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“You’re absolutely right, Billy: the best thing we can do to fight terrorism is outlaw poverty, transnational corporations, and wars —and convince people of the need to rise up against a sneaky neocon agenda that is bringing us closer to doomsday and demand we extricate ourselves from the affairs of Araby, even if that means rethinking our support of the Zionists, who have themselves terrorized the Palestinians for half a century.” | |
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“Right. But don’t forget the part where we teach the Muslims Kung-fu and snake handling. And the Hopi Indian vision quest ritual. After all, it’s that kind of attention to detail that sets my plan apart from the ineffectual crap, say, Michael Moore or Dennis Kucinich is peddling.”* |
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(h/t Colossus Blog)
BINGO!
Hilarious, Jeffrey.
The woman’s mother just had a stroke. But don’t let that stop your childish sarcasm.
STAND BACK, GANDHI! YOU HAVE JUST ENTERED THE CESSPOOL OF HATE!
Besides, what is this, like, Ramadan? CINDY! is a brand—a movement—complete with celebrities, and endorsements, and commercials. Just because the actual Cindy is off for a bit doesn’t mean there aren’t people down at Crawford pitching a fit and getting their message out in her name.
Billy Who?
Damn, gandhi must be watching you pretty close Jeff. I mean first post on a Saturday?
Sometimes, Jeff just goes beserk!
The woman’s mother just had a stroke. But don’t let that stop your childish sarcasm.
Yeah, that’s right, Einstein. Because since her mother had a stroke, just like since her son died in Iraq, it follows logically that no one can criticize her, or even quote her lunatic ravings. How the fuck do you get across the street by yourself? I hope you still live with your mother, because I’m sure you can’t dress yourself. Why don’t you leave your name and address, so everyone can pitch in to buy you a nice silver-plated drool cup?
Will you please ban that asshole, Jeff? First it was amusing, then it became pathetic, now it’s just annoying. Really, really annoying. I think you’ve put up with it more than enough to deflect the “But you’re stifling dissent” bullshit.
Well, choosing to call oneself ghandi would seem to say something, wouldn’t it? Personally, I figure this is because he/she wears diapers and drinks her/his own urine, but I suppose it could just be that he/she is an irritating twit.
Turing: side, as in, “I’ll take a side of tallow cooked french fries with that QuarterPounder (TM)” said ghandi.
On the plus side, he did manage to leave a comment without resorting to any anti-semitic bullshit.
THE HEALING HAS BEGUN!!!
He gandhi?
What is your opnion of your namesakes advice to the British and Jews at the start of World War II?
“In 1940, when Hitler was scoring victory after victory throughout Europe, Gandhi addressed the following advice to the soldiers of Great Britain: “I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions…. If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them.”
“Two years earlier, in the months before World War II began, Gandhi reacted to the outrage of the Nazi-inspired Kristalnacht (the national pogrom of November 9 to 10, 1938) by offering the following advice to German Jews for overcoming Nazi anti-Semitism: “I am as certain as I am dictating these words that the stoniest German heart will melt [if only the Jews] … adopt active nonviolence. Human nature … unfailingly responds to the advances of love. I do not despair of his [Hitler’s] responding to human suffering even though caused by him.”
LOL why don’t you and the rest of your crowd go to Sudan, they could use some Human Shields there and the process would improve the gene pool
PS even Hitler and Stalin had mothers.
Can a woman ask for a better pinch hitter than Billy Jack? I don’t think so. I mean there are 70s tough guys she could call on—Buford Pusser, Charles Bronson—but nothing says gravitas and moral clarity like that hatband.
SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER BILLY!
So gandi, are we insensitive for making fun of sheehan because her mom had a stroke (I assume this is the same mom that has disowned her) or are we insensitive jerks for not even mentioning that her mom had a stroke?
Wasn’t there a character named “Cindy” in the Billy Jack movie?
Hey cowards-
Casey Sheehan was a man. You are pussies.
Put up or shut up.
1-800-GO-ARMY
*looks around*
There are cowards here?
Why should we bother joining up? I mean, according to Casey’s mom, this country isn’t worth fighting for, right?
My cat has a ingrown toenail, so I am the overriding moral authority on sore pussies, and I say that gandhi and patton need to STFU!!!
tw: peace, lol, good thing I ain’t superstitious
Damn. Just damn. Rock on, dude.
“Patton” wrote:
“Hey cowards-
Casey Sheehan was a man. You are pussies.
Put up or shut up.
