot in his noggin now, the poor old sop.
I forgive Wallace for being old coot with a stiff brain. I don’t forgive anyone who thinks he should be listened to.
Wallace could clear that confusion up with, I dunno, some reporting or something. It shouldn’t be too hard for a crack shoeleather reporter like Wallace to find out if he was being fed a line or not.
Maybe he’s applying for a job over at Al
Jezeera and that’s his audition tape. Or
maybe Hizbulla TV.
I don’t think old age is the cause…he’s
always been that way. Age is just wearing
his filter a little thinner.
TW:seems like it to me anyway.
Bee-charmer – He had his issues, but he used to be more skeptical of EVERYTHING. I hate to show MY age, but I’ve been watching Wallace for 30+ years, and trust me, his brain has done froze up. It was gradual at first and then sped up.
Crackpot geezerdom is widespread affliction, and he suffers from it.
If his mental flexibility is in free-fall, He is zooming for the pavement now at top speed. He is not someone to be taken seriously. If he ever was, he is not now.
Stephanie, it’s not a bad thought at all, actually. There are a lot of possibilities to use spam for covert communications.
Hmmm.
If I write a paper on this, I’ll cite you.
It doesn’t have to be senility. It could be just plain old garden variety stupidity. Wasn’t the man once a quiz show host?
I don’t think either he or Rather are too bright. How are these mediocrities considered as pundits in the first place?
I hope Mike wore knee pads for that interview, for the sake of his aged joints.
TW=club. I don’t want to be a member of his club unless I can use a club for conversational emphasis.
Not exactly, but funny you should mention it . . .
No, it doesn’t have to be, but it is.
Wallace is obviously not so far gone that he is staggering around and drinking pap out of a sippy cup. However, he is on the downward slide into his dotage, and this noticeably began a long time ago.
Sarah,
I’ve discussed the spam thing before and I do not think it’s out in the tinfoil hat zone. Spam as coded communication would be a great way to communicate.
It’s no more far fetched than the ‘number channels’ that occasionally pop up on radio bands.
OK, now I’ll go fetch my tinfoil hat.
Yeah, back in the fifties.
Maybe he’s just off his meds.
Hmmm.
Right now it’s “Hearts of Iron 2”.
Frankly the AI isn’t all that hot. But on the other hand the game engine itself seems somewhat modifiable. I was thinking of picking up the the followup expansion so I could make a couple interesting scenarios. Perhaps a “Israel 1948” or a “Israel 2006” type scenarios.
IMHO it’s a nice game but the AI is not all that great. But it does have multiplayer so that helps a lot. The expansion is supposed to add more covert operations and a better AI, along with a scenario editor, so that’s probably a necessity.
IMHO I never could figure out why the Germans never either forced a the Turks to ally themselves with Germany or financed a coup in Turkey. Control of Turkey basically opens up the entire middle east for conquest, eases supply line considerations, denies the Brits any real chance of using their fleet to interdict and allows for direct overland control over the vast oil fields.
Hearts of Iron 2 website
WikiPedia: Hearts of Iron 2
Ahhh Daniel Schorr. It has been some time since I thought about him. Schorr gave my college commencement speech in 1990. Some where in the middle of his speech I actually started paying attention. It was the most depressing drivel ever spewed. Why me and my fellow classmates just didn’t commit mass suicide I have no clue because according Schorr there was no future. He and his generation were the be all and end all and really we had nothing left to achieve. Plus the world was ending because of the usual reasons. Now keep in mind what was happening in the world in 1990 … that whole Iron Curtain falling down thing. No reason why anyone should be optimistic over THAT.
I’ve bitten down, however inadvertantly, on a little tinfoil myself here and there.
Wasn’t it confirmed sometime back that that Islamoplotters had used image attachment files (mostly porn) to conceal communications? Secret spamination messages don’t seem impossible to me, but I don’t know enough about how that works to know if it is really plausible.
Isn’t the text-salad thing just a filter defeater?
That odd watery-cocoa story is old. Looks like it was just lifted from a lame myspace fan-fiction blog or something.
Ha, Ha, Schoolmarm. Told you so.
Hmmmm.
1. It’s possible that people are using spam to communicate secret messages. The problem though is that you need to use some sort of transposition cipher in order for it to work, and those kinds of ciphers aren’t all that secure.
2. Personally if I were a terrorist looking to communicate with others in an anonymous cell-base structure I wouldn’t use any email in any way, shape or form. Instead I’d create an amateur porn website that allows anonymous users to upload and download porn images.
And then I’d encode the messages as binary data spread throughout the JPEG image data. Use a standard algorithm that can both place and retrieve these message data bytes, along with a transposition cipher, and your messages are indistinguishable from errors or image data corruption. Or they may not be visible at all, particularly in a very large image file.
