… because single-payer has always been the goal
In just about seven weeks, people will be able to start buying Obamacare-approved insurance plans through the new health care exchanges.
But already, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is predicting those plans, and the whole system of distributing them, will eventually be moot.
Reid said he thinks the country has to “work our way past” insurance-based health care during a Friday night appearance on Vegas PBS’ program “Nevada Week in Review.”
“What we’ve done with Obamacare is have a step in the right direction, but we’re far from having something that’s going to work forever,” Reid said.
When then asked by panelist Steve Sebelius whether he meant ultimately the country would have to have a health care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”
Liberal fascism in full display.
If one was a cynic, one might wonder if the goal of Obamacare is to make the healthcare system worse and less affordable for middle-class Americans such that they will have no reasonable alternative but to call for a so-called “single payer” system to relieve them of its failures. cf. “There Was an Old Lady who Swallowed a Fly.” (“She died, of course”).
Alec
I feel like Cassandra, I’ve been saying for years that ObamaCare was designed to become so burdensome and onerous people would throw up their hands and agree to single-payer
argh
Liberal fascism in full display.
One might say “on prideful display” even, though the paradox of the incessantly lying Democrat openly demonstrating a pride in his tyrannical political philosophical position is a bit hard to bear. Still, I think Reid is very proud resting in his smug belief in his superiority over all the uncertainties of the world. It’s a shame to the world, however, that Sen. Reid won’t receive his due.
See? Since Obamacare will be moot, there is no point in Republicans fighting it, you pesky Teagaggers and Visigoths.
Boehner and McConnell can relax now… Oh wait, they’re already relaxed.
Oh wait, they’re already relaxed.
heh.
So relaxed they’ve already evacuated their bowels straight down their pants legs.
Yeah, but that makes you crazy. You can’t criticize the law except in the terms and upon the representations made by its supporters – not even are you permitted to, well, read the law as it has been enacted. Silly Teanuttzz!
It will be burdensome but the main “feature” of Obamacare is that by edits, on what will be covered and the price that can be charged for that coverage, the Sec. of HHS can “nudge” all insurance companies who wish to remain solvent out of the health insurance business. Once they are gone only the government will remain to provide the required by law health insurance.
If we are “lucky” it will be an age expanded version of Medicare.
If we are unlucky it will be Medicaid, for all, with all the Medicaid rules intact. Rules which will split the country into the peasants who are on Medicaid and are not allowed to have much in the way of income or property and those who by wealth to pay the fine and pay for their own care abroad or by waiver are outside the government healthcare system.
Lords and serfs, the objective.
Missing a “c”, edits should be edicts.
it will be Medicaid, for all, with all the Medicaid rules intact.
How could we do worse than the UK’s NHS? This. Like Mark Steyn says, America does things big. And when it does stifling bureaucracy, there is no equal.
An opposition party could really take advantage of this.
The GOP is the fascist party.
– It was always about control, complete control of the health system, and through it basically, every thing else in everyones lives, and getting rid of private sector influence, namely insurance companies, is vital to that goal. They did it with the car companies, the banks, the schools, now they’re after health care full force.
– Its all part of that “multi-front” attack on the Republic I voiced. Hit the country with enough actions at once and it will fall.
– Fuck the Commies and Fuck Obama *spit*
Health care is the brass ring. When government controls that, they quite literally own you. It isn’t serfs and lords, it’s slaves and masters.
OregonMuse at Ace’s posted two classic Glenn-Beck bits: one a wonderful dressing-down of Olbermann and the second the classic 2010 post-election gloat-fest.
Though the second one is also kinda depressing given the intervening events.
Splitter!
Give more power to Pyongyang on the Potomac? Where do I sign up!?
HappyProgressiveMan: “All your
healthcareSEAL Team 6 are belong to us [save any responsibility for the death of same, in which case US had nothing to do with it.]”All your “sources and methods” too.
I mean, who besides Edward Snowden knew Al Qaeda, what with virtual board meetings and such, were a bunch of Resident Evil fans?
Indeed LBascom, in the not-too-distant future, only the ruling class will be able to visit a real doctor, the rest of us proles will have to go see a .gov civil servant that will be reading a .gov written manual on treating all the symptoms that you describe to him. Real diagnosis, meh, that’s for real citizens! He’ll hand you a bottle of the .gov manual prescribed symptom treatment. If you get better, hey, you just won the lottery! Did anybody ever wonder why the Soviet Union had an over-abundance of witch doctors?
And since I’m making silly movie references, after reading that column sdferr linked the film that comes to mind is Eraser.
Yeah smmtheory, that too. But what I was really talking about is when you (we) are told if you don’t lose weight, no knee surgery for you! If you don’t do your mandatory calisthenics, no medicine for you! If you drive more than government approved miles, no ambulance service for you!
If you smoke (other than dope, which is a constitutional right), God help you, because no hospital will, even if it’s for something that has nothing to do with smoking.
Or, to put it another way; know how they use “sin taxes” to promote government approved behavior? Well, when they control health care multiply that by a thousand.
Best get familiar with the phrase, “yes massa!”
I should probably be boning up on the words to the,”Internationale”
Obazm, yesterday:
*** Now, what’s true, Ed, is, is that in a normal political environment, it would have been easier for me to simply call up the Speaker and say, you know what, this is a tweak that doesn’t go to the essence of the law — it has to do with, for example, are we able to simplify the attestation of employers as to whether they’re already providing health insurance or not — it looks like there may be some better ways to do this; let’s make a technical change to the law. That would be the normal thing that I would prefer to do.
But we’re not in a normal atmosphere around here when it comes to “Obamacare.” We did have the executive authority to do so, and we did so. But this doesn’t go to the core of implementation. Let me tell you what is the core of implementation that’s already taken place. As we speak, right now, for the 85 percent of Americans who already have health insurance, they are benefiting from being able to keep their kid on their plan if their kid is 26 or younger. That’s benefiting millions of young people around the country, which is why lack of insurance among young people has actually gone down. That’s in large part attributable to the steps that we’ve taken. ***
Cough *** normal *** cough.
If this thing plays out like it appears it will so will Harry.
Darleen wrote: I feel like Cassandra, I’ve been saying for years that ObamaCare was designed to become so burdensome and onerous people would throw up their hands and agree to single-payer.
I’ve been saying the same thing, Darleen, so I know how you feel.
This is why I’ve been getting so angry at those Right Wingers who are laughing at the supposed failures of Obamacare that have been in the news lately. Those ‘failures’ are actually desired.
I’m sorry, but it’s going to come down to violence, as much I wish there was a non-violent solution.
OUTLAWS!
Federal power will be moot in a few years at this rate.