… Because, well, sometimes that’s the only way you can get people to listen. And we all know that the problem with the message of anti-war ideologues isn’t that voters have consistently rejected it (or that, hell, even those who’ve embraced it reject it, when push comes to shove); no, rather it’s that they simply won’t take time out to really, you know, listen to it. The stupid, stupid, stupid, stupidheads.
But that’s all gonna change, particularly if former intelligence professional Larry Johnson has anything to say about it—he of the al Qaeda isn’t a threat / Rove will definitely be indicted “intelligence” reporting, who just tonight pens this sit-up-and-listen bit about Rove, who it turns out probably won’t be indicted after all:
Karl is a shameless bastard. Small wonder his mother killed herself. Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out. It would be one thing if his vile tactics were simply mere smears of politicians like Kerry and Murtha. They are big boys and should be able to defend themselves quite ably against this turd.
[my emphasis]
”Small wonder his mother killed herself. Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out.”
This, my friends, is the conjoining of conspiracy-minded paleocons with the face of the modern deranged leftwing of the Democratic party—where a former intelligence officer writes publicly that a Republican strategist’s inveterate evil was responsible for his own mother’s suicide, and where even the spokesperson for the last presidential candidate is unhinged enough to suggest, on the record, that Karl Rove should be concerned about getting cornholed in prison.
And yet these people—thanks mostly to their enablers in the press—are often trotted out as serious critics of the administration, and seldom shown for the vile and vicious anti-intellectual thugs that they are. Whether it’s Howard Dean calling Republicans evil and saying he “hates” them; or John Murtha convicting soldiers of murder in advance of a full investigation; or a low-rent castoffs like Johnson, who the MSM routinely turns to when they need a good anti-war intelligence source, mustering up the guts to say that Karl Rove is responsible for his own mother’s suicide—the bile is there for all to sample, if only the MSM weren’t so good at controlling the information flow.
But the question is, how long will the legacy media be able to keep a lid on this stuff now that the information superhighway has so many toll free lanes? They’ve shown time and again that they’re willing to insulate their ideological fellow travelers. Can we count on the American electorate to overcome what one media professional once suggested was good for 5-15% points in the polls?
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(h/t topsecretk9 and corvan, via email; see also, STACLU and Sweetness and Light)
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update: Johnson has altered his post somewhat, evidently in an attempt to “soften” its earlier depravity. It now reads:
Karl is a shameless bastard. This could explain why his mother killed herself. Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out. It would be one thing if his vile tactics were simply mere smears of politicians like Kerry and Murtha. They are big boys and should be able to defend themselves quite ably against this turd.
All the following is new:
But Rove, like Josef Goebbels, has used fear and smear as his primary tools to keep George Bush in power. And to what end?
Let’s start with Karl’s participation in exposing the identity of an undercover CIA officer in order to divert attention from the fact that George Bush, over the repeated protests of the intelligence community, falsely claimed that Iraq was trying to get uranium from Niger. This was not just a human foible, a mistake. It was a bold lie used deliberately to incite fear and justify invading Iraq. They could not afford to admit their lie so they let George Tenet take the blame.
Rove did not stop there. Conflating Saddam with Bin Laden was part of his Fear Factor America campaign. He helped convince most American’s that Saddam was in bed with the man and the group who attacked us on 9-11. I give him credit for doing masterful deception operations, but I loathe what he did to America and its standing in the world. The fear of Bin Laden and the fear of nuclear Iraq were the key ingredients for the war fever Rove helped whip up.
Now, if fat Karl had been at the head of the line to enlist in the Army and help lead the invasion, I wouldn’t be so cranky. But he didn’t, and Cheney didn’t, and Wolfowitz didn’t, and Rummy didn’t and the Bush daughters were busy getting drunk in DC bars. What is it about Republican chickenhawks who played every angle during the Vietnam War to avoid going to war but have no hesistation to start a war in Iraq and send other peoples children into the fray?
We are now embroiled in a civil war in Iraq where we are busy killing Sunni insurgents while helping Shias with close ties to Iran consolidate power. Most Sunnis are convinced we want to exterminate them. As a result we will remain a main target for Sunni terrorism for at least a generation. Thanks Karl. At the same time, Karl is helping whip up new war fever against the new enemy in Iran. If you oppose invading Iran you hate freedom and are selling America’s freedom to an Islamic Adolf Hitler. At least that’s what Karl wants you to believe.
