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Off to pistol training for the day

After which, I plan to sue the range for allowing me  to fire in a dangerous environment that, in addition to allowing guns,  gets too loud and too full of lead.  And that makes me feel a bit cramped when I choose to try a 360-degree spinning shot from an automated wheelchair.

Ain’t America great?

 

 

81 Replies to “Off to pistol training for the day”

  1. EBL says:

    It is good you are keeping those necessary skills up.

  2. Blake says:

    Have fun and let us know how the spinning and shooting goes…

    What kind of firearm are you training with?

  3. BurtTC says:

    Where is your well regulated Militia badge? How are you allowed to carry a weapon, comrade?

  4. geoffb says:

    Make sure to bring your rubber gloves to pick up your shell casings. The evil that is inherent in all guns might just ooze through your unprotected skin otherwise.

  5. jcw46 says:

    Don’t forget the hazardous pollution from the smokeless powder.

    Make sure they have a handicapped ramp and allow seeing eye dogs. (I forget the PC term)

    Just because someone is blind doesn’t mean they’ve lost their right to shoot guns.

    Don’t forget to duck.

  6. Jeff G. says:

    Not sure what I’ll be shooting. The only pistol I own right now I don’t fire, because it was my Dad’s and because it may be a nice little collector’s piece (it’s an old Belgium Browning). So if I had to guess, I suspect the instructor will stick me with a 9mm or a .22.

    This next month, if I’m able to financially, I’m picking a .45 ACP (1911 or that new Taurus) and maybe a .40 or 9mm and buying them. Maybe a nice revolver, too. And some sniper rifles. And some shotguns. And maybe a canon and some grenades.

  7. leigh says:

    Don’t forget a nice Claymore or two.

  8. geoffb says:

    and allow seeing eye dogs

    Service animals please, and now starring ……

  9. leigh says:

    The person who figures out how to house-break a miniature pony is going to make a fortune.

  10. McGehee says:

    The person who figures out how to house-break a miniature pony is going to make a fortune.

    “Oh give me a home
    Where the buffalo roam
    And the carpets are replaced every day…”

  11. BurtTC says:

    Leigh, I don’t buy Claymores, I make my own. Environmentally friendly too! I use chicken bones, soup can lids (cut up fine), sewing needles, and all those screws I used to accumulate in a big can. Mix it with used kitty litter, fill those used cans (nothing goes to waste!), add the right mix of explosives (be creative!), trip wires, etc.

    It’s fun for the whole family. We even decorate them for the holidays. The neighbors love them, but they know to stay off the lawn, so…

  12. leigh says:

    That sounds like fun for the whole family indeed, Burt. Do you stencil them with a handy reminder to “point this way”?

    Me, I have the boys digging tiger traps next to the electrified fence.

  13. LBascom says:

    I put up a sign:

    trespassers will be shot
    survivors will be shot again

  14. leigh says:

    Very good, Lee. Is it big enough to see from the road or do the interlopers have to be prying your doors to see it? We have a No Trespassing sign that is partially obscured by bushes. If it’s good enough for the highway signs, it’s good enough for me.

  15. serr8d says:

    Having a .22 (for frequent target shooting and training) is economically sound. If you start enjoying the activity, with larger calibers, reloading the reclaimed casings is more than worth your time.

    The larger shell casing are easier to reload. Just sayin’. )

  16. leigh says:

    serr8d, I’m glad to see you embracing your bad self again.

  17. serr8d says:

    Thanks, leigh. I was afraid that other fellow was too easily swatted aside.

  18. leigh says:

    You’re welcome, serr8d. I’ve been keeping you in my prayers. Is your site back up, too?

  19. LBascom says:

    A friend sent me this link. The fellow makes a case for a .410 shotgun as the first line home defense weapon. Which I hadn’t heard before, but it’s worth considering. Especially the part where he points out the man of the house may be gone and the wife or kids might be doing the defending.

