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That’s it for me

Take it away, Doc.

68 Replies to “That’s it for me”

  1. maggiekatzen says:

    ummmm, i would swear there were other posts on here today.

  2. They must have been stolen.  There are some very sneaky post-thieves who snatch bits of blogosphere and put them in their virtual socks and underpants, much like Sandy Bergler.  Then they’re shredded.

  3. Carin says:

    Jeff … come back to us …

  4. Sweet. New URL and an X-Files reference.

  5. Hubris says:

    For serious?

  6. Jeff Goldstein says:

    X-Files Season 4 on DVD.  I need time.

  7. Hubris says:

    Understandable.  Blogmalaise is currently my sandwich spread of choice.

    Good luck and best wishes.  Catch ya on the flip side.

  8. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Well, at this point, the radio gig is most likely to suffer.  I’ll probably still post meditations on frozen heads in the freezer.

    Just saying.  Pick your poison.

  9. Hubris says:

    I like both very much, and would regret a retirement/hiatus; I just didn’t want to be a how-can-you-think-of-quitting-’cause-you-owe-me-something-for-some-reason person.

    I don’t know how you do the radio show, honestly; it takes more time, guts, and effort than I would have to spare.

  10. Carin says:

    I’m just saying, but today’s show seemed to flow much better.  I’m just finishing up listening, and it was really interesting today.  But, you know, there is also “X-files.”

    The truth is out there.

  11. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Personally?  I liked today’s show.  Upset that we never got to the Canada-bashing, but we fell behind and wanted to treat the subject with respect, first and foremost.

    But my partner is upset with the show.  We’ll see if we can work it out.

  12. Hubris says:

    More so than an albatross, I tend to see you as a brave little English boy who flies away with the wings of a swan, thereby defying his brutish tormentors and remaining unconquerable.  But then, I tend to convert everything to Dahl short stories.

  13. Rightwingsparkle says:

    OMG!! How could you stand him for as long as you have????

    I know I risk the “wrath” of Mr. Bill when I say that I have never known anyone with such delusions about oneself. He is what is known and will always be known as a wannabe.

    And that, dear folks, is as mean as I get. You don’t want to know what I really think.

    Oh geeze Jeff, You gonna let THAT jerk keep you from writing here?

    That is just WRONG.

  14. BLT in CO says:

    I thought both Ed and Kate were wonderful guests.  And you and Bill came across as much more interested, though less outright funny, than previous shows.  Maybe that’s a bad thing, depending on what you were going for…?  Dunno.  Though it was just fine, though.  You asked good questions and let your guests talk and explain their answers.

    My haypenny worth of blather

  15. BumperStickerist says:

    Bill’s genius cannot be denied,

    it also can’t be ascertained.

    Personally, I think each of you should get a vanity segment.  A 2-3 minute section of time where you can do a short take on something in your field of expertise, Bill can do the same.

    Jeff tossing in something cinema related would be nice – especially if it were somehow amusing.  Bill “Dead Air” Ardolino could do something in his realm of expertise as well.

    Each would have something to prepare for the show with the knowledge that two dozen or so people will hear it.  Each would just STFU while the other was doing his segment.

    I’m no hot shot internet radio producer, but I did use a high speed connection at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

  16. Ray Midge says:

    I’m agreeing with BLT.  Liked it.  If that was ‘bad,’ then I’m not sure what you guys are aiming for.  Is it some totally new kinda radio format?  What?  Some version of funny ‘bits’ interrupted up by blogger guests?  No.  Interesting guests asked interesting questions (with funny thrown in where it presents itself) is a pretty good format.  Maybe the worst you can say is that it’s been (and being) done.  That the quality of your show will depend, in large part, on the quality of your guests, the topic in the news.  So what.  If it works, it works.  Anyway, I liked the show today. 

    Another thing – not as charitable (but not an attack).  Still don’t think you’re giving the reaction to Michelle its due.  It’s not that those upset simply have a bad sense of humor, it’s that it wasn’t funny or, at least, Michelle’s reaction wasn’t.  What I mean there is that, though the Q’s posed to her not-quite-understanding-athiesm were funny, her reaction, in and of itself, wasn’t.  More of a shocking, real emotion suddenly errupting, car crash, great radio (if genuine) moment. 