Karl and the Bush Administration have consistently used the threat of terror, the threat of Saddam, and the war in Iraq as a political club to destroy their opponents and to consolidate their power. Retired Marine General Mick Trainor, along with Michael Gordon, has chronicled this cynical policy in their book, COBRA II. This is no longer a matter of opinion, it is a documented record of fact.
When decorated war veterans like John Murtha and John Kerry dare to challenge the incompetence of the Administration in its prosecution of the war in Iraq and its wildly chaotic counter terrorism policy, Karl and many Republicans respond by accusing them of being soft on communism, oops, excuse me, I meant terrorism. I for one am fed up with these tactics and will fight back. Karl and his ilk are getting America’s sons and daughters killed in Iraq and in Afghanistan. He compounds the horror by wrapping himself in their blood and their sacrifice, claiming that only Republicans genuinely care about the troops. Yeah, the Republicans who sent our troops to Iraq with insufficient forces, with inadequate body armor, and with non-existent planning for the aftermath. And Rove has the balls to blame Democrats for this debacle? No dice fat boy.
The time has come to say enough. This is not about Democrat, or Independent, or Republican. This is a fight for the soul of this nation. Karl Rove may have cut a deal to stay out of jail and avoid prosecution, but that does not free him to attack the patriotism of Americans who care deeply about their country and its security. I will guarantee you one thing—Karl’s mom would not be proud.
Personally, I think the addition of a Goebbels comparison really takes away the sting from the earlier draft.
But then, I’ve always been a fan of an artfully-placed Nazi reference.
(h/t Allah)
That quote from Johnson is one of the most despicable things I have ever read.
Now I know why “johnson” is slang for “dick.”
There are evidently no adults left in the Democrat party.
Karl, I’m jealous. Best I ever managed to get out of a lefty was to leave him standing in the middle of four lanes of traffic screaming that Bush was listening to my phone sex calls.
The left equates disagreement with them on any point to either 1. mental illness, to be mocked or 2. an evil that should be stomped on with no mercy. Responding with persuasion and/or logic rarely crosses their minds.
Both reactions are those of a totalitarian mindset. And we see that all modern totalitarian states dealt with disagreements the same two ways.
TW: red. Well, if the color fits……
When the left controls the education system in this country? When they take my money to buy the votes of the ignorant,lazy and criminal?
No.
I think I have a much clearer sense of his worth and utility as a professional intelligence officer now.
If this is what we had connecting the dots…..
Can’t wait for the “Sadly, No” highlight reel on Mr. Johnson. Should be a doozy…..oh, wait, they
LOVE Mr. Johnson over at “Sadly, No” and probably would project that he needs to stop bottling up his true feelings, stop mincing his words and just get it all out. You know, SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER and all that.
And yet, it’s the Rethuglicans that are the haters, right? The tolerant, non-judgemental,
intellectual, sensitive, progressives would never stoop to using a mother’s suicide to harang a political opponent, cause they’re so superior and all, ya know….
Keep it up Larry, you put the donkey in Democrat.
I have come to the same conclusion, I feel completely homeless politically.
The plinth that goes with that head must be brilliant.
This, my friends, is the face of the modern deranged leftwing of the Democratic party.
Sadly, No!
Larry Johnson is, after all, a <a href=\”http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/07/former_cia_offi.php\”>registered Republican</a> who voted for Bush in 2000 and his poppy in 1988 and 1992. Most CIA agents are pretty conservative: for some reason, though, they don\’t like cowardly snitches.
Now, now. I am sure there will be a thunderous denounciation by the Kos commenters about this kind of “hate speech”.
Really.
Hmmm. I can’t seem to find it yet.
Disregard last, continue to march. Out.
Wow, Larry Johnson is cruel. I just showed this post to my puppy, Mr. Scruffy. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on his snout as I just did a moment ago. He just couldn’t understand why Larry Johnson would make such a hateful statement when so many things are already wrong in this country. “Doesn’t Larry Johnson care about us anymore?†his eyes said, as he whimpered.
After all of that they call Republicans “haters?” Wow. Put down the bong, guys.
BECAUSE OF THE HYPOCRISY!!!
(Surprised that nobody brought that out yet.)
And WhoIsPablo, exactly how many CIA Agents do you know?
Them being all secrety and stuff…
Yes, Johnson is a registered Republican with a Kos Platinum Card and a thing for Jane Hamsher.