1-800-GO-ARMY”
Actually, “Patton,” I decided to simply walk into the recruiter’s office, rather than call the number. This was back in 2003, after having served previously and gotten out in 2000. I was assigned to the 1st Cavalry Division, and later deployed to Iraq. Irony of ironies, Casey Sheehan’s battery (C 1/82) was attached to my battalion. The day he died fighting (4 April 2004), I and my men were in the same boat he was, rolling into the city, surrounded by hostiles. We watched a lot of our guys get hit, but we killed a lot more of them (on the order of 100-200 for every one they got of ours). We were outnumbered, in a strange place (we’d only been there a week), and tasting battle for the first time…yet we still prevailed. Sadly, Casey and six other great Americans didn’t make it back that day.
The other six were: SGT Eddie Chen, SPC Israel Garza, CPL Forest Jostes, SPC Stephen Hiller, SPC Robert Arsiaga, and SPC Ahmed Cason.
One of the hardest hit units was C Battery, 1/82 Field Artilley, Casey’s unit. They were ill-equipped and relatively undertrained for close fighting. No one ordered them to go out into Sadr City. They did anyway, including Casey, because they had comrades that needed help.
His mother’s antics are regrettable and unproductive. That’s all I’ll say about her, but I’m not quite done yet.
“Patton,” you call the other commenters in here “cowards” for not joining. Hmm, how civilian of you. I’ve never met any currently serving military man who feels that way. We soldiers do our jobs, do them damn well, and do them willingly. We appreciate when someone supports our efforts, even if it’s just a blog comment here and there. Who in hell are you to come in here and fling your “chickenhawk” bullshit around?
Unless you are the re-animated corpse of General Patton himself, you can take your accusations of cowardice and shove them deeply into your own ass. I’ve killed better men than you. Literally. Now go fuck yourself.
And again. FC, thank you for everything.
No reason to thank me, Howard, just doing my job. Just make sure you keep paying your taxes so I don’t run out of bullets next year when I go back over!
I greatly appreciate it also, and I pay my taxes and then some.
File closer, we salute you.
Thanks
I’ll add my thanks and a salute for FC as well.
As for “Patton,” he might want to consider the irony of using a pseudonym to call people cowards.
FC, thanks for your service. I will do my best to pay lots of taxes so you have lots of bullets.
I wish you well and Godspeed you safely through your service.
McGhee, if those twits had any sense of irony, they would go catatonic with sensory overload.
*Salutes FC*
Kick some butt in the name of the Zionist conspiracy, my friend.
Man, I cannot even parody moonbats these days. They’re like… rock bottom. What I just said sounds NORMAL for them!
Thanks for all the kind words everbody.
I apologize if I came off a bit overwrought in my long post above, but I can’t stand the “chickenhawk” smear. It’s utterly childish, especially in the way it is usually delivered, that is, in a snarky, “this’ll shut them up” tone.
FC
Overwrought is not the term that would occur to me. You set just the right tone and I, for one, was proud of you.
The “Mother Sheehans” of this world and the slingers of the “chickenhawk” slurs need to be bitch slapped every so often. You did that well … and eloquently.
Congratulations
Since this country “is not worth fighting for” and the troops should be withdrawn, I suggest patton go join the jihadis/terrorists in Iraq if he’s not just all mouth and no brain. I’m relatively sure filecloser and his friends would prepare a warm welcome.
TW: where, as in “put your fat mouth where you (small amount of)money is, patton.”
And isn’t it strange how the trolls pick such totally inappropriate names?
Can we just buy you the bullets instead? (I’m not really sure I trust those politicians not to build themselves a new Robert C. Byrd Memorial Sexually Transmitted Diseases Center instead…)
Very funny stuff!
I still remember the scene in Billy Jack where the guy with the Corvette cuts the girls bra and her giant titties are unleashed. Wow, TITTIES!! I was either 11 or 12 years old and it made quite an impression on me.
Of course, then Billy makes the guy drive his vette into the lake. what a waste even if the guy was a rich prick.
I am thinking over the anti-Semitic slurs some more.
Jeff, do you want to go in on an Israeli concession stand for Crawford? You would of course get half of the profit and have the opportunity to put out a jar for the local Jewish charity of your choice. I would encourage people to give to Block Yeshiva High School.
DovBear is still funnier than you.
The stand would be closed for Shabbos of course.
Of course, then Billy makes the guy drive his vette into the lake. what a waste even if the guy was a rich prick.
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GASP! Just THINK what that contamination did to the lakes ECO-SYSTEM!
