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“Imagine a world without Israel”

Interesting.  But while there’s a lot of talk about the tearing down of barbed wire fencing, the dismantling of checkpoints, and unicorns running free across the Levant (where they frolic with the peaceful sandal peoples), the author misses the most important benefit of all:  lower short-term interest rates!

To their credit, not even the Kossacks are swallowing this one.  In fact, one comment offered this bit of prescient exasperation:

Good friggin’ God—this is the second linked blog I’ve visited from one of these posters in the past week that is complete nuttersville […]

Has DailyKos become a magnet for complete lunatics lately?

Well.  Sadly, Yes!

(h/t Ron Ackert)

60 Replies to ““Imagine a world without Israel””

  1. Dan Collins says:

    It’s easy if you try.

    No Jews beside us.

    Above us only sky . . .

  2. Dan Collins says:

    Imagine all those Hebrews

    Bobbing in the sea . . .

    You hoo oo oo oo

    You may say I’m a dreamer,

    But I’m not the only one . . .

  3. Pablo says:

    I like the way that Jews get to live in peace and harmony with their liberated Arab neigbors once they’re outnumbered and powerless. It would be a nation of brotherly love and tolerance, just like all of the other places where Jews live in the region, right?

    Imagine!

  4. Stormy70 says:

    Lately?! This seems to be the norm.

  5. Rusty. Not your fathers goyim says:

    A world with jews…………………………..?

    Everybody! Sing after me! Deuchland!Deuchland! Uber alles…………….

  6. Rusty. Not your fathers goyim says:

    Damnit! – without-. Shit! insert ‘without’ up there. Goddamn lameass neocons.

  7. Dan Collins says:

    Sadly, No! Cut and Paste Exercise of the Day

    “Former CIA Officer Valerie Plame and Her Husband Sue”

    (sue Wilson; he kept his maiden name)

  8. qrswave says:

    ghee. I’m flattered.

    cheers, fellas!

    grin

  9. Sticky B says:

    Fuck!!! It was almost scary how reasonable the discourse was over there. It appeared that some of the older, better educated posters were tutoring the young moonbats in middle east history without distorting it. Today is a blip in the flatline of my faith in the left.

  10. Big Bang Hunter says:

    Has DailyKos become a magnet for complete lunatics lately?

    – Not at all Kommrads!. Such is the long standing tradition of the “Big Tent”. We even have pedophilic psychologists standing by to attend to your every need. Rejoice!

    (Sponsored by: Laika – the space dog – Beaming theropuedic tranquility passages from Marx’s “Poems for the Masses” to tin-hat komrads since 1957.)

  11. McGehee says:

    I clicked the link to qrswave’s own blog, and there’s a post there claiming he’s been banned from dKos.

    Credit where it’s due, if true.

  12. Slartibartfast says:

    I see he’s hooked into the whole 9/11 conspiracy machine.  Wonder if he’s interested in some really inexpensive (yet prime) real estate?

  13. Pablo says:

    ghee. I’m flattered.

    I’d rather you were flattened. You’re either disgustin, and idiot or both.

    Screw you.

    L’Chaim!

  14. The_Real_JeffS says:

    Has DailyKos become a magnet for complete lunatics lately?

    Does a bear shit in the woods?

  15. Pablo says:

    Does anyone know where the lunatic magnet is actually located here? Or is it a sonar beacon of some sort?

    It’s uncanny.

  16. BoZ says:

    To their credit

    Would that it were so. Unfortunately, it’s just more evidence of the obedience fetish they’ve got over there.

    On the last few visits I’ve made to Kos (a handful of times in the last few weeks), in each thread I’ve read, regardless of its topic (because the subject always comes up), there’s been a commandment laid down by some moderator or superuser (or whatever they call their most-equal pigs) that they won’t be tolerating this river-to-the-sea rhetoric, or these lazy conflations of Zionism and Nazism, etc., anymore.

    Suddenly. It was decided. Top-down.

    The leaders can’t be everywhere at once, though, so, being how they are, a posse of self-deputized lesser -sacks gathers at every violation of this latest stricture, raging at the loose-lipped, showing that they’ve snapped to the orders of the big pigs, looking up for their approval. It’s disgusting.

    Still, even with the new hate-hiding policy, the subject of Jewish evil arises less often at stormfront.org than in Kos diaries.

    And I question the timing of this sudden decision to alienate the base.

  17. Dan Collins says:

    Attention!

