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“Ryan: No Civil War in GOP”

protein wisdom:  “‘the fuck?  Did you like, miss the ‘autopsy’ report put out by the Bushies for the Bushies that counsels Republicans to embrace the Bushies — and in so doing, ditch the hateful racist misogynistic homophobic nativism (and Asian animus) that for too long has passed for conservative “principle”?   Did you miss the call to eschew the  fringe extremist constitutionalists and fetishizers of small government in order better to cozy up to the electoral wonders of pragmatic pandering and identity-bloc coalition building?

Look, Paul:  Many of us tried hard to believe that you were a true TEA Party representative — this, despite your earlier votes for TARP and your frequent capitulations to a House leadership bent on capitulating to the President and the Democrats; but the truth is, though you may personally stand for conservative principles (and I believe you do), when push comes to shove, you first loyalty is to Party and politics.  That is, to the game and the positioning and the posturing.  And that’s a shame.

So we will move on without you.  And likely, what remains of your Party.  Which of course is in just fine shape, and isn’t undergoing any kind of civil war.

(h/t sdferr)

 

 

 

36 Replies to ““Ryan: No Civil War in GOP””

  1. sdferr says:

    Geoffb’s link to the “sign-up” scene in Blazing Saddles in another thread this morning serves to remind us of the beautiful humor potentially inherent in stereotyping, stereotyping once possible, now impossible, thanks to political correctness. Save, we note, where and when stereotyping anything or anyone remotely connected with Conservatism or the American Founding and Framing. What a marvel of success has Gramsci’s plan become! And the deed done with the willing help of those against whom it acts! Fantastic.

  2. happyfeet says:

    the only way to win is not to play

  3. mojo says:

    He wants to get the Old Bulls aboard. He doesn’t seem to understand that they left the Con train a long time ago – it’s about power and money to them, not principle.

    Screw ’em.

    BULL MOOSE!

  4. steveaz says:

    I’m thinking it was the pic of him pumping iron in a gym that ruined Ryan for me. He had John Edwards’ hair and John Kerry’s stiff posing. Should a fiscal hawk be so vain?

    Call me a LoFo-Voter, but Ryan seemed to be the most “fiscal” of the VP candidates in 2012, so I got on board with him. Same goes for Christie – he was Rumsfeldian when goin’ after public employees unions so I gave him “a hug,” too. But neither one’s standing today compares to the potential both exuded mere months ago.

    Silly me! Looks like I got suckered.

    To beat the Tea Party and keep the gravy flowing, urban Repub’s’ll have to run against tuberculosis-loving dairy-farmers, tax-protestors and “unreasonable” gun-owners. And they know they’ve got the Democrats on their side.

  5. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Mojo, you do realize that Bull Moose is exactly what the two Davids (Brooks and Frum), Bill and Fred want the Republican Party to become, right?

  6. mojo says:

    We need a man like Teddy Roosevelt again. Not a metro-sexual sissy with a harpy on his back.

    Fiscal sanity is required. The social con crap, meh. You want to go kill your offspring, ain’t no skin offa my nose. Just gives my kids more of a chance.

  7. sdferr says:

    Boy.”

    And the outflow therefrom.

  8. Ernst Schreiber says:

    We need a man like Teddy Roosevelt again.

    If you say so. Me? I think we need a man like Calvin Coolidge again. That National Greatness crap is expensive. You need a big intrusive government when you’re serious about seeing to it that the little people get a square deal. Fiscal insanity is likely to ensue.

  9. sdferr says:

    The last thing the polity needs is another Teddy Roosevelt though, since the nation hasn’t gotten over the damage Roosevelt introduced over a century ago, despite the intervention of a couple of gents who knew better what was the cure: Calvin Coolidge and Ronald Reagan.

  10. sdferr says:

    jinx

  11. Ernst Schreiber says:

    That’s not to say that I don’t admire Roosevelt the man. But in terms of our present political categories, Grover Cleveland was more conservative than TR.

  12. Ernst Schreiber says:

    heh. Missed it by that much, sdferr.

  13. leigh says:

    I just finished reading that article, sdferr. It rings true for most of the old cities on the East Coast and in the Rust Belt.

  14. cranky-d says:

    I had already crossed Ryan off of my list. However, he can still redeem himself if he sees the light some time down the road.