One of the Wesley Clark Republicans.
Which is why I said anti-war ideologues first, but then, because he is in alignment (in fact, he plagiarized from) David Wade, his words represent the nexus of conspiracy-minded paleocons and the face of the leftwing Democrats.
Sadly, Yes!
He’s also been very supportive of Jason Leopold as Sweetness and Light points out, and was also very supportive of Mary McCarthy. Makes you wonder about Jason’s sources. Did they include Mr. Johnson? Did they include Mr. Johnson’s friends? Think Truth Out will tell us on Monday? Is there something to the theory that rogue CIA agents tried to damage the Bush Administration? Certainly Mr. Johnson strikes the tone of a man who would do unsavory things, and he seemed friendly with Ms. McCarthy, of course, that’s no proof at all though. Time will tell.
Argh! Jeff stopping saying Esleyway Arckclay. My Gawd is that guy a pain… I am trying to forget him as soon as possible.
I think Larry Johnson’s gonna go to hell.
It’s almost like all the hate, lies, conspiracies and rage on the Left have created a sort of moral black hole, sucking the Democrats into oblivion.
Facinating, as Spock would say.
He also fans the civil war falsehood once more. I’m beginning to wonder how much of the media’s disinformtastion on Wilson, Rove and Iraq has come straight out of his mouth. Of course I could be jumping to conclusions. Time will tell.
Well, yeah, but “fat”…unforgivable! What’s next, “poopyhead”?
Convenient isn’t it? Wilson always touts his republican bonfides too (and never, ever misses a chance to roll out his medals and letters from Bush’s Dad), but I think THIS typifies his strong and deep conservative views, don’t you?…(warning this is a repeat of the overwhelming and incessant Liberal coverage this received way back when but, you know…)
and that is just the short version of the well known GOPer.
Uh, Mr. Goldstein, you already posted that text blurb you quoted in the update.
[url=”http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j157/Topsecretk9/LarryRoveSuicide.jpg” target=”_blank”]Shucks</i>..
<a href=”http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j157/Topsecretk9/FullLarrySuicide-1.jpg” target=”_blank”> to Bad…[/url]
there is little “internets” thing called…
<a href=”http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j157/Topsecretk9/LarryRoveFullSuicide2.jpg” target=”_blank”>Screen Shot</b>
Let’s see,
–“Let’s leave” is not a strategy.
–January 20, 2009–noonish EST–Someone check back with me on the whole Bushitler leitmotif. I think it will take a rather severe hit. That does not mean that I think certain “decorated war veterans” will do the hitting, mind you.
Also, this Johnson cat has been pretty close to the Wilsons as well. I don’t know if all of this is just coincidence, certainly it could be. But you’d think he merited at least a third of the media attention Karl Rove has received. Wonder why he hasn’t gotten it? Does the media give its sources even a cursory look see before they sprint to publish them?
Wishbone  I knew two, both assholes and dumber than a box of hammers.
goofed that up…but screen shots are
1
2
3
(got to get over that self tag thing on Jeff’s site—it’s almost too easy here)
Johnson strikes me as a classic crank.
I wouldn’t get too hung-up on his intelligence background until I knew what he’d actually been responsible for and why he’d left. Maybe he was just dying to become a food label inspector, but judging by his writing it’s likely that there were other forces at work
Ramsey Clark was a US Attorney General you know.
It seems that the Nazi reference is the watermark for the present day Leftist screed. That’s how you know it’s authentic.
The one indisputable fact that the Iraq war has brought forth is that there are many, many severely mentally ill people in high positions of responsibility in our government.
Imagine this Larry person actually being a member of the intelligence community.
Terrifying.
Is that the same Wesley Clark the unhinged left accused of war crimes in Bosnia?
There was a railroad bridge that was hit by some smart bomb just as the train rolled up. 14 civilians died and the left claimed Clark tried to cover up the “murder” by…. “speeding the film up”.
I can see Clark being Democrat… they are not all bad… but if I saw the SOB that said that I was a lying war criminal at the YearlyKos, I’d kick the shit out of him.
Actually they are quite persuasive! I will never vote for Rove or GWB again! What?…. oh….
It’s sputtering bile, not once approaching a defensible point. But I bet he felt good when he said it, given that he has the temperment of a 4-year-old and the intellect of wood. The change is just as horrible, even without the addition of Goebbels (who had two but they were small). Does the statement become more defensible by changing “small wonder” to “this could”?
