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Flashback: “Suspect In Aurora, Colo. Church Shooting Identified, Had Been In Prison”

Didn’t he know that, as a convicted felon, he wasn’t supposed to have a gun? Had he no respect for the rules?

At any rate, for those of you who don’t remember, after he randomly killed a woman coming to his aid, he was shot dead by a churchgoer who had a weapon on him.  As Squid quite pointedly notes in the comments to an earlier post,

I’ve seen the reflexive lefty criticism of the “two Aurora shootings” argument, which is that the defender in the church was an off-duty cop. So far, they haven’t had any good rebuttal for my riposte, which is that another word for “off-duty cop” is “civilian.”

Precisely:  most people who carry guns train with them, just as cops do.  And the fact is, most cops never have to fire their service weapons in the line of duty.  Meaning that the difference between the two oftentimes coming down to nothing more than the badge, a time-card, and a bad mustache.

So.

 

 

19 Replies to “Flashback: “Suspect In Aurora, Colo. Church Shooting Identified, Had Been In Prison””

  1. richard mcenroe says:

    On behalf of me and most of my uncles, watch the mustache crap, muscle boy.

  2. Pablo says:

    Precisely: most people who carry guns train with them, just as cops do. And the fact is, most cops never have to fire their service weapons in the line of duty. Meaning that the difference between the two oftentimes coming down to nothing more than the badge, a time-card, and a bad mustache.

    Based on some of the asinine, butt-ignorant weapons remarks that have been coming out of cops and former cops lately, I can confidently state that I know at least a dozen people I’d rather have with a gun than any cop I don’t know.

  3. sdferr says:

    These people do angry hatefulness very well. Like experts, really. (h/t Powerline)

    “. . . marauding bands would come . . .”! Precious.

  4. JHoward says:

    Perps tend not to commit around cops. The converse is also true.

    Ergo, victims tend to experience real time. Cops tend to show up late, exchange pleasantries with orange-haired vest-donning psychopaths who’ve strolled casually out into well-lit parking lots, and then set about stringing the yellow tape.

    But you must not defend your life. You must duck and cover cower.

  5. JHoward says:

    Oh, and one of my better friends is a metro cop. His views on civilian carry and the overall LEO consensus on same never fails bring a smile to my face.

  6. Squid says:

    Anyone see Nanny Bloomberg last night? He was saying that cops all over America should all go on strike ’til their states adopt tougher gun control. I guess ‘cuz of all the cops what got killed by law-abiding citizens or something.

    I, for one, encourage Nanny to do a lot more flying over the Atlantic in single-engine aircraft.

  7. sdferr says:

    Did Bloomberg include the Secret Service protective corps (or is that corpse?) in his stuntition?

  8. geoffb says:

    Taranto, who also talks of both Aurora shootings, “OK, Let’s Debate Gun Control!

  9. leigh says:

    I have to throw a little cold water on the “cops train” with their guns thing-y. Most of them don’t. They have to qualify once a year and believe me, you don’t want to be next to them on the range. They are very careless about waving their guns while swapping stories with their buddies.

    Not all of them, of course. But more of them than makes me comfortable.

  10. jcw46 says:

    The civilian may be in moderately better shape. Unless they too ride around in a car for 8 hrs a day punctuated by a few minutes of sprints and some wrestling now and then.

    I liked the bit about the bad mustache though.

  11. Crawford says:

    Excepting the handful of police I saw running through an IDPA competition, my impression is that most CCW holders train more than the average cop.

  12. McGehee says:

    I’m not offended by the “bad mustaches” reference. Mine’s a good mustache.

  13. William says:

    I really love how the argument: “There are crazy people in the world, let good citizens arm themselves so we’re better protected when crazy hits,” is just a MIND blowing argument now. Even Atticus Freakin’ Finch used and had a gun, libs. You’re not commenting on reality, you’re commenting on the Lifetime movie in your mind.

  14. cranky-d says:

    I think the founders felt that a right to self-defense was so obvious that it didn’t need to be spelled out.

    If this latest mass-murderer knew that many of the people in the theater would be carrying, he would not have gone there. He obviously intended to live.

  15. Squid says:

    You’re not commenting on reality, you’re commenting on the Lifetime movie in your mind.

    I’m saving this one. It’s poetry!

  16. Jim in KC says:

    It’s just a coincidence, cranky-d, that mass shooters prefer to operate in gun-free zones. Pure coincidence.

    The better half and I just attended an active shooter response class earlier this year. The consensus of most of the cops involved was that even in a gun-free zone, if, as a civilian, you responded, you’d be a hero and not likely arrested as long as you won and didn’t shoot anyone you shouldn’t shoot.

  17. Jim in KC says:

    That’s in Missouri or Kansas, not places run by complete morons, like D.C., NY, or Chicago.

  18. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Add FL to the list, Jim.

  19. Jim in KC says:

    I was talking specifically about an active shooter–that’s a fucked-up horse of a different stripe there in FL.

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