  15. He’s right, though. Nothing about this coming war will be civil.

  16. happyfeet says:

    they came for a war but they found a PARTY

    a Paul Ryan DANCE PARTY!!

    hands up party people lemme hear you say UNITY!!!

    lemme hear you say WIN!!!

    the roof the roof the roof is on fire

    it’s just like brazil

    except with pasty white people

  17. thedorsai says:

    So we will move on without you ??? we will ?

    did I miss it when YOU got elected to anything from which to LEAD us in this move …

    you fight with the folks you’ve got in position right now … you don’t stab them in the back over some BS differences …

  18. beemoe says:

    Teddy Roosevelt? The PR hack and posuer who started Progressivism?

    Yeah, that’s exactly what we need.

  19. leigh says:

    TR? No thank you.

    Coolidge? You betcha!

  20. Pablo says:

    you fight with the folks you’ve got in position right now … you don’t stab them in the back over some BS differences …

    That would be nice, but their leadership seems to have joined the other side. I’m not stabbing Boehner in the back. It’s the other way around. The problem with the GOP leadership is that they despise us.

  21. sdferr says:

    did I miss it when YOU got elected to anything from which to LEAD us in this move

    Possibly not, or possibly you missed that week in school when the concept of representation was covered, eh?

  22. Ernst Schreiber says:

    you fight with the folks you’ve got in position right now … you don’t stab them in the back over some BS differences …

    Tell that to O’Donnell, Akin, Palin etc.

    Also, since your demanding bona fides, please inform us as to why you’re entitled to tell us which differences are just bullshit and which are worthy of the long knives?

  23. you fight with the folks you’ve got in position right now

    For certain values of “fight.” Or maybe “with.”

  24. Squid says:

    I’m pretty sure Thed also preaches that a vote for None of the Above is just the same as a vote for Obama. Some people just aren’t cut out for nuance.

  25. mojo says:

    @beemoe: “Teddy Roosevelt? The PR hack and posuer who started Progressivism?”

    At the time, what we today call “progressivism” was actually needed. But too much of anything is toxic.

  26. mojo says:

    Ans somebody is gonna have to stomp on the public employee unions. Not gonna be a popular job, but it needs to happen.

    Think “one term ass-kicker”

  27. William says:

    They keep promising nuance, then pulling out sledgehammers.

    It’s a dumb age.

  28. leigh says:

    What better place to start stomping public employee unions than California where they began? Yes, Jerry Brown was the father of that bastard.

  29. palaeomerus says:

    “thedorsai says March 19, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    So we will move on without you ??? we will ?
    did I miss it when YOU got elected to anything from which to LEAD us in this move …
    you fight with the folks you’ve got in position right now … you don’t stab them in the back over some BS differences …”

    Fuck that stupid ‘unity and reconciliation after multiple betrayals’ shit. You want to cross a bridge after it was burned. Good luck with that. It’s not my fucking problem any more. I do not support the GOP any more because they don’t deserve it. They did that. And it is done. McCain -> slapping the base -> chopping down 2010-> Romney-> Surrender -> Rebranding for 2014 doesn’t cut it. Fuck this stupid zombie party.

  30. palaeomerus says:

    Dickson is one of my least favorite sci-fi writers too. Friendlies, alternate laws, soldier DNA and other bullshit. Bleah.

  31. leigh says:

    did I miss it when YOU got elected to anything from which to LEAD us in this move . . .

    The fuck? Since when must one be an elected official (past or present) to have an opinion as a citizen of these here United States as to how the ship of state should be governed?

    That’s a new one on me, anyway. I guess I missed it in middle school.

  32. SBP says:

    “you fight with the folks you’ve got in position right now ”

    I don’t have “any folks in position right now”. Rand Paul would be the closest, but that’s only by the very low hurdle of “still appears to believe in the Constitution”.

    If your “folks” suit you, then bully for you (<- T.R. reference).

    McCain was the last straw for me. Never again.

  33. LBascom says:

    What better place to start stomping public employee unions than California where they began? Yes, Jerry Brown was the father of that bastard.

    No, Brown indeed advanced the ball down field in California, but it was JFK that made public unions legal.

  34. leigh says:

    I stand corrected.

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