Judith Grossman’s son hauled before ivy bush league kangaroo court
My son was given written notice of the charges against him, in the form of a letter from the campus Title IX officer. But instead of affording him the right to be fully informed, the separately listed allegations were a barrage of vague statements, rendering any defense virtually impossible. The letter lacked even the most basic information about the acts alleged to have happened years before. Nor were the allegations supported by any evidence other than the word of the ex-girlfriend.
The hearing itself was a two-hour ordeal of unabated grilling by the school’s committee, during which, my son later reported, he was expressly denied his request to be represented by counsel or even to have an attorney outside the door of the room. The questioning, he said, ran far afield even from the vaguely stated allegations contained in the so-called notice. Questions from the distant past, even about unrelated matters, were flung at him with no opportunity for him to give thoughtful answers.
The many pages of written documentation that my son had put together—which were directly on point about his relationship with his accuser during the time period of his alleged wrongful conduct—were dismissed as somehow not relevant. What was relevant, however, according to the committee, was the unsworn testimony of “witnesses” deemed to have observable knowledge about the long-ago relationship between my son and his accuser.
That the recollections of these young people (made under intense peer pressure and with none of the safeguards consistent with fundamental fairness) were relevant—while records of the accuser’s email and social media postings were not—made a mockery of the very term. While my son was instructed by the committee not to “discuss this matter” with any potential witnesses, these witnesses against him were not identified to him, nor was he allowed to confront or question either them or his accuser.
Grossman was able to obtain the help of FIRE. Hopefully, she will re-examine feminism and eschew a label which is now a wholly-owned subsidiary of The Left, where things like due-process and justice hold no value.
I suppose I should feel sorry for her, but I don’t. Until the state of affairs created by her progressive feminist desires caused her own son grief, I doubt she cared at all about the thousands of other boys trapped in similar situations.
Worse, women like her never, ever consider that the feminist academic police states they want so badly might have unintended consequences. How could they? Their intentions are so good.
How come progressive intentions are so sacrosanct, but the intentions of conservative texts are entirely beside the point?
Feminism is Stalinism.
– All it will take is one good tort against any of these femofascist ivy league Leftist crap-factories, and this sort of bigotry masquerading as social activism will vanish.
– He should sue the hell out of every single person that took part in this travesty, most prominently the ex GF, the school admin that condoned this, and all that took part in the “panel”. Any school/feminist publication that mis-reported/represented this scam should also get nailed.
Theodicy, dualism and gnosticism.
she’s right you have to lawyer the fuck up
Some pundit (Kathleen Parker??) once fretted about all these feminists who had the misfortune of birthing sons. Wanted to know if they realized the environment they were advocating was in fact very hostile to the “wrong” gender.
I wonder what would have happened if he’d brought his lawyer in anyway, with the warning that if any action is taken against him inconsistent with due process the university would face serious legal action.
“I’m going to have my lawyer here for this, because you damn well better have your lawyer here for this.”
In a situation like that you refuse to answer any questions, and get an attorney. The University has no standing to do what they did.
it’s ludicrously and unforgivably cowardly of either judy or the wall street journal not to name the fascist little college what tried to rape the shit out of her son
people need to know what goes on there
Seems to me she’s covering more than the College’s ass. The whole business lacks detail in order to hide her shames, as vague or disordered as they may be.
The whole WSJ piece is so vague that I can only suspect a non-disclosure agreement of some sort is in place.
Either that, or Judy Grossman’s baby boy would never, ever, ever use tequila to gain an advantage over a defenseless damsel.
They get away with shit like this by categorizing it as administrative rather than legal — but as far as I’m concerned a tuition-paying student has a contract that the university needs cause to breach, and if I demand they show cause they’d damn well better be prepared to do so.
And any contract that requires one party to waive legal due process is void on its face.
it’s ludicrously and unforgivably cowardly of either judy or the wall street journal not to name the fascist little college what tried to rape the shit out of her son
people need to know what goes on there
Perhaps the WSJ’s style of obscuring illegal alien issues also affects how they cover this issue, namely, by obscuring it.