And what’s more ubiquitous than porn? Particularly when so many jihadists and radical muslims seem to have an extreme fascination with porn?
“Suspected”? Suspected?
Hmmm.
A few interesting links harvested from a very lazy Google query:
A BMP may be easier to use
Steganography
various Steganography schemes. Some interesting, some curious and some silly.
If anyone has any doubt whatsoever, here’s the important bits on Radioblogger of Sean Hannity’s interview of Mike Wallace…
Wallace is terminally stupid if he isn’t already dangerously senile. And I’m not discounting the possibility of both.
I cannot give him any credit for his so called prophecy. There was no mention of Islamic terrorists … only us evil westerners using up all the world resources blah, blah, blah.
Stephanie, that random crap is there to help get the e-mail through certain types of e-mail filters. If you and I were legitimately communicating via e-mail, we’d normally type at least something in the body of the message. If I was configuring an e-mail screening gateway, one of the things I’d do is discard any messages with no body text as being 99.99% more likely to be illegitimate than not. (Actually, if I was configuring an e-mail system and could get away with it, I’d allow only plain text through and solve a huge number of potential problems right there.)
As someone else mentioned, steg would be a better means of passing the actual content. Your notion does have some merit in terms of avoiding detection of intended recipients, though. If the e-mail is sent to ten people, it’s easy to check up on them and see if they seem to be potential terrorists, not so much so if it’s sent to five million people.
BECAUSE OF THE ROOT CAUSES!!
Or just code words. The jihadis have been known to use code like “party” and “fireworks” over the phone; a little more creativity could slip things into spam messages.
It’s not really different than putting messages into the personals or classifieds, come to think of it.
Nah, you guys, you aren’t thinking deeply enough.
Okay, yes, steganographic methods are really good. Back in about 1990 we showed at UNC that you could encode an *amazing* amount of stuff in a picture.
That doesn’t mean a covert channel in spam is either infeasible or useless. The “word salad” is a perfect place to use, not a cipher (ie, a reversible mathematical transformation of plain text to ciphertext) but a code: a mapping of symbols to arbitrary messages. Looking at your text example, let’s say we use the words immediately preceding punctuation marks for our code symbols. We have
But the message could be
“Run for the hills STOP Ahmed has turned.”
by having a code book set up previously, with
“sandwich” → “Run for the hills”
“adjustment” → STOP
“cocoa” → Operative ‘Ahmed’
“gloomily” → “turned”
Yeah, see there, Robert’s got it.
Thanks for the input. My thought was that when the text reshuffles when you copy it, that maybe the text reidentifies to arabic/english. I have noticed that on some of the arabic based websites that have both arabic and english commenters, some of the arab commenters will write their words in english alphabet, but the text looks like arabic so the words look like this a3b7h which the arab readers understand but the rest of us can’t read. I have noticed this at sites like Iraq the Model and Big Pharoah. The reshuffled text is way funky looking and does look like arabic, but who the hell knows.
The spam filters caught the email and threw it into my spam folder, but it is still available to read for anyone who would be on the lookout for it. The rest of us would just clean out the folder without opening the email.
You could send the original spam from anywhere and both parties would be untraceable.
I average about 3 or 4 of these a month and they kinda stand out because the subject line doesn’t look like the subject lines of the other 99% of junk that comes through.
It could just be an attempt by spammers at bypassing spam blockers, but it sure seems a good way to communicate without leaving footprints.
Jim,
That’s just it. The spam does have a body of text. It usually looks like the usual solicitation from mortgage or viagra spammers. 99% of us would see that and hit “del.” You don’t even see the weird shit until you open up the email and scroll. So it just looks normal.
Embedding a message into a pornsite may not be viable; because, either the sender or receiver may be on the net from a location that filters those types of sites from access. Do you look at porn at work? Alot of these grubs have regular jobs to help their cover.
Charlie,
That’s my thought exactly. I have Asperger’s, so I think a little differently than most anyway. I see patterns in all sorts of shit.
That’s why I am a data quality analyst.
It is nice to know that I’m (probably) not off my rocker.
Hmmmm.
Amateur photography is the key. The actual content involved hardly matters really. The most important aspect of using steganography to encode messages in graphic files is that the original must absolutely be original and unique. You cannot simply rip an image off the net and use that, because then a third party could grab a copy of the original image and then do a binary comparison and thereby extract out the encoded message.
But if you’re the one that actually took the photo, then there is no available original that would allow a third party to extract the message. As for porn, it’s an option. You could make it an amateur bird photography website and it would work just as well.
Or any of the more popular image sharing websites out there would do.
As an aside many years ago I wrote an image editor that was intended as a proof-of-principle for virus deployment. The object was that the image editing software would act as the host for an encoded virus planted into a ubiquitous image.