    The same article also makes a case for the .22. Anyway. I thought he made some good points, whadda ya think?

  20. dicentra says:

    Don’t start another brush fire. That’s all I’m sayin.

  21. leigh says:

    Brush fires only start when you’re shooting outside. Or so the authori-tays would lead us to believe.

  22. serr8d says:

    Just for when I feel like it, leigh, which isn’t so very often.

    OH! Jeff, here’s a newly-published “Buying your first gun” article that’s helpful. Probably no so much as the excellent commentary you’ve amassed from this site, but with some neat graphics. They sell ammo too, shipped directly to your door. Nice!

  23. motionview says:

    The ultimate in family personal defense.

    But the evidence of casual acceptance of nuclear warfare, all the way down to the level of an ordinary farmer, was terrifying to the New Mexican brass. Annexing the Midwest would be like running a grade school where the kids carried slug guns.

  24. geoffb says:

    If you do go for the 1911 then consider a .22 conversion in order to get some inexpensive practice.

  25. serr8d says:

    ‘feets isn’t gonna be happy about this.

  26. LBascom says:

    The AR-15 is the civilian version of the U.S. military standard issue service rifle.

    I thought the AR-15 was the carbine version of the M-16, developed for airborne and special ops.

  27. happyfeet says:

    the constitutionality of DOMA Section 3 is “an issue of great national importance”?

    in obamataxed failshit america’s post-rape fever dreams maybe

  28. serr8d says:

    This is majorly OT, but fascinating. Chris Hedges, known (at least by me) as the ‘Intellectual Godfather of OWS’, writing on Jonathan Haidt’s newest book…

    Haidt, who is the Thomas Cooley Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University’s Stern School of Business, is an heir of Herbert Spencer, who coined the term “survival of the fittest” and who also attempted to use evolution to explain human behavior, sociology, politics and ethics. Haidt, like Spencer, is dismissive of those he refers to as “slackers,” “leeches,” “free riders,” “cheaters” or “anyone else who ‘drinks the water’ rather than carries it for the group.” They are parasites who should be denied social assistance in the name of fair play. The failure of liberals, Haidt writes, to embrace this elemental form of justice, which he says we are hard-wired to adopt, leaves them despised by those who are more advanced as moral human beings. He chastises liberals, whom he sees as morally underdeveloped, for going “beyond the equality of rights to pursue equality of outcomes, which cannot be obtained in a capitalist system.”

    “People should reap what they sow,” he writes. “People who work hard should get to keep the fruits of their labor. People who are lazy and irresponsible should suffer the consequences.”

    Seems a natural reaction to moochers, to let ’em learn to do for themselves, and not require goods and services taken from the rest of of. Hedges’ mileage obviously varies.

  29. serr8d says:

    Only, ‘feets, if you realize that by NOT supporting DOMA, Baracky had to do tremendous push-back against the Constitution. Which he does oftener and oftener as he gains momentum from the successes he’s notching into his anti-Republic weaponry.

  30. SDN says:

    Lee, you’re thinking the M4 variant of the M16, with a shortened stock so it’s easier to maneuver in confined spaces, like the back of an APC or in house-to house. The AR-15 is considered the civilian version because it only comes in semi auto without a selector switch.

  31. TmjUtah says:

    Jeff, please do check out Ruger’s 1911 offering.

    In the past, Ruger’s incredibly reliable and accurate autoloader pistols were panned for ergonomics. During this period the expanding market was saturated with SIG, Glock, H&K, S&W, and a lot of other folks marketing to the public after marketing to military and law enforcement.

    Ruger just went after the people that were looking to spend $500 bucks or less… and spent about a decade looking at ergonomics while quietly turning a profit. I like everything they make. The 1911 design demands superb manufacturing standards and that is step one with all Ruger products.

    I used to pan the wheelchair systems until I realize you could trailer your belted ammo. It’s all good!