    BEFORE you say anything TEH STUPID about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, PLEASE read Frank J’s roundup of important background info:

    http://www.imao.us/archives/005788.html

    TW=firm: Frank’s grip on the topic (and I mean that in a Viking way)

  18. Big Bang Hunter says:

    McGehee – That just suggests that he’s even too unwound for them. Which is … well… Like being thrown out of a nudist colony for insisting on walking around bent over, cheeks spread, and singing the theme song from X-files out of your ass.

  19. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I havn’t been over there in months. Is Frank still slapping the space monkeys around.

  20. amk says:

    Imagine a world without Palestine… Actually, don’t worry about it. I’m sure we won’t have to imagine much longer.

    TW: peace. I don’t lie.

  21. err says:

    Imagine a world without Israel

    So does this count as eliminationist rhetoric?

    TW: If so, someone needs to make sure Greenwald and Mona get in their condemnations by the deadline.

  22. McGehee says:

    McGehee – That just suggests that he’s even too unwound for them.

    Well, I was willing to cut the moonbat munchkin a little slack for shitcanning the guy, but now after reading BoZS’s comment I think it’s not so much what he said as the fact he said it where we could read it.

    It makes more sense than any silliness about Kos having and exercising actual, like, non-hypocritical judgment.

  23. Great Mencken's Ghost! says:

    Has DailyKos become a magnet for complete lunatics lately?

    Lately?

  24. ahem says:

    Last time I checked, the highest-rated comment (33) was a sardonic post demonstrating the original poster’s idiocy. It heartens me to see that several of its readers have a moral compass that still works.

  25. N. O'Brain says:

    I DEMAND tyhat the right side of the blogosphere denounce FrankJ for being…well….I don’t know ….funny.

    Yeah, that’s the ticket.

    He’s funny.

    Someone gather the peasant crowd and light the torches.

    I’ll be over here spraying some Frank J repellent.

    “monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey”

    There.

  26. A world without Jews.

    Turing = values, as in It’s hard to come up with a good comment when this spamkiller keeps upstaging me.

  27. Pastaneta says:

    I am not surprised to see the left advocate another genocide…

    They are despicable!

  28. twolaneflash says:

    Sweet Jesus.

    That is all.

  29. BreezecJ says:

    Finally! A HuffPoster blogs about Israel!

    Check out what the liberal anti-religionists choose to blog about in the midst of this new Middle East violence.

    http://myfleetingthoughts.blogspot.com/2006/07/in-middle-east-day-some-end-timers.html

  30. Those at Kos seem to forget that the Holocaust happened in absence of Israel and are mistaken to believe persecution of the Jews would end if Israel didn’t exist.  History stands against such ludicrous suggestions.

    What is more, Islamic doctrine doesn’t specify to only kill Jews living in Israel, but where ever you find them, behind whichever rock or tree.

  31. Big Bang Hunter says:

    Breeze – That would have been better titled “www.myfleetingbraincells.huh”

    – If you havn’t caught the Malkin “Vent” on Burka Le’ chic, “Love your Burka”, its a rib breaker… here… But then not just anyone can eat fresh humus through a veil….

  32. ed says:

    Hmmmm.

    Someone explain to me why jews keep voting Democrat.

  33. twolaneflash says:

    I saw a little monkey,

    I wanted him to dance,

    Kos he just looked so funny,

    Wearing frilly pants.

    I threw to him some peanuts,

    Hoping he would jig,

    Kos monkeys do love peanuts,

    He pissed upon my leg.

    The organ grinder told me,

    Armstrong was his name,

    I can make this monkey dance,

    Kos money lights his flame.

    I threw to him some shekels,

    Not thinking where they went,

    Kos that monkey has agendas:

    Dead Jews, for it, was spent.

    And so I spanked that monkey

    Kos monkeys are insane,

    And when their world gets ugly,

    There’s always Jews to blame.

  34. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Make that “eat fresh humus through a thrice combed percale/silk blend bedsheet”….

    ed – Because of the freebees – Jooooossss are nothing if not good businessmen. they secretly think the Left is a bunch of unwound lunitics, who will never really effect anything in the world of politics…but they love the perks….

  35. jdm says:

    Those at Kos seem to forget that the Holocaust happened in absence of Israel and are mistaken to believe persecution of the Jews would end if Israel didn’t exist.