The intent, if I had ever intended to release this, was for the image editor to be downloaded by prospective users from various shareware and freeware websites. In normal operations the software would work perfectly fine. But when it loaded an image into a read buffer I’d read about 35 bytes more than necessary making it seem like a bug, but a harmless one.
However if the program found a specific binary sequence in that 35 byte space it would then look in specific places in the image data for encoded instructions.
With this I could get the image editing software to search the harddisk for specific data files and forward them to specific addresses or perform specific operations on that computer. The best part is that this would completely bypass every viruschecker, well at the time. Not sure about now. Plus the desired operations, file searches and destination addresses could be changed for each separate image file.
*shrug* sorry about the trip down memory lane.
Not most of the spam I get. It looks like text, but it’s actually a series of graphics.
Hmmmm.
The only problem with that is that this is an extremely primitive cipher that’s been in widespread use for very long time. Remember the “Teflon Don”? He tried using this technique as a means of ordering hits without the potential for prison time, and it didn’t work.
Once the federals get a handle on what the key words are they can quickly determine what words equal what actions. Pretty soon they’re deciphering in real time because they effectively have the codebook.
A steganography based system that encodes encrypted messages into images files *and* uses a one-time pad for the seed value of an encoding/decoding algorithm would be as close to unbreakable as anybody not in the NSA could come up with. Particularly if each and every communicating pair had it’s own specific and unique one-time pad. And that one-time pad could also be a unique image.
Let’s say I want to communicate with Stephanie. We both have an identical copy of a unique picture of Kabbalah in Mecca. This is our shared one-time pad source. Now I take a photo of a local shopping mall parking lot, again a unique photo. Now I run a piece of software that takes my message and encodes it into the shopping mall picture but encodes it using a set of rules that determines the specific pattern of encoding from a specific byte from the image of Mecca.
Once done I send the image in an harmless email to Stephanie.
When she gets the email she loads the image into her version of the software that then uses the same exact byte in the Mecca image to begin extraction of the message from the shopping mall image.
…
My point is that this would look entirely and completely harmless as well as completely automated. If Stephanie wanted to then forward the message to someone else she could do so by using a different one-time pad image to do so. Even the email addresses could be encoded into that one-time pad image so that I wouldn’t even know Stephanie’s email address. Instead I’d write the message, use the encoding program and it would do all the work.
Even the application used to encode the messages could be a plug-in for Microsoft Word.
*shrug* or at least that’s my personal opinion.
And yes there are ways to hiding the encoding/decoding code in a program that would make it extremely difficult to spot even with a detailed inspection by a computer geek. But I ain’t gettin into that here.
I’ve had some good laughs today, but none as good as Benedick’s post. Youll have to scroll up to his post to get the link. but if you missed this, it’s more than worth the trouble.worth the trouble.
Wallace has been giving dictators tongue-baths since George Hamilton got his first sunburn.
Wallace famously said he wouldn’t warn American troops if he knew they were about to be ambushed. So why would we expect him to warn Americans now?
As with the current spoon-fed “journalism” in Hezb’Allah’s case, how does one go to a dictator’s country–a dictator who can have you killed–and ask the hard questions? Wallace solves the problem via the tongue-bath.
I read that there were several reporters who had been harrassed and even threatened by the Hezbo–I wish i knew their names. That’s who I’d like to read.
Zionist Entity meet Lyin’-est Entity.
why are we strangled by the mainstream media whenever we mention this disconnect: Why cower in the corner wondering how the wsm will interpret facts on the ground or those that are in evidence; namely, I think Bush needs to gtow some gonads, and I don’t see that occuring Anytime Soon.
Dear Jon:
Well it is obvious I didn’t get that figure from one of your Liberal anti-Israeli apologist anti-American hypocritical web sites. The number was taken from the movie “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West”. However, you can look up the numbers yourself. Now I know, you Liberals are not used to dealing with facts, and so when one is presented to you, you get all emotional and start calling names. Worse I think is the way you guys project. You know, since you Libs pull numbers and stuff out of your asses, you naturally think everyone does. Now, if you think that number is too high, adjust it to where you would feel comfortable. How about 1-5%? Or 0.1-0.5% Do those numbers make you feel better? I have an even BETTER idea. Why don’t you watch aaaaaalllll the footage of all those happy little “Religion of Peace”nicks jumping up and down chanting “Death to Israel, death to America” and count them yourself? Oh..that’s right….there aren’t REALLY any terrorists anyway, right? They are just in the imagination of Bush and Blair as a way to distract you from the oil, right?
Now why don’t you get off your mom’s computer and let the grown-ups talk. Besides, aresn’t you working the fries tomorrow after school? I suggest you study harder in History, Current Events and Social Studies before attemptin to troll web sites little boi.
TW: Stay off the Internet and keep your trap shut UNTIL you pull your head out of your ass and get an education you booger-eating-moron.