  32. TmjUtah says:

    FWIW:

    If you “old Begian Browning” doesn’t show evidence of hammering on any mating surfaces, all you really need to do is measure the operating spring and compare it to OEM spec and replace it if necessary.

    This is mainly for blowback (.22, .25 ACP, .32 ACP, .380 ACP) models. If you are dealing with a locking design like the High Power or 1911 you should get it checked by a gunsmith.

  33. LBascom says:

    The AR-15 is considered the civilian version because it only comes in semi auto without a selector switch

    Well, the civilian version sure, but the military version has a selector (I’ve been told, and also told there is a conversion you can get, if you’re like a Mexican cartel member or something).

    My point was, the AR wasn’t originally a civilian design, it is a military design first that was modified for civilian use.

    I could be wrong…

  34. sdferr says:

    Looks more to me as though Haidt ignores Max Weber, than “the wisdom of all the great moral and religious writings on the ethical life […] “. Not to mention, Haidt thinks himself a liberal.

  35. Silver Whistle says:

    If that “old Belgian Browning” is a Hi Power, I would be on it like white on rice.

  36. LBascom says:

    So, I guess that whole negotiating with terrorists thing isn’t working out exactly…

    Just days after the breakdown of talks with the West over Iran’s nuclear program, the deputy chief commander of the Revolutionary Guards announced that there soon will be war – and that Allah will ensure his forces are victorious.

    The last round of talks between Iran and the P5+1 (the United States, Britain, France, China, Russia and Germany) ended in Moscow last week without any agreement on Iran’s illicit nuclear program […]

    Gen. Hossein Salami, in a televised interview, boasted that, “Iran has complete control of all the enemy’s interests around the world and is on a path to reach equivalency with world powers.” The commander emphasized that Iran’s nuclear program is irreversible, the Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

    Salami said war is inevitable, and the Iranian forces are ready. […]

    Salami repeated that the Guards are ready for war, which is close, and though it will be very difficult, “We have faith in Allah.” […]

    Referring to sanctions on Iran, Khamenei said, “America itself is surrounded by serious problems, which cannot be solved. … Their main goal is to separate the Islamic republic from the support of its people. … Allah willing, this conspiracy will also be defeated.”

    I wish I could have an AR-15. Stupid California.

    By the way, now that the POTUS has notified the world Arizona has open borders, think Islamists may take advantage?

  37. leigh says:

    Just go buy one in Arizona, Lee. You live out in the country, no one is going to know unless you take it to town.

  38. LBascom says:

    BBH, have you been eating chili again?

  39. LBascom says:

    Leigh, I’m pretty sure you have to have at least a resident drivers license to buy gun anywhere (legally).

    A master criminal I’m not. My luck, I’d get a Fast and Furious murder pinned on me.

  40. Silver Whistle says:

    I wish I could have an AR-15. Stupid California.

    California is nearly as retarded as Britain. That’s some accomplishment.

  41. leigh says:

    You don’t have to be a master criminal, you just have to know someone who knows one. I thought we were all about selectively enforcing the law in this country or is that only applicable to the DOJ’s office?

  42. LBascom says:

    I’m pretty damn sure it’s not applicable to me.

  43. leigh says:

    Well, have it your way then. (I’m just teasing you, anyway.)

  44. cranky-d says:

    You can have an “almost” AR-15 in CA:

    http://www.riflegear.com/t-evilfeatures.aspx

  45. Silver Whistle says:

    Wow, cranky, those look, um, different.

  46. cranky-d says:

    You can also change the rifle to make the magazine harder to remove and keep all the standard AR-15 features.

    I would like to note that any of the changes required to make an AR-15 California legal could easily be reversed if the owner moved to another state.

  47. Silver Whistle says:

    It’s OK Lee, I’ve got you sorted.

  48. Pablo says:

    I wish I could have an AR-15. Stupid California.

    I thought you could, with a couple of mods to make it less scary.