That said, I take a special pleasure in writing “FUCK OFF” on solicitations I get from my alma mater, and mailing them back in the business reply mail envelopes.
Never go out with a feminist —seems to be one of the morals of the story.
Never go out with a feminist —seems to be one of the morals of the story.
And the university does its best to brainwash every co-ed into being a femi(commu)nist.
They get away with shit like this by categorizing it as administrative rather than legal
That and probably the notion that they can, for the most part, bully students. I remember graduating at 22 years old, and going back at 26. I found that after a few years of paying bills, my tolerance for nonsense was zero and I was a whole more comfortable saying, “Yeah, I’m not going to do that.” Professors and administrators tended to become nonplussed with any sort of challenge. Of course, I was never invited to some star chamber to discuss sexual assault “charges” against me, but I would hope to have had enough wits to let them know I would be retaining legal counsel.
“- All it will take is one good tort against any of these femofascist ivy league Leftist crap-factories, and this sort of bigotry masquerading as social activism will vanish.”
I’m all for fighting Left-Lawfare with Right-Lawfare, but these scum are sadly well-entrenched.
I agree with happyfeet (*gasp!) – names should have been named.
It would be mildly interesting to see if she changes her mind (and actions) after finding out that karma really is a bitch.
Of course not, Scott. This one a one-off and her darling boy is okay now, so keep calm and carry on, as they say.
Of course not, Scott. This one a one-off and her darling boy is okay now, so keep calm and carry on, as they say.
Well, the whole “neo-con” movement–former leftists who got mugged by reality–indicates otherwise. People wising up is always a good thing.
Trouble is, a lot of neo-cons have reverted.
Either that, or Judy Grossman’s baby boy would never, ever, ever use tequila to gain an advantage over a defenseless damsel.
Debunking the Big Lie of Feminism. We are told that young ladies can drink, cuss, want to “score” sexually, and even fight just like young men.
And yet, when something like this happens, suddenly they are helpless damsels.
Trouble is, a lot of neo-cons have reverted.
Some don’t wise up fast enough, some are just starting to wise up. That said, I’d rather lay out the welcome mat to former leftists rather than slam the door on them. Uncle Ron was a former leftist too, after all.
I think we can add Irony to the list of things that feminist lawyers are blind to.
Doctors tend to be closet leftists. I’m keeping a weather eye on Rand Paul for that very reason.
Doctors tend to be closet leftists. I’m keeping a weather eye on Rand Paul for that very reason.
What did/do you think of his daddy?
He was a former liberal. There’s a difference.
He was a former liberal. There’s a difference.
How much of one? The New Deal, upon which Uncle Ron’s generation was marinated, was chock full of Communist moles.
Ron Paul? Not my cuppa. Too isolationist. Too suspicious of our Jewish friends. Gold bug.
When he sticks to Federalism, he’s cool. Anything else and he goes off the reservation.
Rand Paul is not Ron Paul. Not by a long shot.
Ron Paul? Not my cuppa. Too isolationist. Too suspicious of our Jewish friends. Gold bug.
When he sticks to Federalism, he’s cool. Anything else and he goes off the reservation.
Well said, although after watching our hard earned dollars get “quantitatively eased”, I think the gold bugs are correct.
Have you seen the precious metals markets in the last month? The bottom is falling out of that market, even silver is lagging since there are some new silicon compounds in the works to replace silver in the making of circuit boards. If you are interested in putting money into precious metals, you are better off buying solid metal jewelry and minted coins, not sandwich coins, either. Cut gem stones, loose or set are also a good investment. Make sure you know your seller and have a buyer in mind if you need to turn them over.
If he’d been a committed New Deal leftist he never would have been able to say “the Democratic Party left me.” It was New Deal leftism that sent the party away from him, and he was well shut of it already by the time of LBJ’s “Great Society.”