    The best thing about the creation of Israel is how so many Joos are now congregated in one place rather than sprinkled around, country by country… it’s so much easier…

    … shit, that’s a disgusting thought to actually write. And I didn’t even invent it.

    Jeebus.

  36. jdm says:

    Oh, yeah, sorry.

  37. steve says:

    The posting at Kos is absurd.

    However, I have to say that I think Israel in say a generation is going to be a lot different than it has been.  I would say the same about Europe, and the United States as well.

    Certain things run common in history.  One of these is that wealthy countries act as magnets to poorer countries, that wealth is redistributed by revolution (violent or peaceful) when the demographics warrant, and that whenever a country tries to nativize itself against teeming hordes of Others, they have already lost.

    I know people like to give the example of the Native Americans.  Couple things there.  First, there was a lot of intermarriage (my ancestors, among them; South Carolina Cherokee.) Second, there weren’t that many, WRT to the territory: density was not an issue.

    Another example has to do with genocides or ethnic cleansings.  Well, the Armenians are back in Armenia and Germans have been floating back to lands outside of Germany for awhile now, and, thanks to the extension of the EU, will be able to buy the old family farms in another 15-20 years.

    Demographically, the US is going to become more Hispanic (heavily Amerind south of the border already, BTW), Europe is going to become more Muslim, and greater Israel (Jordan to Med) will probably have a Pali majority in a few years.

    All these people are going to want to be treated as equals by the dominant cultures.  They will get it, eventually.  That’s just the way it goes.  In Israel’s case, they will never be able to “lock out” the West Bank, or Gaza, or their own Arabs.  Although today the Palis are proportionally much poorer and less powerful than their Jewish Israeli counterparts, that will change.  It just will.

    Meanwhile, Israel is becoming more secular.  More Israelis are thinking about living elsewhere; even today probably less than half of world Jewry actually live in Israel, I know several nominal Israelis who live in the Northeast who frankly prefer it here, for various reasons. 

    Meanwhile, the meme that Israel is unwise to Jews because it concentrates too many in one space, or the meme that Israel causes anti-semitism, are both frequently made by Jewish commentators (Tony Judt, et al.)

    So I expect that Israel is going to end up as a binational state, or even a blended state of Jews and Arabs. It will be much stronger for it, too. That’s my guess.

  38. Big Bang Hunter says:

    So I expect that Israel is going to end up as a binational state, or even a blended state of Jews and Arabs. It will be much stronger for it, too. That’s my guess.

    – Jeeeeze….that sounds so…. well…. 1948ish

  39. Verc says:

    So I expect that Israel is going to end up as a binational state, or even a blended state of Jews and Arabs.

    Well, you’re about 50 years too late. Thanks for getting on that ball though.

  40. steve says:

    I understand the sarcasm but you have to be realistic about these things. I see no reason why Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs will not continue to assimilate and as that happens the pressure for power sharing will increase.  Meanwhile, there’s no way that either Gaza or the West Bank will ever be self-sustaining.  Therefore, they will be part of the future Greater Israel.  As such, they too will demand their share of power, wealth, and whatever.  It may look impossible, but, that’s where I see it headed.

    BTW, forget about expelling the Arabs.  Where to?  Nope.  Israel is already obliged to provide most of the water and most of the electricity to the Pali areas, and that won’t stop.

  41. jdm says:

    So I expect that Israel is going to end up as […] a blended state of Jews and Arabs. It will be much stronger for it, too. That’s my guess.

    Based on the number of Jews in every Arab country- no, the operative word is remaining in every Arab country, my guess is that a blended state of Jews and Arabs will be temporary. When the majority of the Jews have been scared off to whichever country will take them and the rest threatened into submission or killed, a slightly less volatile, but still fucked up Arab State of Palestine will emerge.

    And when they fuck up their newly acquired state like they did Gaza and need/beg for hand-outs from the UN, they’ll still find a way to blame the Jews. I don’t know what it will be, but you can take it to the bank.

  42. Verc says:

    Israel is already obliged to provide most of the water and most of the electricity to the Pali areas, and that won’t stop.

    Until it does. I think that the Israelis are about done with the Palestinians. Their war will not end.

    Israel is going to have to go into the Bekaa valley in Syria to root out Hezbollah, and probably strike both Iran and Syria as these two powers are supporting terrorist groups against Israel. And that’s going to cost a great deal of money and manpower.

    So Gaza belongs to the PLO. Israel might just skip the energy bills this month. More important things in the budget you see.