He should have spent all the time since that film was shot in court facing the EPA and all the other Fed State, Local and NGOs wanting a piece of his hide.
This is a riot. The True Believers here attack Sheehan for fake quotes, and then impugn the intelligence of others. If you must attack the mother of a dead soldier, attack her real statements, not phony quotes and lies about her.
The anti-Semitism attacks on Sheehan are really beneath you guys. The logic is that being opposed to any Israeli policy is anti-Semitic. It is as idiotic as accusing you of being anti-Semitic for supporting the Iraq war. Arabs are Semites, therefore your support of the war is anti-Semitic. Intentionally stupid and beneath contempt.
File Closer: I don’t understand what you mean by: “I’ve never met any currently serving military man who feels that way.†Are you saying that you don’t think your fellow commenters at proteen wisdom would make capable soldiers, so incompetent that you would prefer they safely make blog comments rather than join the Army? I don’t understand your anger at someone who points out the rank hypocrisy of those who “support†the war through attacks on Gold Star Moms (Sheehan is not alone in Crawford) while leaving the fighting to men like you. I won’t even mention their unquestioning support for an Administration that regularly screws the troops and their families. You don’t attack Casey Sheehan’s mother in the despicable way of the other comments, which says a fair amount about you, but don’t you think she should be the one who determines how she mourns her son? You may have satisfied yourself that this war is worth her son’s life, but she hasn’t. Doesn’t the leader of our democratic republic have the responsibility to simply and honestly state why we went to this war, why we are still there, and when will we leave? Bush’s hiding behind 9/11 isn’t sufficient. As far as her “antics†being regrettable and unproductive, the hysterical reactions around the pro-death blogosphere pretty much belies that notion.
So how will meeting with the President – AGAIN – help her resolve these issues? Or is it nothing more than an obvious ploy to attack the President for some political victory in favor of an agenda with which her son – the REAL hero – obviously disagreed?
And why should Casey’s mother’s POV on the war somehow outweigh those hundreds of others who have also lost a son, yet don’t feel the need to destroy that which their son or daughter laid down their life trying to protect and defend?
In short, if Casey felt strongly enough about this issue to knowingly and willingly volunteer for that risk, THAT is what I honor, not the crocodile tears of a woman who would have gladly run over her own son “or take him away to Canada” (as though that would have protected him from volunteering) to oppose the efforts of a man she hates running a country she doesn’t support.
TW: “more”. Need I say it?
Hey Golden –
What File Closer said about Mother Sheehan was:
And they are, for they do not honor her son’s sacrifice, only her personal agenda.
There are more service members on this board than you realize, from a lot of different branches and with different experiences in both peacetime and war. I thought what FileCloser had to say was both eloquent and concise – we’re doing our job, we’re making the sacrifice. Let me echo his parting comment and apply it to you:
Now then – wasn’t that nice? Have a good day.
“The logic is that being opposed to any Israeli policy is anti-Semitic. “
Indeed.
So answer this fascist neocons: HOW IS BLAMING THE JEWS FOR RUNNING THE WORLD AND ALL EVIL ANTI-SEMETIC??? Sorry, but calling the Jews evil is not anti-semetism, despite what you jewlovers think.
You neocons are idiots!!!!
Hey Jim “Silence is” Golden, are you or any of your family out there in that bunker with Cindy? If you aren’t willing to risk sunstroke or heat exhaustion, getting runover by some crazed redneck’s pickup, or assassinated by a neocon hit squad, then what right to you have to send Cindy out there?
Chickendove you people disgust me.
Oh, imagine that. A charge the we haven’t answered Cindy’s questions, but are instead interested only in “smearing her.” Gee, who could’ve anticipated that.
As for the idea that Cindy Sheehan’s been tarred with the anti-Semite brush because “any Israeli policy is anti-Semitic,” well no, not exactly. She’s being presented that way because she believes the US is Israel’s puppet, and that the “neocons” have Israel’s interest more in mind that the interests of the US. Further, she’s called for “Israel out of Palestine,” which is precisely what Hamas, for instance, is calling for: the dissolution of the Jewish State.
In short: faux outrage, mischaracterizing arguments, and emotionalism—which is all your comment offers—ain’t gonna cut it here.
Doesn’t the leader of our democratic republic have the responsibility to simply and honestly state why we went to this war, why we are still there, and when will we leave?
Yes, which he has done too many times to count. Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean you haven’t been given one.
Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
That mantra will be familiar to anyone who has taken small children on a road trip.
Notice the resemblence to the other side of the political fence?