    Betty White, provoked into a string of profanities by Letterman/Leno is funny.  Why?  It’s Betty White.  We know her.  Sweet old lady losing her shit, swearing?  Comedy gold.  Most/many don’t know Michelle’s personality or read her.  Maybe she IS one of those brittle people who just don’t understand irony, actually mistakes ribbing/funny Q’s for attacks.  Those kinda people DO snap, (especially ones with a heavy NY accent and sound uninclined to take anyone’s shit.)

    Anyway, I heard it and it didn’t sound like something intended to be funny.  It, and your coy reactions afterward, resulted in it seeming more like something intended to be a controversy genertaing hoax (in the grand and harmless tradition of publicity generating radio hoaxs).  So, it wasn’t that people don’t have a sense of humor, it’s that some people don’t like getting taken in by hoaxes.

    Just my take on the Michelle thing.  Overall though, I like the shows.  Interesting topics addressed by smart people in a relaxed, un-’selfserious’ manner makes good radio.  Sorry for going long here.

  17. Jeff Goldstein says:

    I think your assessment of Catalano-gate is fair, Ray, but I’ll just say that it was much more Kaufman than slapstick—in that the we intended the performance to continue from radio world into blog world, given that our show is in someways acting as a deliverate bridge between the two.

    We meant to get more into that—and I asked Hawkins on to discuss it—but alas, time is precious on the radio, and asking Captain Ed for his nautical bona fides was more important to me today.

  18. Attila Girl says:

    (Wrote a long comment here, but forgot to re-enter my name and whatnot, so my brilliant reply is lost to the ages. Curses!)

    Re: Michelegate

    It was cute, it was funny. And anyone with even a passing knowledge of her style of interaction with Jeff would have known that it was a goof.

    Her rep for having a temper notwithstanding, I just wouldn’t have been able to buy it even if I hadn’t been listening after the facts were known: she just didn’t build up to the right level of rage. Also, she thrust and parried early on in the “interview,” and appeared to catch herself enjoying the give-and-take too much. She did a nice job, overall, but improv comedy is really really really hard to get just exactly right, and if you’ve got an ear for it you could hear that her side of things didn’t quite “build” properly. People study for years to do this kind of acting, and it’s the hardest kind.

    Re: humor

    I live with a comedy writer, and there is a species of funny person who is driven by a lot of internal demons. My husband likes to quote John Cleese, who remarked late in life that he had a good therapist for a number of years, and that it had taken his “edge” away.

    My conclusions, as if anyone gives a shit: 1) there are more important things than being funny, and 2) humor is the frosting on the cake. Rather than single-mindedly pursuing it, mostly people are better off letting it fall where it may.

    This may not have anything to do with Jeff’s particular brand of humor, but if it were up to me, I’d rather than his fabulous analytical mind show up in his interviews (even though I’m only hearing them as reruns, since I can’t load the TalkRight player on my Safari-driven Mac), and that the humor simply shine through when it seems appropriate. ‘Cause when it does show up, it’s going to be really good. When I listened to the “Glenn Reynolds” episode right after Easter, he led into the show with a little warmup that was just killer.

    It’s all good.

    That’s my essay by me.

  19. Blackjack says:

    I just think Bill is suffering from classic “Henchman’s Syndrome”.  It’s a common phenomenon among 2nd bananas.  I’m sure there were times when Robin would sit alone seething, thinking “You know, I could really kick Batman’s ass”. 

    So, think of Bill like Robin, except for the flaming-gay tights.  Well, I’m guessing—I mean, it is radio after all.

  20. Seaside says:

    Please don’t leave us Jeff, please! I know I know, X-Files, but, Jeeefffff!

  21. The other Robin, right Blackjack?

  22. Dan says:

    From the outside you look like someone walking up hill right now and some loose rocks keep tumblin’ down as you’re trying to get up a head of steam.