    Leigh, I’m pretty sure you have to have at least a resident drivers license to buy gun anywhere (legally).

    Generally, if you buy out of state you have to have it shipped to an in-state FFL and have them background you. But I hear you can buy off the shelf nuclear weapons and then evil gun shows, no questions asked.

  49. Pablo says:

    “…at them evil gun shows…” Derp.

  50. dicentra says:

    Speaking of starting fires, I was watching TV a couple hours ago when I heard an almighty POP. Thinking it was fireworks, I ignored it until I heard the sirens outside the house.


    And saw this
    .

    Not long afterward, one house east of the flaming SUV, a water main broke, so I have no water, and without water, I can’t run my swamp cooler.

    All things considered, I’d rather be without water than electricity, but still.

  51. dicentra says:

    Only 97 degrees of dry Utah heat. A wet bandana and an electric fan do nicely.

  52. newrouter says:

    what kind of bbq sauce do you use on a suv?

  53. BigBangHunter says:

    – Typical HuffPravda agitprop for the weekend:

    * Trotting out the “RomneyCare was the template for ObamaCare” defense. – Check.

    * The Issa document ‘drop’ into the Congressional record……….
    ……*crickets* – Check

    – If they didn’t have Hollywood gossip to fill the page they’d have no page at all.

    – HuffPo – Lying for Proggressives one day at a time.

  54. Pellegri says:

    @dicentra: I love all the firefighters standing around and just gawping at it.

    Not that I would not do the same. It just amuses me.

    Salami said war is inevitable, and the Iranian forces are ready. […]

    Salami neglected to mention he also sounds delicious. I’ll save up my meat ration stamps for him.

  55. dicentra says:

    I love all the firefighters standing around and just gawping at it.

    Three big fire trucks, one small motor. A 2-3 person job, max. Yet they were all there.

  56. geoffb says:

    With fire in this dry weather I’d rather see them have enough guys and equipment to deal with anything likely. Better to roll with too many than not enough. Fire can get big fast.

  57. dicentra says:

    Not in deep in the middle of the ‘burbs. If we were on the edge of the scrub I could see it, but there’s nothing but houses to burn around here.

    Still, they wanted to be sure there were no open fields and stuff nearby.

  58. newrouter says:

    carbqs aren’t just a french thing

  59. geoffb says:

    Good thing you’re not in DHS or that training would be for “duck, find cover, & run away

  60. geoffb says:

    A very, very, special 4th.

    Wonder if there is a good golf course nearby?

  61. newrouter says:

    A very, very, special 4th.

    a carbq in honor of the baracky

  62. newrouter says:

    DHS or that training would be for “duck, find cover, & run away“

    yes i hear being a coward is the thing to do these days.

  63. cranky-d says:

    So, Obama will be spending the 4th in a foreign country. How surprising.

  64. motionview says:

    Cranky-d, muse.

    #Democrat4th Why we’re in Paris, snorting cheese off of Johnny Depps untrimmed left pinkie fingernail. Why, what are the rubes doing?

    #Democrat4th We may have CAIR over for some goat.

  65. BigBangHunter says:

    – Red fish, Blue fish
    – Brown Fish, Clown Fish

    – Where else would he vacation but with his fellow statists so they can discuss new ways to spend the fruits of other peoples labor.

    – Lee Harvey, where are you now that we need you. Outlaw!

  66. leigh says:

    This doesn’t say Obama is going to be in Europe for a fund-raiser. It says George Clooney and various ex-pat supporters will be at the fund-raiser(s).

    Not that it would matter, but I believe soliciting funds from non-citizens is illegal, isn’t it?

  67. BigBangHunter says:

    – Yes Leigh. They cover their asses by manipulating contributions “through” Americans obstensibly stationed overseas.

  68. BigBangHunter says:

    – I read somewhere that Bunnblefuck is down to “begging” Dem party leaders for funds by phone now.