But it fits nicely with this bit of anti-semitic bile at Daily Kos.
shhhh. Don’t question their patriotism or their jew love…or their love of the troops. Now. They’ve got a Joe Lieberman race to defeat!!!
Holy Shit! BDS, it seems, is a progressive (if you’ll pardon the pun) disease. Just when you think it’s reached it’s peak, the derangement compounds.
I imagine soon, these guys are going to start bleeding from their ears, shortly before their heads explode.
Clinton disgusted me, and I actually despise the man, but I was always able to maintain my grip on reality, you know, a sense of perspective. The lefties of today IMO are quite insane. No, really. Seriously. Nuttier than Planters. I’m not a professional or anything, but it’s not like a fine line has been crossed. It’s more like an indy car blowing past the checkered flag in a tight race.
TW:I was thinking they couldn’t get much more batshit crazy, but now I believe there is no limit to moonbat depravity.
No, no, no. Don’t fall for it. Think for a moment.
They had him, they were that close. Rove had gone after some one and crossed the line, they were sure. They had him, but some how, some way, he avoided the frog march.
So what’s the new plan? Get him to attack again, throw him off, make him mad, get personal. When he slips up this time, and they’re sure he will, they’ll finally have him.
It’s merely a trap, make your opponent mad and he gets sloppy.
I’m surprised one of the trolls hasn’t showed up yet bleating, ”We’re haters?? What about Ann Coulter??” Boo hoo.
Spamword, “french.”
Mau Mau,
And Jimma Carter was president.
If Larry were my son, I’d have to consider a post-natal abortion.
Isn’t great? Shows just what a strong Atcus an Atcus is.
Hellooo out there? Actus? Actus?….. Anyone? ……….Anyone?………..
[pushing away a cute girl who wonders why that boy keeps staring at that monitor]
Sayid Qtub:”BECAUSE OF THOSE DAMN MARINE SNIPERS!!!!…..I mean seriously, did you see those motherfuckers? Them boys don’t play. Insha’Allah ‘n stuff..”
topsecretk9
they don’t have to say it here, they’re bleating it all over the place
AND saying “The republicans started it, so we’re just dishing it back”
Put on the hipwaders and see what passes for “intellect” on du
Johnson is a shitweasel of the first order.
That must have been a good page, Darleen. It’s down the memory hole now.
Darlee
The link didn’t work (shades of me)
but it gives me a certain sort of you know what for Larry’s stinking mouth to continually muck shit up for the (cue lisp…) sexy rockstar Joe….
Larry, Joe and Jason…unfortunate line-up/naming, but works.
JAYSUS…
Let’s try this again
here
You’ll have to copy and paste it, as it looks like DU doesn’t like links from Jeff’s site.
ARGH…
Wasn’t the best day for me…and shit like Larry is laying out about death in a family has me wanting to slap him so hard his fillings fall out.
Rightfully pissed off DU’er …
sensitive lefty responses?
Meeoooww!
BTW
since a DU’er says…There are no rules in war.…can we take that to mean their “outrage” at say GITMO supposed indignities and suicide are just TOTALLY FUCKING FAKE?
<b>HELP me Actus<b>
choice rancid nuggets from DU before it DOES disappear:
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ismnotwasm 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #7
37. Why does his childhood remind me of Ted Bundy?
Another murderous, sociopathic Republican.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy
Eh, I suppose not really similar but ye Gods and
little Fishes…
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KyuzoGator (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-15-06 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. Fuck Karl Rove with a jackhammer.
His personal pain brings joy to my heart. And I don’t care how unliberal that sounds.
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sparosnare (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-15-06 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #20
30. It might help explain why Karl is a lying sociopath.
Nothing wrong with pointing it out, maybe he drove her to it.
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RobertSeattle (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-15-06 06:33 PM
Response to Original message
10. Let’s “Coulter excuse” this…
While I endorse Larry Johnson’s content, I might criticize his style…
The new, all purpose, excuse anything excuse!
OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-15-06 06:46 PM
Response to Original message
35. The Difference Between repubs & Liberals
Fine, so we don’t need to stoop to their level.
But the problem with us libs, is that we’re so fucking “NICE.” Oh, let’s not say anything nasty towards Heir rover. Let’s not celebrate any misfortune in his life.
Do you think for one second that he would even give 1/2 a shit about any pain a democrat or liberal might feel? Do you think he cares about any pain ANYBODY except one of his chronies feels?