    I know it has nothing to do with your talent or ability – more likely timing, or maybe the radio and the blog are just too much, along with real life, of course.

    Whatever it is, it’ll pass. I just try to do what’s right and good for me when I get in that spot – assuming you are. Good luck with working it out – bit it will pass. Life’s always better when it’s reasonably effortless, which is how you look here when your clicking.

    Something’s talking to you – hope you figure out what it is and what it’s saying. Might be nothing more than needing time with the family and some good movies for a spell.

  23. Blackjack says:

    Oh yeah, Robin.  Sorry about that.  From what I’ve been told, your tights are 100% certified hetero.  You know, pictures of footballs and power tools on them, that sort of thing.

  24. CraigC says:

    Where are you Bill?  Aren’t you gonna come swooping in and launch a vicious personal attack on Sparkle?  Maybe you could call her stupid and illiterate.  Just a trying to be helpful.

  25. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Everybody ease off of Bill, please.  He’s an honest guy who likes to push people’s buttons from time to time, but listen: if you were putting up with as much negative reinforcement as we’ve been over the last month or so, you’d be very short with your fuses too.

    Bill and Michele C. worked out their problems in time, just as I’m sure Bill and Sondra and Bill and Sparkle will. 

    And while I don’t hold out much hope for Bill and Craig grin , I’m just letting you all know that through Monday, this will be a no negativity website.

    Unless of course I’m pissed at somebody. In which case I’m allowed to bend the rules.

    Thanks.

  26. Bill from INDC says:

    Man, how many times will some of you interpret Goldstein’s posts about “going fishing,” “take it away,” etc. as literal retirement posts? I mean, he talks to a dolphin in a peacoat, for fuck’s sake.

    It reminds me of Charlie Brown with the football, except the football isn’t even there, it’s just a drug-induced hallucination.

    And for the record – the rest of those mentioned I’m apathetic about, but Craig is, and always will be, my little bitty boy bitch.

  27. CraigC says:

    That’s my guy!

  28. Rightwingsparkle says:

    Craig, he always comes through for ya, doesn’t he?

  29. JWebb says:

    Jeff is a great teacher. I’m still trying to figure out the subject.

  30. Rightwingsparkle says:

    Bill and Michele C. worked out their problems in time, just as I’m sure Bill and Sondra and Bill and Sparkle will.”

    Does anything more really need to be said?

  31. Alpha Baboon says:

    Man, that Say Anything Bunny is so much more interesting than anything that’s been said about the Great Catalano-gate Hoax in days… No point.. Just an observation ..

  32. Blackjack says:

    AB, you can have the Say Anything Bunny.  I’d take that conservative t-shirt chick.  You know, the one with the ACLU hammer and sickle.  I could swear that photograph is in 3-D.  Ka-pow!

  33. Bill from INDC says:

    Sparkle –

    Do you really want to start riding me again? Is that what you’re after? I’ve said nothing negative about you in this thread, or at any point withion recent memory, yet here we are … with you busting my chops, unprovoked, again.

    Does anything else need to be said?

    I mean, seriously, I’m tired, and I don’t really feel like going a few more rounds with you, but you seem to crave it. And who am I to deny that which one craves most? Is this a responsibility that I must bear because you like it?

    I should probably just ignore most comments, but …

    … when a blogger starts lecturing Jeff (and by extension me) like he’s a four-year old, about how insipid fighting back is when you’ve been publicly attacked by a humorless dipshit questioning your “credibility,” and that story has been picked up by MSNBC, all the while lecturing in an affected dialect reserved for four year-olds … well, they probably could use a slap in the forehead, I say. And when …

    … an unfunny hack rapes a comments section with streams of scribbled diarrhea the likes of which haven’t been seen since my high school trip to Mexico, comments which I largely ignore, UNTIL – he comes after me with a haughty e-mail, and consequently gets both barrels, eventually leading him to lose his mind and start babbling about his elementary school California Achievement Test results and threatening to beat me up in subsequent comments … well that seems like good interaction to me as well.