    The thing about the past is that it tells us very little about the future. Israel does not have to support the Palestinians; it did not until the war in ‘67 (maybe ‘73, I forget). A future in which Israel has little contact with the Palestinians is quite imaginable.

    And with any population that elects a terrorist group such as Hamas, or Arafat, to lead them, it is–unfortunately–the more believable future.

  43. McGehee says:

    I DEMAND that the right side of the blogosphere denounce FrankJ for being…well….I don’t know ….funny.

    Especially with a shooting war going on in the Middle East!!!

    EVERYBODY STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!

  44. ahem says:

    Steve: Forgive me, but it sounds like you’re talking about a political solution. There isn’t a political solution.

  45. steve says:

    Ahem: Well, we’ll just have to disagree on that. BTW, love your email.

  46. MarkD says:

    Steve,

    Tell me you’re still a college student, please.  Because jdm just told you the outcome under your scenario. 

    Lots of people just don’t want to admit that there is evil in the world.  There are people who would kill you just because you’re not a muslim.

    You can try to ignore those people.  It doesn’t work.  Think Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot… If you like, tell yourself this time it’ll be different.  We’ll all gather round the campfire singing Kumbaya, drinking beer… Scratch that, coffee and eating hot dogs… Scratch that, falaffel or goat dick or whatever Arabs eat for picnic food… You can say grace before you eat.  Scratch that too.  You wouldn’t want to offend anybody, right?

    I would like nothing more than to be left alone by those people.  They have decided otherwise.  My son-in-law and 100 plus thousand of his friends are putting it on the line.  Like my grandpa in WWI, dad in WWII, me (Vietnam era)…

    Yep, we’ll have to disagree.  Lucky for you, the disagreeable will protect your ass as well.  Because I don’t think you’d like life as a dhimmi.

  47. lonetown says:

    Do you think Jews will start to vote for Republicans now?

  48. B Moe says:

    Muslims, Jews, and Christians could live in peace without fear of mutual destruction…

    Palestinians and Jews could live together and the world could address other issues…

    What a simpler place this world would be…

    Is it so hard to imagine?

    Franklin Graham was on Cavuto this morning saying almost the same thing.  He seemed to think that Jesus removing the hate from Mans heart was the answer, imma go see if the Kossacks agree.

  49. Carl says:

    Maybe the title should have read, “Imagine a world without Syria and Iran”

  50. Darleen says:

    amk

    Imagine a world without Palestine

    Point of order…there is not, nor ever has been, a nation of Palestine. “Palestinians” aren’t.

    The Islamists are fighting to regain waqf (land that has been conquerored by moslems remains consecrated to moslems for all eternity… like Spain)

  51. Darleen says:

    Actually I’m surprised that any criticism of that diary is allowed to exist.

    I was banned years ago from dKos (got to make a total of two comments) for having the temerity to suggest that Israel was a sovereign nation entitled to self-defense and was not the sole reason for ME “unrest.”

  52. B Moe says:

    They banned me after one comment suggesting that moderating their message might be the key to getting more Democrats elected.

    TW: research-> it’s true I had none to back up that opinion, but still…

  53. Scape-Goat Trainee says:

    Last time I checked, the highest-rated comment (33) was a sardonic post demonstrating the original poster’s idiocy. It heartens me to see that several of its readers have a moral compass that still works.

    That’s easily fixed.

    Just go to Kos and post that Bush also condemns the original poster’s idiocy.

    Then step back and watch…

  54. SPQR says:

    Blast you, Jeff, don’t mention unicorns.  Bill might see it.

  55. I am imagining a world without Israel….not a pretty place. Scares the hell out of me, in fact. They never stop with one satan. They’ll finish off the little satan, and then come after us big ones.

    Imagine there’s no Europe.

    It’s easy if you try.

    One million Peugeots burning,

    and screaming “youths” say DIE.

    Imagine all the “guest workers”

    burning down their flats

    you hoo may say that it’s wishful thinking.

    But I’m not the only one

    Just give the “Asians” power,

    and all of Europe will be gone.

  56. Dan Collins says:

    Thanks for filling that out, JaK

  57. jimmy's attack rabbit says:

    Re: Imagine no Israel

    All they are saying is give Jihadis a chance.

  58. Peace is like, so, July 10th.

  59. shruti says:

    should write on different topics like world without light

    Should imagine a world without light and write on it. Just an example.

    Can do it also.

  60. ahmed shaheen says:

    the world will be much better as i think

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