  69. palaeomerus says:

    Hey great news! I live in Austin. Austin’s “conservative/business friendly” Mayor Lee Leffingwell ( a real Texas conservative not the usual Austin Liberal!) joined with the city council in declaring this past Thursday to be Chief Justice John Roberts Day in Austin.

    I’m really glad I didn’t know about it until now, because I’m pretty sure that if I had heard about it on Thursday that blood would have leaked or even shot right out of my head in quantities sure to lead to long term medical consequences.

    I found out about it from a KLBJ news commentary call in “comedy” show run by a couple of local dunces.

    Well, I’m not going to vote for that stupid fucker now. What a jack ass.

  70. Swen says:

    LBascom says June 30, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    The AR-15 is considered the civilian version because it only comes in semi auto without a selector switch

    Well, the civilian version sure, but the military version has a selector (I’ve been told, and also told there is a conversion you can get, if you’re like a Mexican cartel member or something).

    My point was, the AR wasn’t originally a civilian design, it is a military design first that was modified for civilian use.

    I could be wrong…

    Perhaps you’re thinking of the CAR-15? It was indeed a select-fire carbine version of the M-16, introduced in 1965 and intended for Special Forces & such. The few folks I’ve known who’ve used them didn’t like them. Apparently they had reliability issues. I’d think full-auto fire with a 10″ barreled 5.56 would also tend to singe your eyebrows.

  71. Swen says:

    LBascom says June 30, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    I could be wrong…

    But you’re not. The AR-15 was originally designed for the Air Force, with “AR-15” being Armalite’s (AR= Armalite Rifle, eh?) model designation for the rifle.

    The M16 (officially Rifle, Caliber 5.56 mm, M16) is the United States military designation for the AR-15 rifle adapted for semi-automatic, three-round burst and full-automatic fire. Colt purchased the rights to the AR-15 from ArmaLite, and currently uses that designation only for semi-automatic versions of the rifle.

  72. Swen says:

    Incidentally, the AR-15 family of rifles now has the distinction of being the longest-lived rifle design ever to serve with the American military. Adopted in 1963, 49 years ago, and still the first-line rifle in its M4 version. So far as I know that record is only surpassed by the venerable 1911, adopted in 1911 and officially replaced in 1990. After 79 years in service you deserve to be called venerable!

  73. LBascom says:

    Thanks Swen. I was probably still wrong though, I thought the AR-15 was basically a M-16, shortened and chambered for .223 ammunition.

    California now allows a .22 version, but that’s just a liberal metaphor. Style over substance.

  74. cranky-d says:

    The M-16 is .223 as well (or 5.56 mm if you like). The AR-15 is merely the semi-auto only version.

    I believe the AR-10 was the original design, which used 7.62×51 ammo.

  75. bh says:

    Wait, I was thinking your average AR-15 was shooting NATO rounds.

    I’m a bit confused.

  76. bh says:

    Okay, I googled a bit and I was thinking of the 7.62 as the NATO rifle round and I guess I was firing the 5.56.

  77. cranky-d says:

    While the 7.62×51 and the .308 are generally not interchangeable unless the manufacturer says they are (the M1-A or M-14 must use nato-spec rounds), I believe that many if not most AR-15s can chamber either the 5.56 or the .223. At least, I’ve seen barrels listed that claim either round will work fine. I’m not sure of the actual differences between the latter two rounds.

  78. cranky-d says:

    Okay, I should have looked it up sooner. The external dimensions are the same, but the 5.56 can be loaded to a higher pressure than the .223, which means the 5.56 could damage a gun that only expected to shoot .223. So, one can shoot .223 in a 5.56 gun but not the reverse.

  79. bh says:

    I’m coming to realize I might like the .303 and 30 hyphen symbol 30 just because I’m lazy.

  80. bh says:

    hyphen symbol would work even better as a hyphen

    stupid phone

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