“If it can happen in a small country town like this, it makes you wonder what’s happening in other parts of the nation.”
For all those people who pooh-poohed the idea that the government would ever go after religious symbols on grave markers
Linda Baker lost her battle with cancer last week. She was the wife of Mark Baker, the pastor of Harvest Baptist Church in Ovid.
Adams said her mother-in-law was passionate about her Christian faith and her family. Her final wish was to have her cemetery marker engraved with the ichthys, a symbol of early Christianity. She also wanted the word ‘Jesus’ written inside the fish.
“At first they told us it wouldn’t fit,” Adams told me. “But after we kept pushing them the cemetery director told us that it might offend somebody. They weren’t going to allow it.”
The family was devastated and asked the cemetery director to reconsider. He refused.
“He said, ‘What if somebody wanted to put a swastika?” she recounted. “My reply was, so what if they do? It’s not my business how they want to be remembered.”
The family then took their concerns to the Sterling city manager – but once again they were rebuffed.
“He refused to work with us,” she said. “He said he would have to take it to the city attorney. They were being difficult.”
She said city officials kept telling them that people would be offended by the name of Christ.
“We weren’t asking for a six-foot neon sign,” she said. “We did not want to put a cross on everyone’s tombstone. It’s a six-inch fish with the name ‘Jesus ‘ on it.”
So the family decided to post their plight on Facebook – and that’s when the city had a change of heart.
Told you so.
Giant Statue of Jesus Christ Erected in Syria
– Giant statue of Marx erected up Obamas ass.
the cemetery manager’s name is Shawn Rewoldt
he might could be a momo
here is a picture of him
yup it’s very possible he is a momo
it says he got an award last year!
i call bullshit on his customer service skills I think in fact he has a lot to learn in this area
Considering the morale of liberty against the backdrop of the Fabian intents we have drawn historical references to the Polish Solidarity movement. Several weeks ago we outlined one such similarity; in in response a reader who lived through the experience we were outlining wrote a message to share:
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Dude has only been there five years or so. What did he do before that? Not much would be my guess from his well-groomed appearance alone.
I call bullshit as well, happy. This is his first taste of authori-tay and he’s running with it.
They should have used Greek
Who would have known?
the baracky
Obama sold himself to the voters as the candidate of the future. His real talent however, is in missing every train that history presents. It has been said that “generals always fight the last war, especially if they have won it”. With Obama it’s different. He always fights the last war, especially if he lost it.
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If the name Jesus offends you, you need to go away and fix your life and not come back until you’re not such a stupid asshole. Then apologize for being such a douchenozzle.
If the “I’m looking for a reason to be offended and sue” has time to troll graveyards, I suggest they find a better use for their time, such as speed bumps, bungee jumping sans bungee, cliff diving when the tide is out, etc. Oh, and their friends should upload the resulting video.
If the “I’m looking for a reason to be offended and sue” insert word “crowd” has time to…
potpl page 212
Unhappily, when the post-war psychosis and passion had died
down, hate was once more whipped up and fostered by the socialist
governments. It was not of the frenzied variety, but instead was
more cold-blooded, premeditated and thorough. Hate became an
instrument of political power – particularly after 1948. A whole
ideology of hate came into being. This ideology justified everything
it required; everything was permitted to achieve its success; it
encouraged hatred and even required it on occasions. There can be
no worse threat than this to human morality and life. While,
unhappily, we find hate in various guises all over the world, hate
here has its specific features. The education of people into a single
permitted ideology creates a much more extensive basis for such
hatred. Hate is thereby-c’nationalized”, as it were. It assumes the
most varied forms at every level: regional, district, local, federal and
international. In this way, lies, violence and hate become an
indissoluble trinity. Each needs the others. Half-truth hates because
it is afraid and, because it is afraid, it employs violence. Violence in
turn is a power which serves and coexists with hate – and lies are
used to excuse it, and so on.
It’s just that Jesus has that tea-party vibe to him which is so uncool.
Yeah, it’s the limitations inherent in the “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s” bit, because everything must exist solely to benefit the religion of State, which is a jealous god.
Caesar has been getting some funny ideas about what is Caesar’s these days. Like Soda portions and opinions on global warming that aren’t congruent with settled science.
Caaesar wants to spank me for chewing pastries into gun shapes. Caesar is suffering from advanced syphilis or something.
A monarch’s neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. — Robert A. Heinlein
A monarch’s neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him from making any sudden moves. — Me
– “The Obama administration need the gen Y’s to sign up, and theres no reason for them to do that.”
– Gee, you think?