    And when …

    … well, Michele C is none of your business, but suffice it to say we’re both strong-willed folks that had a misunderstanding, and we’re cool now.

    … and then we have you. A person who, despite all previous drama and vitriol and supposed agreement to just leave each other alone, cheerfully stomps in to start riding my jock – even though I have assiduously avoided responding to either your positive or negative comments – AGAIN.

    And you wonder why I’m ruthless to you? I may be a prickly, officious dick that enjoys delivering shitbombs in comments sections, but you’re a … ah, nevermind. See? I don’t want to. I don’t want to insult you.

    I’m tired. I’m uninterested in making you cry, I’m not excited by the prospect of doing some armchair psychoanalysis that seems like a mean throwaway comment, yet hovers close enough to the truth as to make you and others uncomfortable, and I’m not interested in making cheap shots about your looks, family, dog, personality or the color of your site.

    I’m not being a smart-ass, I’m really just not interested. But I’m also not interested in sitting here and taking your unsolicited shit all the time, whether it’s about what a dick I am, how great I am, how I won’t link you, or whatever.  If you’re a Craig fan and would like to defend your buddy, that’s your right.

    But I’d probably just advise and ask you to try leaving me alone? Again? If you aren’t ok with that, then (groan) we’ll do this … again.

  34. Blackjack says:

    Wow, I’m speechless…

    Dude remembers what he scored on the CAT?  Half of the time, I can’t remember if I’ve already shampooed while in the shower.

  35. Sean M. says:

    Dang, “riding my jock”?  Bill’s kickin’ it old skool!

    (I’m picturing him blogging in a Kangol.)

  36. Sean M. says:

    (And he’s wearing a red velvet Adidas tracksuit with a gold four-finger ring on each hand.  One says BILL and the other reads INDC.  No laces in his Superstars, natch.)

  37. CraigC says:

    You saw scribbled diarrhea on your high school trip to Mexico, Bill?  Wow.  What were you doing, finger-painting with your own shit?

    As far as being an unfunny hack, coming from you, I’ll take that as a compliment.

    As for Sondra, she said NOTHING to you, dipshit.  It’s a testament to your inflated ego that you think you were included by extension.  God, you’re a toothache of a man, to coin a phrase.

  38. JWebb says:

    Hey Jeff – This “no negativity website til Monday” concept is working out pretty swell, yah?

  39. CraigC says:

    Well, you know, JW, this ridiculous crap can’t go unanswered.  Bill needs some serious therapy to deal with whatever is making him so bitter.  I understand that there are some high-priced hookers in D.C. that might be able to fix what ails him.

    HA!  Spamword, “served,” as in….well, you get the picture.

  40. JWebb says:

    Yes. Yes, it can all go unanswered. Where’s Rodney King when we need him?

  41. Attila Girl says:

    So how do I assure that when I wake up, sweet reason will prevail? Yeah, I know: I’d have to eat my gun like it was an Ambien.

    Which is a little further than I’d want to go for a damned blog.

    Good night.

    (Turing; appear. As in, it appears the train is about to jump the tracks.)

  42. Jeff Goldstein says:

    There will be no track jumping.

    Ding ding ding ding.

    That’s the bell for recess.  Everyone outside.  Time for kickball.

  43. CraigC says:

    Can Bill be the goalie?

  44. CraigC says:

    I want it noted, by the way, that with my HAYUUGE IQ, I didn’t fall for Jeff’s little ploy.

  45. PP says:

    Hey, c’mon Jeff. I added you to my blogroll!  I mean, how much more encouragement do you need?

    Really, the hits outta be just rollllllin’ in about now.

    Any…uhm…second.

    Well hey, I tried. cool grin

  46. Alpha Baboon says:

    Hey.. How ‘bout that Say Anything Bunny, huh ? Wow.. And that Hammer ‘n Sickle chick that Blackjack mention… Kapow !!! Can I get an A-men ?

  47. Diana says:

    Not from me, AB.

  48. Rightwingsparkle says:

    Bill,

    blah, blah , blah… same ole song all the time.

