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A special ops buddy reacts to Feinstein’s characterization of former military and gun rights

From an email, in response to this story:

I'm going to make an awesome new TV show, let's call it "Explosion Extravaganza".  I'm going to get a bunch of men, and some women if they wish, in the 18-25 age bracket, and lock them up inside a new reality show.  Please disregard that this age bracket has been shown to be particularly poor decision makers, and one of the most difficult-to-insure (or expensive-to-insure) segments of the population.  I'm going to give them weapons galore... machine guns, grenades, land mines, anti-armor rockets and missiles, maybe even tanks.  Then we're going to run them through a bunch of "missions" where they have to shoot at things and blow stuff up.

I'm sure people would think I'm crazy.  This kind of thing is probably completely unfathomable to people like Feinstein, who thinks that just about everyone is incompetent.  But obviously I'm aiming my show at what is arguably the least competent and most reckless demographic.

Now comes the surprise.  Such a thing already exists.  They call it the Army, or the Marine Corps if you like that better.  So now the question is, "If we can take the most dangerous part of the population, and give them unimaginable access to the most deadly 'Weapons of War" that money can buy, why doesn't everyone in the Armed Forces just kill each other off every few days?  What's different here?".

You could have a lengthy debate about the differences, but I think it really only boils down to a couple.  Strong leadership and discipline, and training.  There's little you can do to instill strong leadership and discipline into people's (civilian's) everyday lives.  But that's only part of the equation.  The training is a huge factor.  The training a soldier gets, while some of the best of all militaries in the world, is still watered down by the fact they have to get dozens, or hundreds, of soldiers through it.  While it looks like epic "weeks" of constant training on paper, it probably only manifests in "hours" in reality for a single person.  In Basic Training, a recruit will spend weeks going to the range, 8-10 hours a day, during the Basic Rifle Marksmanship phase, and ultimately get to shoot one or two 15-minute sessions per day.  The point being, that a civilian can acquire this level of training and familiarization very easily in an efficient civilian setting.

I realize that gun control supporters probably don't want to hear more pragmatic "reality check" examples of why their theories are flawed.  But if myself and my squad-mates managed to survive the fact that we were all loaded down with machine guns, grenade launchers, rockets, landmines, and other assorted awesome toys, during the most wild and irresponsible years of our lives, it would seem that the claims that law-abiding citizens are going to be hurting people at every opportunity if we don't take away these dangerous guns and accessories from them, is sorely missing some good root-cause analysis.

This is part of the reason I thought it was important for me to open a training school.  Give people all the training they can handle.  Make the training thorough, realistic, useful, and most of all safe.  Teach people to be comfortable and responsible with tools that can be dangerous if used improperly, and life-saving if used properly.

42 Replies to “A special ops buddy reacts to Feinstein’s characterization of former military and gun rights”

  1. sdferr says:

    My reaction to Sen. Mrs. Feinstein’s view of the prevalence of post-traumatic-stress-disorder in veterans was “Wow! Sheesh! It sounds as though Sen. Mrs. Feinstein seeks to warn all potential entrants into military service that they’re potentially doing themselves the worst of a disastrous decision to join up: practically dooming themselves to a worse life than to an enriched and ennobled one — and that hence, should these otherwise honorable and patriotic young people take her advice to heart, we’ll soon have either no pool of military volunteers at all, or perhaps only a pool composed of knaves and fools. Good going there, Sen. Mrs. Feinstein, if it’s conscription and enslavement to the State you’re after.”

  2. It goes back to the intended meaning of “well-regulated,” which was that the militia, consisting of the whole people, should already know how to handle weapons before their nation needed them.

    The existence of a standing army does not obviate this, and in the eyes of the Founders would only highlight the necessity.

  3. mojo says:

    In the parlance of the times, a “well-regulated watch” was one that kept good time.

  4. beemoe says:

    The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War…

    The problem in DC isn’t divisiveness, it is too much professional curtesy and politeness. Whenever anyone says anything this profoundly fucking stupid they need to be called on it and harassed out of office.

    We are so fucked.

  5. happyfeet says:

    you can tell this daffy hoo listens to way too much National Soros Radio with her weirdo PTSD obsession

    that’s totally a National Soros Radio thing

    that and performance-enhancing drugs are long-running obsessions

    some fascist foundation is paying them to obsess on it but they never tell you which one

  6. I’m pretty sure they were calling it PTSD before Iraq or even Kuwait. And before that it was shellshock. Veterans were being diagnosed with it by one name or another going back to the Middle Ages.

    But don’t tell DiFi she’s past middle age. Oy.

  7. scooter says:

    These are the same people who are comfortable sending 18-year-olds off to kill and die in some God-forsaken foreign land but won’t let them buy beer.

  8. leigh says:

    PTSD isn’t a phenomenon known only to soldiers. It can happen to anyone who has experienced a tremendous amount of stress.

    You heard it hear first so be prepared when the definition of PTSD is expanded to anyone who ever yelled at a classmate or a sibling in his youth.

  9. geoffb says:

    expanded to anyone who ever yelled at a classmate or a sibling in his youth

    And thus the ”
    Anger Management” classes proof to buy ammo.

    The left is a seamless whole if you step back and look at them overall. Little pieces that fit together into a tapestry of tyranny.

  10. cranky-d says:

    Little pieces that fit together into a tapestry of tyranny.

    That is quite poetic.