– Progtards are terminally naive.
So if someone doesn’t believe in the part of the constitution that says the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed then why do they believe the part were they gain authority to make, interpret and execute laws when voted in or appointed? Seems like if the “rights” parts are such bullshit the authority and structure part must be bullshit too. But the statists only like PART of the constitution.
So they don’t allow Latin-Americans to be buried there eh?
F*cking Progressives aren’t going to be happy until it comes down to a fight.. a real fight.. not internet Facebook snarking.. and I say Amen to that.
They really need to remember who owns those 310 million non-military firearms that they find so icky and scary…
And since they will likely be thinking that the police and military will protect them, I would like to point out a few bits of math they have ignored.
47% of Americans admit owning at least one gun. (Roughly 150 million)
There are more than 23 million veterans in the US.
There are approximately 800,000 police officers working at any level of government (Federal, State, County, City, School), and roughly 2.3 million military members (both active duty and reserve, all branches)
150 million vs 3.1 million. And not all of those 3.1 million will support the government if things go pear-shaped.
Police only work when people respect the badge they wear, otherwise, they are just well-equipped targets. Verb sap, eh?
Drum, you know what’s even more interesting about that math? Don’t even have to take out the cops. Take out their vehicles and support infrastructure and watch the cops decide to find another line of work. Kind of hard to do any policing without transport and communications.
It’s like they think all those veterans have forgotten all the sneaky stuff they learned…
Like how caltrops can disable vehicle… make them big enough, they can disable tanks.
Or how fuel (both gas and diesel) can be completely ruined with the addition of substances easily available in any grocery or convenience store.
And look at what kind of things the Bolt Weevils managed to pull off…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cu_project_controversy
Leftism is a disease what needs curing.
“Like how caltrops can disable vehicle… make them big enough, they can disable tanks ”
Them’s called dragons -teeth and are often made from reinforced concrete or welded cut i-beams.
The problem with a gun ban is that the culture has to want it and even then…you have to ignore the underground scene or it looks like the ban is not working. Seriously check out the underground g=indoor gun ranges in the US and the number of ‘unaccounted for’ weapons in Canada. Who are they fooling but themselves? It’s the law abiding who get disarmed.
Think of alcohol or drugs or even CFC’s. All of these things were heavily produced and smuggled while banned. Think about underground gambling like Bodegas with an 8-liner machine arcade hidden in the storeroom.
You think the police want to go disarm the outlaw biker clubs?
Think of the Sten sub-machine gun and a huge potential black market and tell me that you won’t have heavy manufacturing cartels cranking out stampy aluminum or polymer guns or kits and pieces for anybody who knows somebody and has the money. Also realize that there are lots of surplus old CNC machines around. There are 5 axis mills that cost less than $20,000 now. Many can can talk to a smartphone or a USB stick to get their g-code.
Imagine how much money will flow out of environmental causes and INTO legalize or decriminalize gun movements.
An excellent essay by the soon-to-sainted Bill Whittle on that very subject…
http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000013.html
Another thing the anti-second amendment people don’t consider; if someone like me is to become an outlaw, which I will because Molan Labe and all that, do they imagine I will be an outlaw with mere SEMI-automatic?
Don’t think so…
Actually, the swastika was an auspicious religious symbol millennia before either Adolf Hitler or Nazism was thought of. And especially in the Indian religions, still is considered so.
palaeomerus says:
LBascom says:
This is why I don’t own any firearms. If I did, I’d just have to give them up, so why bother?
Also realize that there are lots of surplus old CNC machines around. There are 5 axis mills that cost less than $20,000 now. Many can can talk to a smartphone or a USB stick to get their g-code. – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51609#comments
The first AR 15 forging would take me 12 hours on a manual mill. The second would take 4 hours. Every one after that would take about 3. if I took the time to make fixtures I could knock one out every hour.
Rich Fader,
The swastika is also a familiar design element in architecture that predates the Nazis. My undergrad had previously been a Catholic orphans home and the main buildings had them in the tile work.
That’s just silly, Ernst. The happy switch is wildly overrated. Most people firing auto aren’t going to hit a damned thing with anything but the first round of the burst.
Psssst. You can make your traditional guns into automatics and back to not, very easily.
No one needs to know but you.
As a peace loving, law abiding citizen, all I’m saying is that, if you’re really worried about agents of the government showing up on your doorstep looking to curtail your Second Amendment rights, by force if necessary, I don’t see the point of keeping firearms, conventional or otherwise, lying around for them to confiscate.