Well, Mr. Hosedragger,
First of all, it’s odd to be accused of calling names when responding to something from a person named “Hosedragger”. Second, those statistics you cite are still a load (maybe a mother lode) of complete crap. And third, it’s odder still to be accused of calling names from someone who accuses me of being a “booger-eating-moron”, which is an odd grammatical construct that appears to be some sort of an attempt at being an adjective. The hyphens are confusing, but maybe the same film company that produced “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West†also made its own stylebook.
You are a sad man or thing. I want our nation to fight an effective war against Islamists, but if I’m not in complete accord with every anti-Muslim statement uttered or thrown out on every comment thread I suddenly become a delusional leftist, a homosexual (or does “little boi” refer to something else, your language skills make it quite possible that you aren’t a closet case), and someone who lives with his mom.
Let the record state that Hosedigger brought up the charge of projecting.
The name Hosedraggerstems from my career as a Fireman/Paramedic. However, you have yet to prove anything I said wrong, and just your saying so, does not make it so. As far as the insults, as you started it in your post, I figured that is the only way you knew how to communicate. Now, unless you care to disprove what I have stated with facts, you are nothing but a barking little anti-American hypocrite who is attempting to “dazzle” people with your word parlay. Again, you have nothing to back you up whereas I have made a fatual statement and backed it up with my sources. Take your attempts at hijacking and frisching this blog and go play on your Kos site with other closed minded conspiricy theorists before your mommy gets home and catches you on her computer again. Your attempt at turning the whole “projecting” thing around failed miserably. I can always prove my life and facts…how about you little man? Disprove with facts or STFU
TW: Mayhaps it isn’t his working the fries today, but the whole salescounter in the food court at the mall.
Good sir,
Your “sources” number exactly one. And that is a propaganda piece that gets raves from people like Dick Cheney’s right hand woman and Michael Medved. I’m not impressed.
Plus, “Fundamental Terrorists” is an absurd term. Do you mean “fundamentalist”, or are there even more of them when you count the “somewhat-leaning” and the “gives-money-which-might-somehow-employ” terrorists among the 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.
I’m all for hunting down and killing the loonies among them, but the use of such a broad brush to state emphatically that two- or three-in-ten Muslims are terrorists is just plain cuckoo. You obviously believe that, but your “facts” don’t sound credible.
I can’t disprove your assumed “fact”, so you can go on with believing your own version of the truth. But until you can offer up the source of the information as something other than “It came from this one movie I saw,” I’ll have to agree to disagree. Was there a poll? an in-depth tracking of the true feelings of 1.2 billion people? Who are the filmmakers and their producers? Does that even matter? Until you come up with some answers other than “This film says so, so it is,” I’ll keep calling your numbers bullshit.
Oh, and sorry for calling you “Hosedigger” at the end of the last posting. I had the Monty Python “Philosopher’s Song” in my head at the time. Hosedragger/Heidegger, I’m sure you get that all the time.
Cheers.
No, I don’t get that anytime as the vast majority of people know that “hosedragger” refers to firemen. You go on to say ‘I can’t disprove your assumed “factâ€Â, ‘ but yet attempt to with conjecture. WHy don’t you go and do a bit of research al by yourself and see what you come up with? You do know what research is don’t you? It is what people do to prove or disprove statements or facts. Instead you just come across as a simpering little apologist. You say you are all for hunting down and killing the “loonys” amongst them, yet I have severe doubts. You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding just how many of them there are. I would venture to guess you feel Hezbollah and Hammas, and the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade are all being picked on by Israel. I bet you don’t believe that there were any terrorists in Iraq before the war. Why I would almost put money on the fact you believe in the conspiricy bullshit behind 9-11. Hey…did you watch “Farenheit” and believe all the crap Moore spewed?
See, you are the type of person that only looks at one side of an issue…the Liberal side…and thinks that anything else is just “Right-wing lies and propaganda”. Your very post says as much. Then you spew off a line of attempted demeaning crap (such as an insult to the poster’s nick) to intimidate them and make their posting appear invalid, when you actually present nothing but ad hominim filth without being able to back up your claims, and have no other statement of fact other than what you feel or believe.
Until you can actually produce evidence that the numbers I presented are false, then your opposition to them are nothing but conjecture and hold no weight in a debate or argument. They are nothing but oppinion, and you know what is said about those.
Now go back to “Monty Python”. It appears world politics and events as well as global events and a religion bent on the murder and destruction of the non-believers that won’t stop until the entire world capitulates and the flag of Islam is flown from the White House and declared war on our country almost ten years ago is a bit much for your brain. It can’t be fought with feelings, but with strategy and brave men and women. Something that is obviously foreign to you.
TW: This guys thought process is akin to MOST from the “Daily Kos” types.