  11. Libby says:

    Feinstein let slip their true intentions: disarm those who pose the greatest danger to their tyranny. That a US Senator could paint the entire military, past and present, as crazy and incapable of possessing a gun is unfathomable. Well, unfathomable if she had said this prior to January 2009. Since then my shock meter has been worn out.

  12. Poetic indeed. I may post it on my blog, if cranky doesn’t beat me to it.

  13. I think I’ve given at least one telemarketer PTSD.

  14. sdferr says:

    Wow, the case Andy McCarthy, on the Levin show this last half-hour, is laying out on this Abu Gaith move by the ObaZma administration is solid as a rock sounding to me, and therefore creepy as all get out regarding the motives of the ObaZma people.

  15. beemoe says:

    If they are going to try him in civilian court that means they started the interogation with “you have the right to remain silent.”

    What more needs said?

  16. sdferr says:

    The more that needs saying McCarthy drew out as an analysis of the legal maneuvering going on, Bmoe. This appears in his view to be an end-run of the Congressional ban on bringing the Gitmo captives to trial in the U.S., by means of this Abu Gaith dude falling outside the stricture “Gitmo”, since he was brought in from Jordan, whereupon, says McCarthy, the lawyers for the Gitmo people will move their court to uphold an equal “due process” claim for their clients, pressing the court to treat KSM et al in the same court regime (i.e., Art. 3 courts and procedures) as this Abu Gaith guy. These are “steps”, as McCarthy seems to present, in the application of domestic judicial procedures to the laws of war, or the domesticization of warfighting that the ObaZma position demands.

  17. geoffb says:

    So it was Iran to Turkey to Jordan to NYC, a carom shot to blowup the world.

  18. fnord1 says:

    There comes a point when you reach a level of stupidity that it becomes a moral failing. DiFi passed that point long ago.

  19. Darleen says:

    In the meantime, CA continues to go to hell in a turbo-powered handbasket

  20. sdferr says:

    The ObaZma Co. has the keys to the liquor cabinet: they’re going to consume all they like and poison the rest, and ain’t nobody going to stop ’em.

  21. newrouter says:

    are there suicide jihadis in ny’s future?

  22. sdferr says:

    McCarthy’s segment, via TRS

  23. Danger says:

    I told you that DiFi was the poster child for term limits.

    How does somebody that couldn’t pass a sanity check get to propose one on others?

  24. sdferr says:

    And the Avs have it.

  25. Blake says:

    Darleen,

    Damn, that guys release was exactly as described to me by a local prison guard.

  26. Darleen says:

    Blake

    My clerk who does the AB109 unit and sees every petition is besides herself … she sees so many sex offenders on it and is like “WTF?”.

    We’ve watched our cases increase at an alarming rate as the state prisons just kick out people. — so many of them just immediately start back on the crap that got them into prison in the first place.

  27. geoffb says:

    Colorado Democrat backs/echos Feinstein.

    During Friday’s marathon gun control hearing in the Colorado Senate, Republican Sen. Kent Lambert offered an amendment to exempt active military members, veterans and their families from the gun magazine ban.

    Enter Sen. Mary Hodge, a disgraceful Dem who urged fellow lawmakers to oppose the exemption because “some of them come back with significant mental health problems.”

  28. geoffb says:

    I told you that DiFi was the poster child for term limits.

    Indeed.

  29. happyfeet says:

    we can have more than one poster child for that i think

    we could have a topps card series

  30. Blake says:

    Darleen, meanwhile, CA wants to disarm everyone.

  31. LBascom says:

    Blake, if I may, a small correction; meanwhile, CA wants to disarm everyone honest citizens.

  32. Merovign says:

    Yes, we have reached the point where severely mentally ill people (good old DiFi’s “legal to hunt humans” comment is chock-full of crazy) demand the authority to disarm you so you can’t say no to whatever they want to make you do.

    Say No.

  33. beemoe says:

    we can have more than one poster child for that i think

    we could have a topps card series

    That’s not a bad idea, ‘feets.

    Crazy Congress Critters Collector Cards!

    Or should you spell them all with K’s?

  34. happyfeet says:

    you should trademark that Mr. Moe

    definitely with the Ks

  35. geoffb says:

    Gun shows at the Cow Palace draw thousands of people, but a group of lawmakers and lawmen have set their sights on them and are now proposing a major change.

    Rudy Corpuz of United Playaz is a street activist who’s trying to stop the violence. He says stopping gun shows at the Cow Palace is a part of that effort.

    “The guns in the Cow Palace and the guns on the street kill,” he said.

    Rudy is missing a “t” in his name. A typo I’m sure.

  36. geoffb says:

    Drone “rules”, makes “US citizen” = “enemy combatant” in the laws of war and now this, killing the Military Commissions makes “enemy combatant” = “US citizen” in domestic legal proceedings.

    The evil proceeds apace.

  37. sdferr says:

    Scott Johnson: Abu Ghaith’s day in court

    This is deeply evil, this move by the ObaZma administration, evil on many levels and to many ends. They must be stopped.

  38. happyfeet says:

    well don’t expect new yorkers to stop them they’ve been beaten down into abject pussyhood

  39. Pablo says:

    United Playaz is committed to improving the lives of young people surviving in vulnerable environments, show high incidence of truancy and low academic performance, or have been involved in the juvenile justice system through direct service and community collaboration.

    There’s no mission statement like a completely incoherent mission statement.

    Youth have the right to be healthy, safe and not criminalized.

    Law abiding adults not so much.

  40. “Youth have the right to reap the consequences of their choices, whether good or bad — just like grown-ups.”

    FTFT.

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