Remember, Reagan was already 21 when FDR was elected. It was mainly people born later than him — like my father, born 1924 — that really bought into the New Deal and its successors.
Have you seen the precious metals markets in the last month? The bottom is falling out of that market,
I have, and like the stock market reaching new (nominal) highs, I think it is a Sucker’s Rally. 14,000 on the Dow today does not mean anything like 14,000 on the Dow would have meant in 2007, given devalued dollars. After all, there was a Sucker’s Rally in 1977-78. The underlying Owebamunist Oweministration policies have not changed.
As for coins, I have a little bit of “junk silver” (pre-1965 US Coins) and a little bit of gold bullion, but that is it.
True that, McGehee. My grandparents, born in the 1910s, never thought much of FDR and my folks were born during the Depression. There was no love for FDR at our house.
The stock market is a mirage. I was teaching B School when the market cracked 10,000 and we were all “Woo Hoo!” until the tech bubble popped. Followed by the housing bubble. Followed by Algore rescinding his victory congratulations to GWB. Followed by the nail-biting recount, the Inauguration and the next thing we knew: 9/11.
Man, that was a sucky time.
The realistic set-point for the market is around 6000-7500, the upper number being optimistic. Right now, the world money market is like a giant Jenga game that is starting to wobble badly.
The only reason the stock market is doing “well” is because the little god-king and the rest of the Washington mob are propping it up with “stimulus” (read: putting money on your credit card and giving it to Wall Street) and “quantitative easing” (read: printing money and giving it to Wall Street).
Yep. A Sucker’s Rally. The only upside to all of this is that real estate has rebounded (at least in nominal terms) and some of us who could not refinance our mortgages now can. Strike while the iorn is hot. Sooner or later, interest rates are going to have to skyrocket.
I’d still rather have my money in equities that are being propped up than in cash that’s being watered down. Still think whisky and ammo are the only real stores of value any more.
Guns and butter, we used to call it.
Chez leigh is paid for. That doesn’t mean our property taxes don’t continue to be reassessed. My fooking insurance nearly trebled last year.
Spies, absolutely right about the QE and Barry and Company meddling in the markets both here and abroad. I’m sorry to say I have been having a bit of a go round with my priest about the sequester and Obama’s fecklessness. He’s a lefty, like nearly every priest I’ve ever known, and is using the usual lefty arguments. I don’t want to deck him on FB, so I’m being nice and pointing out that he’s wrong, wrong, wrong in a nice way, of course.
“I’d still rather have my money in equities that are being propped up”
That might work until they run out of proppant, which I’m afraid is going to happen sooner than anyone realizes.
Someone can always move the props or kick them over.
So that’s why the government is buying so much of it (ammo I mean).
As for the whisky, I sure hope this doesn’t mean we have to denounce Washington as a former day Lincoln.
I think the market is overbought because there is no place left for institutions to put their money in an attempt to make more money. You cannot earn money in interest. All the credit default swaps that can be sold have been sold, and those are so leveraged that when they come due the whole system will collapse. Commodities are all that are left, and they aren’t liquid enough once delivery is taken to be a standard institutional investment vehicle.
The first ones out will be relatively okay, everyone else will be screwed. At first, anyway. Once cash takes a nose dive everyone will get to suffer.
Guns, bullets, and whiskey are good choices for the average citizen to save wealth.
Personally, it’s too bad her son didn’t get kicked out of school and his potential career ruined as I don’t think she fully has got the point yet.
I wish she could have born the punishment but her immediate family will do.
Her and her ilk blithely have parceled out this bologna for years and now, NOW that it’s going to affect HER family, NOW she’s upset.
Bet she’ll still vote Democrat.
Gee, thanks Mom.
I feel sorry for the kid.
As for Mom, if she can show her public statements in support of the Duke lacrosse players, then I’ll feel sorry for her.
Anyone care to bet against me when I say they don’t exist?
I’ll take exactly none of that action.