I decided the pardigm of the Left as whiny kids in the back seat of a car on a long trip sniveling
Are we there yet was too funny not to make an entire blog post on,
http://www.angelfire.com/ky/kentuckydan/CommitteesofCorrespondence/index.blog?entry_id=1070506
FC,
My son will be going into basic about the middle of next month.
My hope is that there are men like you out there to cover his back.
And that he becomes the man that you would want to cover yours.
Thanks for your service.
-N. O’Brain
“CINDY IS THE MOTHER MARY” couldn’t have made the point of everyone here any better if she tried, nor could she undermine her own position. It’s possible that she’s ACTUALLY referring to the fact that Arabs are Semites as well, but I doubt it.
Reading her post, I don’t think she’s much for intelligence despite her accusation of stupidity aimed at others. It seems, and I hope this is true, that the far-left is starting to lose some traction. I don’t think Camp Sheehan is working as well as they liked. That and the ongoing issue that the wingnuts KEEP TALKING. It can’t help when everyone sees that you’re a whacko…
Cindy Sheehan has responded to President Bush’s comments concerning meeting her and has posted her response in The huffington Post. The first statement Cindy Sheehan makes that comes off as anti-democratic is this one and I quote Cindy Sheehan- “ Does anyone else know what “democratic” means? It simply means majority rule. Not some high-minded, free-floating, pie in the sky ideal. It means 50 percent plus one.” Cindy Sheehen in that particular statement actually attacks 51 % majority rule as a bad form of government and if you can read anything else into that, defending that statement, please make your comment at the end of this post. I would like to say to Cindy Sheehan that 50 plus one is much better then Saddam’s 1 % plus brutal totalitarian rule in which the 1% Saddam, rules 99 % of the entire population. Maybe Sheehan has met with some socialist organizations that oppose democratic forms of government. I did notice that a socialist website called ‘Socialist Worker Online’ is running a rather large article advocating Sheehans position. Cindy Sheehan actually gave an interview to the Socialist Worker Online, she spoke to Socialist Worker’s ERIC RUDER which is mentioned at the beginning of the article. In her interview with the Socialist Worker Online she says and I quote “ Some people may think that we’re fighting terrorism over there. But when is that job ever going to be complete? Terrorism is just a new “ism.†It was “communism†when I was growing up.” Here Cindy Sheehan is discounting the validity of the threat of communism in the past as just a made up “ ism.” I believe history taught us that communism brutally oppressed and killed millions of innocent people and is still somewhat of a threat today in places like North Korea where millions have died from starvation due to KimYong II, brutal rule. Cindy Sheehan later went on to say and I quote “ I DEFINITELY think that we should support war resisters in the military”. I will leave that statement up to the readers interpretation, but it sounds to me to border on subversion and treason. Here is Cindy Sheehan’s interview with the Socialist Workers Online in its entirety http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-2/549/549_06_CindySheehan.shtml .
The next statement Cindy Sheehan makes is both inaccurate and untruthful and I quote
“This is the biggest smokescreen from him yet. I didn’t ask him to withdraw the troops, I asked him what Noble Cause did Casey die for.” Actually Cindy Sheehen didn’t ask Bush, she demanded that he “bring the troops home now”, here is a quote from her statement made on August 18 2005 and carried by ABC News “”If George Bush comes out here today or if we leave here at the end of August, this is only the beginning, and we’re not going to stop until our troops are brought home”, I would suggest that means a withdrawal what would you think it means? Also in this ABC article written by Eric Noe it is stated “ In addition to requesting a meeting with Bush, Sheehan is now calling for an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. She promised to send a similar message if the president agrees to meet with her.” Here is the complete article you be the judge http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1045556&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312 . Is ABC lying, did they just make that up? I have myself watched Cindy Sheehan on national television say time and time again “bring our troops home now” but she has stated that she has never intended to ask Bush that question. I smell another lie. Whats really strange is in Cindys own article she just released today she says this and I quote “ Then bring our troops home. The status quo in Iraq is awful”, if you ask me she cant even get through one article without contradicting herself. She goes on to imply that America is spreading “imperialism “ by what she says is 14 permanent bases being set up in Iraq the size of Sacramento, California. I dont know if there is any United States military bases on the entire planet Earth the size of a large U.S. city,if there is please let me know ok. By the way the interview Cindy Sheehan gave to the Socialist Worker is the same Socialist worker who ran this article entitled “ The Meaning of Marxism” in which they praise Marxism to no end. Here is the link to that garbage http://www.socialistworker.org/Featured/MeaningOfMarxism.shtml