    Sad really.

    I think I am gonna leave here as well. I love reading Jeff as everyone knows, but it aint worth reading tantrums from an overgrown baby.

    So if you feel a need to rant at me, just drop me an e-mail so others won’t have to suffer.

    I’m out.

  49. Diana says:

    RWS … what ever happened to that “do unto others..” stuff you’re known for?

  50. Ana says:

    A-fucking-men.

    spam:designed. Yeah. I know.

  51. Ana says:

    The amen was to the bunny.

  52. kyle says:

    There’s no goalie in kickball, sillypants.

  53. Diana says:

    Ana, I’m shocked!  I say, shocked!  She’s a cute little piece, but I wouldn’t have thought quite your cup of tea.  wink

  54. Shinobi says:

    A-MEN!

    Bill, Jeff, not that my opinion matters, but I thought the show was great yesterday.  The Canada stuff was really interesting and Kate’s accent was hot.  Sorry about the seal noises though.

  55. Alpha Baboon says:

    Diana, that was just my futile attempt to defuse an escalating situation before one side or the other does something crazy like punch in the launch codes and send the birds flying.. but I’ve failed and I’m resigned to the coming shit-storm. I’ve learned to stop worrying and love the F-Bomb.

    It’s the end of the world as we know it ….

    And I feel fine …

  56. gail says:

    It is my unbirthday and I demand unanswers.

  57. Diana says:

    AB – not futile at all!  Much appreciated.  I just don’t seem to get aroused by 15 year old chicks in a boa cool grin

  58. Diana says:

    Gail – really?  Your unbirthday?  Congratulations and kudos!  You made it!

  59. Alpha Baboon says:

    unfunny hack rapes a comments section

    Hey !! I’ve worked hard to earn my title as most unfunny hack commenter and sole reason for the migration of PW’s readership of true wit to parts unknown.

    Dont be just tossing this title around indiscriminately.. A few streams of scribbled diarrhea does not a true idiot make.

    And while we’re on the subject, my IQ is a Whopping 87 and I scored 725 on the SAT… but for a Baboon thats pretty freakin good, ya know ?

    Plus, I can speak English.. Cant sign to save my life.. but I can speak English.. and write a little too.

    — Baboon Savant

  60. Alpha Baboon says:

    tongue laugh Oh go on… She’s NOT 15.. hahaha

    Is she ?

  61. Diana says:

    Do you remember Brooke Shields in The Blue Lagoon?

  62. Hoodlumman says:

    <quote>Sparkle –

    Do you really want to start riding me again?</quote>

    *snicker*

  63. If you ride Bill’s jock, you get credit for using that “new clean coal technology” Bush keeps talking about.

  64. gail says:

    Tee Hee. Laurence said “Bush.”

  65. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Somebody over at Ace’s called the show an “SNL skit gone bad.” This during his admission that he only listened to 2 minutes of a single show.

    And yet still, I find it hard to argue with criticism so thoroughly researched.  So, back to the drawing board!

  66. willow says:

    I think I am gonna leave here as well. I love reading Jeff as everyone knows, but it aint worth reading tantrums from an overgrown baby.

    I’m out.

    Later, babe.

    wink Peace out and whatnot.

    Nice show guys (just heard it.) So, just so I understand the logistics of what you two are doing…you’re obviously in seperate places.  So, you’re both on a conference call, then others call in?  What, what?  I think it must be really hard to be doing a tag-team style of interviewing when you’re not in the same place. I’ve done radio before (though I’ll only say I’ve got experience – am not an expert by any stretch) and it’s hard to do that sort of thing when you’re in the same room looking at each other.  Your banter seemed to reflect some of the limitations of your logistics, but considering those limitations, I think it’s going well.  Each show gets lots better what with the juggling the time constraints and questioning and all that.

    What’s on tap for next week?

  67. JWebb says:

    RWS – So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  68. JimK says:

    All I know is, I didn’t do it this time, and Sean M’s response to the spectacular “ride my jock” phrase was spot-on. smile

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