The man is a sick, twisted, vile excuse for a human being. One step above excrement that you step in and have to scrape off your shoes. I could care less about any misfortune he suffered during his lifetime. He’s making out pretty good right now, and probably could care less whether he had loving parents when he was younger.
All he cares about is power and wealth. Helping rid the country of people like us on the left. If he could get rid of the entire Democratic party, he would. And I assure you, he wouldn’t care how it was done, or anything which was necessary to make it happen.
He can go fuck himself, and he deserves every single bit of pain he’s felt during his miserable fuck of a life.
trumad (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-15-06 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #17
28. I would say that I hate Karl Rove.
Edited on Thu Jun-15-06 06:40 PM by trumad
The damage that he has inflicted on this country is indescribable.
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-15-06 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #17
51. Rove was an evil bastard
long before that happened so I don’t have any sympathy for him at all. Read about what he was like in school before he was even a college student. I know people that worked with him back in the 80’s and he was an unmitigated son of a bitch then.
Wait, we’re at war with the DUers? This means we can shoot them, right?
Darleen…
His personal pain brings joy to my heart. And I don’t care how unliberal that sounds.
Well bravo Mr. Johnson. Thank goodness that someone has finally decided to stand up and say no Mr. President. Just no. Frankly, I was worried that no one was ever going to stand up on the left and try to “fight back”, as it were.
TW: there are evil forces at work, like Karl Rove and PNAC.
These people are fucking repugnant. How do you get to the point where saying this kind of thing about someone is okay?
No, we want to carefully preserve their stupid little lives so that they can eventually be beheaded by their allies, the jihadis.
BECAUSE OF THE IRONY!
~~~~~ Larry Johnson Possible Plagiarism Alert! ~~~
http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000214.htm
Coulter writes a rather pedestrian description of an event that may be original but isn’t unique, gets accused of plagiarism. Larry makes a baseless speculation that’s been made before … hey! we’ve got ourselves a ballgame.
and this from QandO
oh, yeah – former NSA, TS-SCI, two tours Korea, 208x4G, equivalent of a current 98G.
I get the sense that I acquired and analyzed more actionable intel as a lead op in one eight hour mission than Larry did in his three years.
Just how long can the crushing collective of mush continue to maintain it’s insane hate before it turns itself into the insane asylum, permanently.
Some DU’er regarding suicide:
Do these people have souls?!
This is supposed to be important, but we’re supposed to ignore Phelps being a registered Democrat?
Now, maybe I’m a little slow, but am I right in interpreting the “rules” these people are operating under to consist of “we’re always right; you’re always wrong”?
NYC Mayor Bloomberg had to change from D to R because there were too many Ds running for him to be noticed yet this did not stop Bloomberg from continuing to behave like a blubber-bellied fat-cat nanny socialist his D ideology represents.
On the way to work this morning I plan to tune in NPR, fully expecting to hear Larry Johnson being asked why, if we got Zarqawi we can’t get Osama. The answer will involve Karl Rove, Goebbels, and the peacefulness of Islam.
Q: Why did Vince Foster shoot himself in the head?
A: To get to the other side.
Not even true. Rumsfeld was a Navy pilot.
Couple of things more about Johnson, for anyone who didn’t know them already:
* He wasn’t with the CIA for long;
* He and Mary McCarthy didn’t get along when he worked for her, but when she got in trouble he changed his mind because of the Bush-bashing opportunity it presented;
* He’s big in VIPS, which is openly encouraging current and former intel pros to leak damaging information to undermine the current administration
What a peach.
My favorite DU quote:
Wow. If the plan is to rid the country of this vermin, don’t you think they should, you know, START rounding them up or something ?
They only have 2.5 years or so left. They’re running out of time to get rid of these people since they’ve yet to rid of us of even ONE that I’m aware of. Perhaps the DU folks could point us to the secret prisons where all the lefties are being “disappeared” to.
Fucking morons.
You don’t understand. The moment a person declares himself a Republican, his military service is declared null and void. That’s why Bush “dodged the draft” by flying jets while Gore “served his country” by carrying a camera.
The same is true for all those who served but support the WoT and OIF; if they had the correct opinions, the left would have them leading parades, like they did with the decorated veteran Jesse Macbeth.
High flying. As that commie anti-american, Colin Powell said:
He should have also added something about those that carried cameras. Like Daniel Ellsberg.
