24 Replies to “#PlannedParenthood Fetal Harvest Chart [Darleen Click]”

1. cranky-d says:

   July 25, 2015 at 2:37 pm

   I think my response, after the immediate shock of it, was, “Of course they’re doing this.”

   Remember, kids, dehumanizing humans makes it a lot easier to kill them. “Lump of tissue,” anyone?

2. geoffb says:

   July 25, 2015 at 6:59 pm

   The new term is “product of conception.”

3. dicentra says:

   July 25, 2015 at 7:39 pm

   CALVARIUM!

   C’mon, Ramirez, that was one of the best euphemisms to come out of that first video.

4. dicentra says:

   July 25, 2015 at 7:52 pm

   Don’t read this article unless you’ve got a strong stomach:

   I was born into a family of famous gay pagan authors in the late Sixties. My mother was Marion Zimmer Bradley, and my father was Walter Breen. Between them, they wrote over 100 books: my mother wrote science fiction and fantasy (Mists of Avalon), and my father wrote books on numismatics: he was a coin expert.

   What they did to me is a matter of unfortunate public record: suffice to say that both parents wanted me to be gay and were horrifed at my being female. My mother molested me from ages 3-12. The first time I remember my father doing anything especially violent to me I was five. Yes he raped me. I don’t like to think about it. If you want to know about his shenanigans with little girls, and you have a very strong stomach, you can google the Breendoggle, which was the scandal which ALMOST drummed him out of science fiction fandom.

   …

   My observation of my father and mother’s actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become “who they really are.” It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other “isms.” If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be “normal” and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as “straight culture” goes the way of the dinosaur. As my mother used to say: “Children are brainwashed into believing they don’t want sex.”

   Fruits of the sexual revolution and DON’T JUDGE ME CHRISTER!

   h/t Insty

5. cranky-d says:

   July 25, 2015 at 8:01 pm

   I used to read a lot of Bradley’s work years ago. I noticed that some of it had a lot of gay themes, but I ignored that since it wasn’t a necessary part of the story.

   Maybe I don’t need to re-read any of her work.

6. dicentra says:

   July 25, 2015 at 9:52 pm

   The thread at Insty’s indicates that when her pervert-enabling behavior was exposed that lots of people tossed out her books.

   I think it’s safe to say that Moira’s parents were full members in good standing of the Sexual Pervert Community, and therefore the people Moira would have met were all members or recruits thereof.

   Hence her blanket condemnation of the whole homosexual phenomenon.

   I sincerely hope that she’s wrong about the extent of the perversion, and that there is a goodly number of gays who Run Screaming from that darkest of underbellies.

   Tracy? Any insight?

7. dicentra says:

   July 25, 2015 at 10:29 pm

   Remember, kids, dehumanizing humans makes it a lot easier to kill them. “Lump of tissue,” anyone?

   On Twitter yesterday Jeff and I tangled briefly with a coterie of self-described atheists who were suspicious of my arguments, even though I always restrict myself entirely to verifiable biological realities and the ethical implications thereof.

   They kept demanding that I reveal myself as a Christian, because obviously I was making proxy arguments for Theocratic Rule — or as one allegedly fair-minded gent called it, “Christian Kulturkampf.” He failed to reveal himself as a member of a group that fights Creationism with Science while at the same time accusing me of intellectual dishonesty about my True Motives.

   He (@RJDownard) insisted that the presence of an operational brain in the gestating human is the dividing line between person and not — which, fine, but why there? He never answered.

   Instead he argued zygote:baby::cake mix:cake, which I challenged by noting that a cake mix left alone on the shelf merely goes rancid, and to convert it into a cake you need “higher intervention,” whereas a zygote left to itself grows and develops.

   And that you can eat both the cake and the cake mix.

   He bowed out of the discussion after that. @ProtoAtheist took a powder after I called BS on his claims of being a molecular biologist and then pointed out that in the 4th dimension, our little zygote selves still exist. (Had I my wits about me, I’d have asked him to justify the covalent bonds between mother and child.)

   I’ve blocked the third member of that unholy trinity (@SoulLessAI9), a nasty piece of work who called me a dishonest purveyor of straw men but refused to elucidate, and then he turned his attention toward accusing Jeff of molesting his own child based on Jeff’s avi.

   And we all know how well that goes over.

   P.S. I just found Downard’s exceedingly self-flattering evaluation of his activities:

   Followers cas [sic] see me applying #TIP methods with Twitter creationists, flushing out their non-sources by non-aggresive [sic] but witty questions

   I must note that (a) his inquiries were passive aggressive and (b) not witty at all.

   It’s hard to know whom you’re actually dealing with on Twitter or how representative their ideas are. Sorosbots are known to increase the perception of their numbers by manning multiple legitimate-looking accounts, much as a small army camp makes itself look bigger by building a lot of fires, spread out.

   Most normal people avoid the rough-and-tumble side of Twitter, if they’re on it at all. God help us if that’s not the case.

8. Wild Bull McGehee says:

   July 25, 2015 at 10:42 pm

   everyone is naturally gay

   o_O

9. LBascom says:

   July 25, 2015 at 11:07 pm

   o_O

   Yeah, it’s hard to put words to it huh?