And declaring your intention to stop respecting the law when and if they do likewise strikes me as, well, reckless.
The point is to impress on lawmakers the reckless nature of disarming law abiding citizens.
I’m not a criminal. Turn me into one, by denying ANY of my inalienable rights, at your own risk.
“This is why I don’t own any firearms. If I did, I’d just have to give them up, so why bother?”
I would submit to you that we currently have a government that believes that you don’t “own” anything but a responsibility/obligation to feed them revenue or vote agitate for whatever they want you to vote and agitate for.
“And declaring your intention to stop respecting the law when and if they do likewise strikes me as, well, reckless. ”
1. Did Pol Pot only kill the noisy reckless assholes who were causing trouble and totally asked for it? Was he an agreeable reasonable sort when deferred to?
2. The Gadsen flag emblem/device is a snake giving due warning of the perils of molesting or endangering it. If the snake doesn’t rattle is he preventing molestation and endangerment from an unwary foot? To rattle or not to rattle before the need comes for striking?
3. “We hold these truths to be self evident ” –> “Reckless” seems to be baked into the national bread to somewhat though perhaps less now than ever before.
Well, given how careless and accident prone I am, I guess in this partcular instance, the government just might have half a point.
I agree with Lee’s point about only outlaws owning guns if guns are outlawed.
I used to have a hat that said as much.
Until I lost it.
Snakes that rattle get shot.
Also, I’m not planning to become a kingpin in a new post-gun ban black market but what makes guns any different than any other contraband? Even in countries that currently have severe gun restrictions? What makes this group of double barrel twelve gauge chuckle heads who can’t launch a website and blame attacks on foreign office facilities on offensive youtube videos capable of enforcing their ban to any great effect? Especially when they are backed by people who think a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up and that it is legal to buy a grenade launcher at Walmart?
People who miss their shot at the snake get bit.
Snakes that don’t rattle get shot too, and stepped on. And worse.
Honestly, I go back and forth on this one.
Does, “this house protected by Smith & Wesson” on the front door make you less likely to be burglarized, or more likely?
I depends on if the burglars can read I guess.
And what they’re there for. And how ready they are to resort to violence to get their way. And how much value they place on their own physical well-being.
Broadly speaking, we’re in agreement. At least in the sense that you haven’t written anything I disagree with.
Only if he’s too close to what’s mine. I have almost ten acres and snakes are free to hang out anywhere on it that I don’t use, but if he’s on my porch or my backyard he’s going to get dead in a hasty fashion.
Also, if I happen to be in my woods and one waits until I’m within striking distance to let me know he’s there, I will certainly be less than accommodating — but if he gives me plenty of warning I’ll be happy to give him space.
‘Cause might be he could help protect my living-in spaces against stealthy approach by critters with legs. Anybody that wants to approach my living-in spaces through the woods deserves to get bit.
You need to get a brace of yard birds, McGehee. Your property will be snake-free in no time.
Plus, eggs and fryers are handy when the Apocalypse comes.
Snakes are a better prowler deterrent than chickens. And if I need food I have Idi Amin’s cookbook, How to Serve Man.
I dunno, but based solely on a recent rash of news articles issuing from such northern quarters as Brooklyn, or parts of New Jersey, or Germany, or Greece, it had begun to seem as if the swastika is the new swastika, somewhat along the lines of black reemerging as the new black. However, as these appear to be matters of taste or trendiness, I’m likely disqualified by definition from any participation in the determination of them.
Then again, I’ve read chickens can be handy against ticks.
Chickens kill snakes, was my point. They are vicious little bastards.
And yes, they eat ticks and June bugs and other crawlies. They carry mites, though, so you need to keep their coop cleaned out and whitewashed.
Like I said, I have nothing against snakes per se, as long as they don’t act like progressives.
Understood. Me, I am not so diplomatic with the snakes. They get the shovel, hoe, firewood, axe, whatever is handy to splatter their evil heads and get them away from me.
I told my wife last year I wouldn’t mind a flock of wild turkeys taking up residence in our woods, and she objected strenuously on the grounds they can be mean-ass birds, especially during breeding season.
Yet the notion of resident geese in the pond didn’t seem to bother her.
Don’t let her get domestic geese. Evil incarnate. She’ll be a prisoner in the house with a gander in the yard.
Any goose that acts like a progressive in my yard is Christmas dinner.
My terror of charging geese is pretty intense. It’s close to the wasp landing on the face or huge spider crawling on your hand level of shock. I wonder if giant super-geese hunted and ate our tiny lemur ancestors and left us with a genetic memory that modern geese exploit.