Did actus really just compare Al Gore with Daniel Ellsberg, or did my wife put psilocybin on my pizza again?
Either way, that Sesame Street song is going through my head. One of these things just doesn’t belong!
Um, no. I think you will find that Goering was the one with two but vary small. The unmutable laws of internal rhyme necessaritate that “Goebbels / had noebbels / at all.” Aslo, Worfowitz.
actus, first, nice ellipses, and excellent innuendo, as always. Yes, “high.” Very clever. That is one funny meme in search of a scrap of fucking evidence to support it.
I’m always puzzled when people like Kerry attack W for not serving in Viet Nam, when their view of service in that conflict was generally so negative. Wouldn’t bomber interdiction over the Gulf of Mexico have been preferable to all that raping and butchery and Jen-jiss-Khanery? Are they resentful he didn’t camp out during that dark night of the soul alongside them?
OK. Why is the democratic party like NASCAR?
Because they only make left turns and cover the same ground over and over.
The lefts dislocation from ‘real’ america is evidenced by the increasing sputtering vileness of their rhetoric. They seem not to have noticed that as of 9/11 the rules changed.
Jonah Goldberg had a little mini-tangent going on the Corner yesterday about the various “Jews” of Star Trek…the Ferengi and Cardasians, and he asked someone to show how the Klingons were racist.
I e-mailed him that since the Klingons, on DS9 at least, engaged in a pre-emptive unilateral, war-for-the-sake-of war against the Cardassians, they’d be Neo-Cons (and, hence, Jews). I’m glad to see I have witheld backing my play.
From Johnson’s About page:
I can’t say for sure that being a character-deficient overcompensating mouth-bully is required at CIA.
But character-deficient overcompensating mouth-bullies certainly orbit and are drawn to CIA.
Say, what’s the latest on Mr. Frogmarch anyway?
“The time has come to say enough. This is not about Democrat, or Independent, or Republican. This is a fight for the soul of this nation.”
Why is it that anytime I see a quote in this vein, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is from a deranged barking moonbat suffering from severe BDS or RDS ?
Sherard sez:
They’re everywhere, man. You can’t swing a shackled transgendered vegan without hitting one. After all, Bu$Hitler has been locking the left up for 5.5 years now. The thing is, the prisons are disguised to look like your mother’s basement.
Now, if only they’d take away their internet connections….
I didn’t think the Klingons were Jewish (like most of the other Trek Aliens) until I went to a bris. I know a little Klingon and have the fonts on my ‘puter. I opened the prayer book and looked at the Hebrew and said, “OK that’s the Klingon connection” Bothe the old and new Klingon fonts look Jewish.
He says:
Huh? Anyone who thinks that needs to get his head examined. The Sunnis are pissed because they’re out of power. And was the left, so worried about the Sunnis now, this worried about the whites of South Africa when they gave up apartheid? Of course not. Apparently, a class of oppressive ARABS is just fine with them.
Makes you wonder what the DU uniform might look like. You know, since they would want surely to live up to the Geneva rules. I’m pretty sure it would involve lace and some form of tights.
The DUer who said that needs to up his meds.
“Whoever battles monsters should take care not to become a monster too, for if you stare long enough into the Abyss, the Abyss stares also into you.”
â€â€Friedrich Nietzsche
I can’t describe the revulsion I feel reading this.
It’s like Satan ripping a hole in the space-time continuum and giving you a glimpse of hell.
And those floors were brilliant!
Question, how bad do you have to screw up not to be able to keep a job with the Federal Government?
Compare? all I know is both carried cameras. Ellsberg got hollered at by some guy that was escorting him. At least according to his memoirs
I googled it.
Isn’t it common knowledge that he’s cleaned himself up? From what?
I think Dubya did the smart thing. People were going to jail, canada, etc… He certainly got a better deal. Though I suppose its a bit reprehensible if it was something more available to the elite. Like how its easier to get an education deferment if you’re not working class. But you can’t blame someone for doing what they can. But we can hold them to what they’ve done.
YEAH MAN! You tell ‘em Johnson. You’re not gonna take it any more. That’ll really show America! Scream at the top of your lungs! You’re gonna get nasty and impugn Karl’s mother and you’re gonna scream and you’re gonna pitch a fit! Yeah, I think that’ll be effective.