   My first thought was ‘see,this is what happens when you become so fascinated with your own belly button lint you forget how nature actually works’.

10. sdferr says:

    July 26, 2015 at 6:57 am

    How nature works has been a good question, running its way right through western life since round about 600 BC. One of the puzzlers seems to have been over the issue whether it works super-naturally, with most of the conclusions reaching “no, it doesn’t”. Swan-gods, for instance, don’t impregnate human women to cause them to bear pairs of twins. Sorting that out, however, has been a bloody business because of the way nature works.

11. Wild Bull McGehee says:

    July 26, 2015 at 8:14 am

    One would assume the lack of supporting evidence — and the enormity of the contrary evidence — would make “everyone is naturally gay” a non-starter.

    But then, we’ve long since figured out that th Left is anti-science.

12. Wild Bull McGehee says:

    July 26, 2015 at 8:16 am

    This wireless keyboard sometimes makes my comments look as if Al Capp wrote them.

13. sdferr says:

    July 26, 2015 at 8:23 am

    In a sense we’re looking at ways (methods, tools with which, etc) to cut up the cosmos. For instance, right vs. left cut. Or take time, ancient vs. modern cut. Or geography, east vs. west cut. We articulate, which in general means to cut at the articula, the joints, like dismembering a carcase according to its jointed nature. Squabbles over cuts of beef erupt, where the French prefer this way, the Italians another, each by tradition, bequeathed teaching and so on. Somewhere along the way a huge crowd began to favor mathematics as the preferred tool. Yet, it ain’t necessarily soap, since others preferred raw power. Rubbing out nature just came naturally to them.

14. bgbear says:

    July 26, 2015 at 8:35 am

    If PP was not profiting from tissue harvesting, why were they talking to a new potential customer/donee? What about their old customers?

15. Bob Belvedere says:

    July 26, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    Sdferr wrote: …Swan-gods, for instance, don’t impregnate human women to cause them to bear pairs of twins….

    Says you!

16. sdferr says:

    July 26, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    heh, right again there Bob, said sdferr, skeptically pointing at the hearsay nature of most all myth and revelation. But that’s likely a happy part of what makes it so satisfying to people — we’re greedy gossips from so far back we can’t even remember how we got that way.

17. Bob Belvedere says:

    July 26, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    I got my way by listening to Wagner.

18. LBascom says:

    July 26, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    Nature loses much mystery when you live with it. A hundred years ago 80% of the population worked in agriculture. Common sense was necessary and respected.

    These days, after a period of wars and Industrial Age manufacturing, the automation of everything, and the current teaching that everyone needs a college degree, about 5% of the population knows what agriculture even is, and biology is a mysterious construct of the man.

    I will admit though, I posit that if there were no social taboos or any stigma at all toward homosexuality, there would be a more bi-sexual people.

    But “everyone is naturally gay”? Ya gotta work hard to reach that level of ignorance.

19. Wild Bull McGehee says:

    July 26, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    These days I wouldn’t be surprised if the self-reported bi population wasn’t lower than actual simply because there’s no social cachet to it. They get the third letter in LGBTQWTFLSMFTFSLICHIJKLMNOP, but nobody’s writing idolatrous magazine profiles or making Oscar-guaranteed docudramas about them.

    So they claim to be exclusively L or G and keep the straight part of their preference in the closet with the polyester leisure suits and the mom jeans.

20. Ernst Schreiber says:

    July 27, 2015 at 10:14 am

    Nature lost much mystery when we decided to torture her secrets out of her. As to whether that was in search of something high and lofty like TRVTH, or something low and crass like transmuting lead into gold, is a question best left to philosophers –after they’re done trying to figure out how a Swan makes it with a young woman in the first place.

    As for the other subject under discussion, I think Catholic anthropology, with it’s emphasis on attraction, does a better job of describing human sexual pychology (if that’s the right term) than does our current reliance on orientation. Be interesting to know where the lingo comes from and how it evolved.

    Any historians of Begriffsgeschichte out there?

21. Ernst Schreiber says:

    July 27, 2015 at 10:21 am

    And quickly just to add, Moira Greyland’s comments are best read in light of Tammy Bruce’s on the pervasive malignant narcissism to be found on the identity politics Left.

22. Wild Bull McGehee says:

    July 27, 2015 at 10:32 am

    As to whether that was in search of something high and lofty like TRVTH, or something low and crass like transmuting lead into gold, is a question best left to philosophers

    There are as many reasons as there were participants. It takes a certain kind of self-proclaimed philosopher to argue that there needs to be only one reason for anything.

23. sdferr says:

    July 27, 2015 at 11:21 am

    Why not simply what seems to have been the thrust of the project Ernst, rather than truth or lead-made-gold? Namely, the relief of mans’ estate, i.e., air conditioning, abundant food, and so on? The escape from a life of eternal scarcity into a life filled with abundance, to say that another way. The strange thing in our times, at least on the surface, is the incessant demand that men return to a world dominated by scarcity. That’s the nutty business of so many today.

24. Ernst Schreiber says:

    July 27, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    Fruits of the sexual revolution and DON’T JUDGE ME CHRISTER!

    Don ‘t judge me christer BULLY

    Via Elizabeth Price Foley

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