Is it just me? Or does it seem like Mr. Johnson was one of those kids whose parent’s idea of raising a “good little prince” consisted of never setting any limits on his behavior – so they never let him hear the word “no” because it might damage his precious self esteem. And now that he’s not getting exactly what he wants, he’s utterly incapable of processing the concept.
I was beginning to miss the little act-hole, while all of the sadelyno trolls were running around here. In retrospect, that whole abscense makes the heart grow stronger thing is complete and total BS. I still cannot stand him.
Its world cup time. sorry.
Despicable and unhinged.
I heard it’s because he was raped by his step-father’s dog as a child. And liked it.
But don’t quote me.
actus
You still flogging a perception and not the facts.
GW put IN for a unit that would go to Vietnam while Kerry put IN for a unit that would not.
The vagaries of military service is that whatever you put in for most times ends up a crapshoot.
Now, you may disagree with the outcome of GW’s intentions, but if you are discounting them, you’ve been sleeping in Jeff’s classes again.
Me, too. And my wife, Morgan Fairchild. And probably more than a billion other people. Oh, and Ellsworth and Gore are both white males! Ooooooh – there’s just got to be a connection there.
The dragging-in of Ellsworth could be a prime candidate for a Wikipedia entry on non sequitur. Actus, I still consider that you might not be an idiot in real life, but you do a wonderful portrayal of one in blog comments. I mean, no one could actually be this stupid, coult they?
“But Rove, like Josef Goebbels, has used fear and smear as his primary tools to keep George Bush in power.”
Uh, Josef Goebbels is trying to keep George Bush in power? Larry isn’t even grammatically coherent.
Let’s see. Canada or the cockpit of an F-102A? I’ll admit there was a taxicab window protecting me, but Brampton ON always seemed a lot safer.
And it was never as simple as “there’s a waiting list” or “there isn’t.”
JD: It might very well be a fight for the soul of the nation. Hugh Hewitt has an interesting post on the disaster that will follow if Dems who are led by the Kos have any success. There’s a particularly interesting quote from Mark Steyn.
Really? I rememeber during election season the Kerry campaign was touting some letter he wrote requesting service in vietnam. While there was some other thing where dubya checked some box that he didn’t want service abroad. But maybe the TANG would go to vietnam.
Probably. I mean, you join the Maryland national guard, who knows where you might end up.
Not during the vietnam war. Then again, Ellsberg was under fire with his camera. I don’t know about Gore.
Also, the phrase “Champagne Unit” had nothing to do with mission of the unit or the dangers involved, it had to do with the background of the volunteers.
Serving in a “Champagne Unit” is not synonymous with ‘easy duty’.
Hmmmm…. two more of these explanations and Bill Safire will promote me to “Language Maven, First Class”
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and, to reiterate, there may be a factual dispute regarding the suicide which is at the heart of Johnson’s bilefest.
“Palace Alert.”
I seem to recall my older brother talking about all the great tang he got in Nam. Guess actus knows what he’s talking about, this time.
See, there was a way that TANG people could volunteer for foreign service, perhaps in Vietnam. But not all of them got the opportunity to go abroad, as the program ended about a week after they graduated from flight school.
Hey, TANG was going into Space in the 60’s. What’s the big deal about Southeast Asia?
I gotta question for you actus, I graduated high school right at the end of Viet Nam, close enough that I had conversations with my buddies about going to jail on principle or fleeing to Canada, totally buying into the bullshit that Kerry and all his Winter Soldier buddies were spewing. I would have liked to join a military I could have been proud of, and saved my parents some money by going to school on the bill, but to my present shame fell for the leftist hype.
How am I supposed to feel when I get called a chickenhawk, now?
– Hmmmm….. Sooooooo then has the eeeeeevil RoveRat been impeached yet…. because you know….if not I want my damn money back….
Hmmm…”photocopy” implies “carried a camera”? Well, it’s possible I missed something. I probably missed where Ellsberg was shot at, too.
Most likely, though, this is yet another actus abuse of history, where two things that are very, very unlike each other are compared side-by-side.
the program ended about a week after they graduated from flight school
Which was, you know, part of the plan.
– Johnson is one of the “group of 12” or something like that number, (Wilson, McCarthy, ect ect)….that Liberal “mole” chart someone did a while back…. The usual expected obligatory raving since the latest “GetRoveGate” craped in their Granola’s again…..
So when did you fly the F-102, jokingly known among it’s pilots as a “brick with fins?
Seriously. When were you in the service and what was your MOS?